The Renderfarm

gandalf3

09:07

2.73 is delayed a day due to a keymap conflict

GiantCowFilms

16:13

@gandalf3 You mean to things with the same keyboard shortcut?

NoviceInDisguise

18:50

Oh dear! I have been having so much fun with the pre-release!

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Yes, but it should be fixed and release today

David

@gandalf3 blender should just make a custom keyboard with many more buttons, like lightworks did.

gandalf3

@David I always thought we should have a keyboard where the labels on the keys changed depending on context

David

@gandalf3 nice idea.

NoviceInDisguise

That would be pretty cool!

someonewithpc

19:08

gandalf3

@someonewithpc waldobronchart.github.io/ShortcutMapper/#Blender

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 That works

NoviceInDisguise

@gandalf3 That is way cool!

David

neither of you had seen that before?

someonewithpc

@David I hadn't

gandalf3

19:11

It's been updated since I last saw it

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Did you not manage to finish your entry?

David

hm, I just figured that everybody here read BN

someonewithpc

@David Nah..

gandalf3

@David That's where I got it :P

@someonewithpc Not in time, no. I might still post it though

It's not done yet

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Do post it; It should be cool

gandalf3

19:13

I'll try and finish it then

someonewithpc

Percent Answered went ever so slightly up!

Yay!

David

yes do, I have had too many projects just left un-finished

someonewithpc

@David That's the worst...

David

tell me about it :(

someonewithpc

@David Why don't you try to finish (some of) them?

NoviceInDisguise

19:15

I have the same issue . . .

David

@someonewithpc I dont know, some I get to a point and cant get past it (at that time). Others I just loose interest or I get a new idea.

gandalf3

Yeah.. same here

someonewithpc

If you open the Circle select tool change it's radius and close it - without using it - it doesn't save the radius

Is that supposed to be so?

gandalf3

Hmm

idk

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Bug report? It's really minor...

gandalf3

19:24

Maybe it's so if you press C by accident while scrolling you don't end up with a weird size later?

not sure

Maybe you could ask on IRC

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Maybe.. Let's just leave it as is

gandalf3

For some reason playback in my .blend is realllllllly slow

Makes it hard to work with..

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Many verts?

gandalf3

I'm in local view with a single Suzanne

With 1 level of subsurf

No other modifiers

Yet I'm getting like 4 fps

someonewithpc

I declare shenanigans

Restart?

gandalf3

19:30

I tried that already

Maybe I'll try 2.73

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Doubt it will help...

gandalf3

nope

o.O

Now it's suddenly 24 FPS

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 That's good; Don't question it

Just do your thing

gandalf3

All I did was close a pinned panel....

I declare bug, but I can't reproduce it now.

:(

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Bug?

gandalf3

19:33

Bug.

someonewithpc

BUG! Ahhhhhhhh.... *runs away - literally*

gandalf3

:P

someonewithpc

bbl

gandalf3

o/

o.O back to 4 fps now

Well good, perhaps now I can report it

Ah, seems the problem is having two 3D views open

iKlsR

@NoviceInDisguise Did you check out Sonic Pi?

NoviceInDisguise

19:44

@iKlsR Yes! Looks pretty cool! Using code to make music seems like such a geeky thing to do XD

iKlsR

@NoviceInDisguise I assumed like 8/10 of everyone on SE you were a programmer of sorts.. heh

NoviceInDisguise

I like programming a lot, and I enjoy making music a lot, put them both together . . . lots of fun!

David

blender 2.73 is officially out.

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gandalf3

yay

D:

All of my rigid bodies just changed their collision shapes to box o.O

someonewithpc

20:01

@gandalf3 .... Stability!

@gandalf3 Dafuq

gandalf3

ikr

I had this kind of problem before once and reported it

I'll see if I can reproduce it

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Any idea why?

gandalf3

I suspect perhaps when I opened the 2.72 file in 2.73?

That shouldn't happen though

That might be the kind of bug which makes 2.73a a thing :P

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Did they break the compatibility?

gandalf3

@someonewithpc I'm pretty sure they didn't want to

I'll have to test to be sure though

David

20:03

@gandalf3 there is always an a release

gandalf3

We haven't had as many recently..

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 That's what I'm thinking

@David Not always... 2.69 did not (I don't think)

gandalf3

^^

David

2.72, 2.70, 2.68, 2.67, 2.66 etc.

someonewithpc

Did you read this?

blender.org/press/…

EVERYTHING NODES!

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gandalf3

20:05

Read it before it was on BN ;)

David

and for the few releases without an a release it way proceeded by a b release.

@someonewithpc same as gandalf3

gandalf3

@David ?

parsing failed

Did you mean "and for the few releases without an a release it was proceeded by a b release."

David

@gandalf3 I was trying to say that there are enough b releases to cover the releases without an a release.

@gandalf3 yes

gandalf3

oh

David

@gandalf3 you know how close the y key and the s key are together. (shakes head)

gandalf3

20:11

Well, for me they are pretty far apart.. (qwerty)

David

same

gandalf3

:P

Is there an easy way to render an animation at 60 fps?

I mean, actually inserting more in-between frames, not just increasing the playback speed

someonewithpc

20:28

@gandalf3 Yes

gandalf3

How?

Does the framerate dropdown do that?

GiantCowFilms

@iKlsR 9/10

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 How come you not know something about Blender? They've taken the real gandalf away!

gandalf3

XD

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 I think so

gandalf3

20:30

I usually always just render at 24 fps

Never bothered with anything higher for render time reasons

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 It's your best bet; movies do that as well

@gandalf3 Then why now?

gandalf3

Well, I have a good reason for it

You'll see, if it works

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Fine..

@David blender.stackexchange.com/questions/22868/…

Post that as an answer

gandalf3

@someonewithpc Doesn't seem to be working..

someonewithpc

5 mins ago, by gandalf3

Does the framerate dropdown do that?

That?

gandalf3

20:34

I think that it might have just increased the playback speed

yes

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Do you know what happened to open subdiv? I vaguely remember something about 2.73...

gandalf3

It is delayed, they are waiting on pixar

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 For?

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms New update

GiantCowFilms

@someonewithpc Ah, okay

gandalf3

20:36

There was some performance issue I think

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms blender.org/press/…

gandalf3

^^

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms There's a section about that

GiantCowFilms

Okay thanks!

NoviceInDisguise

I'm looking forward to Everything Nodes!

someonewithpc

20:39

33 mins ago, by someonewithpc

EVERYTHING NODES!

So am I

NoviceInDisguise

That and the auto camera solver!

someonewithpc

@NoviceInDisguise That does sound awesome

NoviceInDisguise

Motion tracking
A couple of important updates are being scheduled for (video) motion tracking. This especially to get a decent automatic camera solving work – just one button press to get quick solves!

Working on it: Keir Mierle and Sergey Sharybin
Likely to happen in 2015: 90%

Pretty cool!

gandalf3

There are a lot of these...

0

Q: addon parameters are not editable

I have a problem that when I select certain addons that require parameter changes, I'm not able to edit them, they appear greyed out. I assume this is a system settings problem (since it happens across versions) and experience something similar when, for example, adding a circle. I resolved thi...

6

Q: Bottom of tool shelf grayed out

I have lost functionality in the tool shelf. When I click on a selector or something in the bottom part of the tool self that you can hide and unhide, nothing happens. I can see the options but when I click it doesn't work. See screenshot where it says "Add Cylinder".

interface

6

Q: What is causing disabled options when adding a mesh/curve object to the scene?

Sometimes when adding an object to the scene I see that all options (on toolbar or in window after pressing F6) are disabled. Can anyone tell me when can this happen? What is causing it and how to revert it - make it enabled again. It worked for me when I restarted Blender and reloaded the scene....

interface objects

2

Q: Randomize Transform is not available

I wanted to use the "Randomize Transform" tool as described here Or in the first half of that video. Following the video, after seperation of each individual cube into single objects, when I want to use the tool, everything is greyed out, like in the attached screenshot. What am I doing wron...

objects transforms

But it seems not all have the same cause

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Yeah..

That's the problem

gandalf3

20:57

Maybe I'll use the gooseberry branch

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 For?

gandalf3

As my everyday blender

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Why?

gandalf3

Why not?

David

@someonewithpc @gandalf3 do you really think I should post a "No" answer?

3

Q: Remove vertex while using knife tool?

When using the knife tool, if I accidentally click in the wrong spot, is there a way to remove the last placed vertex instead of cancelling the whole operation and starting over?

modeling mesh topology

gandalf3

21:00

Sure

someonewithpc

@David I do

There are many posts needing that

David

well this could be my shortest answer ever :)

gandalf3

2

Q: Are negative answers acceptable?

There are many, many unanswered questions asking if features exist or if certain behaviors are possible. For cases where features don't (yet) exist, but have plans to add them or such promising information, I'll add a comment. If there is a working patch or some way to get the desired behavior/r...

discussion statistics

^^

David

@gandalf3 I have no problem with an answer that says that it is not possible, but what more do I say besides "No"

gandalf3

@David Well, if you can think of workarounds or anything related to mention, that would be good

Maybe the connect vertex tool? (J)

I often use it where I used to use knife

David

21:02

ok, writing now.

David

21:26

@someonewithpc @gandalf3 blender.stackexchange.com/a/22874/2217

also take alook at the other answer, not sure if it should be flagged for spam or "offensive, abusive, or hate speech"

someonewithpc

@David I flaged as offensive

NoviceInDisguise

Nice answer! I don't know what that other person who answered was smoking though . . .

gandalf3

@David I like yours better than the other one :P

NoviceInDisguise

Vastly

David

ok, flagged as offensive as well, that explains the 6 DV in 3 mins. we have a good community.

someonewithpc

21:29

@David We do indeed

David

@stacker can you point me to some docs, or do you run blender with more then 8 cores?

@BlendingJake meanwhile you can use 64 cores. The 8 cores were an older hardcoded limit. — stacker 4 hours ago

gandalf3

@David Flagged, DVed, delete voted.

David

@gandalf3 would you mind if I added vertex connect to my answer?

gandalf3

@David Not at all

Nice answer btw

David

ok will do now. Thanks.

gandalf3

21:34

The negative answers are sometimes the hardest, because it's difficult to come up with content..

2

someonewithpc

@David We could split it; and get two answers

David

@someonewithpc there are already 2 answers :)

gandalf3

Not for long :P

someonewithpc

@David That doesn't count...

gandalf3

@David I didn't know there were any modal operators with undo built in.. Can you give an example?

David

21:35

just one more person with over 4k rep, and his post is gone.

NoviceInDisguise

One answer, one rant . . . hopefully minus a rant soon?

gandalf3

@iKlsR Can you see to this post?

David

@gandalf3 cgcookiemarkets.com/blender/all-products/…

someonewithpc

@David That's not really an operator

David

"Undo support – Unintended changes? No problem, just undo."

@someonewithpc true, but it does run in as modal operator.

gandalf3

21:38

hmm

Well for that matter none of the built in modal operators have undo support

Blender's undo system could use some improvement..

David

yes it could

gandalf3

IIRC there was some gsoc project working in that area, dunno what happened to it

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 There are more important things, though

gandalf3

@someonewithpc Idk. IMO undo is awfully important

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 Meh; kinda

David

21:41

@gandalf3 only if you make mistakes

gandalf3

How many times do you think you use it per minute?

@David haha..

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 0.2 - ish

While rendering :P

gandalf3

I see.

someonewithpc

33 secs ago, by someonewithpc

While rendering :P

David

@gandalf3 that is a hard one, would not even know where to guess. (but I did set the max up to 60)

gandalf3

21:43

I've unintentionally trained myself not to use it while making materials, due to the delay of reloading the entire file just to move a node back to where it came from.

David

@gandalf3 same here.

gandalf3

Using the VSE sometimes I've had the undo operator run for maybe 10 seconds (felt like longer :P)

It's really annoying because I use it so instinctively that I don't even realize it until I'm waiting for the thing to finish..

David

I guess it was kind of the same for me, painful learning the undo between object mode and edit mode, plus old blenders crash on any key press tendency, made me more reliant on ctrl s then undo.

stacker

@David Render Settings / Performance / Threads , switch from manual to fixed then you can use the slider up to 64 cores.

David

@stacker hmm, I looked ever ware for something. I thought sure that it was still limited to 8. then again that is probably because I have a quad core.

@iKlsR was that a record number of flags on one post?

iKlsR

21:55

Probably

Definitely downvotes tho

David

@iKlsR most of the DV were from the flags

someonewithpc

@David Does flagging downvote as well?

iKlsR

@David Downvotes != flags

David

when it is flagged as spam or offensive it gets one down vote per spam or offensive flag.

someonewithpc

@David I manually downvoted after flagging

stacker

21:57

Are hardware questions now on-topic?

David

@stacker I think most still get closed

iKlsR

No

David

(I was surprised that the cpu question did not get closed)

iKlsR

@David Which question is that?

stacker

@David I didn't dare to say that

Oh oh catched

David

21:59

@stacker ?

@iKlsR blender.stackexchange.com/q/21810/2217 (will this be the end of it?)

stacker

@David iKlsR will probably close the question now ;-)

David

that is what I thought, but he asked

iKlsR

Borderline at most, it's fine.

Also less incentive to close after it has been successfully answered.

David

that is good to hear

iKlsR

I might answer a question or two today.

With so many people around now I can be lazy.. ;)

stacker

22:03

Then I need to ask a few more question to see where the exact borderline is...

iKlsR

With all the action I've missed no idea how I'm still second highest in rep.

someonewithpc

@iKlsR The problem might be to find one :P

David

@stacker lol :)

iKlsR

I'm thinking of another answer the unanswered 2 day event.

probably this saturday and sunday

David

@iKlsR @someonewithpc meta.stackexchange.com/q/230753/278094

iKlsR

22:07

@David I didn't disagree I just said flags != downvotes all the time

David

the best link I could find to show the spam and offensive flags do DV the post.

@iKlsR ok, now I understand. Yes for the other 3 flag types it is very different.

someonewithpc

11 mins ago, by someonewithpc

@David I manually downvoted after flagging

David

@someonewithpc so you did, and the system would of DV it when you flagged as offensive.

someonewithpc

@David Fine

stacker

@iKlsR I'm no longer that eager as I was in the beginning, but would try to answer a few to improve the stats.

David

22:11

@stacker why, what happened?

blender.stackexchange.com/a/22865/2217 I just find it funny that it starts with "The Short Answer"

iKlsR

@David Troy is a detailist (is that a word).

Just glad more irc users are getting active.

David

more experienced blender users are always a good thing

gandalf3

Indeed

David

@gandalf3 this may help you with your frame rate question.

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Q: How do I animate time?

I have created a storyboard where I frequently switch between slow-motion and normal motion. The scene involves a particle system, several animated objects and an animated camera. How do I animate time for all objects globally? If possible I would love to do so using a curve so I can transition ...

animation

gandalf3

I know about that one

As a matter of fact one of my questions was merged into it :P

David

22:16

@gandalf3 (that is why I did not post it as a comment to your question)

gandalf3

lol

I hadn't seen the time remapper addon answer though, thanks

That looks awesome

David

@gandalf3 that was one of the first answers I UVed.

I thought is was just crazy awsome that the guy made an addon to solve the question.

gandalf3

bbl

6

A: Is there a hot-key to jump between markers in the timeline?

AFAIK, there is currently no shortcut in 2.68 to do this. (there was in 2.4x) However, you can create your own operator to do this using blenders python API: I am not very experienced in python, but I came up with two scripts for jumping to the next and previous markers: (pardon my bad python) ...

Admittedly I didn't know how to make a proper addon then :P

I started making one, but then it was put in trunk before I finished..

stacker

@David In the beginning we were a few people who posted answers. I started as a beginner and tried my best because I wanted this site too. Now we have much more users.

o/

iKlsR

o/

someonewithpc

22:21

o/

David

@stacker well, then all that is left to say is thank you. Thank you to you and all other past and present users that made this site grow and flourish.

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and now there are others, and more will join every day, to take your place as the "few to post answers, and really want this site."

iKlsR

Since we are going back to roots..

I never really wanted to be a mod but seeing that most of the people on the new site were fresh and I had experience I signed up to steer it in the right direction. I succeeded for the most part but my influence gradually died a bit. ;)

One of my best contributions was saying no to version tags. ha.

someonewithpc

@iKlsR Are you not enthusiasm-ed anymore, then?

iKlsR

@someonewithpc With more users, means less responsibility to answer hence less enthusiastic.

gandalf3

I've kinda felt a little bit of that

iKlsR

22:31

Kind of hard to believe it's been almost 2 years.

gandalf3

ikr

well, for me it's been more like 1 and a half

@iKlsR I'm glad this site had such a good moderator during those critical times

iKlsR

@gandalf3 I'm glad this site had someone to write good long answers during critical times. :)

gandalf3

Thanks for stepping up and committing so much of your time

@iKlsR lol

iKlsR

heh ;)

David

22:50

wow, you guys make it sound like we are nearing the end of a trip and we have to part company. I will have been here a year in 2 weeks, and I have seen the site grow a lot. New users join and get hyper active, and others die away. @iKlsR you have been the only consistently active mode we could depend on. @gandalf3 You are the head of b.se, your stats are un-matched my any one else, and we all look up to you.

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NoviceInDisguise

Quick half-hour scene. Cycles freestyle is so awesome!

gandalf3

@NoviceInDisguise Wow, nice

David

@NoviceInDisguise very nice!

NoviceInDisguise

I need a story to animate . . . I find different styles I can do, like pixelated Remesh scenes, semi-realistic, cartoon etc. but I don't have any ideas to make a good story with it. I really want to make an animation :-(

gandalf3

@David lol :P

David

22:54

I hope the "lol" was for the first part, because I meant every word I said

gandalf3

I hope we graduate soon™

@David it was

X-27

gandalf3

The ":P" was for the last part

X-27

Paint is also awesome

gandalf3

lol

X-27

22:55

@NoviceInDisguise yours is better though...

NoviceInDisguise

@X-27 Haha! XD The time spent on them is probably proportionate.

X-27

yah

David

1 min ago, by David

I hope the "lol" was for the first part, because I meant every word I said

except for the grammer and spelling mistakes, that is.

gandalf3

lol

(again)

David

:)

X-27

22:56

@David Why are you not wearing your time lord hat??

David

that is why this site is so great, it has grown past just a forum to get answers, to a community where we can hang out and talk.

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X-27

36 secs ago, by X-27

@David Why are you not wearing your time lord hat??

David

@X-27 I'll get to you

gandalf3

@David s/forum/Q&A site/g :P

David

@x-27 if you did not notice, the hat event ended :)

@gandalf3 what is the s and g for?

gandalf3

22:58

I'm used to sed syntax

s is for search

g is for global

(so multiple instances get replaced)

David

@gandalf3 lol, programers. like when ton wrote article on blender features and started his list at 0.

gandalf3

lol XD when was that?

NoviceInDisguise

@David lol

David

@gandalf3 a while back on BN, I could try to find it.

iKlsR

23:20

@NoviceInDisguise oh wow, that's cool

NoviceInDisguise

Thanks

iKlsR

my new wallpaper, hope you dont mind

the style gets me nostalgic somehow

David

@iKlsR how do you like win 8?

iKlsR

@David it's meh, mostly for games but I keep it clean, the dev environment is portable as well since I can use MinGW and cross compile

David

I much prefer win 7 over 8

iKlsR

23:27

my main system is arch

X-27

@David I'm still wearing my waffle

and @gandalf3 is still wearing his crossbow.

David

photoshopers, I'm true to the real hat

X-27

lol

LOL

LOL

(that's funny)

LOL

David

@gandalf3 found it! It was about project mango, not blender. blendernation.com/2012/04/11/online-casting-for-mango

Vince Scalia

23:55

Added another image to my answer.

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