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10:00 PM
@gandalf3 Whats SSAO?
Ah viewport AO
its in blender for real!
DOF
Dies of excitment
@VinceScalia You are seriously minge on your stars....
 
10:24 PM
@GiantCowFilms Screen Space AO
 
Figured it :D
@gandalf3 Why is it called screen space?
 
As I understand it, it's calculated in screen space
 
I think something like blurring the silhouette of the 3D geometry and then clipping it with the Z buffer
 
@GiantCowFilms As opposed to world or object space - way faster
 
10:25 PM
Ah that might explain some of the aritifacts
@someonewithpc okay :D
 
Indeed
 
The DOF is super cool though
 
yep
 
nice not to have to render to see what its doing...
Is motion blur next up?
 
o.O
 
10:27 PM
Would be really cool
 
I think something about real time compositing on the 3D view or something
Or GLSL nodes
 
@gandalf3 That would be awesome
 
@gandalf3 Oh wow
That would be pretty increadible
 
Node-fy all the things!
 
@gandalf3 What are those?
 
10:29 PM
@GiantCowFilms Not a thing, yet
 
@someonewithpc Amen
 
@GiantCowFilms Similar to openGL
 
esp. Particles
@someonewithpc But what do they do?
or should I say would
 
@GiantCowFilms Realtime, less accurate compositing, I'm guessing
 
Ah that could be really cool
@someonewithpc What happened to your commit, did it get though
 
10:31 PM
@GiantCowFilms No
It won't
 
why not D:
 
Unless someone figures out how to have the layout of nodes be dynamic
 
dynamic?
are they static?
 
Which I'll try, once I finish my current project
 
Whats your current proejct?
 
10:32 PM
@GiantCowFilms Dependent on the context
Such as mode
 
You mean they aren't ?
 
@GiantCowFilms A simple modifier; Or so I though - it's taking quite a while, plus I don't have much time
 
@someonewithpc Whats it going todo
 
@GiantCowFilms Are they? I don't think so
Last time I checked
@GiantCowFilms Move, rotate or scale an object :P
Rather useless
 
Wait does that mean there is no good excuse not to have the blur node in cycles?
 
10:34 PM
Mostly for learning, but I have a few use cases
 
Yes I do to
 
@GiantCowFilms ?
 
@GiantCowFilms Nodes for making GLSL (openGL Shading Language) node setups
 
Do you think I gave it a good close reason?
-1
Q: I am stuck please help!

Daniel KWrite a program that prompts the user to enter an odd integer and uses this integer as the sole argument for a value-returning function. The function should analyze the user's input and return a Boolean value to main. Code in the main function should notify the user if his/her input was correct.

 
kinda like material mode in cycles
 
10:35 PM
@someonewithpc If the nodes can be used across context, why don't we have a cycles blur node
 
but they could probably work in the GE and stuff
 
That would be very nice
 
@X-27 Pretty much
 
great!
-3 already, you all can CV also...
 
@GiantCowFilms I don't think you're thinking of context the same way as me
 
10:36 PM
@GiantCowFilms The cycles nodes are defined in OSL I think
 
@someonewithpc what do you mean by context
@gandalf3 Oh?
all of 'em
 
Context as in the current state, not as in the same code for all nodes
 
?
@someonewithpc what do you mean by "state"
 
Currently, there are like 8 node types scattered through different files. It wouldn't be realistic to want to merge them
 
yes.......
@someonewithpc I'm confused
 
10:39 PM
Eventually we might have modifier nodes, physics nodes, animation nodes, etc. etc.
 
nvm, I shall look at the blender source
 
@GiantCowFilms In this specific case, for the math nodes, not show the second input for the trig functions and add another input for the equals mode
 
if I find I need to make sense of this
@someonewithpc Ah okay
 
10 mins ago, by someonewithpc
Node-fy all the things!
 
@gandalf3 Do you know of a particluarly good information source for compiling blender
 
10:40 PM
git clone then make?
:P
 
I'm on windows
 
oh
 
things aren't so easy
 
@GiantCowFilms There is specific code for material texture and compositor nodes; but also OSL shader and GPU material nodes
 
I do have a linux VM, but its poorly configured, and way to slow the be usable
 
@gandalf3 Not on Windows, unfortunately
Luckily Xubuntu takes 3-4 seconds to boot
 
Building blender is not trivial... so comforting
 
On linux it is ;)
 
@gandalf3 That's extremely biased - Linux is mainly used and thus made for developers
 
10:43 PM
... Exactly..?
 
Also make -j5 is the way to go
 
why 5?
 
@gandalf3 ?
 
I typically do 4..
 
@gandalf3 I don't know!
 
10:44 PM
@someonewithpc Linux = made by developers for developers. So it makes sense that compiling source code would be easy
I don't see what's wrong with that
@someonewithpc :P I like doing the same number of threads as I have CPU cores, but idk why either :P
 
Windows = Made by developers for idiots, idiots who are expected to know how to use cmd
 
@GiantCowFilms But who are not expected to want error messages which contain information
 
@gandalf3 That would make sense
But read the link
 
interesting
 
10:47 PM
@gandalf3 Well idiots might panic when confronted with information to solve their problems
 
Under parallel builds, it says make -j(1 + number of cores)
 
yep
I wonder what the +1 is for
 
The main problem is that these developers think the idiots inherently can't understand anything they find useful, but are also unable to create anything they don't understand. As a result they went with gibberish
 
@gandalf3 A process for coordination would be my guess
 
@GiantCowFilms ikr. We wouldn't want any thing shudder useful now would we?
 
10:48 PM
Oh no
 
Oh No.
I forgot to select RGB A before rendering
D:
 
I still don't understand why sometimes in class, the teacher has problems opening a DVD with media player. Then everyone turns to me expecting that I solve the problem - usually 3 clicks
 
@gandalf3 You can render the alpha separately, using only 1 sample
Possibly even overide the materials with a white emission
 
They all (mostly) speak English - can they not read?
 
True, but I'll want a lot more than 1 sample..
Because motion blur
@someonewithpc Maybe clicking is the problem. Let's give them all touchpads!
And bigger buttons
 
10:51 PM
@iKlsR We should eliminate ALL tags and combine all of them into these five descriptively useless tags. , , , ,and
 
@gandalf3 Sure, that would totally survive long...
 
@someonewithpc Nope, the developers are literate, the assume the idiots to not be. That is why everything has an icon
 
think about it, anything you do could be tagged editing
 
@gandalf3 Give them a big red button, which does exactly what they're thinking and they'll still f*** it up
 
@X-27 Are you sure
 
10:53 PM
@someonewithpc Ahem
 
anything python or BGE related could be tagged scripting, and since Blender has a python console, technically Everything can be re-crated with scripting.
 
@X-27 I suggest merging editing with modelling
 
Anyhthing that happens in edit mode can be called modeling...
 
idk if would fit on this..
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Q: How is Cycles different from Blender Internal?

gandalf3How does Cycles work and how is it different from Blender Internal? Which is better?

;)
 
@GiantCowFilms What?
 
10:54 PM
That is just rendering...
 
But not
 
@someonewithpc your langague
 
@GiantCowFilms They still fail to do it properly
 
staring changes nothing
 
I mean, whenever you change Any setting or parameter, it could be considered editing.
 
10:54 PM
staring....?
 
@gandalf3 ****
 
@GiantCowFilms What?
 
There are like three different ways to interpret "staring" XD
 
Three?, I can only count to two ways.
Remember your dealing with a windows user
 
@GiantCowFilms Lol
 
10:55 PM
LoL
 
I'm not even supposed to be able to read (shh don't tell anyone)
 
@GiantCowFilms Are you using binary?
 
I mean hey, I run in binary!
@someonewithpc How did you manage to read my mind
 
I've never actually seen a windowz user who couldn't read..
 
Of course because the icons are meaning less
 
10:56 PM
Just because it's designed for a certain kind of user doesn't mean that it's users are really like that. Which of course is the whole problem
 
@GiantCowFilms Because I have a big red button
 
@gandalf3 The hole thing is a half joke (0)
 
ik :P
 
full jokes are (1)
binary :D
 
1. Staring (as in stare)
2. Staring (as in the act of starring a post, but miss-spelled)
3. Staring (as password=**************)
 
10:57 PM
@GiantCowFilms _Nega_binary is where it's at
 
What about a no-joke?
10??
 
@gandalf3 As in having a so called "star" in a show of sorts
 
oh dear
 
@gandalf3 ?
 
You're right
So many possible meanings o.O
 
10:59 PM
@David!
 
Windows Smart Error says: parse error! :D
 
Welcome to the mad house
You have two options
1
0
 
The monster has returned!!!
 
@gandalf3 English is ambiguous (no pun intended)
 
RUNNNNN
 
10:59 PM
Sorry, I only have a single digit processor
 
@iKlsR, and @gandalf3 I just got the pundit badge :)
 
@X-27 Is that a 1 or 0
 
@David OHhh- whopey! so happy for you.
 
@David Welcome to the club ;3
 
@David Nice!
 
11:00 PM
@GiantCowFilms always 0, it means false, and that sounds safer then true
 
@gandalf3 Is this the cool kids club?
 
No
 
@David Perfect, your stuck here, the option was toe leave
 
When did this become a Boolean?
 
It's the pundit-badge club..
 
11:01 PM
@X-27 False
 
true or false
 
@GiantCowFilms I'm not stuck! watch.
 
1 or 0
 
@gandalf3 There is nothing cool about a pundit... trust me...
 
10
 
11:01 PM
(I just wish I knew what a pundit was)
 
me two!
 
50 secs ago, by gandalf3
No
 
Yes
 
!!define pundit
 
true
 
11:01 PM
Whats a terrible joke?
 
@gandalf3 Which is cool, and thus the cool kids club (which I'm not a part of :/)
 
!!scales! Where are you??!!!
 
101
As in you need to read humor 101
 
(wrong room, Scales is only in "Scales"
 

 Scales

A room to play with scales. After staring in a movie, Scales i...
 
11:02 PM
ik..
 
@David See you're stuck
You haven't left
 
@GiantCowFilms I did.
 
Nope
Youre status is 1
 
but came back. (like I am about to do.)
 
in Scales, Apr 15 at 19:32, by iKlsR
Scales is dead.
shocked silence
 
11:04 PM
@gandalf3 Have you watched Sintel? :P
 
Yes.
 
Spoilers
 
@gandalf3 Chirp chirp
 
Soo... Does that mean little scales 2.0 is going to turn up now?
 
guess what- Scales IS dead
scales 2.0 might
mabey---
 
11:05 PM
@gandalf3 Then you get the joke...?
 
@someonewithpc Yes
Why sintel wai T_T
D:
 
@gandalf3 For a moment there I thought I couldn't English anymore
 
?
 
@gandalf3 Exactly
 
right.
Well
 
11:07 PM
I've forgotten how non sensical chat used to be
 
If you say so
XD
 
@GiantCowFilms This isn't even the final level!
 
@someonewithpc SODHGWO:RTHWO:T
Is the password correct?
or is it
sudo chat-re-level:final
and no that command probably wouldn't work on a real machine
but then windows users are only sudo machines
 
ohno
please be pseudo and not sudo..
 
@GiantCowFilms ... Sure
 
11:09 PM
What next
Finally the star!
 
XD
 
now I can stop making bad jokes!
Since there are alot of people in chat, I need to plug somthing
This needs a few votes
:D
Please please please
The GD.SE people want it, and I think it is a sorely needed part of SE
 
Speaking of bad jokes:

Three logicians walk into a bar; the barman asks if all three want drinks, to which the first answers "I don't know", the second answers "I don't know" and the third answers "Yes"
 
Lost on me
 
145
Portuguese Language

Proposed Q&A site for linguists, teachers and learners wanting to discuss the finer points of the Portuguese language.

Currently in commitment.

 
11:13 PM
@GiantCowFilms How is it distinct from area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/68361/…
?
 
Very
I think that the VFX propsal doesn't cover all areas of 3D
eg cad
etc...
and I don't think certain software specific questions would be welcome
 
296 messages o.O
You guys have been busy
 
Trust me you should be greatful at the horrors avoided
@gandalf3 Still, help the community adds...
 
25
Computer-Aided Design (CAD)

Proposed Q&A site for professionals, students, hobbyists and enthusiasts using both 3D and 2D CAD software.

Currently in definition.

 
11:18 PM
@gandalf3 Does VFX really cover 3D?
thats like saying Video Production covers VFX
The role down stops
well before the end of 3D
VFX is Nuke, AE, Tracking, Comping and some 3D, but I don't feel it should really be that involved
 
This is seriously the worst question I've ever seen:
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Q: I am stuck please help!

Daniel KWrite a program that prompts the user to enter an odd integer and uses this integer as the sole argument for a value-returning function. The function should analyze the user's input and return a Boolean value to main. Code in the main function should notify the user if his/her input was correct.

I don't even have anything to say about it. Just . . . yeah, not good
 
I know
I laughed
 
@GiantCowFilms VFX and computer graphics
 
Hmm
They you're saying I should plug that instead
the GD.SE people feel there needs to be a place for 3D Questions... I guess I could ask them about that
 
@GiantCowFilms Not at all
I just want to know what the difference is
> Modellers, Compositors, Shading and Lighting, FX artists, Matte painters, and Matchmovers are all welcome.
 
11:23 PM
I guess its a question of how far does VFX fall down into its subsets until they warrant their own sites...
Maybe its drops all the way in
Sadly though, its will be a bit harder to sell
I guess I feel the scope of VFX shouldn't be that deep, I feel that alot of 3D users would not have any experence with the rest of VFX, and the other way round to
 
^^ I agree
 
@GiantCowFilms I've typed up some discussions on the proposal, feel free to answer them if you like ;)
 
I was working on one
XD
However I think most of it should be allowed in the answer
@gandalf3 @NoviceInDisguise
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A: Overlap with computer graphics

GiantCowFilmsCurrently they aren't very different; however, I don't think that should be the case. To large a scope for a site can be harmful, and alienate many users overwhelmed by the quantity of irrelevant questions to their field. This proposal has a fairly massive scope, just look at the list of profess...

 
@David \o/
Club Elite commenters
 
11:38 PM
lol
 
@iKlsR Do you also get peanuts for bring part of the elite club?
 
@someonewithpc Yes!
 
(inside joke)
 
@gandalf3 now that is cleaned up, those community adds need a little bost ;D
 
@gandalf3 You should whip up a query for the rare badges here
 
11:39 PM
I'm one of the Peanut Gallery
 
0
Q: Overlap with blender

gandalf3Proposal: 3D Graphics, Modeling & Animation Will blender questions be on topic here? Or would they be migrated over to blender?

 
@someonewithpc Among who?
How do you two have an inside joke?
 
@iKw Where do I sing up? Is it invitation only?
 
@David I confirm you haven't left
 
@iKlsR thanks
 
11:40 PM
@iKlsR Like, to find rare badges?
 
@someonewithpc You can sing whenever you want :)
 
@gandalf3 meh, ignore it. It will die again.
I love how the new system shows the progress,
 
@GiantCowFilms mostly me, but also people that listen to the SE podcasts
 
ikr
 
@GiantCowFilms how?
 
11:41 PM
You're status is still 1
so you're in the room
You're stuck here
 
you're status has remaind one
 
I'm only a third of the way to that
 
I could get 2 new silver today
 
11:43 PM
@GiantCowFilms I'm over half way :)
 
I have all the bronze badges
 
except those for question
 
@gandalf3 what is your progress on the Legendary badge?
 
Now I feel bad
 
11:44 PM
@iKlsR :)
 
@iKlsR That is impressive!
 
I promise I'm not minge on my votes!
 
@David 34/150 :P
 
@gandalf3 nice.
 
I only have 4 XD
 
11:50 PM
@NoviceInDisguise 4!? I only have 3
 
you must have days when you are really active
 
Yes, especially around the holidays
 
@David Same as you
 
@iKlsR nice
 
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