The Renderfarm

X-27

00:04

@GiantCowFilms ?

GiantCowFilms

00:17

@X-27 ?

X-27

00:29

???

GiantCowFilms

01:36

@X-27 I wanted to play chess

Gwenn

02:13

@GiantCowFilms Game of chess?

GiantCowFilms

In one now, can play soon

Gwenn

Ah yes, I see that now.

GiantCowFilms

You can watch

en.lichess.org/qDPef0tHKu3j

And give me tips

Gwenn

Good move bringing in the rook.

GiantCowFilms

Gives me a landing point to fight from

Gwenn

02:18

You could have castled instead, though.

And gotten the rook to the same position.

GiantCowFilms

02:28

@Gwenn Got to go do something quick, then I can play

nvm

@Gwenn

lichess.org/mZXQesnp

...?

Gwenn

@GiantCowFilms I'm here, I was playing a bullet game.

I still have no clue how to keep up in one. :/

GiantCowFilms

Okay

@Gwenn Me niether

I fall to bits in bullet games

I'm very prone to panic

Gwenn

I just run out of time.

GiantCowFilms

ikr

@Gwenn ?

That ended sharply

Gwenn

02:44

@GiantCowFilms You're the only person who ever tries those stunts against me, and I am particularly bad at noticing them.

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn Some dude managed to set up this elaborate set of stunts like that that zapped me multiple times in a row

I was trying to repeat it, didn't work, but in that mindset, I began seeing more opportunities.

Want to play again?

or start from that point but let you not make the mistake

Gwenn

I know how to play for position and for piece advantage, but checkmates themselves are still a pretty foreign concept for me, on either side.

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn What theory is there regarding position and piece advantage?

I just wing it

(like I do for most things in life)

Gwenn

We can play again. I still think we should play rated games though. It's not like the rating particularly matters.

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn That makes me uncomfortable, it succeeds in making me more nervous, which messes up my game play, since I am a very emotion driven person.

I'm the kind of person who would totally botch something in-front of a large crowd, due solely to the crowds existence.

@Gwenn If you want, I can make another account that I can run the rating into the ground with....

Gwenn

02:48

The best way to overcome that is to do it anyway, lose a few times, and then realize that the world hasn't ended.

GiantCowFilms

I have tried that

(on other things)

Gwenn

Has it worked?

GiantCowFilms

I like the Casual aspect of it. It just makes it that much easier to take risks.

@Gwenn No

Gwenn

I used to be like that.

GiantCowFilms

Hrm

How much does it mean to you to play a rated game?

Gwenn

02:51

It doesn't really matter.

I just think you're being silly :P

Let's play.

GiantCowFilms

Allow me to be silly. I enjoy reveling in my naivete

en.lichess.org/7T4dFAzD

This is incredible. I have started listening to classical music, and I swear my vocabulary has expanded 10% (while listening)

Gwenn

@GiantCowFilms The lichess chat doesn't seem to be working for me.

GiantCowFilms

GiantCowFilmsI learned some new tricks ;D
Takeback proposition sent
Takeback proposition declined
GiantCowFilmsHow much do you want that take back?
GwennNot, since you didn't take advantage of it.
GiantCowFilmsI shall have to analyze this afterwards
Takeback proposition sent
Takeback proposition canceled
GiantCowFilmseh, much of a much
GiantCowFilmsAlthough that slightly improved things for you
GiantCowFilmsa piece trade when the other one has a good position is an advantage

@Gwenn Can you read what it says?

@Gwenn Are you using some awful browser like IE?

Okay, I shall use renderfarm

Gwenn

Yeah, I can read, but that's four messages it's failed to send.

GiantCowFilms

Okay

Gwenn

02:59

No, Firefox.

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn Odd

Renderfarm works fine though

Gwenn

A bunch of stuff is laggy.

GiantCowFilms

lichess.org afaik is open source, I shall look when i have a moment to see if i can identify the bug

Gwenn

I think I might just need an honest reboot.

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn Ah

Gwenn

03:04

@GiantCowFilms I already moved a few minutes ago!

GiantCowFilms

(whoops, typing in the lichess chat

@Gwenn Eh oh

its not my turn on my end

@Gwenn I think you do need an honest reboot

Gwenn

I took your rook with my bishop.

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn Can you propose a take back, and then redo the move

@Gwenn Hasn't updated on my end

Oh, now it worked

Gwenn

I opened a new tab.

GiantCowFilms

I see

the lichess chat might work too now

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

03:05

<insert interruption here>

X-27

WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

GiantCowFilms

that kind of disfunctionality smell of a JS crash that stopped a script from executing.

@Gwenn How do you know where a king and a rook will end up when you king if there are an odd number of sqaures

[move hasn't updated, in case of technical error]

Updated, yay!

I think you are mated, if I be not mistaken

(in a few moves, depending on how you play it

As it turns out not

Gwenn

You should give me some more time, if it comes down to that.

Because of the annoying technical errors.

X-27

GiantCowFilms

Lichess is having connectivity errors on both ends now

I think it may be a server issue on their end

@X-27 Night Twiggy?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

03:12

yeah, a mob type

There are dozens of them. Like around 50

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn?

Yo there?

Gwenn

@GiantCowFilms I'm going to reboot now, this is too frustrating.

Can we take a draw?

GiantCowFilms

Its not your computer

@Gwenn No, I think i have you in a force mate sequnce, but cannot be sure

Gwenn

I'm lagging everywhere.

GiantCowFilms

and desperately wish to finish the game

@Gwenn WE can restart the game from where we left off, sound good?

Gwenn

03:15

I'll blitz finish, whatever.

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn On my end you have 7 min

I gave you lots of time...

@Gwenn That was quick

I'm going to test now using the computer to see if my other sequence would have worked

Okay, you could have gotten out of that

Gwenn

My second blunder was the move I asked to take back, so that would have helped.

But yeah, I'm not thinking very clearly right now.

GiantCowFilms

That happens to me too

Gwenn

I need to eat something I guess.

You still available later?

GiantCowFilms

it a rare an beatiful thing when to players carefully face of in their best states of mind

@Gwenn Until 8 your time.

(assuming your still in EWA)

Gwenn

03:20

I improve much faster when I'm in a good state of mind, which is far more valuable then merely winning when I'm in a good state of mind.

GiantCowFilms

I agree

I play in all states of the mind, since I find practicing in a bad state of mind helps me perform in a bad state of mind

its a different lesser game, but there is no reason not to improve it. Performing extremely well once a week is far less valuable in most cases then performing reasonable well constantly

Gwenn

My strategy is quite different.

GiantCowFilms

O.o?

Gwenn

I change activities, so that I am always doing the best thing that my current mental state allows me to do well.

Or at least that's the idea.

There are mental levels that are too high to waste on mere chess, for example, and mental levels that are too low for playing chess to be actually useful.

In the latter case, I go read a good book.

Or one of a number of other things.

GiantCowFilms

In the latter case, I go watch the wastey-est of time youtube video I can find. (Youtube, please, for heaven's sake give me better suggestions)

@Gwenn I don't capitalize on my state of mind, I most cases I plug through with whatever I'm doing

Gwenn

03:26

I'm going to see if restarting Firefox fixes my problem.

GiantCowFilms

Probably slightly wasteful but more practical

@Gwenn I'd zap your computer

Gwenn

And also go do some work for a while.

GiantCowFilms

(I need to use the proper words instead of zap)

Gwenn

I'll try to be back on for a blitz game at 10 till, 'kay?

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn righto

@Gwenn Okay, cya, I'll bug gandalf in the mean time

@gandalf3 Chess :D

Gwenn

03:45

@GiantCowFilms 'Kay, I'm back.

GiantCowFilms

I was just starting to get productive work done :P

lichess.org/b4pLmR89

Gwenn

Do you still want to play?

Is that blitz?

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn No its not, how many min per side do you want

I say four each?

Gwenn

lichess.org/yhvR5T1P

GiantCowFilms

I'm in

And its my move

(lol)

GiantCowFilms

04:09

I think I' too tired at this point to play another game

I'm being silly left right and center

Gwenn

Yeah, that wasn't an excellent game. :P

'Twas fun for me, anyway.

ARadish

04:22

saiiiiil

ARadish

06:00

apparently i don't have conscience.

2

someonewithpc

08:41

@ARadish ?

Blender Warrior

10:31

@GiantCowFilms I wish unto you, why are you still talking about rules?

Rules = control and power, but the man who follows the path of the rules is wise, henceforth, he can use it to take down the one who once made the rules.

Like for example: The U.S. government as said is the truly evil, if the people don't know the laws, the government will put you in a prison for something you may not have done, but to them, they don't care, there evil, they just just following every single rule/la w they have to put against you to criminalize you of something. There's a difference between just following the rules and knowing about them.

@gandalf3 ^^^ just trying to make things clear for my awesome cow friend who is rule sensitive.. he's like me, I typically am an "extremist" lol..

BookWyrm17

12:14

something like that

Personally, I think rules and restrictions, the right ones, free you up to do more

sorta

I drew a picture about it a loooong time ago

for our first drawing topic in this group :D

3

Can you imagine life on earth without the law of gravity? :P

of course, they have to be done right.... but thats a whole different conversation

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

13:53

@BookWyrm17 lol

BookWyrm17

heheh

GiantCowFilms

15:06

I just got a popup that said this:

See something that makes you uneasy? Don't hesitate to flag it.

Apparently I'm right :P

BookWyrm17

ahahah

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@GiantCowFilms With the blue flag. That is what all the mods told you to do.

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I have figured that out.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

I don't get what you were trying to say then . . .

GiantCowFilms

I dunno D: I will get it right next time (in the regrettable event there is a next time)

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

15:14

k :P

Anyways . . .

moving on

GiantCowFilms

Chess?

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@BookWyrm17 Chess?

lichess.org/bjmE8FAn

(either one works)

BookWyrm17

sure!

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

listening to a class right now :P The Wyrm will have to play

GiantCowFilms

@BookWyrm17 :D

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Okey Doeky

BookWyrm17

woo!

BookWyrm17

16:04

woohoo! Good game(s)!

David

16:21

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ here is another example of how the "bug" CV gets over used. (read the OP's answer)

anybody else get a message like this?

Interesting timing for that to show up.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

lol

GiantCowFilms

@David Yes: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/28074617#28074617

ARadish

GiantCowFilms

ha ha

ARadish

@David i did

David

16:34

interesting, probably a new release. /David goes to meta and reads the release notes.

ARadish

meat

...

David

@ARadish you have no idea how common that is. Probably every mod has does that.

ARadish

has does...

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

lol

ARadish

lol

@GiantCowFilms ready to talk?

GiantCowFilms

16:36

@BookWyrm17 I made some bad blunders during our game :/

@ARadish I may have to go, but sure

BookWyrm17

I saw. But you still did fairly well, despite them!

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms did you read my messages i was sending to you while you were ignoring me?

GiantCowFilms

If I did, I have forgotten most of what it said. Something about discussing whats allowed or that?

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms can you go re-read them

David

@ARadish ok so from now on I'll email you every message before I post it here, so you can proof read it for me.

ARadish

16:38

sounds great

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish link?

David

(there might be a slight delay with this new arrangement)

ARadish

starting here and down

GiantCowFilms

@David Also send it to me so I can verify that I will disagree with it with it when it is posted

11 million faces, my GPU has decided to take a holiday.

ARadish

@David and while your at it, send it to Iklsr so he can simultaneously make you sound more impersonal and smarter.

@GiantCowFilms are you reading those messages?

19 hours ago, by ARadish

@GiantCowFilms Okay, i repromise, but you have to tell me what "Vulgar" is to you, because replying to a post with a question involving the ordinary noun "strip-club" didn't seem vulgar to me

GiantCowFilms

16:43

@ARadish Or make you sound like a troll

ARadish

oh. lol

didn't post link

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish Simple answer:

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms which requires a resend to you

GiantCowFilms

Think to yourself, is there a chance the cow might flag this, if you even find yourself asking the question withhold.

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms read all my messages below that too

GiantCowFilms

16:44

@ARadish BTW, I did warn you to deleted, at would have not-flagged in that instance

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms i thought that to myself, and i saw no reason how it could be taken badly. so obviously, we need to talk lines here

David

@GiantCowFilms (message pending ARadish approval) ok, so I first send to @ARadish for typos, then to iKlsR for a smarter sounding message, then to GCF so we can weed out any disagreements. So is there any point for me to post in here anymore?

GiantCowFilms

Simple: If I complain, delete the message. If you think there is a risk of me complaining, withhold the message

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms and i tried, but it was too late! i'm not mad that you flagged, just kinda mad that we have such a bad miscommunication.

GiantCowFilms

@David ~~weed out~~ add in

ARadish

16:46

@David nope, thats why it's better. Jk

@GiantCowFilms but how do i know if you'll complain about it? my question seemed innocent to me.

GiantCowFilms

Then see if I do, I won't flag it until the 2 min delete period is up

And try your best to avoid complaints

ARadish

1 min ago, by ARadish

@GiantCowFilms and i tried, but it was too late! i'm not mad that you flagged, just kinda mad that we have such a bad miscommunication.

David

@ARadish this is so simple. Email him before you post it here (kind of like I have to do with you.)

GiantCowFilms

Here is also a quick criteria don't joke about places or things you wouldn't actually do.

@ARadish Eh oh

umm....

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms don't joke about places i wouldn't do????

GiantCowFilms

16:48

@ARadish What....

David

@GiantCowFilms that criteria probably wont work. (there are some odd folks that come through here)

wow right on cue

</joke>

ARadish

lol

speak of the devil...

XD

GiantCowFilms

@David If they are prepared to do the kinds of things that Radish is joking about and cow is complaining about, I think we'd have other issues.

X-27

still haven't found my pet night twiggy.

GiantCowFilms

@David I haven't gotten an email?

David

16:50

@ARadish you did not correct my message!

X-27

on a happier note, I broke my record.

2:31

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

heh?

GiantCowFilms

@X-27 Sorry, it was dark and raining, and my car's headlights weren't working.

X-27

holding breath

David

@GiantCowFilms odd, I haven't sent one.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

16:50

Record for what @ARadish ?

GiantCowFilms

@David lol

David

@GiantCowFilms lol

X-27

@GiantCowFilms Nooo.. You kiilllededdd... him?

GiantCowFilms

Not like that

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms how can i "do" a place?

GiantCowFilms

16:52

@ARadish do as in go to.

X-27

@ARadish you still arguing over that? get over it already.

ARadish

oh. well. so now your not only telling me how to talk in this chat room, but how to live my life?

@X-27 we aren't arguing, we're resolving miscommunication.

GiantCowFilms

Shakes head. I seriously don't see how you guys can't use your better judgement, its so obvious.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@X-27 cool

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms it may be for you, but i don't have an inner cow compass

sorry

GiantCowFilms

16:54

@ARadish Notice. Nobody else gets into these scraps.

ARadish

so give me one! tell me what is wrong to do and i won't do it!

but i can't obey secret rules.

it doesn't work that way

GiantCowFilms

No obscene content

ARadish

saying "strip-club" without ill intent or going into details isn't obscene

7 mins ago, by GiantCowFilms

Here is also a quick criteria don't joke about places or things you wouldn't actually do.

this was a good way to say a rule, but it doesn't make sense

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@GiantCowFilms but what is obscene . . . it is ridiculous if you don't define it :P

GiantCowFilms

Nothing to suggestion at obscene content or very easily be interpenetrated as obscene content I don't buy your "I didn't mean it that way nonsense"

ARadish

16:56

it voids all conversation of Disneyland, skydiving, or riots

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Defining it would break all my rules.

@ARadish Sure

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms so how does that work?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@ARadish lol

ARadish

and it would allow me to describe a late night party with all my friends

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish Use the other criteria, do you think cow will comlain

ARadish

16:57

soooo...

GiantCowFilms

No-No stuff is at the intersection of I wouldn't actually do that and cow would complain if I said this

X-27

@ARadish just pretend you were talking about that

@ARadish especially if your talking about a spiky club made of strips of wood.

GiantCowFilms

@X-27 What is that?

David

@GiantCowFilms I protest, you and I regularly disagree.

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