@peterh no - there has actually been a high amount of tolerance towards him. He has not been bullied at all. You, unfortunately, only have a small view of what goes on. Moderators have a much wider view, and CMs even more so. When people get to medium and long term suspensions, the visibility and oversight is pretty high.

@Muze small things add up, and medium things even more so. Things that are completely against the rules add up even faster. You have not only committed a very large number of small infractions, but you have also a number in the other two categories as well.

@peterh I'm not surprised he is suspended on those sites. And if he acts the same way on another site he would likely be instantly suspended as well. You don't get treated like a new person just because you are on a new site. Assume you had a 3 day, a 7 day and a 30 day suspension on one site for a particular action. If you go to another site and do it, you should expect longer again, not a 1 day beginner suspension

@peterh and to be honest, that is you misusing the system a wee bit. Sure, you can bounty anything, but to prevent a community voting to close it is a bit dodgy

@peterh that appears to be a misguided assumption

@peterh I would probably not phrase it like that. It can be very challenging, but think about the community - many are there specifically because they need help engaging with others. So are they unfriendly, or just having trouble understanding, or articulating

@RoryAlsop For example, if I see something like this: At what point does up voting become serial?

including (now deleted) comments like:

> I am going to up vote 7 of your questions and 7 of your answers I like please let me know if they are reversed.

and then I find exactly the same thing on another site where I am a moderator.

@peterh I don't claim to be innocent. I just don't deserve a years suspension for every little thing I do wrong.

@Loong Doing this with testing goal is obviously far lighter offense, than doing this with the goal of poisoning the site vote DB.

@Loong If it is even an offense. For example, I think, at a point as we learn of the SE software, we all delete one of our good posts and then undelete it. Once. It is obviously a much lighter thing than deleting things with destructive intents.

@RoryAlsop Protecting bad content with false bounties is destructive. Protecting good content with a bounty, also to attract attention (I am, for example, quite curious, when do these photons fall into or escape the BH) is obviously okay. Check the comments below the post, I gave more details there.

@RoryAlsop Probably also the comment had been enough to defend the post. But I was annoyed, Muze got again a year long PSE ban, he is banned also on the Engineering SE and on the Electronics SE, and I have no way to know, why. I think, mods are carefully watching him and anything what he does, results another year.

@RoryAlsop He has numerous closed questions, many of them had survived if some else posts it. This is imho bullying.

@RoryAlsop Furthermore, I also think that a group of mods on different sites, are carefully watching him, and if he does any problematic, he gets 1yr on the spot. I think it is bullying and also a misuse a mod privileges, even if he is not innocent.

@peterh yes I noticed a change across the board once I was suspended a few times. In there defense I do push on the fence to see what is the limit.

@Muze The mods are following all the rules very carefully, they are super-rulefollowing citizens. But now, I think, they've stepped a little bit over their limits. Probably they won't be working on your extermination very long, if you don't commit anything some month, maybe a year long, you will fade.

@peterh the sytem need a more dynamic suspension system.

@Muze I think the real danger is now that the CMs might think that it was enough and give you a long suspension. The SE leaves such induvidual suspensions to the sites, so you goal should be to not annoy them enough to make an exception.

@Muze The worst problem what I can see, that they will always find someone who they want to expel. If they expel you, a little later they will find another one, and yet another. I think it is one type of a very dangerous collective psychosys.

@Muze Be aware that probably you are watched carefully, everything what you are doing, by an entity which is only looking for the possible reasons to punish you. Don't give him any reason!

The physics could have used an edit ban instead of suspending me. They are using the wrong tools for the job. That why they have bans instead of a suspension.

@Muze Facebook gives 1 month for practically anything. I think it is better. Although they don't need to reason.

@Muze What you did on the PSE? As I could see, you suggested a trivial typo/grammar improvement to an early post of a mod. It might be accepted or rejected, but surely not an offense.

@peterh right they are encouraging circumventing

@Muze The problem is, when I recognize that you were somehwere suspended again, the mods long deleted all your problematic posts/comments, and I also don't know, how did they reason the suspension. That further decreases my little possibilities to defend you. What said the PSE mod, why was you suspended?

I uvoted to many times on 1 persons account and editing my old poorly written posts this last time

up voted

@Muze Never edit more than 1 post in a day. Editing old posts are disliked, because doing them massively floods the frontpage of the site with old posts. Furthermore, the mods are probably thinking that you are using these bumps to attract attention and thus votes to your posts.

2 years ago I down voted a moderator 3 times in a row shame on me, dumb of me. This year I tried to undo it and got suspended. I even asked first, and he said nothing, so I fix his bad grammar to reverse those down votes and I think that got me suspended this year.

I know better now and thanks

@Muze The problem is, that this rule doesn't specify: 1) what is counted as old post 2) what is counted as massive edit. But, if you edit only 1 of your old posts in a day, no one on the Earth can say anything, although they will probably try to nitpick you.

I never got the"if you do this again you will get suspended" for anything in physics. It is not them moderator 98% of the time it is the suspension system that need attention.

@Muze You really never got a mod warning?

@Muze Between the mods, there are more lenient, more friendly ones and also vehement ones wanting only the suspend, destroy. It was a regular pattern, not only on my PSE activites, that I complained about the action of a vehement mod, and then I unintentionally insulted a friendly mod.

@peterh I should have learned right away. Don't piss off the Mods and I did that. I screwed up but I have been learning and want only to put it behind me

@Muze They try to show a collective, consequent face to the public, and this face is more close to their destructive side. They have some internal decision-making mechanism before they do any harder. It is very important, your activites should give verbal munition to the more lenient mods and not to the destructive ones, if they are talking about, what to do.

@Blue a solid warning saying you may get suspended. A real warning before suspension or just shorter suspensions. Walking in the dark

@Blue Physics.SE is to high brow for most users. I have many physics questions but are too dumb to ask there and I have been suspended from there for asking low quality questions when they could have given me a question ban. Thank you for helping. I know I shpuld be more careful and I am trying. No more about this from me.

@Blue I've had an edit ban before

I have a question ban in chemistry

and I swear I has an edit ban once in physics

I see then they should have that tool as well

More dynamic tools for the moderator is my new argument

@Blue could you tell me if they have any control over the length of time on suspensions. I want to think they don't.

@Blue that's to blunt

@Blue I ment can they choose less time if they wish?

A year for up voting and editing is to much I might remember by next year this time.

@Blue that make me want to go to my local library and open another account rather then wait. but I haven't. I thought about it and I want to be a mod one day and I hopefully will be respected more for not.

I think I got everything mostly figured out now so with my fingers crossed there will be no more suspensions at least on the sites I have a clean slate in. @peterh thank you for helping too

@Muze I think: after the expiration of your old suspension, you tried to fix one of the problems what caused it. For that, you've got yet another suspension.

@Muze You are also threatened by following suspensions, or more longer suspensions on different sites, by different mods. The only mod who were enough brave to talk about it, says that "The suspensions and mod warnings escalate when you don't learn. And you cannot use the same excuse on one site that you used on another as information is shared across the mod team"

@Muze The mod also denies that any nitpicking, bullying would happen. Note also, he is even a friendly mod. Lesser friendly mod don't even talk, they only suspend.

@Muze In your case I would change your "vote everybody up" text on your profil. Instead, try to argument against the hirds bullying people and voting all their posts down.

@Muze You could also use torrent browser. The problem is with these, that there is still some risk that the SE discovers it. And their reaction will be probably so harsher, as the attack you did, is more dangerous to them.

@Muze The risk is too high. I can't see why do you really need the PSE, I think your engineering SE ban is more bad for you, with your PCU project.

@Muze It is the general guidance what they follow. But, they can give anything from 1 to 365 days.

@peterh No. If you already know or have been told that you are violating the rules, then testing the limits of which violations can remain undetected is obviously not a far lighter offence.

@Loong I can't talk about induvidual suspensions on the PSE, because also I will be suspended, if I do.

@Loong I need to stop this chat. I hope you understand, this is not an atmosphere with what I would want to be, or I should be cooperative and friendly.

@Loong Make the German SE a better site. It is very important. Recently there I feel a movement to narrow the site topics again. I suggest to check the rules of similar sites, for example Russian Language or English / English Language Learners. If there is an initiative to narrow the site topic significantly below these, I suggest to try to resist it.

Good luck, @Loong! I never heard any bad from you or your sites until now, I hope so will be it forever.

Well, chemSE started a little bit too much closures, but somehow it happened silently, I've found it only on the Data SE.

@peterh no, your are wrong on that

We don't follow one person, we watch for all things

@Muze you have it as a total for all the things - they add up

@peterh so... What makes your opinion more correct than those down voting?

@Muze don't do that.

@Muze no, it works. It ensures those who do bad things enough get suspended. We don't care whether you say it was for testing purposes, it's what you did

@peterh please don't give Muze bad info. That isn't how it works

@Muze stop trying to justify your continued bad behaviours

@Muze no. That's not how this works

@peterh also, please don't tell Muze things like this - it is also wrong. In fact, please just point him at the help pages and meta pages, which have correct guidance

@Muze if you do that, you will definitely end up with worse suspensions. Circumventing major rules is a big no-no

@peterh seriously, don't give such badly misguided information as this

@peterh incorrect. That is not what mods do.

So - that's me caught up. @Muze - please don't believe most of what @peterh said. Most of it is quite wrong or slightly wrong.

Sorry for the autocorrect to be continued

correction example the upvote badge for up voting 500 times should include some rules to follow

Really sorry for the autocorrect

I want to know everything about the SE sites what you can do and what you can't do and a lot of that stuff you don't find out until you're suspended for it.

I don't mind being suspended but a year is just too long for little s' I know it's a lot but it can't be that much in physics because I've only been active in physics for a total of 30 days maybe in the last 3 years. As I told Peter I am not innocent a lot of it but I have never sock puppets or then I'm part of a upvoting ring or tried to cheat the system. I just want to participate without extra restrictions that others do not have and that is unknown to me.

I am trying really hard not to trip anymore suspensions I don't want to lose my privilege of being allowed on SE

@RoryAlsop Peter is in the same position that I am in I want to participate at the fullest but I do not know where the line is. Most of it is not obvious now I can be nice to others that's easy. For example the badge that you get for uploading does not have any guidelines on how you should go about doing that. It was easier for me to up vote multiple times on an account for their questions and answers that I like. I tend to hang out at the bottom of the list when I read

I'm going to put all this behind me and do my very best not to make any more trouble because I do care about being here