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12:00 AM
I just counted my deleted post and I did 22 comments just for the record.
 
Ok I'll go for 20
 
20 seems hard to get in normal use. Try that, but I would guess that is would be about 10 or something.
Provided that waffles has to do with commenting.
 
@WillFisher did you get it quickly?
 
The hat script takes a while to run. The amount a time to wait depends.
 
Ok I've got Waffles
 
12:03 AM
Mine maybe took 10-15 min.
 
So don't need to delete the post
 
Alright, so now we know. We should have others trying to get it shave down the comment amount needed.
 
I'll try with 10 comments on the meta.SO sandbox now
 
Got it
So my guess of "post x comments on one post/question/answer" is probably right.
 
Guys, stll no answer on how to earn Clean-Up duty hat?
 
12:04 AM
Yep.
So we need to know: how many comments? and Is it a post, question, or answer?
Then we have got it.
 
Rob
@Noon @Panda - Since you like my animated knitting entries there's a Taylor Swift one that just went up.
 
?
 
I've posted an answer with 5 comments, lets see what happens
 
If it is 5, then waffles is too easy.
 
Every 15 minutes I'll add a comment
 
12:09 AM
I hope that it is 5...
 
If you know how to earn Clean-up duty, please answer here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/377905/… :-)
 
Great idea!
Unless waffles is timed, the 15 min thing should work.
 
But still let me see if the answer works.
 
he is 100% wrong
I did zero reviews and got it
it's definitely for (tag?) edits, I made around 8 of those in 2 days and I received it
 
If the 15 min thing doesn't work, then we know that waffles is timed.
 
12:11 AM
I'm currently waiting on a 10 comment attempt
 
@Dylan go getting that free pizza ready...
 
Got it.
 
How many did you do?
 
Me?
 
I made 10 comments on a non meta, non wiki answer of mine.
 
12:13 AM
@EthanK Yes
 
Oh.
I haven't done any yet, should I?
 
Or isn't that what you meant by got it?
Sorry thought you'd just got the waffles hat
 
Ohhhhhhhhh.
Sorry.
Nope.
I wish
 
That's the thing about meta.se of course - it counts as a main and meta site
 
I am doing 8 comments on one of my dead questions.
 
12:16 AM
So my meta.SO answer may not work
 
@WillFisher you earned it on main meta.se
 
@WELZ Yep, but here we're talking about their sock account
 
ah, ok.
 
I am doing 9 comments instead of 8.
I am doing it on SO
Anyone get waffles yet?
 
Also see if the post needs to be posted during WB
 
12:22 AM
Oh, good point. Mine isn't.
 
Ah mine neither
 
And if it needs to be a self post, or it can also be someone else that posted
 
Mine is a self-post.
That should matter, though.
Hopefully
 
And meta vs main
Usually the two are separate
 
Great
So much to test.
So little people.
 
12:24 AM
Well, i would really like to join this conversation, but i don't know how to get it :-), even tho i got it already..., lol
 
@U9-Forward You could try getting it on a different site
 
@U9-Forward you can join another site and try to get it there.
jinx
 
lol
 
I've also got it, and am now trying on two other sites
 
You can try getting it on the sandbox like we did
And test different comment amounts
 
12:24 AM
@WillFisher did that work?
 
CalvT and I got it with 20 comments on our own answer on the sandbox question
 
20 seems very unreasonable, considering they usually want to encourage "normal" behavior.
 
I say 10.
 
@CalvT @WELZ ih... i want to just be on one site :-)
Which is SO.
 
@U9- do you know around when you earned it?
The waffles hat
 
12:27 AM
Maybe: "10 or something comments on one post (question, and the answers)"
 
@WELZ Lol, i didn't do testing, i think i earned it two days after Winter Bash started...
Let me see.
 
On normal SO (not meta)?
 
@EthanK it won't say
 
Oh.
Has everyone been only commenting on there own answers?
 
@WELZ No, the day that winter bash has started, so the second hat i earned.
 
12:30 AM
How many minutes should I wait for Waffles (I did 10 comments on my own post on meta.se)
 
@EthanK i didn't do that, and out of nowhere, i got the Waffles hat :D
 
Wait about 15, but it is hard to say for sure.
 
@WELZ Only took me 4 minutes, but I'd say I was lucky with when the script run
 
@CalvT what time was that (maybe they run it every X minutes)?
 
Yep, that sounds lucky.
They probably do run every X minutes, but it would be hard to find out.
 
12:32 AM
I wrote about it in chat at 00:04 GMT
00:03 sorry
 
??
 
@CalvT That seems like they ran it on the hour
 
@CalvT I think that's the similar time of mine, how did you check it?
 
30 mins ago, by CalvT
Ok I've got Waffles
The timestamp on that
 
Nice way, I would have never thought of that.
 
12:34 AM
35 mins ago, by CalvT
I've just added 15 comments on my answer on meta.se sandbox, lets see what happens
 
Going back to this guy.. lots of comments on same post (possibly some deleted too)
 
The question is, how many?
 
Yea I checked him out
 
@EthanK I counted 20 from the same post
Maybe the number really is 20...
 
@WELZ Wow, maximum in a question is 12
 
12:37 AM
20???
 
@EthanK It may include Q's and A's from same post...
 
20 on the same Q&A or specifically on the answer/question
?
 
Maybe
 
I think that is it.
I just tried it.
 
21 comments on my post, fingers crossed.
 
12:38 AM
Was it 20 on just the answer/question alone or 20 in total for the entire Q&A
For the 3 rep guy
 
@WillFisher total
 
20 kinda seems absurd, I'm going to try 15
 
Okay.
 
20 comments on this post by the OP
 
I got waffles on SO with 20 comments on a post before winter bash.
 
12:41 AM
So awarded quickly?
And meta or main?
 
SO Main
And ignore my bad question.
and answer.
Side Note: That hat got me Propel Thyself (get 3 secret hats)
 
I didn't get it yet on MSE :(
 
You did 20 comments?
 
@EthanK 21
 
I just got waffles with 15
 
12:44 AM
Oh.
 
Thought 20 seemed a bit much
 
Have we tried 10?
 
Maybe they were smart and disabled sandbox from getting it?
Nope, just got it
 
Maybe...?
 
Here for interest
That means I should get it on SO shortly
 
12:45 AM
Waffles received 6 min after posting 21 comments on same post
 
We're just not being patient enough :D
 
:)
 
@CalvT what's you figure out?
Been gone
 
@Dylan waffles
 
almost.
95% there.
 
12:45 AM
What is it?
 
Post 15 comments on a post
Well 15 will get it
It may be less
 
Any post? Even answers?
 
Yes
 
LMAO!
 
We've been using the sandbox to test it
 
12:46 AM
That's hard to do.. lol
 
And on meta or main
 
It's kind of spammy
 
Both work
We think it may be the total across the question and all answers of a post
 
@CalvT I'm going to test it on a self answered question.
 
@CalvT because 15 on one post is a lot.
 
12:49 AM
@EthanK one post probably includes the questions and all answers on that post though.
 
3
Q: Maximum Value of $|\sum_{k=1}^n (-1)^{\lfloor ak/b\rfloor}|$

Will FisherLet $a,b\in\mathbb{N}$ such that $(a,b)=1$. If $2\nmid a$, then one can show that $$\rho_{a/b}(n)=\sum_{k=1}^n (-1)^{\lfloor ak/b\rfloor}$$ is periodic. Is there any explicit way to give the maximum of $|\rho_{a/b}(n)|$ in terms of $a$ and $b$? As a first attempt we can show that $$\rho_{a/b}(n+b...

I've been testing it on a self answered one
No luck for a while with 10
Im gonna try 15
 
@WillFisher add 4 on the question
 
Keep waiting!
 
Instead of the answer
 
No wait, do what @CalvT said.
No, wait, then do what he said.
 
12:51 AM
13 comments (8 on Q, 5 on A) on a self answered post, let's see what happens [00:50])
 
I already had waited 40 mins with 10 and waffles seem to be given out pretty quickly
 
Make it 14
Let's give up on 10
 
I already have 15 my bad, but split between answer and question
 
I'm gonna wait 15 minutes, check again.
 
Okay.
 
12:53 AM
i just left 20 comments
lets see what happens
 
We already know that it is less than or equal to 15, though.
 
Oh. Oh well. LMAO
 
Well, you will get waffles.
 
How long do we think it takes?
 
About 15 minutes, but it depends.
 
12:55 AM
Successful ones have been pretty quick
 
Hopefully I get it. I'll also get propel thyself then.
 
That was the same for me. I got waffles, then propel thyself.
 
Got waffles
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Q: Maximum Value of $|\sum_{k=1}^n (-1)^{\lfloor ak/b\rfloor}|$

Will FisherLet $a,b\in\mathbb{N}$ such that $(a,b)=1$. If $2\nmid a$, then one can show that $$\rho_{a/b}(n)=\sum_{k=1}^n (-1)^{\lfloor ak/b\rfloor}$$ is periodic. Is there any explicit way to give the maximum of $|\rho_{a/b}(n)|$ in terms of $a$ and $b$? As a first attempt we can show that $$\rho_{a/b}(n+b...

There's the record of what I did
 
Awesome
Pretty sure we have it nailed then
 
11 comments on my self-answer, and 4 on my question
 
12:57 AM
It must be 15 then, I did 14 and nothing
 
I'm going to delete the comments though
 
I just sent in a 15th comment, see how fast it goes
 
I think it is: "Post 15 comments on a single Q&A post on any site.
What do you think?
 
I agree. If WELZ gets it quickly then I think its confirmed
 
remove "single"
 
12:59 AM
Are you sure.
Oh, I see.
 
I may have jumped the gun - just edited the post to say "Post 15 comments on a question and/or it's answers"
 
That seems good.
 
So, "Post 15 comments on a Q&A post on any site."
 
Maybe "Post a total of 15 comments on a question and/or it's answers" is better
 
@CalvT +1
 
1:00 AM
Agreed
 
I got waffles!! Weww!
Honestly this info is almost too dangerous to share.. haha
 
Yea lol spam everywhere
 
And now for the last one: Clean-Up Duty.
Thoughts?
 
We are all gonna get called to the principals office.
 
lol
 
1:01 AM
Well done everyone! Applause all round for those who helped with waffles
Mystery solved, I'm off to sleep
o/
 
Bye!
 
Oh and @Dylan owes us all free pizza :P
4 hours ago, by Dylan
BUT, if you can figure out waffles... Ill give you a free pizza.
 
Right.
 
Sounds like they have a bit of a logistical nightmare coming up :D
 
GIVE ME MY PIZZA, @Dylan
 
1:03 AM
I have 8Q, 7A comments - no hat... I'm feeling cold and hungry.
I'm so darn impatient
Got it!
 
Good for you!
 
@EthanK the only thing I had done before I got cleanup was made a few edits on posts (only edited tags) and they were "approved" over 2 UTC days.
 
That's a start.
 
I think a good time to test it would be between 23:00 and 01:00 for better narrowing down.
Also, since I was suggesting edits on meta.se, it took some time to get approved, I want to try on my main site where I have edit privs...
 
Sounds good.
 
1:10 AM
@EthanK Was it actually you?
I will buy a pizza for whoever can prove they found it first.
 
I think.
I don't care, though.
 
Does Meta.SE count towards Brunhilde?
 
Yes
 
I have 2/3 sites done then.
 
Nice.
 
1:15 AM
Does +/- add up? If I get +150 rep, but also -12 do I need to get another +12 to balance it?
 
I think you have to have +150 rep all at the same time, but I don't know.
 
...in that case, I need another 120 rep on puzzling to get my Brunhilde. I better get posting, only 10 days left.
 
I wish winter bash was a mouth longer...
 
1:42 AM
Winter bash is awesome!!
 
Agreed!
 
Winter Bash is really just intuitively making users energetic to do stuff :-)
2
 
Your right.
But a least make it last longer!
 
Rob
@Panda - Answer in Sandbox and 15 self-comments as quick as they are accepted gave me waffles in less than 20 minutes. Scored propeller for a bonus.
 
Nice.
 
1:56 AM
@Rob ah I tried out just now and got it; thanks for cracking Waffles!
 
Your welcome, @Panda!
 
@EthanK :)
 
Wow, you are really into Winter Bash. I just noticed.
Wow. Just Wow.
 
Anonymous
@Rob Nice strategy, thanks for the suggestion!
 
Guys, i think everyone here got the Waffles, right?
 
Anonymous
2:10 AM
I'm waiting for my waffles to be delivered
 
@Mego I see it on your profile already...
 
Anonymous
Huh, I didn't get a topbar notification for it
 
@Mego Lol, that happens to me too :-)
 
Ideas on Clean-Up Duty?
 
@EthanK That's what i was ready to ask, i asked a question on MSO meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/377905/…
 
2:14 AM
But is that correct?, we should test it.
Also, how many flags?
 
Rob
@Panda @Mego - Better to try in the Sandbox than elsewhere. Mods do get alerts for excessive comments to one Q|A - probably driving new Mods nuts wading through the inbox to find stuff, fortunately the cream rises to the top.
 
Anonymous
@EthanK Probably deleting old comments, like Cleanup Crew from 2015.
 
Anonymous
@Rob Yep, I'm familiar with those notifications :P
 
How many is "excessive" ?
 
Oh. Time to delete all of my waffle comments and get it. :)
 
2:16 AM
@Mego Let me try..
 
Now I feel bad for what I did :S
 
Rob
Are there a lot?
 
Anonymous
@WELZ I don't know if the threshold is public knowledge
 
around?
 
Anonymous
I'm gonna play it safe and say "more than what would normally be reasonable" :P
 
2:18 AM
lol
 
@Mego is 15 comments reasonable?
 
Rob
Is your inbox packed from them?
 
across multiple posts (questions and answers) from one Q&A
 
I would say yes it is reasonable, or there would not be a hat for it.
 
Anonymous
Over at PPCG, we hit the threshold quite regularly, due to not being a regular Q&A site and getting lots of comments for requests for clarification on basically every new challenge that gets posted
 
Rob
2:19 AM
I cleaned up after myself.
 
Anonymous
15 comments from the same person on the same post will certainly not make the mods happy, but if you spread them out and make constructive comments (remember, the question/answer owner gets an inbox notification) or just do it in the Sandbox, you'll be fine.
 
Rob
My constructive comments were: "15 comments until I get waffles.", "14 comments until I get waffles.", etc. Constructive and factual. 🤪
 
@Mego it was a self answered question (I spread the comments across the question and answer) nobody else commented so no other pings.
 
Rob
I self-commented on my Wiki-answer, in the Sandbox.
 
Anonymous
@Rob Mine were "waffles numero X"
 
Rob
2:24 AM
Less constructive.
 
@Mego mucho constructivo
 
Rob
At least the Mods get a tip of the hat. :)
 
Mine was "Hi, I want waffles. X"
 
Rob
Too bad we can't use more than one hat at a time. I'd be wearing a Top hat with cool shades, eating a waffle while being circled in the ring of fire.
4
While standing on a pizza
 
You could feature-request it.
I would agree with you.
 
Rob
2:29 AM
afk
👍
 
When you do it, share the link so I can upvote it.
I like the idea!
 
Again, Ideas on Clean-up Duty hat, after this, i just wanna call it "unknowable hat" :-)
What, posted some code, removed it, accidentally press Ctrl+V
 
The final hat, the one that nobody can solve. Find this hat, and it is all over.
 
@EthanK lol, SE didn't work out well on other secret hats, because users just find the answer of how you get them,but they did work out well with Clean-Up Duty hat :-)
-1
Q: How do you earn the Winter Bash 2018 clean-up duty hat?

U9-ForwardI ran across this post: Winter Bash 2018 Hat list On MSE (for all the secret hats), and I realized that the answer doesn't contain the explanation of Clean-Up duty hat. I am just wondering how you get it? On the chat of Winter Bash, they gave me an idea to re-tag some old questions and some ne...

 
Are you sure that is it?
 
2:45 AM
Edited that link, since Waffle hat is discovered.
@EthanK WHat you mean?
 
It that how you get Clean-Up duty?
 
@EthanK That's why i make the link, because it doesn't work, and look at WELZ's comment on that answer
Also, the post is downvoted.
 
I see.
Let me fix the downvote problem. :)
 
@EthanK Thanks man :-)
 
No problem.
 
2:51 AM
@EthanK lol, :-)
@EthanK Realized ya should edit ya're profile, saying top answer is 8 votes now, after my vote :D
 
Oh. Will do.
Done
 
3:16 AM
here is a plus for ya @U9-Forward :)
 
 
1 hour later…
4:27 AM
@U9-Forward you need UVs or DVs?
 
... I know it's meta... but targeted voting?
 
That's what hats do to people...
For a few days now I have felt like writing something like "My Winter Bash rant"
 
I'm surprised "Post a total of 15 comments on a question and/or it's answers" is the trigger, after moderators got annoyed a few years back when people were posting a bunch of comments to get a hat.
 
I don't know. Its not the same for me this year. I'm not having the same fun I use to, have zero motivation to try to get the hard hats, and am seeing the "issues" hats can cause.
@AlexanderO'Mara yah I was rather surprised to see that as a trigger, but to quote the blog "Some of the triggers for the hats have also been refreshed"
 
Guys guys guys guys
 
4:35 AM
you got clean up?
 
You get the duck hat for discarding your question
Because
It's rubberduck debugging
 
Writing it made you realize the problem
 
@David John Rennie got one
And he doesn't know how
 
I got one on Ask Different, but don't know why.
 
@David Any idea why?
 
4:36 AM
Anyone tried waffles on non-MSE?
 
Did you delete anything?¿
 
I don't remember doing so.
 
Never fear Detective Kabaj is on the case
 
Can you get hats from meta?
Cos I posted like 20 comments on one answer yesterday and didn't get the waffles hat
 
@Catija Well kind of. Partially I just do not have the time to devote nearly all day to hats. Part of it is the Scarf Ace hat. Then there is the Silencium, and Explorer (especially explorer ) and Rep Hunter hats that I have no desire to try for. If your not planing on getting them all, then there is no reason to waste your time on them. There's more but I don't want to ramble here.
 
4:46 AM
@David If you have specific things that you want to get off your chest, feel free to email me. :)
 
@Catija thanks for the offer, but I doubt I will. If I do anything it will be a meta post about the bash.
although I'm not holding my breath on the meta post either.
 
So what about Silencium and Explorer is it? How difficult/impossible it is to control whether you get them?
I wasn't part of picking the hats... I would have been except I apparently timed my pregnancy just right to get out of it... but I'm guessing that at least part of the fun is putting out hats that people can't game. It pisses me off enough seeing someone in here asking for votes that I'm half tempted to delete their question to stop it.
 
@Catija Hard! unless you are doing something stupid, but actually writing good answers and questions. hard.
 
There's something fun about letting people who might not even be trying to get hats, get them. Sure, it makes it difficult (impossible?) to get a full set sometimes... It's like the tumbleweed badge, right?
 
@Catija yah the begging for votes is meh. ;/ not good, but for someone like me that has been around a few times, I can tell you it is probably the only way to get some of the hats.
 
4:56 AM
@David I think it depends on the site. :) Some sites have really crummy voting culture, so writing answers that get no votes isn't actually that uncommon.
 
@Catija yes, but only if you take a step back and look at the WB differently.
 
Or, you could write two answers in a row on the same post with hundreds of answers (like PPCG) and it'd be unlikely that someone would see the first of them and vote on it. :P
 
@Catija Ha. sure. say that after you try to get the explorer. Voting is odd. I can write an answer and get 0 votes for a few months, but during the WB, nope.
 
It doesn't help that one of the hats is "vote 150 times" and another is "don't get any votes on a post of yours".
 
in #WB17, Dec 25 '17 at 23:54, by David
see this is the part of the bash I like the most. (not the vote swapping) but the sportsmanship. We are all in this together. I just gave alecxe his last hat, and in turn he is helping me try to get it too.
 
4:59 AM
Whoever thought up that pair is diabolical...
 

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