@RadishBeavers find the reflection vector, then send a new ray?

@GiantCowFilms Have you read the code??

It checks if it contains "Mirror"

yes

somehow it still doesn't work right

@gandalf3 We solved that already

@GiantCowFilms Why?

It quits after the first mirror

Did you try running it?

@GiantCowFilms Noit doesn't

@someonewithpc ah nice!

@GiantCowFilms Did you name your mirrors properly?

@RadishBeavers Why?

@someonewithpc Yes

Did you test your code?

@someonewithpc they taste bad

@GiantCowFilms Yes

@BookWyrm17 ok, coop

@someonewithpc BTW, if it doesn't go out exactly the same way, it can't loop infinitely

@RadishBeavers I think the current code tastes worse

@someonewithpc Dunno why its not working over here

@someonewithpc from the reactions going on, i can assume so

@someonewithpc send me and gcf the .blend

@RadishBeavers @GiantCowFilms pasteall.org/blend/40393

@gandalf3 thanks.

@someonewithpc found my mistake

(I had something in the way that wasn't called mirror, lol)

@GiantCowFilms What was it?

I had an object between my mirrors

@someonewithpc BTW, we should probably still check for same direction output.

@GiantCowFilms ..

@GiantCowFilms Ah... Maybe

But it will almost never happen

It could cut out ALOT of bounces

And when it does, it only goes back to the start

So the overhead may be more hurtful than than the possible return

Eh okay

@gandalf3 chess?

@GiantCowFilms Depends on how @RadishBeavers wants the mirror placement to work

Yeah

@RadishBeavers Will the mirrors have only a bunch of possible rotations (like in a grid, but for rotation) or can you rotate them freely?

@wuden Nice! Now you should make some particle system fur :)

@someonewithpc idk yet. it depends on which will work better from a mechanics standpoint

@gandalf3 could you hlep with rendering the line tho?

*ping* *pong*

@gandalf3 chess?

:D :D :D

/??

@GiantCowFilms maybe later?

Okay

@RadishBeavers You want a glowey line? Or just a literal line?

@RadishBeavers If you do use an incremental thing, keep in mind the rays will bounce back to the emitter in some arrangements

But it shouldn't break anything

glowy would be cool, but only if it isn't too much more work

@someonewithpc yes. i know

K

@Someone with pc... it's telling me that the reciveing object is mirror.001

...

same? or did i download wrong blend or what?

@RadishBeavers What?

idk

It's.. tricky. AFAIK the way to solve it is with shaders, but It's hard to find tutorials for BGE glsl (BGE uses an older version and only a limited subset of features are available)

@RadishBeavers pasteall.org/blend/40393

@someonewithpc i made a new mirror, and tried to bounce

@gandalf3 how about just normal red-line?

Just a line is easy. bge.render.drawLine(<from coordinate>, <to coordinate>, <color>)

For red, color would be (1,0,0)

@someonewithpc

import mathutils
import bge

game_objects = bge.logic.getCurrentScene().objects


def shoot(self):
    obj = self.owner
    vec = mathutils.Vector((0, 1, 0))#.rotate(obj.worldOrientation) #
    #x, location, normal = obj.rayCast(obj, None)
    #print(normal)

    mirror, location, normal = obj.rayCast(vec, None, 60)#, obj #, 0, "", 1, 0)

    if mirror != None:
        reflectedVec = vec.reflect(normal)

        hitObj, hitLocation, hitNormal = mirror.rayCast(reflectedVec, location, 60) #, None, 0, "", 1, 0)

is that the right code?

No..

Wait a moment

thats the one in the blend file i just got

Ah!

I was saving to a .blend1

oooh

@RadishBeavers pasteall.org/blend/40394

sweet. thats perfect

@gandalf3 trying to render that ray^^

@RadishBeavers

import mathutils
import bge

def shoot(self):
    startVec = mathutils.Vector((0, 1, 0));
    obj = self.owner
    vec = mathutils.Vector((0, 1, 0))
    sender = obj
    previous = obj.worldPosition

    while True:
        mirror, location, normal = sender.rayCast(sender.worldPosition + vec, None, 60)#, obj #, 0, "", 1, 0)

        bge.render.drawLine(previous, location, mathutils.Color((255, 0, 0)))
        previous = location

        if mirror != None and mirror.name.find("Mirror") != -1:
            vec = vec.reflect(normal)

@GiantCowFilms I just noticed: why is there a startVec?

I forgot to take it out

K

@TARDISMaker I'm not sure my pc will render particles ;D

now we need to draw a line...

@RadishBeavers The above code does that

Its not pretty though

Bug: it only draws if it actually hits something

@GiantCowFilms No, but I was just making it functional

@someonewithpc oh. sweet

@someonewithpc But I want it to look good before it works - Aesthetics Over function

@GiantCowFilms Any clue how to solve that?

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ could you make game music? or finish the one you started? iv always wanted to make a game w/ music

@GiantCowFilms How do you plan on seeing if it looks cool before getting it to work?

@someonewithpc I'm thinking some kind of after the fact blur filter

so we draw a white line, and then blur it and make it red

@GiantCowFilms Not what I meant

@someonewithpc shut up, I'm just an artist. Keep your techie mumbo jump for the nerds.

@someonewithpc should check the reply arrows

@GiantCowFilms ...

@someonewithpc Oh

@someonewithpc First question, if it misses, where does the line end

@someonewithpc :P

@GiantCowFilms Doesn't

That's the problem

but we need it to end somewhere

so why don't we just follow the vector out a few hundred meters and end it right there.

If it doesn't hit, it ruturns None for the hit posiiton

You could have a sphere/cube around the scene

@someonewithpc Mathematically defined

if the hits position is none, we make one

@someonewithpc hang on!

^^

@GiantCowFilms No

An object

Why have an extra expensive collision check?

What if there are walls

and we don't need to solve this issue

pasteall.org/blend/40395

@RadishBeavers Are there walls

or will the laser be able to go out into infinity

@GiantCowFilms Even if there aren't

I just solved it

@wuden :(

There's an invisible sphere

@RadishBeavers pasteall.org/blend/40395

@RadishBeavers If you see the lasers stop in the middle of the air (in the final game), scale the invisible sphere up

And change the 60 in the raycast code to be bigger

@TARDISMaker I think fur will require high number of particles (density of hair) so dunno i'll try later

Yeah

If you go with only that one view, you could cheat it a bit by only putting it on the head...

yeah but it moves :D

Oh...

I'm compiling blender! lets see what happens

@GiantCowFilms Did you manage to install CUDA?

You don't actually need it..

is that coding is python?

@wuden Yeah

@someonewithpc yeah

I BSoD'd, but my computer got over it

@GiantCowFilms Good

okay ;D

@GiantCowFilms What are you trying to do?

1. Compile Blender

2. Add cool new features

3. Proffit!

lol

lol

@GiantCowFilms Which is?

You'll find out

when I'm done

@GiantCowFilms Cool!

@GiantCowFilms Your computer will explode! :P

@someonewithpc Fun story!

A guy I new blew up his computer while compleing something

literally

it exploded

@GiantCowFilms How?

He is job was testing a compiler

That's not possible

Right?

@someonewithpc It was the monitor (technically), one of those tube ones

@GiantCowFilms Oh, that makes (a little) more sense

What happened is due to a bug, the compiler wrote stuff into the video memory

that caused the monitor to try and do things it couldn't

so it exploded

@GiantCowFilms That's a serious bug

Yeah

the best part is one of the developers came over to find out what happened.

and tested it on his computer

and also blew up his monitor

Which also exploded?

yeah

And this stuff wasn't cheap

Lol

this was back in the early 70's

or something like that

Thats blender

built by me, GiantCowFilms

Hooray!

@GiantCowFilms Well, on your computer

Yeah

All that I need to do now is change the icon and pull out a few features

and profit!

@GiantCowFilms Literraly

No need for new features, even

@GiantCowFilms What are you building for?

windows

@GiantCowFilms walls

[y/n]

@GiantCowFilms No, I'm meaning why

@GiantCowFilms Doesn't matter...

DOES TOO!

I couldn't see you building for anything but windows :P

Yeah

I'll make some cool features

@GiantCowFilms There's an invisible sphere

but the blender foudnation will reject them (you know how they are)

and the only way to get them will be a windows built on my site

@someonewithpc wow thats coop

#opensource fail

:P

@GiantCowFilms Free software..

@GiantCowFilms No they will not

it so nice to be working on something in real life, tell someone what you want, yell a little bit andd when you come back everything is perfect.

very refreshing

@someonewithpc They might

thanks guys!

with the way I code

@RadishBeavers ...

my code works

Don't expect that always happen :P

and it ends there

@GiantCowFilms Might

Woah - there is alot of stuff here

@GiantCowFilms ?

@RadishBeavers Am I not qualified as an artist?

@someonewithpc very gratefull radish. thanks. you're amazing

@GiantCowFilms um.. i've never seen any of your art

@RadishBeavers What makes you assume we can't do art too?

neither of you

@RadishBeavers Didn't you see that image I made for the BN header?

@RadishBeavers Fair...

(with gandalf, admittedly)

download Magica Voxel and start working then. :P

@GiantCowFilms yeah... i saw

@RadishBeavers Mostly because I tend not to finish things...

nvm

@someonewithpc same, but you've still seen my unfinished non-art

And I'm somewhat good with cycles.

@someonewithpc and @GiantCowFilms if you want to do art. theres a program called magica voxel that we are using. so you can download that and help i guess

@RadishBeavers I have posted a few unfinished things too

(I think that asphalt shader turned out okay)

@RadishBeavers Will try

@GiantCowFilms the last time you said this we got in an argyment.

We did?

sorry for my spelling today guys, my hands are all messed up

@GiantCowFilms yes.

What were the viewpoints?

i said something rude as a joke and you got really really mad.

@GiantCowFilms ?

@RadishBeavers So it had nothing to do with me using cycles.... ?

@RadishBeavers As he does...

@GiantCowFilms you said "im good with cycles" and i said "sure. lets go with that" and you said. "you don't think i am? " and then i said "weeeeelll..." and you said "!!!!"

and then explosion

I dunno when you're joking

@someonewithpc alot of the Radish-to-cow interactions go down that way

@GiantCowFilms bro, im always joking

@someonewithpc it took skill

@someonewithpc ?

????

@RadishBeavers How did you even do that?

@GiantCowFilms !!!!

You don't know how to do bold italics in chat????????!?!??!?!??!

What a loser!!!

lol

<jk>

@GiantCowFilms Had one too many _

i learned like a month ago

its "***"

on either side

@GiantCowFilms ‽‽‽‽‽

Sorry, buddy, this just don't work like you wan't it to

star star star

Oh that does work

YOU"D BETTER BELIEVE IT!!!

@RadishBeavers Underscore Underscore Underscore

lol

LOL

oh. hey. thats coop

this ain't going to stop

@GiantCowFilms What, the underscore?

Nu-uh

this is coup

Bro! STOP SHOUTING!!!

@GiantCowFilms This is soup!

g2g

what about a ***hybrid?___

lol

**Hybrid__

@RadishBeavers It's not shouting if you don't use caps!

or the __other way**

@RadishBeavers Nope...

@someonewithpc just whispering loudly

@RadishBeavers Yes

okay. 'nough of that. you guys want to be game artist or what?

cause our team needs a name. we can't just be "Those guys from BSE"

we need a title

@RadishBeavers I might be able to help

witha aname or with art?

@RadishBeavers We could

Nay, should

@RadishBeavers Both..?

@RadishBeavers What do we need?

i'll make mirrors. @GiantCowFilms you should make a basic wall, and @someonewithpc can make a broken desktop

And me?

@RadishBeavers What kind of broken desktop?

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ do you think you could do music? no-one else has the swag for it.

Maybe

What vibe?

idk folks, we're making game props just to throw around the world

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ that one you started before would be perfect

@someonewithpc or a wrecked model-t

Also, what sorts of blocking debris are you thinking? I can do some of that

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ @BookWyrm17 made some pillars, but some walls and stuff would be great

@RadishBeavers What game is this, by the way?

@RadishBeavers I can't... I already have way too many projects going on...

@someonewithpc Working Title: The-game-Where-Dinosaurs-Free-themselves-from-prison-using-Mostly dental-floss-and-lasers

@RadishBeavers Cool

@someonewithpc the why did you offer to become an artist?

@someonewithpc you like?

@RadishBeavers I will help with any new mechanics and small fixes

@RadishBeavers Sounds interesting

@someonewithpc okay. thanks. mental business card

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ @GiantCowFilms @TARDISMaker @gandalf3 @GiantCowFilms again @BookWyrm17 @Gwenn we need a team name so we won't be "People from BSE" anymore.

@RadishBeavers I didn't. I only asked why you didn't consider me capable of doing it

@someonewithpc oh

i thought that was "i am capable"

not "why don't you think i ma capable?"

@RadishBeavers I wouldn't reaaly say that, either... :P

@someonewithpc lol

@RadishBeavers For basically all projects we collaborate on?

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ maybe you could also model some mirrors? like we can have all sorts of different ones

Might not be a bad idea

@TARDISMaker yes

@GiantCowFilms o.O

oops

@gandalf3 Ikr?

@BookWyrm17 whe you recover your computer, just upload the model, i'll download them later

ill bbl

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Just occured to me, have you managed to get that laptop back?

@RadishBeavers how about "those BSE people"?

:P

Do we want to have it something like the website we are on, Stack Exchange? I would suggest something like "StackE Studios". If we are going for something else, something more based on who we are, I'd probably say TMGMMM (The Misscelanous Group of Man, Monster, and Machine) or something like that :P (I wish this thing would tell me how to spell misselanous misscelanous miccelsauoussnfhdkfhdfk)

@BookWyrm17 I don't think it should be have anything to do with SE (Lol)

@BookWyrm17 miscellaneous (yay my spellchecker prompted me correctly :P)

@BookWyrm17 Maybe just MBG?

Miscellaneous Blender Group?

That could work

@someonewithpc nope

I like miscellaneous :D

Still waiting for the fan to come in

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Too bad..

@RadishBeavers ok

@someonewithpc yeah

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Really?

Don't you have 2 day shipping?

2 week, not amazon prime :/

Couldn't find the right part

Had to get it by standard shipping

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Still way faster than I get