The Renderfarm

gandalf3

21:01

idk

gandalf3

21:32

@ARadish What do you want to edit it for?

ARadish

\later @gandalf3 could you help make a GUi for the nodes system

@gandalf3 just some grammar, they bother me a bit. lol

gandalf3

Heh, well that's google translate for you

ARadish

the translation would be a nice thing to add to the BA thread if the grammar was corrected

gandalf3

Feel free to download the file and correct it if you like

ARadish

ok

gandalf3

21:34

I just put it there so you could get it

ARadish

1 min ago, by ARadish

\later @gandalf3 could you help make a GUi for the nodes system

gandalf3

I'll probably delete it once I know you have it

@ARadish Sounds interesting

ARadish

i haveit

gandalf3

What seems to be the problem?

@ARadish :D 3.. 2.. 1.. poof

ARadish

@gandalf3 everything, i'm trying to integrate the QnD_Mailer.py into BGE so that the user can actually read the dielog, like what done in the demo, but working for my games

Blender Warrior

21:36

What is this^

gandalf3

no idea

I got it too

Maybe they caught wind of our toxic atmosphere

And decided to send in reinforcements

:P

Blender Warrior

Lol, but your a mod, you should know there reinfocred plans?

gandalf3

Maybe I should

XD

Blender Warrior

:o

gandalf3

*checks top secret sources*

Looks like just a routine thing

Every user gets one

Blender Warrior

21:39

"Be Nice" Policy

Hm.. how do I get to this policy?

gandalf3

Click the blue part?

meta.stackexchange.com/help/be-nice

Blender Warrior

Okay, that's something I haven't seen before.

I can use this agianst the mean gamer chat here lol

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms What version of blender are you using atm

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 2.76

gandalf3

ivy-gen crashes on the 2.77 RC

Blender Warrior

21:44

@GiantCowFilms You need to use 2.77

gandalf3

for me anyway

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Oh, eh oh

Blender Warrior

Lol, I am running 2.77 RC 2

gandalf3

*runs git pull*

Blender Warrior

Oh you guys heard they are going to remove the BGE completely from blender?

gandalf3

21:45

no

really?

People have been saying that for ages..

Blender Warrior

Yes, hold on

Read the "Replacing or Dropping Code" section

They are stripping it when 2.8 arrives as well as some other stuff.

ARadish

i thopught they were making it cooler!

Blender Warrior

The problem is, know one knows how to use the game engine lol. It's just as hard as animating. Like how can you get access to a specific point of your object with code? Not to mention, there are not many blender game dev's out there

ARadish

"game engine are in serious danger of removal, if we cannot come up with a good solution during the 2.8 project."

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

@BlenderWarrior thats easy!

object.worldPosition(x, y, z)

GiantCowFilms

@BlenderWarrior I only upgrade if I a) notice there is a new version b) bother to read the release notes c) See something I want d) don't have to many blender projects open to close them all.

The issue with the BGE is that there is Unity

and the Unreal Engine

Blender Warrior

21:55

@ARadish No it's not... lol... I couldn't even figure that out and i've been working with python for 3 years... c'mon

@GiantCowFilms Why is that?

GiantCowFilms

Personally, I think they should dump the BGE, or spin it off into its own package, since I think it might get more love as the Open Source Game engine instead of that backward backwater of blender that nobody knows how to use.

@BlenderWarrior If I were seriously developing a game, and wanted good results and a sustainable workflow, I'd use unity, not the BGE.

Unity can also deliver to real platforms people actually aim at like iOS, Android and Xbox

Blender Warrior

@GiantCowFilms Um, blender is trying to deliver to platforms lol

GiantCowFilms

and hopefully Hololens, drools

I really would like Hololens blender integration

@BlenderWarrior Show me a BGE game running on iOS (iPhone)

Blender Warrior

@GiantCowFilms Dude, there's an add-on that allows you to export to other platforms besides windows (common OS)

GiantCowFilms

how about xbox?

@BlenderWarrior besides or including?

Blender Warrior

22:00

@GiantCowFilms Windows is common so it's besides..

:)

GiantCowFilms

@BlenderWarrior iOS is iphone

That is not a small market

And why not use a game engine which can do Xbox, Android iOS, PC, OSX, Playstation, WEB(!)

Blender Warrior

Well your right about one thing. Instead of dropping it they should turn it into a seperate open source software..

GiantCowFilms

4 mins ago, by GiantCowFilms

Personally, I think they should dump the BGE, or spin it off into its own package, since I think it might get more love as the Open Source Game engine instead of that backward backwater of blender that nobody knows how to use.

Blender Warrior

@GiantCowFilms yep ^

@GiantCowFilms Well I guess your right but they made it this far, you'd think they'd make it better... but to be honest blender should have stayed as just a modeling software, because if they throw away bge, then they minus well throw away everything else.

Except for the modeling stuff and the Cycles

The animation is okay but I'm suprised the animation isn't in serious danger lol

GiantCowFilms

The animation tool kit isn't that bad if you know what your doing.

Its not like there are significantly better options that are affordable

the problem with the BGE is that unless you are using it because its a) the only thing your know or b) your very pro open source, there isn't really a reason not to pick one of the other options

as far as 3D animation, you'd need to buy a copy of maya (ouch)

Blender Warrior

22:06

@GiantCowFilms Then again, it's "open source' software, what do you expect?

GiantCowFilms

Yeah

gandalf3

blender4evur

@GiantCowFilms ever heard of godot?

GiantCowFilms

I think the best thing open source could do for itself is to create a foundation for the sole purpose of advertising open source software (and collect donations from development foundations, companies and users).

@gandalf3 No, it looks really good

@BlenderWarrior Just use godot, who needs the BGE :P?

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Sounds like the blender foundation :P

GiantCowFilms

Well blender is unique

Blender Warrior

22:11

@GiantCowFilms Oh ha, wow, okay

GiantCowFilms

And I am still waiting for the day where I see an add on the side of a website advertising open source software

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Sounds like the mozilla foundation

GiantCowFilms

Okay fine

And your going to say ubuntu

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Sounds like an SE site :P

GiantCowFilms

There is no SE site for godot

gandalf3

22:12

No, I mean SE sites with their community ads

GiantCowFilms

True

gandalf3

That's where you tend to see ads for open-source stuff

GiantCowFilms

If we ever got that 3D modeling site going. . . .

@gandalf3 Is there a godot add for game dev.se

gandalf3

no idea

GiantCowFilms

Godot also doesn't appear here:

google.com/…

Its a pity, because godot looks like an awesome game engine

gandalf3

22:14

It's pretty new

If enough people start to find out about it, one day it will be there ;)

GiantCowFilms

I really wonder where sites like CG Skies find their open vistas.... cgskies.com

Or do you think they are painting out light posts and stuff....

gandalf3

Or going to the top of a mountain/hill

ARadish

@BlenderWarrior that is it...

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 I tried that, I found there were trees there too.

gandalf3

huh

GiantCowFilms

22:19

Where I live, there are lots and lots of trees EVERYWHERE. They are also really really tall.

The only mountains I can think of that would be high enough would take several hours to climb. How could you get 300 skies like that?

Blender Warrior

Omg it uses python!

I've been looking for an open source engine since I was 12 tha supported python lol

gandalf3

the BGE does that..?

GiantCowFilms

Tada, he found some ultra flat farmland: ". I have spend over a hundred days on some ultra flat piece of farm land photographing skies "

gandalf3

aha

GiantCowFilms

No way I can find that here.

ARadish

22:23

i'm looking into godot now...

gandalf3

I'm compiling godot now XD

GiantCowFilms

Yo, mom, can we move to somewhere were it is totally flat and there are no trees so I can photograph skies. Surely dad won't mind an extra day added to his commute.

Blender Warrior

@ARadish So am I

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms fly to kansas

GiantCowFilms

I found one spot that nearly cuts it. With a bit of photoshop it could be 180-ificated

ARadish

22:27

cool

Blender Warrior

Omg, you can make mobile games form godot

gandalf3

yup

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 You need to start a list or something of all the awesome open source software ignorant cows haven't heard of.

gandalf3

:P

Blender Warrior

@gandalf3 I agree with Cow

We need some Open Source Music software some uh... open source hot dogs lol..

gandalf3

22:35

an open source software stand?

What condiments would you like?

Blender Warrior

Open source ketchup and mustard please :)

gandalf3

ok. Would you like some opensource relish too?

Blender Warrior

No, just open source ketchup and mustard with open source black pepper

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 relish is nasty

gandalf3

wat

Blender Warrior

22:38

@GiantCowFilms Relish is okay but it depends on my appetite.

gandalf3

sauerkraut + relish + ketchup = good

and maybe mustard too

Just for completeness

Blender Warrior

and a little bbq sauce as well ^

GiantCowFilms

I hate relish. its probably among my top 30 most disgusting foods.

gandalf3

huh.

Anyway all the condiments you could possibly want can be found here:

List of free and open-source software packages

This is a list of free and open-source software packages, computer software licensed under free software licenses and open-source licenses. Software that fits the Free Software Definition may be more appropriately called free software; the GNU project in particular objects to their works being referred to as open-source. For more information about the philosophical background for open-source software, see free software movement and Open Source Initiative. However, nearly all software meeting the Free Software Definition also meets the Open Source Definition and vice versa. A small fraction of the...

Free as in freedom

Blender Warrior

open source nanotechnology, what the... that's just insane..

@gandalf3 Why is required to have open source licenses and for what reason?

Like it's free to use, duh... why a license...

gandalf3

22:44

Open-source license

An open-source license is a type of license for computer software and other products that allows the source code, blueprint or design to be used, modified and/or shared under defined terms and conditions. This allows end users to review and modify the source code, blueprint or design for their own customization, curiosity or troubleshooting needs. Open-source licensed software is mostly available free of charge, though this does not necessarily have to be the case. Licenses which only permit non-commercial redistribution or modification of the source code for personal use only are generally not...

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 That list is missing some stuff, unless they are leaving out software even less restrictive.

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms like what?

@BlenderWarrior Usually to make sure the original authors get credit etc.

Sometimes also to prevent redistribution under a more restrictive license or something

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 DualSphysics, under computer simulation. I'm pretty confident it meets the requirements

gandalf3

I'm not a lawyer though

Blender Warrior

@gandalf3 godot, um, music software like uh crap linux something...

gandalf3

22:47

wha?

@GiantCowFilms interesting, hadn't heard of it

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 In my opinion its just begging for blender intergration

apparently you can export from it to blender, but I haven't figured out how.

@gandalf3 Do you want to play a game of chess?

gandalf3

perhaps

I have a fluid simulation engine that must be investigated though

;)

Gwenn

@GiantCowFilms I can play a game, but I'll probably make some dumb mistakes because I'm still tired.

GiantCowFilms

Thats fine, you will be on my level then

Gwenn

Ooh, I want to show you a cool opening trick somebody pulled on me yesterday.

lichess.org/bsoXfBSX

GiantCowFilms

22:57

@Gwenn Okay

Gwenn

I'll try to get you with it, but if it doesn't work, we'll just do a bunch of takebacks and added time so I can show you.

Blender Warrior

23:09

@gandalf3 how's godot going for you?

gandalf3

just finished compiling

Blender Warrior

Oh, can i see what you have?

gandalf3

I mean, the editor just finished :P

Blender Warrior

Windows 7 is being very ignorant, like everytime I download and install something it runs but it doesn't show up...

Like even my task manager shows it running:

It's running but it actually isn't displaying...

@gandalf3 The editor?

Ohh... you are compiling and running your code, if i'm correct?

100 this message has a TON of stars.

gandalf3

@BlenderWarrior compiling and running the editor

godot itself

Blender Warrior

23:16

Hey star my message ^

gandalf3

hehe very well

bwahahaha

I stared it 100 times! :P

Blender Warrior

Lol, it actually looks like it's been starred a hunder times until a second person stars it...

gandalf3

Then it'll be stared 2 100 times :/

@GiantCowFilms Do you happen to have any indoors/studio/brightly lit kind of hdrs?

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 indoors....

Any kind of outdoors would do? I have ALOT of those

gandalf3

Perhaps

Blender Warrior

23:19

What's an HDR?

gandalf3

Something with very soft bright light

GiantCowFilms

@BlenderWarrior giantcowfilms.com/category/hdrs

2

gandalf3

But not completely uniform

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Like an overcast day? You can crank up the exposure...

@gandalf3 What color?

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms might work

Blender Warrior

23:20

Why do you guys create your own websites?

gandalf3

why not

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Do you want one with trees, or do you want one with very open sky?

@BlenderWarrior a) fun b) they are quite useful

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms open sky sounds better, more light \o/

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Okay, this one is going to be from scratch

I only have the photos atm

gandalf3

ooh custom made

Blender Warrior

23:22

Okay I have an idea guys...

We should try to use area51.SE to create a site for GoDot

How's that sound (lol)?

gandalf3

I was just thinking of that a few minutes ago XD

GiantCowFilms

@BlenderWarrior How about just use a tag on Game Dev. Stackexchange

@gandalf3 But this one won't be CC0, no redistribution it.

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Same reason people no longer use the blender tag on SO?

Blender Warrior

@GiantCowFilms The problem with that is the fact that I'd need to grind rep to create such tag?

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms okay

GiantCowFilms

23:24

This one has no sun. I wonder if PTGUI might be able to do the entire thing...

Blender Warrior

I think it is at least 1k rep haha, I have very bad rep among everyone from Game Dev.SE, when I mean bad, I mean the mods would mute me..

I can't do anything there..

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms no sun == sounds perfect

GiantCowFilms

Quite frankly you could get a similar effect though by making the sky grey

The sky in this one is very plain

I do have another already done cloudy one that has a little more pazzaz

I can email you the thumbnail

Blender Warrior

Looks @gandalf3 and @GiantCowFilms, why are we having a conversation about skies and open areas and tree's?

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms chess?

GiantCowFilms

23:26

@ARadish currently in game

also, trying to process HDRs

cow overload!

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms ok

GiantCowFilms

Can I just use the email you gave to blend-exchange?

gandalf3

sure

that works

TARDIS Maker

@gandalf3 Showoff :P

gandalf3

:P

I didn't even type make

All I did was run the aur build script..

TARDIS Maker

23:30

@BlenderWarrior Musescore, LMMS

If you can get some good samples there's also reaper, although that isn't technically free, you can essentially use the unregistered version forever

@gandalf3 Oh :P

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 sent

gandalf3

got it

GiantCowFilms

otherwise I can do my uber cloudly one

TARDIS Maker

@BlenderWarrior For HDR's

For lighting

gandalf3

Nice clouds

But methinks I'd the uber cloudy would work better for my situation

If it's not too much trouble to stitch..

GiantCowFilms

23:35

If I rerember correctly I have the really flat cloud one, one with purplish clouds and another one with normal cloud that has a bit of sun cast. None of those are procced

@gandalf3 I have to do it at some poitn

Blender Warrior

@TARDISMaker Hey, what's up, long time no talk

GiantCowFilms

you may have to wait about 2 hours though, this isn't a one-click operation

gandalf3

Okay, there's no hurry though

Blender Warrior

Lol ^

gandalf3

Take all day if you want. Take two days! or three!

TARDIS Maker

23:36

@BlenderWarrior Not much

I should probably fix that...

ARadish

@Gwenn ! the knight!!

Blender Warrior

@TARDISMaker Fix what? oh and do you remember my blenderartist username? won't let me log on..

ARadish

yes

Gwenn

@ARadish What about it?

TARDIS Maker

@BlenderWarrior That I haven't been doing much

@BlenderWarrior If I remember right, it was just BlenderWarrior

Something along those lines

ARadish

23:38

@Gwenn nvm, you got it

TARDIS Maker

I can't quite remember though

I haven't actually gone on there in a few months

Blender Warrior

Okay, yeah, it wasn't letting me log in and I was trying to see if someone knew it..

@X-27 !!!!

gandalf3

3

Blender Warrior

@gandalf3 trying not to laugh

ARadish

@Gwenn why not take the rook?

gandalf3

23:41

:P

Gwenn

My knight wasn't threatened. I was getting that rook eventually anyway.

ARadish

if he had moved it, that would have been bad

Gwenn

Then he would have lost his queen.

Blender Warrior

I'm going to model ARadish

ARadish

@Gwenn knight f5

@BlenderWarrior cool

Blender Warrior

23:45

@gandalf3 How did you send you send 79.1k messages? How long have you been here?

ARadish

wait, no'

@BlenderWarrior since the beginning

gandalf3

@ARadish almost, not quite

ARadish

oh

Gwenn

Not private beta.

gandalf3

@iKlsR Has really been here since the beginning

Gwenn

23:46

Also me. :)

GiantCowFilms

gandalf3

Right XD

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 which of those clouds?

Blender Warrior

@gandalf3 and me..

GiantCowFilms

I'm slightly nervous the about the one on the left though, the stitch may be a we bit wokey

Gwenn

23:46

@GiantCowFilms You ran out of time...

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn Sorry, multitasking

Gwenn

:(

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms the left is way more dramatic

@GiantCowFilms i play you

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Okay

incidentally, that one was shot yesterday.

gandalf3

@BlenderWarrior @Gwenn was the 25th user to register

@GiantCowFilms wait um

That was a reply to @Gwenn

GiantCowFilms

23:48

oh

gandalf3

ack

GiantCowFilms

lol

which one?

gandalf3

@iKlsR was the 12th user

@GiantCowFilms left

GiantCowFilms

Okey dokey

gandalf3

:D

iKlsR

23:50

Well

Blender Warrior

@iKlsR Hehe, she heard us..

iKlsR

In the first 10 technically

Se admins don't count :P

ARadish

@BlenderWarrior you have only been member 5 month longer than me

gandalf3

hehe

ARadish

@BlenderWarrior how were you one of the first?

Blender Warrior

23:51

@ARadish Cause I used blender when it was in 2.34a

iKlsR

I signed up like 5 minutes after getting the mail tho, could have been sooner

gandalf3

Me I barely made a lowly first 600 (I got 599)

ARadish

@BlenderWarrior oh.

iKlsR

Greg got 8

gandalf3

wow

ARadish

23:51

@BlenderWarrior i thought we were talking about this site.

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 your HDR's journey continues. I have made a second copy of the photos, and am now commencing the conversion from .cr2 raws to tiff.

iKlsR

We were even on irc at the time, the bastard

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms \o/

GiantCowFilms

@iKlsR Langague!

Blender Warrior

@iKlsR Yes, please, Cow is sensitive

gandalf3

23:52

@GiantCowFilms What language is that langague in?

;)

ARadish

@gandalf3 'merican

GiantCowFilms

:P

Blender Warrior

We don't want another cowtastrophe....

7

Gwenn

@GiantCowFilms That's not actually particularly bad language.

GiantCowFilms

2

ARadish

23:53

i speak 'merican

Gwenn

Let's shoot for a PG-13 rating here, not a G rating.

ARadish

@Gwenn compared to what i said, it's worse, but, yk, thats how it go

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 I think you may have made the greatest meme to every hit this chat

also that was pretty quick to setup, and simulate and render that scene

gandalf3

XD yay for improved 2.77 smoke in viewport

Blender Warrior

@gandalf3 Yay!

Gwenn

23:54

@ARadish I don't know what you said before, but I really think that @GiantCowFilms should be willing to accept conversation that is above a G rating.

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms yes, "render"

:P

ARadish

@Gwenn i said "striped club"

Blender Warrior

@ARadish don't say it again... silly

ARadish

which apparently deserves hell 6.0

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Now I see it

Gwenn

23:55

Yeah, that's a thing that exists, why would anyone have a problem with using the most ordinary and polite name for a thing that factually exists?

iKlsR

C for every cow

2

ARadish

@Gwenn ask him. i've decided to act as his little speaking slave, to keep the peace.

GiantCowFilms

@iKlsR Shall we not debate this now, last time we were debating the SC event, @NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ left the chat.

Blender Warrior

@iKlsR Your name is: I Kiss Her

ARadish

I Killed Little Sam Rogers

iKlsR

23:56

@BlenderWarrior No

Eye Klooser

ARadish

hi @Wanda haven't seen you around

in while

GiantCowFilms

Some how at this point in time, duck for cover comes to mind

ARadish

XD

Blender Warrior

@iKlsR I kicked liz south round?

iKlsR

I am K ew l Lu s e R

Gwenn

23:57

Hey so if I'm vegetarian, I should get super offended anytime someone uses the word "pork"?

ARadish

@Gwenn yes

Gwenn

That seems to be about the equivalent.

Blender Warrior

@Gwenn Yes

I love pork

ARadish

chat.stackexchange.com/…

iKlsR

Its a silly name I came up with when creating a facebook account many moons ago

It stuck tho

Gwenn

23:59

@BlenderWarrior You son of a broiler chicken, I'll get you for that! </sarcasm>

ARadish

hi @Alex

GiantCowFilms

Alex and Wonda are back

Blender Warrior

@iKlsR Haham see i thought because is seemed like I kiss her, that you were a guy at first then..

ARadish

@Gwenn XD

@GiantCowFilms Alex and wanda are the same

they are one

GiantCowFilms

At the same time, which is suspicious.

iKlsR

23:59

@BlenderWarrior k.. wat

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish What is with them though

iKlsR

mlem

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms the have passed beyond unity in this life and are now the same transcendent being! one body, two minds!!!

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