The Renderfarm

> “Free software” means software that respects users' freedom and community. Roughly, it means that the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. Thus, “free software” is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept, you should think of “free” as in “free speech,” not as in “free beer”. We sometimes call it “libre software” to show we do not mean it is gratis.

HATMAN

I saw that. how does that compare to open source?

someonewithpc

> Second, and more important in practice, many products containing computers check signatures on their executable programs to block users from installing different executables. (...) Even if the executable is made from free source code, the users cannot run modified versions of it, so the executable is nonfree.

> The criteria for open source do not recognize this issue; they are concerned solely with the licensing of the source code. Thus, these unmodifiable executables, when made from source code such as Linux that is open source and free, are open source but not free. Many Android products contain nonfree tivoized executables of Linux.

Android is "open source", but not free software

HATMAN

I see, that makes sense

David

5:40 PM

@someonewithpc, @GiantCowFilms, and @HATMAN here I come asking for UVs for another hat :)

HATMAN

lol

David

1

A: How to subdivide part of mesh but not apply the modifier?

The Subsurf modifier has no controls for limiting it to only part of a mesh. So if you want want to use that modifier, instead of some other techniques listed below, you are left with the top two options. Split the mesh. In edit mode, select the part you do not want to have subdivided and press...

HATMAN

Which one?

someonewithpc

So open source is a development methodology, free software is about the user's freedoms

HATMAN

Connect path! Whaaaat? That is cool!

David

5:41 PM

you guys should also UV the question

@HATMAN "is a less common but still useful tool"

HATMAN

Less common indeed

Never heard of it before

someonewithpc

Yeah, neither had I

David

PS is anybody still chasing hats on blender?

GiantCowFilms

@David did my part I have. (yeah, I've watched to many star wars movies lately)

Not me.

David

because I know of a super rare one that only I have on blender, but is easy to get.

someonewithpc

5:45 PM

@David Not me either

HATMAN

@David Sure

GiantCowFilms

@David Okay, I'll go for it.

David

really?

someonewithpc

@David Which?

HATMAN

I can spend a few minutes

David

5:45 PM

@someonewithpc winterbash2015.stackexchange.com/leaderboard/…

see if you can find it.

remember that list is hats only on blender

HATMAN

5 o'clock?

David

@HATMAN no, @X-27 has that too

HATMAN

. . .

A secret hat?

David

(that list is sorted rarest first)

@HATMAN yes

someonewithpc

@David It's the boat one

HATMAN

5:47 PM

No

David

@someonewithpc ding, ding. YES

someonewithpc

Post a comment on someone's (forget who it was) questions

HATMAN

What?

@someonewithpc A specific person

Did he make a post on BSE?

David

@HATMAN I said look at that list "remember that list is hats only on blender"

X-27

isn't my avatar nice?

David

5:48 PM

@HATMAN yep I asked him to :)

HATMAN

lol

someonewithpc

@HATMAN I know, but don't know which

HATMAN

WHERE?

David

blender.stackexchange.com/users/917/…

HATMAN

Eh?

someonewithpc

5:49 PM

@David Do I just comment?

David

@HATMAN he changed his name part way through the bash (too many ping maybe?)

HATMAN

We ping him

lol, probably

David

@someonewithpc just reply with the @father name

HATMAN

Nice to get that one on BSE too

David

someonewithpc

5:51 PM

@GiantCowFilms chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/26505101#26505101

David

this is when I tell users that they too can get a hat :)

someonewithpc

Yeah...

David

@GiantCowFilms yours wont count

GiantCowFilms

repaired

X-27

when do I get my h@t?

David

5:52 PM

@GiantCowFilms UV the question

@X-27 good one! very soon

X-27

@David don't you want the UV on your answer?

David

he already did

GiantCowFilms

This bothers me

I normally wouldn't UV that question

David

@GiantCowFilms what?

X-27

I'm sure you can undo it in a little bit....

@David right?

David

5:54 PM

@GiantCowFilms and I tried to make it better...

@X-27 huh?

GiantCowFilms

Still below the bar. And to be honest I think you answer is wrong too!

David

O yes, you can delete your comments after you get the hat

@GiantCowFilms then what is he asking?

X-27

@David Let me rephrase it. If a blue train is being derailed by a giant tomato, and a can of soda rolls onto a car making a jet of burning gas melt the ice on a lake, so that the train falls in, would you consider that yes, no, or mabe?

GiantCowFilms

I think we wants the equivalent of setting the subdivision method to simple instead of catmull-clark

that is unclear in the question, hence I am retracting my UV

David

ok

GiantCowFilms

5:57 PM

Sorry to be so serious, but I wonder who kept on telling me to do the correct thing and not the hat thing :P

@David earned my votes must be :P

X-27

ask in the hat store- those guys care not for rules or order :-) MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David

@GiantCowFilms no,no you are right. but what does the "but not apply the modifier?" mean?

@X-27 aka you

X-27

@David Yes, Yes, DESTROY!!!!!

David

@X-27 I did. all your comments.

X-27

GiantCowFilms

5:59 PM

@David Means still have a sub-surf in the stack

David

hmm

look at all the hair boats :)

someonewithpc

@David And yet I didn't receive the notification and the count is still the same

David

@GiantCowFilms you need a few more hats. so you can get on the first page of blender.

GiantCowFilms

Yeah

HATMAN

I got notified @someonewithpc

GiantCowFilms

6:02 PM

Sadly, I'm currently working on a project :P

someonewithpc

I did now

David

@someonewithpc I was going to say, it can take a bit of time.

someonewithpc

And it now updated

GiantCowFilms

I'm on topic!

A render, waiting for I am.

David

yep, us hat folks kind of know the timing for this stuff :)

X-27

6:03 PM

@GiantCowFilms Your actually waiting for a render!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

David

@GiantCowFilms wow now all conversation drops as everybody runs away

X-27

you can't just be topical- this is the renderfarm!

HATMAN

lol

someonewithpc

6:15 PM

def update():
    if getDistanceBodyToPreviousSq() > 100:
        global previous_body_position
        previous_body_position = game_objects['Body'].worldPosition

Why does the distance get up to a 100 and then becomes 0 for ever

@David ^^

David

@someonewithpc from only that function, I have no idea

someonewithpc

The update function runs every frame

and the distance is the distance from the body's position to the previous position

@David There doesn't seem to be anything else assigning to it

TARDIS Maker

6:57 PM

Unity is finally working properly for me!

I did their basic intro tutorial series last night

I'm going to try and modify it later on to make it bigger and cooler

HATMAN

Cool!

GiantCowFilms

7:09 PM

blendernation.com/2015/12/30/… would be so much cooler if it were compiled instead of python. I wonder if its possible to make some sort of complied addon thingy . . .

TARDIS Maker

Thats really cool!

I think there is a way to sort of compile Python code into C, but I don't really know much about it

I think the Molecular addon was done using that

GiantCowFilms

@TARDISMaker That thing was so so slow

TARDIS Maker

Yeah

But cool

GiantCowFilms

it was really awesome/powerful, but way to slow to be useable

TARDIS Maker

I bet is would be a lot slower if it was plain python

@GiantCowFilms Yeah

It was awesome enough for people to steal some things from the demo's

GiantCowFilms

7:14 PM

After I saw the speed difference between the fracture add on and the fracture modifier, I lost all faith in python

@TARDISMaker ?

BTW, what ever happened to the fracture modifier?

TARDIS Maker

Someone took some of the footage from the trailer for the addon, and put it in a simulation video, claiming that they had done it

@GiantCowFilms I know that it still exists

I don't know how close it is to being put into master though

GiantCowFilms

But when will it go into the main blender source

@TARDISMaker Oh eh.

HATMAN

It might not, I think there was some incompatibility. It is amazing how much better it is, so I hope they figure it out

TARDIS Maker

Yeah

It's so much fun, and the addon is too unstable for me to use it

And it's UI is terrible

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Why'd you have faith in python's speed to being with? :P

GiantCowFilms

7:28 PM

Good point

BTW, who's entering in my HDR challenge?

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Um... I might

When's the deadline?

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Have you ever seen molecular?

IIRC He used something called cython to somehow get a like 100x speedup

GiantCowFilms

We were just talking about that

@gandalf3 how recent

might have been after I tried it out.

gandalf3

idk

GiantCowFilms

Nothing can beat good 'ol C

gandalf3

7:33 PM

nope

Except maybe assembly ;)

GiantCowFilms

but writing assembly can be dangerous to your mental health :P

Okay

molecular is way faster then when I last tried it.

I'm going to have to learn how to use it now

TARDIS Maker

7:57 PM

@gandalf3 :D

Radish of Knowledge

@X-27 really? it looks like i'm the only one with it... but maybe i'm misreading it

i got to drive my dads car today.. marvellous.

oh shoot

nvm

i lose

lol

GiantCowFilms

8:12 PM

@gandalf3 is it possible for particles to pick up the rotational velocity of their emitter?

@gandalf3 figured that one out

but how about using a vertex group to control which faces emit particles?

@HATMAN @gandalf3 ^^

How can I only get certain faces to emit particles?

HATMAN

That is possible

gandalf3

with a vertex group ;)

GiantCowFilms

I tried, it isn't working. . ..

BTW, these are emit, not hair particles

HATMAN

@GiantCowFilms Well, it should be :P

gandalf3

9

Q: How to control hair particle position?

I am trying to make some grass. I want to have grass only near the edges of my plane and not on the center. Is any way to do that? Or I have to split the plane and make different objects?

particles

@GiantCowFilms oh

GiantCowFilms

8:24 PM

hair

these guys are emit

gandalf3

should be the same though..?

GiantCowFilms

Doesn't work

nothing I tried has

gandalf3

/me still working on game..

GiantCowFilms

@HATMAN?

@gandalf3 sorry to bother you.

gandalf3

not at all. I muted the ping noise, I just can't resist checking here from time to time anyway :P

HATMAN

8:25 PM

lol

Same here

GiantCowFilms

I get that all the time

@HATMAN figured out the case of the badly behaved particles?

HATMAN

nope, I'm writing music right now :/

GiantCowFilms

Well send it over when you're done so we can have a listen :D

HATMAN

Ok ;)

TARDIS Maker

9:26 PM

Unity is so much better than UE4

Now that I'm used to it, it's much more logical and easier to understand, and getting the coding right is pretty easy

HATMAN

9:46 PM

Well, here is what I have so far. Those of you with SoundCloud accounts, please leave some crits in the comments. soundcloud.com/nid_music/hill-cry-test-12/s-pv7MT

I think the spark sounds need to go, they don't fit anymore

TARDIS Maker

Will do :)

HATMAN

Thanks :)

Ping me when you are done please

Things I am questioning include:
-Develop first theme more
-More space before pianos come in
-Make woodwinds quieter at the end or take them out
-Add some minor percussion
-Remove spark sounds

TARDIS Maker

10:01 PM

@HATMAN Done

HATMAN

ok

TARDIS Maker

Hopefully my critiques are helpful and relevent

btw, Some Percussion would be nice ;)

HATMAN

ok

I probably have to record it myself, but I can make that happen

TARDIS Maker

hdrihaven.com

Oh, cool!

Greg Zaal seems to be going live with HDRI Haven in about a month!

@HATMAN What instruments do you have?

HATMAN

Like, none

TARDIS Maker

10:04 PM

:)

HATMAN

I can abuse a guitar and cello though and get some good stuff I think

Darn, your comments don't show on the track

SoundCloud must have a bug

It has the comment symbol with a 4 beside it, and right below it says "this track has no comments"

TARDIS Maker

Huh, they show up for me

@HATMAN :D

Do you have a grand piano?

HATMAN

Let me clear the cache

@TARDISMaker Sort of

A very old one

TARDIS Maker

You get get some pretty cool sounds from those strings

@HATMAN Out of tune?

HATMAN

And a lot of other things

TARDIS Maker

10:07 PM

Plus the sides and stuff

HATMAN

It is in a very high-traffic part of the house as well

TARDIS Maker

@HATMAN Yeah

@HATMAN Ah, okay

That's not the best then

HATMAN

yeah

I might be able to talk people at the local college to let me record on one of them

TARDIS Maker

I'd offer to record some percussion on real instruments for you, but I don't have a good enough microphone

@HATMAN That'd be cool

HATMAN

I am looking into buying a good microphone, but the are $$$$

Need to earn some cash

TARDIS Maker

10:11 PM

Yeah

I'm going to get myself a Zoom H1 before I invest in any more expensive audio gear

HATMAN

Good idea

I have one, and it really is handy

I just stick it in my pocket, and record some at least decent stuff on the go with it

Good enough for the level of work I have been doing I guess

TARDIS Maker

Yeah

The other thing about it, is that it will make a good start for recording audio for video

Especially if I can get a somewhat cheap boom mic

soundcloud.com/hybridtwo/to-the-ark

Man, I love that guys work

Even though it all tends to come out really similar

I'm going to go play piano

talk to you guys later

Never mind

My sisters cleaning on the main floor, and she doesn't like my playing

So I'll be nice to her

GiantCowFilms

10:42 PM

-1

A: Images in comments?

Use photobucket.com personally. Just copy the uploaded file URL using the easy copy URL button on photobucket site and just paste it here, using the little mountain icon that says "image" when your mouse hover over it. I also use mega.co.nz for uploading blend files, mega provide a very clean and...

Uhg

HATMAN

lol

GiantCowFilms

lol?

That guys is basically suggesting we risk a bunch of broken links

HATMAN

I was laughing at the idea

GiantCowFilms

yeah DV it. That is a terrible suggestion

HATMAN

@TARDISMaker I like this guy's work: soundcloud.com/johnhuijbers

TARDIS Maker

10:48 PM

@HATMAN He's pretty good!

HATMAN

This is one of my favorites of his: soundcloud.com/jon-bentley-uk/fire-and-ice

GiantCowFilms

Not to be overly critical, but why does it seem like every track on sound cloud is some generic ambient or epic music?

TARDIS Maker

Probably because that's what everyone likes to listen to and make

HATMAN

Because those are the ones you listen to?

TARDIS Maker

I think so

GiantCowFilms

10:51 PM

@HATMAN I don't really listen to that much music

TARDIS Maker

I don't think people have much interest in more traditional music. At least when it comes to orchestrations

GiantCowFilms

I find it makes it impossible for me to think, for me personally.

TARDIS Maker

But I could easily be wrong

HATMAN

@GiantCowFilms Then how the deuce are you forming an opinion on it? I don't quite get that

@TARDISMaker Quite often

GiantCowFilms

The thing is its all very similar and forgettable.

HATMAN

10:52 PM

I am more interested in the ones that are epic and have a powerful melody

GiantCowFilms

@HATMAN Because every so often I go digging around soundcloud for something interesting

HATMAN

ok

GiantCowFilms

@HATMAN Lots of these epic scores have a lack interest

TARDIS Maker

@HATMAN Yeah

@HATMAN That's pretty awesome sounding

HATMAN

@GiantCowFilms Not the ones I am talking about

TARDIS Maker

10:53 PM

Sounds like it would be in a film if it was an actual performance

HATMAN

A powerful melody is more than a brass section gone bananas ;)

GiantCowFilms

The artists you just posted fell right into that category.

HATMAN

@TARDISMaker Quite likely

TARDIS Maker

@HATMAN Yeah

HATMAN

@GiantCowFilms Yep, and it is not the best work. I could pick holes in it all day long. But why?

TARDIS Maker

10:54 PM

@GiantCowFilms Not quite

GiantCowFilms

But I have no taste in music

HATMAN

ok

TARDIS Maker

They aren't just a bunch of chords that sound epic together

They do have depth to it

EBrown

If anyone wants to discuss music, we have a chat room for that. ;)

TARDIS Maker

Even if it does sound a bit generic

EBrown

10:54 PM

Off the record

Welcome to the main chatroom for musicfans.stackexchange.com. ...

1

GiantCowFilms

I can tell the great from the good and the good from the bad, but I only have those three categories. I also couldn't tell you why any particular piece of music goes into any of those categories.

TARDIS Maker

@EBrown :)

GiantCowFilms

I can tell the great from the good and the good from the bad, but I only have those three categories. I also couldn't tell you why any particular piece of music goes into any of those categories.

TARDIS Maker

Okay

GiantCowFilms

@EBrown I don't find a need to sort discussion by chatroom, unless you run out of room (too many conversations)

TARDIS Maker

10:56 PM

Yeah

GiantCowFilms

to me a chatroom is less about the topic and more about who's in it.

EBrown

@GiantCowFilms Ehh, there's a Meta Stack Exchange about that.

HATMAN

Well you might find some people with insight on the given topic if you go to a different room though

EBrown

293

Q: Toward a philosophy of Chat

TL;DR: The Problem This keeps happening in chat: Surprise at flags on vulgar messages. Language that would invariably get your comments deleted on the main site occasionally gets flagged and deleted in chat. Confusion reigns. Controversial topics leading to bickering and name-calling. Folks b...

discussion chat feedback help

TARDIS Maker

@HATMAN Yeah

EBrown

10:56 PM

(Part of it covers remaining on-topic in rooms.)

HATMAN

Whaaaaaaaat?

TARDIS Maker

In this case, I don't think it's worth changing rooms though

GiantCowFilms

Guess what

we don't have a topic

TARDIS Maker

This is a BSE discussion

GiantCowFilms

so there.

HATMAN

10:57 PM

I make music for Blender games . . . right. Yes, it is on topic

GiantCowFilms

There is no way this chat is being locked onto blender as a topic....

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Yeah

GiantCowFilms

80% of the messages would be off topic in that case.

TARDIS Maker

Exactly

EBrown

If this room has no topic, then it shouldn't exist. Chat was designed to complement the main site. Yes, it's OK to veer off a little every now-and-then, but it should still be kept mostly on-topic most of the time.

GiantCowFilms

10:57 PM

staying strictly on topic is a great way to kill conversation

and then all that you get are some random blips and blurbs

TARDIS Maker

Exactly

EBrown

We keep our CR room mostly on-topic.

GiantCowFilms

and the occasional dude wondering in need help with some problem he can't explain

@EBrown We define our topic as whatever we are happy to talk about.

EBrown

@GiantCowFilms That's not what the chat is for, however.

I'm not saying you have to change what you do, just that it does bend the rules a bit.

GiantCowFilms

This complements main nicely

EBrown

10:59 PM

From the FAQ:

> When talking in a room, it's polite to stay roughly on topic for the room, as defined by the room owners. If you find yourself consistently veering into other topics, you should consider taking it to another room.

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Yeah

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