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Kaz
3:00 PM
@DanPantry The performance is also amazing. V0.12 (I think we're on 0.13 or 0.14 now) can run that insane factory at 20fps on any reasonably fast computer.
 
I"m still waiting for Steam Support to give me my account back
 
Kaz
@DanPantry Go direct to the company. It'll cost you just as little and won't come with any DRM.
Did I mention it has in-built support for mods?
 
Playing this game is like coding when you're in "the zone". It's fun, productive, stimulating, and by the time you're done, you've aged 2 weeks.
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@DanPantry Why did they take it?
 
@skiwi Basically they suspected my login was suspicious since it's from Dublin
So they sent an email to my old email account
 
3:05 PM
@Mat'sMug I was hoping to at least get you to retract your vote...but yeah it sort of is... but most people don't realize that you can add the formatting to the variables when you interpolate. I think I will add that into my answer so it is a little more....
 
I tried to log into it
Microsoft suspected my login was suspicious because it's from Dublin
On and on and on until I run out of emails to try... lol
can't bypass steamguard, can't log into any of my emails
except the one I use most often
and they can't try teh debit card I used either because it's cancelled now that I moved
 
That sounds pretty crappy :/
 
I just bought my wife some clothes, so I might have a good chance at being able to buy the full version. as long as you guys say it is a good game, worth $20
 
@Malachi Ah, the presents or distraction tactic
 
@Malachi I played it before steam for like 150 hours at work. It's awesome.
 
3:13 PM
@skiwi she wanted them for a new job... so it might be a long shot....
 
Kaz
@Malachi Best $20 I've ever spent.
 
Agreed. If it says anything about the game, I think it's under-priced. There are lots of games out there that cost more that aren't half as good and after playing, I would have paid $40 for it without hesitating.
 
GRAH
Steam deleted all my favourite games.
 
bet that made you run out of steam
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before you ask where I keep those links
lol
 
3:29 PM
lol
 
Hmm, bookmark folders could work me too instead of tabs!
Achievement complete: Starwall starred
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Q: How can tilting a N64 cartridge cause such subtle glitches?

Jack MWhen the N64 cartridge is tilted in Super Mario 64, it reliably produces glitches such as this. Mario's limbs disappear, he rotates 90° and sinks into the floor, and the music gets messed up (usually it goes faster). What surprises me about this glitch is two things: It's a very specific and s...

 
@DanPantry Froggenspin?
 
...
 
3:38 PM
@DanPantry Spinning intensifies
 
hi @Zak lol
 
kik
 
@skiwi relevation of the year
 
Kaz
@DanPantry Oh, I was out of stars ages ago.
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just found out why my docker container wasn't working
it hasn't got git
 
3:39 PM
Mua ha ha ha ha
 
that's why I couldn't git it to work
:^)
 
docker doesn't git it huh
 
Is there a type of problems where Assembly is an answer?
 
@skiwi yeah, "Some _____ required"
fill in the blanks
 
oh, Jeopardy! "what is a compiled .net program?"
 
3:42 PM
"No, Dan, a 'waste of time' is not the right answer"
 
I was trying to be somewhat serious :P
 
@skiwi processor specific optimisations in systems engineering
wanting to write civ in asm because real devs use asm
(it's actually what civ is written in)
 
Not Civ 6, right?
 
oh, "assembly" as in
 
no I believe this is the original civ
 
3:43 PM
@DanPantry s/men/devs/
 
Making programs fast is a good reason, but usually that reason is not good
 
fixed it. /s
@skiwi I think the main reason i've seen it used is spceifically for optimisations for a specific processor in stuff like game engines or graphics or dbs or whatever
 
@skiwi I know! programmatically accessing the VBA call stack!
 
or like let's say you're doing embedded software and you know you will only be targeting one framework
@Mat'sMug that sounds like a good way to get a segmentation fault or other memory errors :P
 
there's no other way!
to be fair it also involves some C and hex code injection
 
3:46 PM
Reading a HNQ recently it sounds to me like optimization for for example the latest bunch of Intel processors is possible, if you have the raw numbers of latency and throughput... But compilers often produce non-optimal but still bloody fast code
> Assembly knowledge is useful for debugging code - sometimes a compiler makes incorrect assembly code and stepping through the code in a debugger helps locate the cause.
Isn't that just a bad compiler? ^^
 
Kaz
@DanPantry Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 & 2 were built by 1 Dev. In Assembly.
 
I think if you have to ask why you'd do it, you don't need to / shouldn't do it
 
Or is incorrect used for slower than necessary?
 
@Kaz it was me....
I was wondering if anyone was running out of stars on the regular.
 
Kaz
@Malachi I haven't been, recently, but the last couple of days I have.
 
3:48 PM
must be a new moon...
 
Kaz
> Sawyer wrote 99% of the code for RollerCoaster Tycoon in x86 assembly language, with one percent of the functions written in C for interaction with the Windows operating system and DirectX.
got $30 Million for his troubles.
 
was it worth it?
 
I'd write Assembly for a few years for $30 Million
(and spending the rest of my life in a psych ward)
 
I'd write brainfuck for a few years for $30mil
Hell, I'd write smut involving Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump with Ted Cruz for $30mil.
 
@DanPantry you could probably sell that book if you wrote it....
what is holding you back?
 
3:50 PM
50 Shades of Orange
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I am totally kidding, please don't write that book
 
Wow.
> The 64-bit instruction pointer RIP points to the next instruction to be executed, and supports a 64-bit flat memory model.
 
RIP.
 
So Brainfuck essentially is just an easier way to write Assembly? Neat.
 
> easier
lol
 
3:52 PM
@skiwi Easier?
 
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What? Do you think Assembly is easier than Brainfuck?
 
Yes.
 
Kaz
@skiwi Assembly has words.
 
Well... okay, fair point
I didn't know 64-bit Assembly has 80-bit float registers
 
3:55 PM
Assembly has words. It has the best words. All it's friends tell him he has the best words.
HA
 
@DanPantry European.
Made me lol for a bit
Would anyone here suggest to get actual certificates for stuff I'm interested in? Because when talking with a friend recently he said that hiring managers often look at one's provable knowledge if they are to give a salary
 
hiring managers will pay based on the role +/- experience + your ability to negotiate
they are hiring for a junior role you will get a junior paycheque despite whatever certs you have
 
@DanPantry Does the same apply for a senior role?
 
I find myself with pretty much no leverage on my first job interview though
 
@Hosch250 Not a senior, I imagine senior roles have a lot more leverage
@skiwi you don't need much leverage, you just need to be able to sell yourself
although certainly it helps
if you're at the point where you are discussing salary though you need to both agree on something you are both fine with.
 
4:10 PM
Pretend you have other options. Don't let them know you are at the end of the line.
 
certificates are largely for getting your foot in the door IMO
@janos has interviewed people before so maybe he will have a more accurate answer.
 
Another thing is that I'd strongly like flexible start hours due to medical, I'm just not sure where to mention it exactly... Do it too early and you shoot yourself in the foot, do it too late and the company might think bad of you for hiding it too long?
 
If a company already offers flexible start hours then it's fine, though the honest me says I need to tell them, but it's probably not wise
 
@skiwi that's gotta be on The Workplace
 
4:14 PM
@skiwi This all comes during the salary negotiation stage
flex hours would be part of a benefit you'd get
 
@Mat'sMug You're right, I don't want to directly link my accounts though
 
Make an anonymous one in incognito mode
 
Kaz
@skiwi Takes 60 seconds to make a new one.
 
puppets ftw
 
But my precious rep :( Well okay, anonymity over rep I guess
 
Kaz
4:15 PM
@Mat'sMug I think I've actually got 4 or 5 SE accounts knocking around ^^
 
BTW
 
Kaz
@skiwi Seriously though, read that link.
 
any reasonable company is not gonna get pissed at you for asking for something during the salary negotiation stage
If you get to that point, they are already interested in you and have to negotiate with you in order to get the hire
The worst they can say is "No", and then you have to work out whether or not you can work for them without whatever you asked for or go lower.
 
@Kaz I did a couple of months ago, maybe I should do it again :D
 
Just make sure that anything they do agree to is in the contract/writing
 
4:17 PM
So salary negotiation is the correct phase? I've had one interview though where they asked something like "Is there anything else worth mentioning?" before salary negotation
 
Compensation negotiation is a better term
Because compensation = salary + benefits
flex time would be a benefit
but yes, that's the appropriate time
*sniff* @skiwi is gettting his first job. they grow up so fast
 
@DanPantry Well, you already have a job :P
 
wat
I think you missed the joke, friend
 
There was a joke?
I must've really missed it then
> RIP-relative addressing: this is new for x64 and allows accessing data tables and such in the code relative to the current instruction pointer, making position independent code easier to implement.
RIP relative... Wow, that's really getting morbid
 
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Kaz
4:28 PM
@skiwi Basic rule of getting what you want. Make them decide that they want to hire you, then ask for the things you want.
If you put down an ultimatum (which is effectively what it is) before they've decided they like you, they're far more likely to just dismiss you.
 
This question looks off-topic:
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Q: Backpropogation in simple Neural Network

mnbvcI've been working on a simple neural network implemented in python. Currently, it seems to be learning, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be learning effectively. The graph below shows the output of my neural network when trained over about 15,000 iterations, with 1000 training examples (it's ...

(What do you think, @SimonForsberg?)
 
Kaz
> Can anyone offer any feedback on my implementation, and whether the backprop algorithm is 'correct'?
To me, it sounds On-Topic.
 
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Q: K&R 2.6 Exercise setbits(x,p,n,y) function

Muhamed CicakIs this code good ? Is it possible to improve it ? The code: #include <stdio.h> unsigned setbits(unsigned x, int p, int n,unsigned y); int main(void){ unsigned result=0; result = setbits(25,3,3,30); printf("%d\n",result); return 0; } unsigned setbits(unsigned x, int p, int ...

 
But the starting proposition is that it doesn't appear to be working as expected.
 
@Kaz I'd say it's not working as intended and OP is asking for help fixing it. "it doesn't seem to be learning effectively" "I suspect the issue is with my implementation of the backpropagation algorithm".
 
Kaz
4:40 PM
@JoeWallis My impression was "This is ML that is learning, just not very effectively". Which, IMO, is no different to "My code works, but takes far too long to execute".
 
@Kaz Hmm, yeah, I can see how you're coming at it, but I still think it's defective. I'll leave a comment asking if it's broken.
 
@Kaz Yeah, I can understand that... Really last thing I'm unsure of is if I should mention it if they ask about if there's "anything worth mentioning" or about medical issues
I personally prefer honesty, but I need to be tactful too
@200_success It depends (tm)... You can have networks that learn very poorly due to suboptimal choices in configuration, but for simple prozen issues the network should 100% work
This one might also be the case of "What you're doing is currently impossible", which is worth reviewing as the code could be correct, just the method may not be
On the other hand, the OP does not seem too interested in a code review, they rather want a neural network review
 
Kaz
@skiwi If there's something that might affect your day-to-day job performance, you should generally be upfront about it at some point in the process.
 
But then again a neural network is described in code
@Kaz Does that also include the salary/benefits negotiation part?
 
Kaz
4:56 PM
@skiwi More like the interview stage. And/or when they ask you. A lot of application forms will ask about conditions and such.
 
So preferable I'd mention it in the end if I want to increase my chances... but it could backfire
 
@skiwi Basically, the issue is: is a stupid brain a "working" brain? The answer could be controversial.
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Kaz
@skiwi Basically, if it affects your ability to do your job, be upfront about it early on.
If it doesn't affect your ability to do your job, mention it at your discretion.
 
Whenever I'm doing what I'm doing I'm good, just getting to work on time could be an issue on the odd days
 
Kaz
@skiwi Predictably a problem or unpredictably a problem?
 

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