What's a nice, user-friendly way to sort columns in a listview? Maybe click the column headers?

@Kitḫ That's how most apps do it

Right. But what about if you want to sort on more than one column?

@Kitḫ Usually holding shift and clicking or something like that. But it's not very discoverable.

Shoot. And what if they want to sort upside down or something?

click a column twice in a row

Stupid web design. How is this my problem?

I'm just supposed to write code.

frowny face

I use tablesorter.com but then my app already has jquery installed.

tablesorter works well for client-side sorting. If you have paged data and need to sort on the server it's more complicated.

one could, in theory, put jquery.js on a page that needs tablesorter.

without converting the whole app to jquery. but that's a relatively big hammer to use.

Then again, that's often how jquery sneaks into an app.

Hmm.

I need to add paging as well.

Maybe I should do that first.

Frigging needy users.

Well, you need to consider both at the same time, I think. they complicate each other a lot.

I don't suppose the canned paging tools work with listviews?

I have no idea, that's asp.net talk, I no speak'-a the dot net

That was more rhetorical, anyway.

I was thinking out loud.

and not just out-loud! out-on-the-internet!

Um, yes.

I wonder if I would get caught if I left work right now.

If I got caught, I wonder how much trouble I would be in.

I'm feeling a bit disgruntled, but you'd think I'd be pleased...

That annoying shared spreadsheet is wonderfully demonstrating that I'm not the one taking a thousand years to get things done.

Yay!

But you're not happy about that?

He was in my office this morning telling me that I wasn't going to like him by the end of the day because of all the user requests he had.

I last modified the spreadsheet on Nov 9th.

He hasn't touched it since then.

I will be gone Thursday and Friday.

That means I will have hours of support work tomorrow.

And most of it old, which means pissed off users.

Ohhh.

sigh. what can you do.

But isn't it his job to prioritize this stuff anyhow? There's only so much you can get done in one day.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Sneak out early today is what I am thinking.

@aediaλ That's true, and that's why I ought to be smug, because he's obviously doing a crap job.

Instead, I feel bad for our users.

Also, if the project fails, I'm out of a job.

Although, I am surprisingly not perturbed at the thought.

@Kitḫ Will it make you feel better if I tell you that the thing I'm working on, I feel it should have gone up a year ago if all the people higher up than me had gotten their act together and allowed us to work on it?

Also, he does prioritize it, by putting 1 next to all the items.

@aediaλ Better, maybe. I certainly feel closer to you.

That's nice.

In the meantime we know our users are suffering with something old that was catastrophic in usability testing, but it somehow wasn't a priority to make even minor adjustments that could have helped, because we had to make the text on the comps perfect and so on...

Eww.

Meanwhile there've been other projects at least, but now I hate this thing.

At least I have some freedom to ignore his development requests and do what I think is necessary.

Like figure out sorting and paging on these listviews.

We only have to make perfect things that are necessary for client signoff.

(I didn't expect it to take a freaking year for this one, but they changed their mind at least ten times about how they wanted it to work, too.)

Ah, the façade.

Yes. I don't think even my boss cares how we make it work.

So long as it looks like what everyone expects.

I guess it's not so bad here.

I do enjoy a fantastic amount of goofing off.

You have to look on the bright side, too. The users probably don't know how much they're suffering.

Well, that's a good point.

hey guys guess what i bought for din dins... and bear in mind i am in a piggish mood ;-)

bacon

erm, not filling enough

you're not eating a big enough portion then

A turkey dog?

sigh

you guys dont know my diet well

;-)

So delicious looking.

@aediaλ I think the only rational conclusion that I can derive from that poster is that people should eat dogs.

@JasperLoy I don't remember exactly. Vat-grown meat, cannibalism, something or other.

@JasperLoy nope

"Me, chief assistant to the assistant chief!"

"Always be sincere, whether you mean it or not."

@JasperLoy that'd be a good way to ensure that only you were laughing :)

ok time to go. cya folks

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Night!