The Renderfarm

GiantCowFilms

00:59

@David @NoviceInDisguise @gandalf3 @iKlsR @someonewithpc @stacker @X-27 What happend:
Anything that is visited from a domain has to be on port 80, so when I added Blend-Exchange and apache, apache needed to have port 80. So did interplanetgame. Compramise, using apache proxies to send IPG though a subdomain. Here it the problem, IPG is not the only one who could send proxies, anyone could, as a result any message could be bounced of my server, spam inlucded.

So they proxied all there spam using my server, resulting in the abuse complaints.

gandalf3

I see

GiantCowFilms

So I just at to limit the proxies to my domain and boom! fixed, super simple!

The problem was I had no idea how they were doing it

gandalf3

Nice :)

@GiantCowFilms The css seems to be working, though there are a few rough edges I'm not 100% sure how to handle

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Did you commit?

gandalf3

yep

GiantCowFilms

01:09

Okay...

gandalf3

The rough edges are:

The logo image. It's already kinda odd at full screen widths (partially transparent, kinda arbitrarily positioned). But at tiny screen widths it goes half off the screen and I'm not sure where it go (partially because I'm not sure where it's going to begin with :P)

The navigation. I feel like horizontal navigation might work better, but it makes a whole bunch of rethinking needed at medium screen widths. It's working fine as is, so maybe just leave it. (If it isn't broke..)

GiantCowFilms

Okay, Let me look

gandalf3

The logo in general is also a bit rough at small screen widths

I've kinda drawn the line at 360px wide.. Below that things start to break

GiantCowFilms

Okay, I'll look...

let me just merge some stuff

gandalf3

But IMO 360px should be too narrow for anyone ;)

David

01:21

@GiantCowFilms wow, glad you figured it out and got it fixed. My question, how did they ever find a vulnerability like that (out of the entire internet)?

GiantCowFilms

@David They go around port scanning, searching. As soon as one figure it, they all jump in

@David if you look at apache access logs, you can see all sorts of bots trying out all sorts of attacks...

@gandalf3 I really like how it looks

But it really falls apart in small size....

David

@GiantCowFilms scoundrels.

GiantCowFilms

@David No kidding

some of them are really dumb though, very ammusing

David

no need using your "smart" bot, if the dumb ones get in first

GiantCowFilms

@David No, they are wasting resources

David

01:35

do you mean like a DOS?

GiantCowFilms

Every hour this bot comes to my server and checks for this one file with a known vulnerability... that was of course reported in 2007

That is the worst use of a bot every

@David I need to add measures for that still

David

I can't imagine trying to keep up my own server (like you are doing) way too many evil bot out there just to make trouble.

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 That is bit of an issue, since at a very important size of half screen the logo is cut off. I think the key would be to add margin (at least 100px) to the body... small sizes don't matter

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms What size?

GiantCowFilms

@David Yah... I'm exhausted... been working at this since early this morning

@gandalf3 Actually most sizes that aren't wide

but really bad under 600px

@gandalf3 I think I know what needs to be done, I'll add it

@David Image what google goes though

In there case they have real people actively attacking them constantly.

gandalf3

01:40

@GiantCowFilms I there already is a margin of 10px, simple to make it 100px.. but that would be bad at small sizes

David

@GiantCowFilms they have enough infrastructure. (and plenty of their own bots)

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms ??

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Yes, I'll fix that

@David True....

gandalf3

Could you add a screenshot? It looks fine here down to 360px

David

do you guys have a url I could try? or are you both working local?

GiantCowFilms

01:41

@gandalf3 Well its not bad, just crammed an the logo thing.... Also the input text is lost entierly, but oh well

@David both local, but I could without much effort setup a staging one....

David

why do you not do a collaborative session on js fiddle?

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 I'm fixing it up, really simple

gandalf3

okay

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 what adds the logo image

David

@GiantCowFilms jsfiddle.net/#&togetherjs=AAevwUxOz7

I'm in that one now.

GiantCowFilms

01:46

Who are you

David

later

be back later

GiantCowFilms

Okay, bye

@gandalf3 you're missing a closing tag in the header...

also, could I move the image above the text?

@gandalf3 fixed the logo css, commiting

@gandalf3 You'll find the changes in the newTheme branch, not master...

gandalf3

kk

GiantCowFilms

I'll move newtheme to master when newTheme is ready for the server

gandalf3

Will look at in a bit

GiantCowFilms

01:55

Okay

David

02:07

@GiantCowFilms I'm back now if you want to try out the js fiddle

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms You made the mediaquery width a little too small:

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 No, why?

gandalf3

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 I was about to remove that hover except when the media query says it small

gandalf3

^^ Doesn't look very good imo

GiantCowFilms

02:16

@gandalf3 Yes, looks nice when its ad the top, should just change to lighter when its in large mode

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms huh?

what?

This is before the media query css is applied

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Yes, it should only be applied after the media query

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Why?

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 it looks ugly in wide mode

gandalf3

Hm..

David

02:17

@GiantCowFilms do you like that js thing?

GiantCowFilms

If you have something fill on hover, it must be over a hover background

@David Yes... sorry I'm triple tasking

David

np later

GiantCowFilms

bye

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Yeah... I thought there was something wrong with it

The media queries don't line up between css files either:

GiantCowFilms

@David this should have a preview of the site, not working for me though

dev.blend-exchange.giantcowfilms.com

gandalf3

02:19

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 whats dat?

NoviceInDisguise

@GiantCowFilms Works for me

GiantCowFilms

Between which files

NoviceInDisguise

Looks great!

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms The media query in lighttheme.css should be 640px to match layout.css

GiantCowFilms

02:20

@NoviceInDisguise I think my ISP caches the DNS...

very annoying

@gandalf3 Should I or you change?

@David if your big on realtime devlopment colaboration see this:

c9.io

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms I've pushed it to my fork

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 okay

gandalf3

But such a small change.. you can probably "merge" it manually faster :P

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 It should auto-merge

gandalf3

true

GiantCowFilms

02:23

Updated

merging is only a pain when its not auto-but I've gotten a little work flow with VS's diff tools which are quite nice

gandalf3

Nice

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 The download page is a mess

gandalf3

The second media query which adjusts the padding.. Perhaps it could go a little earlier (590px)?

GiantCowFilms

I can fix it if you want, I'm not sure you can see it at all

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Ah, that's right.. I couldn't test it

GiantCowFilms

02:25

@gandalf3 Okay, I'll do it

gandalf3

All the other pages did okay without me touching them, so I hoped it would be fine.. :P

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Okay

@gandalf3 No its full of inline garbage

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms ah

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 IE 11 handles the site nearly perfectly

except for the links at small sizes

gandalf3

That's good news.. I think :P

btw, but the second media query also adds padding at the top and bottom

GiantCowFilms

02:28

@gandalf3 Yes it is

gandalf3

Not sure if that was intentional or not, as it doesn't have top or bottom padding at any other time...

GiantCowFilms

then I can make a fallback.css for old browsers with a fixed width

@gandalf3 hmm

@gandalf3 probably an accident...

NoviceInDisguise

Any of you guys going to try for the next BlenderGuru competition? I am a week behind, only found it this morning :P Got 36+ days on the clock though, so I am going to try for it. Got oneof the props almost halfway done today, so that is good

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise Cool, no I have nearly a page of security todos after this event...

I'm going to bullet proof my server

NoviceInDisguise

:/ Good idea!

gandalf3

02:38

@GiantCowFilms pushed a few small fixes

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Okay, will update

@gandalf3 the queries don't seem to match anymore

what size were you aiming for

@gandalf3 I, made some minor tweeks

gandalf3

02:56

@GiantCowFilms They are both 640 here..

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Well I fixed in my push....

anyway

shepherd

06:49

Hey guys

I have a question please

I have a mesh and I make automatic weighting. But the problem is that some vertices are not assigned to have any weight, and I can't locate these vertices due to the complexity of my mesh. I'm asking if there is a way where I can locate and assign auto-weights to these vertices? If anyone could please advise.

I posted a question here blender.stackexchange.com/questions/26498/…

shepherd

07:17

@gandalf3 would you assist me please?

gandalf3

Not too sure

shepherd

Can we talk on IRC?

David

15:27

@gandalf3 Congratulations on 50,000 rep!

GiantCowFilms

@David I already did that

NoviceInDisguise

Me too, I'm sure Gandalf still appreciates it :)

GiantCowFilms

2 days ago, by GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Congrats on hitting 50k reputation!

@NoviceInDisguise There is a think about being the first to congratulate! I'm just teasing @David

NoviceInDisguise

Yes, I guessed so ;-)

GiantCowFilms

@David @NoviceInDisguise and other who aren't developing blend-exchange, here is the new look. Uploaded blends are still visible on the normal site, so you can use it: dev.blend-exchange.giantcowfilms.com

NoviceInDisguise

15:33

Looking good! Nice work!

GiantCowFilms

Just don't link to it in posts on main or meta, since it will probably go away

NoviceInDisguise

It responds to different window sizes very nicely

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise Yes, @gandalf3's excellent work

NoviceInDisguise

I really like how the menu moves up to the top when it get's real small, very professional

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise @gandalf3's idea again!

NoviceInDisguise

15:36

:D

GiantCowFilms

Still working on this page :/

dev.blend-exchange.giantcowfilms.com/b/15

Wandang

17:09

hello

GiantCowFilms

@Wandang Hello

NoviceInDisguise

@Wandang Hello

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise Hello

:P

NoviceInDisguise

What's up?

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise The sky etc...

@David Hello

David

17:12

@GiantCowFilms after I posted that I went and looked at his profile. So he had 50K on the 27th, so I was late.

GiantCowFilms

@David I was on the day!

David

what did you remove? I only saw part of it

GiantCowFilms

@David remove where?

David

your second to last message

GiantCowFilms

@David Oh... it said ...I think but then I checked an it was correct

David

17:14

got it

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Are you going ahead with the dark theme?

David

the media queries are working well on bx. have you thought about animating the change?

GiantCowFilms

@David That kind of animation is very difficult, and always recks browser support

Wandang

re

was putting bread into the ofen

*oven

thanks for the active community

GiantCowFilms

@Wandang You can edit your posts

Wandang

17:17

questions get answered very fast compared to other se sites

David

@GiantCowFilms but who cares about the browser support. it is just eye candy if it is not supported, it does not matter.

Wandang

@GiantCowFilms i know :D i was to lazy

GiantCowFilms

@David Often time only part of it works, then you need to have code to make sure all of it works or none of it works....

Wandang

i am a stackoverflow user for 2 years now ;)

GiantCowFilms

Oh wow... haven't been kicked off yet, that is pretty amazing!

@Wandang Your profile says 3 years and 2 months

Wandang

17:19

oh, yeah then 3

time flies

I like how this SE uses GIFs a lot to show usage of blender

GiantCowFilms

@Wandang I wonder who started that...

I do love the gifs though, I use them in my answers all the time

David

@GiantCowFilms add ` transition: all .6s;` to your main #navLinks and #nav selectors. You will see what I'm getting at.

Wandang

In Arqade where i am mainly active they use youtube which is kinda slow

NoviceInDisguise

@David The css transition feature is amazing!

GiantCowFilms

@David will do this afternoon when I have time, though you could also get a github account and push the changes... ;D

David

17:23

@NoviceInDisguise I love it, makes boring ::hover great.

GiantCowFilms

@Wandang You need to introduce them to licecap

NoviceInDisguise

Sure does

David

@GiantCowFilms I got a github acc...

GiantCowFilms

@David ...No, it makes it annoying

@David Then fork the repo

David

@GiantCowFilms not when I do it

Wandang

17:23

I wonder how many of you have different backgrounds. Like some are classical model designers (i dont know the right terminus) and other are programmers mainly

GiantCowFilms

github.com/GiantCowFilms/Blend-Exchange

@Wandang Nearly everyone here can program web stuff

NoviceInDisguise

Really? I hate when you hover and suddenly the color changes in an instant. Seems sort of 2000ish

David

there forked

GiantCowFilms

@David ?

@David :D

Wandang

@GiantCowFilms no i mean as a main job. whatever they studied and graduated for

David

17:24

spelling again grr

Wandang

or do designer have web development as a standard part of their graduation? then ok :P

GiantCowFilms

Firstly quite alot of us are in collage, or even highschool

NoviceInDisguise

^^

GiantCowFilms

@Wandang Some do, depends on the program

@Wandang Also most blender people on here found this after using SO for devlopment

Thats how I found out

David

you really should file your files better. You have a lot of them dumped in the root PHP dir.

Wandang

17:27

I was forced to use blender and the google results were bad. Then i remembered SE and was wondering if they had a blender department :D

GiantCowFilms

I saw it in the hot network questions bar on a SO question on day and thought... Oh! I might be able to get some rep there finally

Wandang

which was a great find

GiantCowFilms

@David Live with it for now, I usually have to css js and images in special folders

Wandang

i did work over the weekend in blender (thats why i started asking questions on this se)

GiantCowFilms

@Wandang I see

David

17:27

@Wandang PS a lot of us are / were home schooled

Wandang

this work is part of an work place interview :(

GiantCowFilms

@Wandang Yikes!

Wandang

to check how fast i can work myself into completely new stuff

GiantCowFilms

You'll need more then a weekend to look like you know what you're doing

@Wandang Blender is hardcore course in new material

David

@GiantCowFilms folders, that is what I would do... anyway small css stuff is all I wil do now.

GiantCowFilms

17:29

@David Okay...

I may reorganize it at some point

Wandang

well funny stuff. they provided a CAD of an object in stl file format. after i imported that into blender i saw nothing

GiantCowFilms

but there are always alot of folders in root with a website....

David

should I create a pull when I'm done?

GiantCowFilms

@David Yup!

Wandang

only the origin of the scene where the object supposed to be. i then found out that the object was 5000 units away from the origin and the scene itself was bound to 1000 units. thats why i saw nothing :(

NoviceInDisguise

17:30

@Wandang Nothing even showed up in the Outliner?

GiantCowFilms

@David BTW, you'll wanna fork newTheme branch

David

@Wandang press NumPad . that is the period key, then try zooming in or out.

Wandang

but as a newbie i was confused and started rebuilding the object from scratch

GiantCowFilms

the master still has the old css

@Wandang :/

that sounds nastey

NoviceInDisguise

@Wandang Ah yes, STL has some issues like that, I've had experience with that as well

Wandang

17:30

the 3dcursor of the object was in the origin of the scene

GiantCowFilms

blenders import/export is a pain

Wandang

and i had the dimensions of the object, that was all info i had

David

@GiantCowFilms never used it much

GiantCowFilms

@David lucky fellow!

David

:)

GiantCowFilms

17:32

@David You did fork the right branch?

and be sure to pull into the right branch

NoviceInDisguise

yes, very lucky. I had to do a product viz several times, the files came in in a bit of a mess :P

David

master branch?

Wandang

so i rebuild the complex object with simple cubes ^^" which a day later i discovered was unnecessary since i could increase the scene to 10000

GiantCowFilms

2 mins ago, by GiantCowFilms

@David BTW, you'll wanna fork newTheme branch

did I just wipe that smile off your face?

David

good to know.

so now I re fork

GiantCowFilms

17:33

@David The master is always a copy of whats really running on the site

@David yup :(

and also make the pull request into newTheme

David

@GiantCowFilms whatever, I'm not a github expert yet.

GiantCowFilms

@David No, thats my thing, not a git thing

I always run on master...

then I make a branch for a BIG change

that will take a while

David

@GiantCowFilms Hold on, you are just trying to trick me. When you frok a repo, all of it is copied - all the branches.

GiantCowFilms

@David Oh!

I didn't know that....

David

Well then I helped your project already, and I did not write a single line of code.

GiantCowFilms

17:37

@David Lol

I should add that to the contribute page....

David

that can be my first commit- adding my name to your project. lol

GiantCowFilms

educate the manager, GiantCowFilms, since he doesn't know how to use git properly, can't secure his server and pushes changes without testing occasionally

@David Sure

I need to update the credits bit, @gandalf3 is now the desginer for real

David

if I start animating everything should I make a new branch?

NoviceInDisguise

@GiantCowFilms 700 rep and I'll be even with you :D

GiantCowFilms

@David Sure

David

17:40

you could of just quoted yourself.

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise No!

I had a server meltdown....

not fair!

I demand a 100 rep bounty

(so it can be fair)

bbl

NoviceInDisguise

I had a trip I had to go on

cya!

Wandang

18:23

i am going to, cya

iKlsR

18:42

6

NoviceInDisguise

That is very funny, and just as true :P

cegaton

18:56

@iKlsR IE should have been outlawed long time ago!

cegaton

19:19

Forget about the grease pencil! youtube.com/watch?v=emUlHFWcHck

2

gandalf3

19:29

:O

NoviceInDisguise

That is cool!

gandalf3

The Blender Foundation was rejected from GSoC 2015

NoviceInDisguise

:O

Any idea why?

gandalf3

nope

At least, not yet

They just found out about 40 minutes ago

NoviceInDisguise

:/

David

20:04

@GiantCowFilms I added a pretty render to my answer, so when will the UV start? :)

GiantCowFilms

@David a) its not that pretty, just a ball, and the lighting is dark, b) that answer is rather old...

@gandalf3 Shoot

David

@GiantCowFilms what? today is old?

GiantCowFilms

@David Oh, just by the number of answers I though it was old!

David

@gandalf3 wow did not see that coming. been every year.

GiantCowFilms

@David Make your lights brighter

gandalf3

20:06

lol, I beat blendernation :D

GiantCowFilms

also cycles, as a rule, looks better

David

@GiantCowFilms 3 is not a big number.

@GiantCowFilms I have only used cycles for more then a year now.

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms BTW the blinky thing was only working for webkit, I'll push a fix in a bit

I've also noticed that if you press "upload" repeatedly (maybe about once a second) it starts to not work after a while..

GiantCowFilms

@iKlsR Good image, I just hope project spartin helps fix that, not just spear even more devlopers

@gandalf3 Can I anit-star this?

gandalf3

lol

GiantCowFilms

20:09

@David wait, is that cycles....

@David give me the .blend, I have a few tweaks

gandalf3

Looks like cycles to me, unless you used raytraced AO or something in BI

David

@GiantCowFilms the opposite is called "flag for moderator attention"

@GiantCowFilms O, yah no blend. that is why :)

gandalf3

@iKlsR Go tell google to give blender their summer of code back ;)

GiantCowFilms

@David @David doubt that needs a .blend, but sure, I just thought the lighting could be better

@gandalf3 Yah! get 'em! or we will have to steal their glorified Lego shopping mall covered in cling wrap headquarters.

David

@GiantCowFilms it was a joke. I would not post it on that answer. But will be happy to let you show me how to make it better. But be warned I like to do post processing in PS.

GiantCowFilms

20:12

@David Sure

just use pasteall, since this is temporary

David

blend soon

Bug alert was going to try out this new blend hosting service I heard about, but:

"Warning: preg_match(): Delimiter must not be alphanumeric or backslash in /var/www/blend-exchange/finish/index.php on line 5
Invalid url"

@GiantCowFilms I guess I will have to use pastall

@GiantCowFilms here you go pasteall.org/blend/34772. Do note that I have a coupe of lights hidden.

gandalf3

methinks I found a bug in FF

David

@gandalf3 really? what I always use ff

gandalf3

Me too

But it seems animations can't be applied to the ::-moz-placeholder selector in FF

In chromium it works

@GiantCowFilms Sure, I might just clean up the css a little first though (indentation etc.), since I'll probably start by copying the light theme.

GiantCowFilms

@David odd bug.. looking now

X-27

20:35

0

A: Quickly add cubes

There is a fast, easy ten key combination shortcut for this. Space+ADD+Space+CUBE+Enter This method may seem a bit tiring if you only want to add one cube, but the next cube can be added much easier. Also, if you can type Really fast it might be faster than some of the other solutions to this q...

David

@GiantCowFilms what about my blend?

X-27

added another answer to my best question

with an awesome @gandalf3 style gif

GiantCowFilms

@David working on it, very grainy for some reason

David

@X-27 I love the opining line "There is a fast, easy ten key combination shortcut for this."

X-27

yah!

gandalf3

20:36

lol

X-27

Isn't it great?

gandalf3

@X-27 :D What did you use for the keypress display?

David

That is the funnest answer I read in a while

X-27

The same program you and @David were talking about

key cast ow

David

@gandalf3 he made it look (kind of) like the screencast addon

X-27

20:38

font- Eurostile LT ExtendedTwo (my favorite)

@GiantCowFilms Congratulations- spammers/hackers repelled.

20 hours ago, by GiantCowFilms

So I just at to limit the proxies to my domain and boom! fixed, super simple!

GiantCowFilms

@David ah, I think what you have works, my changes aren't fixing that much

X-27

@GiantCowFilms like my answer?

GiantCowFilms

Okay, I have to go

NoviceInDisguise

Bye

David

@GiantCowFilms too bad, I would of liked to see what you would of done.

GiantCowFilms

20:50

@David bug should be fixed

Ball render, I know its bad, but thats what I cooked up now :/

David

@GiantCowFilms can you post the blend, so I can take a look?

cegaton

@David the OP could not tell different people where giving different answers blender.stackexchange.com/questions/26496/…

GiantCowFilms

@David dev.blend-exchange.giantcowfilms.com/b/57

David

@cegaton Yep, as he had it at first I was confused too.

Wandang

wow

David

20:58

@cegaton I think your newest answer may be the best for that problem, it defiantly gets the cleanest uvs. (I up voted it)

@Wandang wow what?

Wandang

my vietnamese housemate brought me sugarcane juice

ultra strange taste

with a big hint of regret for drinking so much sugar

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