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16:02
@GiantCowFilms Yah
@BlenderWarrior Whoa man . . .
that isn't nice
@BlenderWarrior There is a cow, watching you right now. It is sharpening its tools
the revolution is coming! the cows are coming!
@BlenderWarrior If that was sarcastic, we have voluntarily began using "jk" after a message to show it, as several disagreements have popped up over nothing in here before BTW
@GiantCowFilms Ther is a game called "Giant Cow"
On mobile for Android tabs
16:04
@TARDISMaker Do you want to play me now that I am on a roll today
Sorry for spoiling your morning :P
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ It's a horror, where the cows could walk on their feet and talk and kill the farmers who were killing them for their meat
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I beat you at chess, it'll take more than that to ruin it
@BlenderWarrior Yeah, cows are more dangerous then you think
No they aren't. I own three of the nicest happiest cows on planet earth :)
I wonder how hard it would be to turn these published papers into blender code.
that just looks so cool.
16:07
Buildings need to break :P
@GiantCowFilms Yeah
That simulator is 1000x better than what we have
Once a good fluid sim is implemented, then erosion will be the next logical step. I can not wait for that feature.
Who knows if it will ever show up
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Why do you want to simulate that
Because terrain generation looks pretty fake so far in Blender
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ For an art focused software package, I doubt it. Personally, I'd focus on performance and artistic control.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ If you want good terrain, use satellite data
16:09
Yeah, but you need to base it off of fluid particles to define pathways
@GiantCowFilms No
Not a good idea
low quality for 1
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ We do already have pretty good fluid particles in blender
But probably not good enough
if we had a good meshing tool and a way to do the foam, everyone else would be set (for things like ships and such)
You are basically approximating rain
@GiantCowFilms ? I have nothing to do with foam
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ They are as good as in the video I showed you
16:11
I don't want to render fluids, but to create realistic weathered terrain
We already have the fluid particles, and a way of seeing how many passed over a surface. that seems all that is necessary.
I also don't see it being too hard to find some researcher's software for modeling erosion, I'm sure something like it exists.
Basically you take the speed of the particle and assign sediment based on that.
@GiantCowFilms for $$
Stuffs like that are what I want
Download the geo data, and sculpt the rest by hand
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ What you really want is vue. I'm not sure it does erosion sim, but they use it for all the moves, so it probably is very good.
16:14
How do I use paint select?
@GiantCowFilms But I'd rather have it physically correct
@GiantCowFilms And a movie grade price I bet :P
@BlenderWarrior you don't
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ rather have is a phrase reserved for those with $$$$$
Vincent is sick. :(
16:15
@ARadish Oh, I got three enemies on me today h?
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ 1200 bucks
so not studio price, more got-a-job price.
@BlenderWarrior yes. come out with your hands up, you are surrounded by cynical people.
@GiantCowFilms yeah
huh
I may need to save up for that
my job sucks
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ e-onsoftware.com/try/vue_2015_ple
^^You can learn in the mean time
16:16
i'm the only male at the store apparently
the place is like a soap opera
@GiantCowFilms :O
faints
AWESOME
you know wha is really awesome?
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Pro-Tip: Try your luck
nodes based Dialog system for BGE
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ that too.
lol
@ARadish Chess?
@GiantCowFilms um.. not right now
16:18
@GiantCowFilms Stop askin for chess
@ARadish Aww
@BlenderWarrior Why, does it hurt you?
i just really want to learn this BGE thing.
@GiantCowFilms chess is his kryptonite
@GiantCowFilms I can't even beat my own father at the game..
I suck at it.
@BlenderWarrior I'm terrible too!
@BlenderWarrior Oo, we should play!
 [ego += over 9000]
16:19
@ARadish That's what I'm doing
@ARadish . . .
Making a game based from BGE soley
@BlenderWarrior are you using the nodes dialog by doc holliday? it's amazing, i just can't get it to work.
@BlenderWarrior Censorship Cow says please make that image so its a link that you have to click on
@ARadish CENSORSHIP COW says flags incoming.
@ARadish No, I am making a star wars GAME!!
16:21
flags
@BlenderWarrior everyone in starwars wears clothes ok?
@ARadish Please, @BlenderWarrior pleae....
@GiantCowFilms what did i do?
i did nothing wrong!!!
16:22
@ARadish I'm making the clothes DUH
@GiantCowFilms that was stating the obvious! how is that wrong?
@BlenderWarrior oh... shesh. why didn't you say so?
who's supposed to be?
Subject matter....
@GiantCowFilms Owned by Donald Joke Trump . . .
@ARadish Well she's actually going to be a sith lord and I'll also make a Yasoka
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Lol
16:23
@GiantCowFilms the subject was already there bro. calm down. no-one is getting hurt
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ XD
@GiantCowFilms oh.. the pain!!!
@GiantCowFilms how come it's not flag time when @NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ says it? lol in fact, was funny?
@ARadish Well I don't have to say she's wearing clothes, if I said "star wars game", she'll get some clothes, if I said "GTA" probably not
16:25
Gotta interpret and take some deep assumptions my man
@ARadish sorry....
you could have just deleted it
@GiantCowFilms you need to grow some skin, kk?
What's the figh about now?
Bye bye, cya later. Hands @NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ a bucket of ice water.
16:26
@GiantCowFilms bro when you get a job, or go to college. people are gonna be talking about things 1000000000000000000x worse.
dumps on conversation
@ARadish mod is ere run man!
@GiantCowFilms And now that I'm rusty?
@ARadish yes indeed, not pleasant
16:26
shivels... i hate ice
@BlenderWarrior we didn't do anyhting
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ shivers.. but i'll keep it that way XD
@ARadish Wh is he here whispering to you
lol
I don't think any mods are here right now actually
@BlenderWarrior bcus my existence is secret. i was never here.
16:28
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ hi
@Doorknob That was justified!
@Doorknob sorry to bother you, he's just really sensitive
he won't do it again
@ARadish sarcastic lol
@GiantCowFilms shaddup son, play along
16:28
I didn't see the offending message, but from context it seems pretty bad
@ArtOfCode hiiii.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ it wasn't
@ArtOfCode Okay, you see why that message is wrong... (right?)
@GiantCowFilms nope.
SE chat is going down the tubes :/
16:29
Plus, if you think something's inappropriate, use the other kind of flag.
Too any mods, @GiantCowFilms Don't flag stuff that is apropiate to this room
@BlenderWarrior posted a picture of a model WiP that looked like it wasn't wearing anything, and i asked if his game was in a strip club and GCF got mad at me...
Mod flags are for serious issues that only mods can handle.
@ArtOfCode last time, I swear I was told to use the other type of flag (this one)
I'm getting confused
@ArtOfCode the blue kind?
16:30
@ARadish yeah
@ArtOfCode Sorry
wait. i was k=joking, theres a blue flag?
I get mixed up.
@GiantCowFilms You want to be using the one that's available on the right-hand end of a message when you hover over it.
@ARadish there actually is
16:30
No worries :)
remembers that
@ArtOfCode well i'll be...
should I re-flag the message with the correct flag?
@ArtOfCode so verdict, am i guilty?
16:31
@GiantCowFilms I wouldn't advise it, it'll get declined
@GiantCowFilms if you want me to decline it, sure
or just the victim of sad circumstance?
Nobody sees why that is a) offensive and b) inappropriate?
this room doesn't appear to have any specific rules against that sort of stuff
16:31
I don't even know what is flagged
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ thankyou for your assurance. i hatye you now. <JK>
@ARadish the flag itself isn't, but the way it displays to you if you can see them is a blue circle on your avatar
@GiantCowFilms That' whole flag thing is soo over dude..
@Doorknob How can we make/register those rules?
besides, it's ascended to transcriptland now anyway
16:31
@ArtOfCode ah
@ARadish My hateye gets poked by branches all the time
2
@GiantCowFilms talk to the room owners around here
so theres like chinas flag, and the israels flag
@Doorknob Last I heard, offensive material was against the general SE chat rules
@Doorknob I've been there, I love talking to people there
16:32
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ XD
They call it the dump
@ArtOfCode Do we have to publish a set of rules?
Room owners here are actually the site mods, so talk to them :)
@GiantCowFilms that wasn't offensive
'strip club' is not an offensive term in the same sort of way as 'penis' is not an offensive term
16:33
@Doorknob Which definition of offensive are you using.
People star the darndest things . . .
It's a bland old noun.
@GiantCowFilms "rude or abusive towards another site user"
@ArtOfCode BOTH of those are inappropriate here
@GiantCowFilms I think he means because we model alot here of everything it's not that bad to say it here maybe
16:33
@GiantCowFilms i was right, and you were wrong, but out of the kindness of my heart i won't ask for $300 as apologize. (feel free to still give if you feel generous)
@GiantCowFilms Nope. Chat is informal, like talking to your friends.
You can say words like that, without being vulgar about it
@ArtOfCode Except anything you say here can be dug up and thrown in your face
How else would you reference it?
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Darndest is a bad word!!! gah!!
16:34
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ don't
somethings are best forgotten
You don't throw insults at your friends, and you don't discriminate or talk racism to your friends, but you can talk about strip clubs if you like.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ ...which i wasn't
@ArtOfCode No........
16:35
@ArtOfCode That's all we need, thank you!
@GiantCowFilms why not?
@GiantCowFilms if you like. Not must, but can.
@GiantCowFilms ok, deal, i won't say that evil word any more.
@Doorknob I can't explain that without violating my own rules.
A strip club is a place, as long as you don't get into details of what it is then I think it is fine. The message I saw used it in a joking manner.
16:36
I agree
^ that
@GiantCowFilms then perhaps your rules are overly strict
@GiantCowFilms you have rules against talking about the rules????
Rule #1: no reading this message
16:36
Rules folding on itself is not a good think
@Doorknob Everything you say here is public, remember that
Rule #1: Broken to pieces
HEY!!! STOP VIOLATING RULE #1
@ARadish TOO BAD!!!
@Doorknob Well, if everyone wants to talk about that kind of stuff, I'll be on my way.
16:37
@GiantCowFilms so if you don't want to be associated with talking about strip clubs, don't reply to the message. Simple as that.
@TARDISMaker I PROPOSE BANISHMENT!!!
@GiantCowFilms t was one message
@Doorknob Ehhh
@ArtOfCode is it okay to say: rotfl?
It isn't like we are discussing it, it was a joke. Just let it go. It has been said a dozen more times because of all the ruckus
@BlenderWarrior of course
16:37
however, others should be free to talk about whatever they desire, as long as it doesn't violate any site-wide/network rules
@ARadish You could have deleted it.........
@Doorknob Like the one about appropriate stuff ....
@ARadish I VETO BANISHMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@GiantCowFilms you could have ignored it
@ArtOfCode could you please delete my offensive message?
@GiantCowFilms sigh let it go
16:38
@ArtOfCode There is a good reason why I can't
@TARDISMaker You don't have executive power here
but I can't explain it
or @Doorknob please can you just delete it
so we can't really move forward here.
I will ask the room owner if we can establish stricter rules.
Y'know there's an easy way out: don't like it, leave.
16:39
@GiantCowFilms it is gone/
@GiantCowFilms That's just mean and no fun
i abide by the secret rules
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Um... Well, I know a few people... ... ... (@David @gandalf3 would you guys actually defend me?)
No graphic images, no vulgar or abusive language. Jokes are ok as long as they aren't vulgar
@ArtOfCode no but he's my friend and i like talking to him
16:39
@TARDISMaker (they won't)
no fair to make them stricter, everyone else here is coping with them already why make the rules tighter than what they are??
@ARadish sure, but it's okay to leave a room for half an hour to avoid a conversation you don't want to be part of.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Is postin a pic of my model a graphic image?
@David @gandalf3 @iKlsR I want to create an official rule set on what is allowed to be said. The moderators have gone off the cliff and no longer support the moral high ground :/
@ArtOfCode but he can't just leave if for half-an-hour, he leaves and then mutes me. :`(
16:40
8 mins ago, by Doorknob
besides, it's ascended to transcriptland now anyway
@BlenderWarrior Depends, I'd say put it in a link if it doesn't have clothes with some warning text
@GiantCowFilms We support the chat rules, which in turn support said moral high ground.
@Doorknob he wanted it deleted. i'm not going to insist on my own way
@Doorknob You can still delete it
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ But a model is what we do right? I mean okay, I understand though, I'm just curious..
16:41
There is no rule preventing you saying 'strip club'.
@ArtOfCode SE's moral high ground is dropping....
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ it was default white
@ArtOfCode We (try) shall fix that
@ArtOfCode you will support local chat rules though, right?
16:41
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ not nude.
If we make them official....
@GiantCowFilms If I'm aware of them, yes.
@GiantCowFilms Please just drop it
@GiantCowFilms It's the internet, it has moral low ground mate.
like an inverted pitchers mound
I understand that you're really angry about this, but you're making a really big deal out of something that isn't a big deal
16:42
yeah ^
@ArtOfCode I'll try and get them posted in the description
^^^
how many can we get to
@TARDISMaker and now i feel liek a terrible person/
16:43
then again maybe that's not a good idea
@ARadish It wasn't harmful IMO
@ARadish Calm down pats your back, the mods say it''s okay..
I feel its harmful.
To an 8-year-old, perhaps. There are no 8-year-olds here.
Everyone is over 13.
And if it was discussed in more detail, maybe, but as just a meantion it's fine
16:44
@ArtOfCode I'm 16 does that violate here?
@BlenderWarrior Nope, you're good
According to the TOS you have to be over 13
13's the limit, because COPPA
i'm 18... am i disqualified?
16:44
@BlenderWarrior the only age-related rule for SE is "you must be over 13"
due to child privacy laws
@GiantCowFilms oh! well i didn't know that/. wow
what about do we have to always act over 13?
16:45
@ARadish Yes, for heavens sake!
@ARadish Well... Do we?
I don't think we do :P
@GiantCowFilms stops sing "I'm a goofy goober"
Just look at earlier transcripts
@ARadish There it gets complicated. If you act over 13, we won't notice that you're in fact 10, and we won't tell anyone to delete you. If you act under, we'll notice and you'll get deleted.
Windows is suspicious of VUEPLE @GiantCowFilms, got a bit more research to do
16:46
@ARadish HEY, THAT'S OFFENSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ArtOfCode wait, you can delete people? are you cybermen now from DW?
@ArtOfCode If age is determined by behavior, remove every one here's accounts.
@ARadish Mods can do that
16:46
@ARadish I can delete people in about 10 different ways :)
@TARDISMaker !!!gah!omigosh!! sorry!
re "acting over 13," I'll just leave this here:
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Aug 21 '14 at 21:10, by Anna Lear
@hichris123 YEAH? WELL YOUR FACE IS INVALID
5
:P
@ARadish groan
(that's a SE employee, btw)
16:47
@Doorknob That my fried, is what happens when you don't set up real rules.
@Doorknob that is about the most mature thing i've aver heard said.
@Doorknob :D
Also, is that message's author written by SE Staff??!?!?!?!?
@GiantCowFilms but no-one got hurt,. bcus they know was a joke
@GiantCowFilms It's also what happens when people have a joke with each other ;)
16:47
^^
^^ indeed
I thought insults were against the rules
@GiantCowFilms honey, sometimes people do this thing where they say something that they don't really mean bcus it's funny
16:48
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh‌​hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh slap well
Or is everything a joke?
@GiantCowFilms come on, it's clearly in jest
@GiantCowFilms laugh at everything, it's usually funny
@Doorknob Jokes can sting.
16:49
True enough
@GiantCowFilms Depends on the person
Ever been the kid at school who everyone whispers things and then packs out laughing every time you walk into a room?
And I don't want to have to call the burns unit out here
(you guys can probably figure already that was me)
@GiantCowFilms Yes.
16:49
@ArtOfCode burns unit?
@GiantCowFilms no, have you ever asked your double-black-belt friend to help you?
@ARadish what friend?
I don't really hurt people unless i want to, trust me, won't happen on accident
@ARadish That would be instigating violence.
16:50
@GiantCowFilms double ouch lol
@ArtOfCode what's a burns unit?
insults are against the rules, but insulting yourself...
@GiantCowFilms no. people tend not to pester you if you have someone bigger than them on your side
@ArtOfCode Also against rules. People are stupid, so we should make calls for them!
@BlenderWarrior a unit to treat burns
16:51
@GiantCowFilms you my friend, are a person.
@GiantCowFilms lol (joke right?)
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ hahaha!!
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ NO
Duh
RULES!!!!
Mwahah ha ha!
Well, want me to suspend you for dishing out insults? ;)
You called me stupid because I am a person but I'll take it and let it pass
16:52
@GiantCowFilms . . . visions of tyrant dictators beheading captives . . .
@ArtOfCode yes,!!! me please! i insult everyone!! gaahahaaa
Maybe suspend me for 5 years, by then I should be able to handle this rooms vulgar talk.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ "Stupid peoples cannot know rules!!"
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Or files of starving people filing in lines past their giant bovine overlords.
@GiantCowFilms mybe let some stuff slide
16:52
@GiantCowFilms uh . . .
right
beef
starving
odd
@GiantCowFilms taking bites as they pass
XD
Rule 1: No eating cows
beef is pretty good (jk)
@ARadish You'd have to climb up the hoves...
i thought you weren't allowed to say the rules? was against your moral code.
16:53
Rule 2: Rules are jokes
jk
Rule 3: Jokes are rules
@Doorknob I'm sure there are rules against subtle threats of violence....
guys, the rules aare clearly stated already
@ARadish drab long fork?
16:54
@ARadish Now THAT one is bad......!!!!!
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ yes that
@GiantCowFilms no! liek a real fork!!! gah!!!
@GiantCowFilms TOO BAD!!!!!!!!!!!
@ARadish Delete it, please D:
I LIKE EATING COW!!!!
16:55
@TARDISMaker RUN COW RUN!
@GiantCowFilms Please, reconsider what you are asking.
i say fork once outta context and it haunts me for the rest of my life... i need to find ougher friends
You might want to take a break for a bit.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ uh?
What is wrong with that message?
16:55
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ he though i was talking about fork as in fork you...
@GiantCowFilms Do you still want to play chess?
slaps forehead
@TARDISMaker Yes
It means nothing unless the dirt is already in your head. I think your response says more about you than the rest of the people here . . .
You guys are impossible. When you take an innocent word and add context, it becomes something different.
16:56
@GiantCowFilms you my friend, just took an innocent word way outta context
i cannot believe you for saying that directly after-word (get it, after-word)
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Little bits of dirt enter through social interaction. a) I'm trying to stop more from getting in b) I'm trying not to dig up any dirt from the dark recesses of things best forgotten
@GiantCowFilms Do you want to set it up, or should I?
@GiantCowFilms you just spewed dirt all over my soul
I had the link
seriously, you said the worst thing that has been said in this room today.
@ARadish @ARadish Really, you are honestly saying that that messages was not intended to be interprated in a darker context
I think this world is a rough place. You may be shocked when you start living in it a little more.
16:58
if so, you just made a very bad blunder
@GiantCowFilms it was not, i swear
@GiantCowFilms wtf? you just blundered! i can't believe you!@
then what was that word you starred 'eh? starred inherently means you were trying to imply something inappropriate.
how can you say was my blunder???
@GiantCowFilms what?
okay, heres how i deal with Vincent in state == mad:
Leave for a little while
Damn is a perfectly viable word. It means condemnation to hell.

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