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peterh

11:07

@πάνταῥεῖ Νομίζω ότι είσαι Γερμανός

@πάνταῥεῖ What did you again? :-)

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πάντα ῥεῖ

15:51

@peterh Bad things ;)

peterh

@πάνταῥεῖ "to cool down"... maybe you've written too many comments to the MSO?

@πάνταῥεῖ I typically get a lot of downs for my MSO activities, but only rarely suspension. Actually, I think, my most downvoted MSO posts are my best ones.

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@peterh No, I've written one bad comment on an off-topic question at Stack Overflow.

peterh

Es wäre so schön, einmal auf dem SE Network, auf deutsch zu reden

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@peterh You know it's forbidden and we cannot. Unfortunatley I am banned at the German chat server as well.

peterh

@πάνταῥεῖ It should have been some very... hard comment, to deserve a year long ban.

I think, on a chatroom linked with the German SE, it wouldn't be forbidden.

Well, also I got twice 1yr on the ServerFault, because I... adviced ;-) new users to use sentences, capital letters and so on. ;-)

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16:00

@peterh Well, another user was defending the question and I started to discuss with him. He said that the OP would never come back to Stack Overflow, seeing the downvotes and closing the question. I replied "Would that be really a loss? Why so?"

@peterh I stopped to comment on my actions for the usual case. But Tim Post got mad about this one (well, not completely undeserved).

peterh

@πάνταῥεῖ Oops

It seems I survived it quite easily my previous bans.

Würde ein deutschsprachiger SO dir gefallen?

I think, it would be a de.stackoverflow.com .

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@peterh Most germans speak english well enough, and many programming problems involve english technical terms. I don't think there's really a demand. It's a different thing with russian, spanish, portugese and japanese.

peterh

@πάνταῥεῖ Yes they speak well, but it does not mean that they would also like it. I never found an English Windows in Germany, and most programmers I know have never used any other keyboard layout than German. They don't even know, how to change their keyboard layout.

The question is not the demand, the question is the community forming power.

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@peterh "The question is not the demand" To open a new site at Area51 some demand is essential ;-P ...

peterh

And the community of already avid SE users, constantly asking the SE LLC, to create this site.

There was an initiative! It was killed by CM power!

More clearly, by Tim Post.

The supporters were collected easily. Then the SE (company) said, "wait a little bit". Then they killed the initiative and removed all traces that it ever existed.

Since then, asking for any non-english site is forbidden on the A51 by the rules.

At the time, they've also killed the French, Chinese and Turkish SO.

None of them are so good on English, than the Germans.

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16:12

@peterh Maybe too many f*****g german soup N***s there :-D

peterh

Maybe they have simple preferences. Some languages (peoples? countries?) they like, others don't. But if it is so, it is against the business interests of the company.

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@peterh Well, Tim Post is the Community Evangelist. You might ask him at Twitter.

peterh

Furthermore, the A51 is Cartaino's empire. But the post was killed by Tim Post. I think, if a CM changes the word of another CM, it should have a stronger reason that they changed their mind. I suspect, it might have been a command from a level yet higher.

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@peterh Think about how many times Joel Spolsky changed his mind about this business ;-)

peterh

@πάνταῥεῖ Yeah. Spolsky. He seems to be surprising inactive on the sites, despite that a primary interest of such a boss, to know his site from the first hand. Maybe he is here, but uses other accounts.

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16:18

Good that I am a room owner here, and it's not very busy. Otherwise I should exhort you to create a "private" chat for this discussion :-D

peterh

Another option is, that he has a life.

If you were suspended directly by a CM, do you think maybe a network-wide ban is possible, too?

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@peterh I seriously believe he does, and enjoys the money he earned ;-)

@peterh I am still up and well at other sites. If I behave, and nothing bad happens I don't think it's probable. Network bans, or lifelong bans are their really, really last resort.

peterh

@πάνταῥεῖ Yes, but most bans I've got, I've got unexpected. It is the nature of the bans - if you would expect them, you probably wouldn't do what leads to them.

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@peterh dailymotion.com/video/xsefeg

:-D :-D :-D

peterh

16:37

@πάνταῥεῖ I regularly check the network-wide ban lists on the SEDE, and... as I can remember, you are a regular occurence there.

And also I. Although the SE has somehow become more friendly to me, I don't know its reason. Maybe the growth of the count of the page visits I've caused.

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@peterh Yes, I was banned several times. All for different reasons, and at least none was expected by me.

I always tried to improve, and avoid bans the next time.

peterh

@πάνταῥεῖ I think this did not deserve a ban, or at most a short one.

@πάνταῥεῖ Sometimes ban have a secondary meaning. Mostly this: "We are hunting for you. If you come back, expect us"

@πάνταῥεῖ Sometimes mods/power users of the site contact me again, and they are friendly. Then I can assume, maybe they really don't hold grudges.

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@peterh It's a 3 stroke system taking it's way. After a ban for a month, you'll automatically get a year long ban the next time you fail. Just like american law handles such.

That would pose some good questions asked at Meta SE maybe.

@peterh Sure, that's somehow relevant. But what really attracts attention are negative flags, made from anyone. The more you're exposed, the easier you'll get them.

Especially at busy SE sites.

peterh

17:12

Probably I am one of the most flagged users of the MSO.

@πάνταῥεῖ I go away, have a nicer year! :-)

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@peterh I'll have to find another hobby. Or at least start to tidy my flat (gnmpfff)

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