Ask Ubuntu 2013 Moderator Elections

jrg

1:32 AM

hi

Nominations start in 18 hours.

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FEichinger

Wheee!

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fossfreedom

9:44 AM

... now why would you all want to have the most unglamorous position on the site ...?!

all the pain - none of the glory.

if you are UTC+4 or higher - come aboard - you can do all the work while the rest of us get some sleep ;)

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Amith KK

10:46 AM

@fossfreedom lol I qualify

fossfreedom

10:59 AM

@AmithKK let's see how you'll cope in the town hall ... get ready for some really hard Q's.

Amith KK

@fossfreedom I woke up at 2 in the morning last time :P

Aditya

@AmithKK And I go to sleep at 5 in the morning :)

fossfreedom

dedication - good trait to have. We expect 24hrs working 7 days a week.

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Journeyman Geek

2:48 PM

Not that I'm planning to stand but...
is needing to sign the ubuntu code of conduct something an elected mod needs to do before nomination, or is it something they need to be willing to do afters?

smartboyhw

@JourneymanGeek I think it needs to be signed first

Journeyman Geek

ahh

smartboyhw

Since people with 300 rep can nominate themselves, I shall join in the fun (No way of getting elected though:P)

FEichinger

I think so, yeh. But it's probably best to sign it beforehand no matter what, this time around ... Seeing how there's apparently some confusion regarding the "new" CoC.

Journeyman Geek

lol rep you mean

smartboyhw

2:53 PM

@JourneymanGeek Thank you for your reminder:P

Journeyman Geek

Its probably 'impossible' to get 300 people to nominate someone, anywhere

FEichinger

glares at SO ... You sure about that?

Journeyman Geek

about what?

jrg

@JourneymanGeek before.

Journeyman Geek

ahh

jrg

3:04 PM

still need to find out for sure if it's 2.0 or 1.x

Journeyman Geek

for some reason I found that unclear ;p

>_>

wouldn't that be something that needs sorting out? would be silly to disqualify someone for that ;p

jrg

ok, let me rephrase that: It's required in order to take the diamond.

smartboyhw

The newest version of CoC is indeed 2.0 (I remember I signed it through Launchpad the day it was released)

Journeyman Geek

ahh, so if someone got elected with the 'wrong' version they could before 'taking office'?

(not sure why I'm asking all this, but i suppose it would be useful to know ;) )

jrg

> When accessing the askubuntu.com, meta.askubuntu.com, or chat.askubuntu.com sites ("AskUbuntu"), Subscriber will also abide by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which can be found at ubuntu.com/community/conduct, and is hereby incorporated by reference, but solely with regard to AskUbuntu.

> Subscribers with moderator privileges on AskUbuntu agree to abide by the Ubuntu Leadership Code of Conduct, which can be found at ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct, and is hereby incorporated by reference, but solely with regard to moderators on AskUbuntu.

from the SE TOS.

Journeyman Geek

3:12 PM

>_>

that would assume that its 2.0 then

smartboyhw

:D

jrg

so... please sign, you're agreeing to it anyway, you might as well make it official with the ubuntu community at large!

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smartboyhw

@jrg anyway I've signed it

Journeyman Geek

XD

I'll look at the process when I'm ~~back in civilisation~~ booted into my KDE install on my desktop

jrg

heh

Journeyman Geek

3:14 PM

though I'm starting to be tempted to find room for my old laptop so I can have a dedicated linux box

now that school isn't all RAWRWINDOWSTOOLS

smartboyhw

I won't probably nominate myself now,19th and 20th is the hell busiest

Journeyman Geek

eh. I won't unless someone asks me to ;p

smartboyhw

Ubuntu membership application + IRC session about ISO tests to teach:)

jrg

@smartboyhw the links in the descriptions for dates aren't accurate.

the end date of the 20th is,

but you won't get your diamond for another 24-48 hours.

the usual allegations of sockpuppetry, punditry and baby kissing will be made, but everything will die down and it'll be ok. ;)

Journeyman Geek

@jrg: pfft. Our elections seem to feature marital infidelity ;p

(national, well byelections, of which we've had 2 already. SU elections tend to involve... not much)

smartboyhw

3:24 PM

@jrg I'll never get it anyway, my rep is too less

Journeyman Geek

on the bright side, you guys probably wouldn't have evan carroll ;p

@smartboyhw: I have more rep than a good chunk of SU mods ;p

smartboyhw

@JourneymanGeek I only got 447!

Journeyman Geek

XD

I have 704 ;p

smartboyhw

@JourneymanGeek the lower limit is 300 :P

Journeyman Geek

I'm still a user in good standing here, I hope

jrg

3:25 PM

heh.

smartboyhw

LOL

I'm real correct...

Ubuntu QA IRC session: 19th February, 2013,13:00 UTC

Journeyman Geek

I want to get to 3k tho, sooner rather than later

(cause being able to VTC is useful)

smartboyhw

membership application: 20th Feb, 2013, 12:00 UTC

@RolandiXor go for election would you!?

RolandiXor

e_e

I don't even know what's going on yet

just got here

Journeyman Geek

XDXDXD

smartboyhw

3:28 PM

@RolandiXor Nominate yourself to be a mod!

FEichinger

I'm probably waiting for who nominates themselves, then roll dice to see if I should type something up.

RolandiXor

I need more votes than that :)...

jrg

show a little decorum gentlemen.

RolandiXor

@jrg thank you.

smartboyhw

@RolandiXor You can just simply nominate yourself first

Then wait for people to upvote

Journeyman Geek

3:29 PM

@FEichinger: actually I tend to do the reverse. See who stands, see if there's enough people I'd rather have win, then not toss my hat into the ring

RolandiXor

@smartboyhw what I mean is, I need more people asking for me to run than that, because as I said, unless people actually want me to be a mod I'm not running.

Personally I'm not as enthused by the role as I once was.

smartboyhw

@RolandiXor I will go and get @AmithKK

Wait a minute I'm supposed to VOTE for @AmithKK !!!:P

Journeyman Geek

@RolandiXor: I hate to say this but.. people only tend to complain about people not running after the elections

FEichinger

@JourneymanGeek That's pretty much the same choice here. In fact, it's more about the fact that I'm not exactly the nicest of people.

RolandiXor

@JourneymanGeek true...

smartboyhw

3:31 PM

@JourneymanGeek Thumbs up

jrg

Oh man, we're going to have a bunch of 11th hour nominations...

Journeyman Geek

@FEichinger: its not just about niceness tho

smartboyhw

@jrg !?

jrg

@smartboyhw last-minute nominations.

smartboyhw

@jrg lol

@jrg how long is the nomination period?

FEichinger

3:32 PM

@JourneymanGeek I wouldn't even want myself to talk to a new guy on the site.

RolandiXor

"Community moderators are accorded the highest level of privilege on our community, and should themselves be exemplars of positive behavior and leaders within the community."

jrg

@smartboyhw couple of days.

RolandiXor

That right there should disqualify me right away, not so?

FEichinger

@RolandiXor Nah, @jrg is worse.

jrg

Ouch.

RolandiXor

3:32 PM

Lies!

smartboyhw

@RolandiXor Just thought of it....From your Google+ posts you don't seem to be POSITIVE in behaviour:P

Journeyman Geek

Well, there's times when you need to be politely nasty

jrg

if you have a problem with my style, meta guys. meta. ;)

FEichinger

@jrg ♥

smartboyhw

@FEichinger you want to go on Nuclearthermowar?

RolandiXor

3:33 PM

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FEichinger

@jrg I was just joking :P

RolandiXor

@smartboyhw :)

Just ask @Joshua @smartboyhw :)...

(Okay don't)

(that might not be a good idea)

smartboyhw

@RolandiXor !?

RolandiXor

@smartboyhw you wouldn't know...

Marco Ceppi

3:56 PM

Why isn't this in the main room?

jrg

@MarcoCeppi Shog9.

Marco Ceppi

Is anyone going to blog about this?

jrg

yeah, i was going to.

unless you want to.

Marco Ceppi

doesn't matter, just wanted to make sure it was out there

jrg

ok.

jokerdino

4:20 PM

Actually, I was about to but good thing I haven't finished my draft.

jrg

oh, go right ahead then.

i haven't even started

jokerdino

That won't be a problem, will it?

jrg

no.

you posting it won't be a problem, it just needs to get out there.

Eliah Kagan

6:12 PM

@jrg Did you end up finding out from the Community Council if we must require CoC 2.0 explicitly as a qualification for office? If so, does that mean the elections page must be edited soon? And what do we do about (as you mentioned) the SE TOS?

jrg

@EliahKagan i didn't contact the CC, i asked the other moderators. 2.0 is a requirement.

Eliah Kagan

@jrg K. Thx btw. Can the elections page be edited? (I'm guessing the TOS may take a bit longer to get changed.)

jrg

@EliahKagan i'm editing the election page right now.

Seth

Wow, stuff happening here

Eliah Kagan

@jrg Excellent!

Do we talk to Shog9 about the TOS?

jrg

6:15 PM

meta, but yeah. we'll deal with it later.

Eliah Kagan

@jrg K.

jrg

edited

begins in 1 hour.

Eliah Kagan

Not sure if it matters, but launchpad capitalizes to Launchpad, never to LaunchPad (it's one word, so no camel case is needed).

jrg

oh.

Eliah Kagan

At least that's how it's capitalized at launchpad.net and help.launchpad.net.

Seth

6:24 PM

Wow, looking at this page, I didn't know the sportsmanship badge was so hard to earn!

Eliah Kagan

6:37 PM

@Seth Yeah, only 12 people have earned it on Ask Ubuntu.

Seth

Wow

I don't even have 100 answers yet :(

Eliah Kagan

On meta, only Jorge Castro has it.

jrg

i don't even have sportsmanship.

Seth

6:59 PM

I know :P

jrg

55 minutes.

gertvdijk

What are your expectations about this election? A new record number of nominations? Will it be a very exciting run? etc.

jrg

exciting? yes.

record number of nominations? we'd need to get 11 who stick with it.

Seth

Looks like I won't be running. Just FYI.

gertvdijk

@jrg "we'd need to get 11 who stick with it." <-- ?

jrg

7:11 PM

@gertvdijk 11 candidates who don't withdraw before the election/primary starts.

gertvdijk

@Seth me neither. I won't have much time later this year.

@jrg else what happens?

jrg

ask ubuntu has never had a primary in a mod election. just nominations, and then election.

@gertvdijk if we get more than 10 (which would be a first), we'll have a primary. and lengthen the election.

which i'm ok with.

gertvdijk

ah that :)

jrg

provides for more opportunities for people to make a decision.

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and to come up with embarrassing photoshopped captain picard mugshots. :)

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Seth

@jrg does that photo embarrass you?

I thought you were proud of it :S

jrg

7:27 PM

No, I'm rather proud of it.

Seth

good :)

FEichinger

7:41 PM

20 minutes.

Seth

drum roll!

15 minutes

George Edison

6 minutes until the election.

@Seth: I've got my eye on you :)

gertvdijk

7:56 PM

in Ask Ubuntu 2013 Moderator Elections, 44 mins ago, by Seth

Looks like I won't be running. Just FYI.

George Edison

:(

gertvdijk

indeed.

jrg

And so it has begun!

what, no candidates?

@Seth :(

Marco Ceppi

I think it takes a lot to say you're not going to run

It's a big commitment, and it's like the worse thing you can do as a human ;)

jrg

^^ That is true. Both parts.

Gui

8:08 PM

Should I run? Does anyone think I can get more then 1 vote (my own)?

Marco Ceppi

← 6 messages moved from Ask Ubuntu General Room

jrg

@Gui subjective.

Gui

@jrg true, but I wasn't asking for facts, just opinions...

George Edison

@Gui Hey... haven't I seen you before?

jrg

@GeorgeEdison he's thex

Gui

8:12 PM

hi.

George Edison

← 1 message moved from Ask Ubuntu General Room

Gui

Yes it is me, the artist formally known, as @TheX

and more recently @Joshua

George Edison

You've changed your username.

Gui

@GeorgeEdison yes...

jrg

And we have our first ~~candidate~~ victim. @Obsessive!

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George Edison

8:14 PM

Yay!

jrg

right now, the race is neck and neck! Folks, this is tense. It's killing me over here!

SO MANY CANDIDATES TO CHOOSE FROM!

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Hello!

I can see you already see me.

maggotbrain

I thought there would be baby kissing and free Ubuntu phones for everyone. am disappoint. :-(

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ObsessiveSSOℲ

@GeorgeEdison You flatter me.

George Edison

Yes, we can.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

8:18 PM

Sorry, I can't seem to properly enunciate the past tense without turning into a pancake...

George Edison

I should close this as NARQ.

gertvdijk

@GeorgeEdison Yes. or as dupe of the 2012!

jrg

@ObsessiveSSOℲ: typo: core of conduct should be code of conduct.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@jrg Nice catch!

jrg

dropped a shoe @ObsessiveSSOℲ

ObsessiveSSOℲ

8:24 PM

I'm sorry, I don;t understand.

jrg

ever heard the phrase "waiting for the other shoe to drop"?

well, i just dropped a large boot on you. ;)

Gui

Well I will probably regret that... but oh well

jrg

@Gui is our second victim, and "forever" is a long time bro! ;)

Gui

I figure I have till I die lol...

ObsessiveSSOℲ

My nomination post is really tight, as I am one character below the limit

jrg

8:28 PM

wait, what is the limit?

Gui

I think I was 15....

jrg

so far, one spot will go unfilled! Who's tossing their hat into the ring next?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Found a typo. Now I'm at the character limit.

Marco Ceppi

@ObsessiveSSOℲ so you can only enter so many characters for nomination?

odd.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Yeah, that looks like the limit.

Marco Ceppi

8:33 PM

What if you go over?

sounds like a bug to me

Gui

@MarcoCeppi it won't let you post

I think it is 1200

characters that is minus white space

Marco Ceppi

My recommendations then, remove statistics and stick to why you think you'd be a good moderator, try to address common concerns in comments if possible, and prepare yourself for the town hall. Since you can see all your stats on this page

Gui

I am bringing cake to the Town Hall so I am good :-D

hen is the town hall anyways?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

8:47 PM

Launchpad won;t let me sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, 2.0, since it already has a signature for 1.1.

FEichinger

@Gui I don't think it excludes whitespace.

Gui

@FEichinger oh... well I don't know then :-P

Marco Ceppi

@ObsessiveSSOℲ you might want to open an AU question about that. I tried but also couldn't because I signed 1.1

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@MarcoCeppi Posted.

FEichinger

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Click the "signed" link, scroll down or deactivate 1.1?

I can't try it, cause I signed 2.0, but I'll write the answer if it works. :D

ObsessiveSSOℲ

8:59 PM

@FEichinger All I can do is deactivate 1.1, which I don't want to do if possible.

I don't even receive a prompt to sign 2.0

FEichinger

Deactivating it seems to work, though. :/

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Yeah, but I don't want to deactivate it yet, as I will be switching PGP keys in a few months, anyway.

And 1.1 won't suffice for AU?

FEichinger

Ah, bummer.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

will be back in 5 minutes

jrg

@ObsessiveSSOℲ you can deactivate 1.1 and re-sign 2.0

ObsessiveSSOℲ

9:07 PM

Yeah, but I want to hold my key switching until I switch all my keys over, if possible.

jrg

just switch your keys now.

Marco Ceppi

Just use the same key?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

OK, I'll do it sometime this week, when I don't have snoopy relatives over.

Marco Ceppi

I'd be happy if my relatives knew what gpg was, let alone tried to steal my keys

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George Edison

:P

jrg

9:11 PM

askubuntu.com/election/3#post-251366

yay! Thanks @FEichinger

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Yeah, you're lucky. One of my annoying cousins tried to arm wrestle me for my laptop. So I didn;t have to lose the laptop, I ended up messing with BIOS settings until it was too much for them.

George Edison

We have four candidates now.

FEichinger

"Thanks"? I knew it was a trap!

jrg

some people do DevOps, some people do NoOps, and others still do CleanupOps

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George Edison

Now that belongs on a fridge somewhere.

jrg

9:12 PM

@GeorgeEdison yessir.

FEichinger

@jrg lol

Gui

cydia is fairly useless right now...

just for the record

FEichinger

Right now, I'm kind of the flag bomber on the election ... Go figure.

Like, in relation to other metrics.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I'm kind of meta heavy, but kind of balanced.

jrg

@ObsessiveSSOℲ is pretty high on the flags too.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

9:18 PM

Thanks. :)

offtopic: Right now, I'm playing FoldIt, where you fold proteins, and I can't seem to get above 11,228 points. Grr.

FEichinger

@jrg That's why I said "in relation to other metrics" :P

FEichinger

10:04 PM

We're half-way to the magical number!

Seth

nice :)

George Edison

Another candidate!

Octavian Damiean

Holy smoke! Elections. :)

FEichinger

10:26 PM

< Sleeping, ping if needed.

Seth

@FEichinger Ping

jrg

> ubunturian

I like it.

FEichinger

?

gertvdijk

11:04 PM

@qbi "moderatur elections."

Luis Alvarado

11:50 PM

Hi guys, I wanted to ask a question about the moderation, let's say hypothetically I would compete in the nominations, is being a moderator more time consuming than a common user taking into consideration that for example, I connect literally every day to check stuff out. So do I have to connect more often (From 3 to 5 times a day or the whole day for example).

George Edison

I don't think so - as long as you can devote 30 minutes or so on a daily basis, that's going to be helpful.

It really shouldn't matter whether that 30 minutes is one long chunk of time or broken up across the day.

Luis Alvarado

Thanks George

Seth

so many candidates for this election

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@Seth Thinking of running?

Seth

that's a good thing I think ;)

Luis Alvarado