Warframe Talk

Frank

15:26

Railjacks!

Dragonrage

16:14

@Frank they are expensive to build. several million credits, plus a decent amount of other stuff including the new materials they added

Frank

@Dragonrage So, not really feasible for a solo clan at all.

Dragonrage

i think the 5th part for the railjack requires 15 argon crystal

@Frank the smaller the clan, the lower the building requirements

i think the railjack is the same cost regardless, but the dry dock costs significantly less for a smaller clan

Frank

@Dragonrage What's to stop clans from slimming down, building the dry dock, and then re-inviting everyone?

Although, that means you have less people to contribute to the cost.

So I guess that evens out?

Dragonrage

yeah

if you have 50 people who can contribute, its easier to meet the large amount of resources, and everyone can be involved

the hardest part is farming for mutagen mass

Frank

If the Arqade clan isn't active enough, it's going to be really hard to participate in railjack stuff.

Dragonrage

16:38

@Frank do you know what size clan the arqade is?

Frank

@Dragonrage It can't be more than a dozen people, total. Active? Maybe two or three.

Dragonrage

@Frank do you know if it is a ghost clan or a shadow clan?

the costs for building dry dock, and the cephalon arent too bad, but to build the rail jack which every person has to do on their own, is kinda expensive

Frank

@Dragonrage Shadow clan, I think

I might have most of that myself.

Tellurium, not so much. Gonna have to farm the crap out of that.

Which I have to, anyways, because I need it for Valkyr and Atlas.

Dragonrage

you can get from Tier 4 bounty of fortuna

Frank

I was hearing there's a Neptune mission where it drops rarely, too.

Otherwise, it's all Archwing stuff.

Dragonrage

16:49

the tier 4 bounty can also drop 2x of mutagen mass, fieldron, or detonite

Frank

Which I also need.

So doing that sounds like a good idea.

Dragonrage

depending on rotation, you can get one of those. its how i farmed all my mutagen mass i needed

though the bounties are bugged atm, so the one where you trap the little rolling disk doesnt actually work, so if it comes up, you have to abandon it and restart

but you can get 1-3 phases done first, each of which can drop the tellerium or the other rare drop

Frank

@Dragonrage How'd that happen?

Dragonrage

@Frank probably something to do with waypoint and path finding. waypoint are all messed up in fortuna atm

Frank

Oh, goody

Dragonrage

16:53

which i would assume relates to path finding, and i would assume that the little rollie things use pathfinding to get from where they spawn to the trap

and since path finding is all messed up, sometimes they drive into a wall and get stuck, other times they just drive in circles

very rarely do they make it to the trap

im hoping they patch it today

Frank

Abandoning doesn't make you lose your resources?

Dragonrage

no, so i was still able to farm enough mutagen mass, in a relatively short amount of time though

Frank

Wouldn't abandoning also allow you to just re-do the fourth bounty over and over?

Dragonrage

yeah, you just fly to the trap, activate it, then fly to the nearest solaris u agent and restart the bounty after the current one fails

takes about 20 seconds to fail after everyone leaves the area

Frank

That doesn't seem too bad.

Dragonrage

16:56

so, its not the end of the world, just annoying

Frank

Maybe even preferable if you're farming rare resources.

Dragonrage

you could do the same thing if you actually completed the bounty, but less people stay to redo if you complete the bounty

Frank

Oh, you can re-do a bounty mission? I thought you did it once, and then had to wait for the rotation to do it again.

Dragonrage

i managed to get in a party of 4 that was just farming mutagen, so we just sat their farming the bounties as fast as possible

@Frank no, you can redo them as many times as you want

Frank

Good to know

Might see if I can find a farming group tomorrow after work or something.

Dragonrage

16:58

they just dont count as new bounties when doing stuff like the nighwave missions

btw, you will also need to farm the new materials to build your railjack. need 100 cubic diodes, 120 carbides, 100 pustrels, and 120 copernics

cubic diodes come from ceres eximus, and carbides come from europa eximus. so i would suggest doing the endless dark sector missions there to farm them

pustrels come from PoE mining, and copernics come from Orb Vallis mining

total cost for your personal giant space ship is following

Frank

@Dragonrage "Personal"? As in, each person has to make their own?

Dragonrage

@Frank yeah

Frank

Ouch

I'm never going to be able to build one any time soon.

Nowhere near 6 million credits.

Dragonrage

i can boost you in credits pretty easily

all we need is to get you a credit booster, and ill run index with you

Frank

Credit booster, I can do.

I have 4K plat; back from my one 75% off coupon.

Dragonrage

17:11

oh nice. im down to about 1k, i should sell some spare prime parts i have

Frank

Only things I buy are more Warframe and weapon slots.

Dragonrage

17:26

ill post a Q/A about how to effectively farm credits later

have you ever done index with a squad?

Frank

Squad? No.

Index itself, sure.

Dragonrage

I will add a guide for index as part of it which gives ideal frames and strategies to use

having a properly geared team makes all the difference if you want to run high index quickly

Frank

I have quite a few prime frames, so I'm happy to do what I can.

Not looking to get carried.

Feeds

18:57

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Q: How can I farm credits quickly?

With the new Rising Tide update, I need 6 million credits to build my own railjack. What are the easiest/quickest ways to farm credits quickly?

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Dragonrage

@Frank ^

Frank

> Neptune Distuption

Should that be Disruption?

Dragonrage

19:16

yes

Frank

Maybe a piece on how to find a group would also be good.

Because a pick up group won't be organized to that degree at all.

Dragonrage

@Frank added, also added a section on weapons

yuritsuki

19:53

@Dragonrage

Are you sure you know what you're talking about when it comes to the Index

Dragonrage

yes

yuritsuki

Doubt it

If you are running Medium to High risk over and over

you are wasting your time and efficiency

Dragonrage

running only a single thing of index isnt efficient. running multiple is more efficient as you dont have to constantly pay the investment fee

eventually you will get higher level enemies as they scale each round

yuritsuki

30k investment is nothing if I pull 200k in 5 minutes

Frank

@yuritsuki Come on. What part of, "Be Nice" are you misunderstanding?

yuritsuki

19:54

The time on average for higher index runs can be 15-20

depending on your setups and gear survivability

Dragonrage

@yuritsuki its not 30k if you are resetting each time

yuritsuki

@Dragonrage What do you mean

30k initial fee

105k return

So I gain 75k

on a 2x booster, that becomes 210k return, 180k gain

Dragonrage

then if you pull out and reset, you have to pay another 30k

yuritsuki

Yes, you can farm close to .5 mil credits on a high-risk, but the time needed to reach that level can far exceed that of several smaller small risk runs

Like I said, 30k is nothing if you are still profiting 200k every 5 minutes

It's a lot easier to kill low level enemies

Dragonrage

or, you could stay invested and not reset and earn the full 210k the next run

yuritsuki

19:57

than to save 30k and fight level 100+ enemies

Dragonrage

level 100+ enemies arent very hard to kill

yuritsuki

I've tried that and it's a lot slower

Dragonrage

if you are geared correctly

yuritsuki

This is coming from someone with 100mil banked

Frank

Okay. I think that's enough. You have your answers.

yuritsuki

19:59

I think your issue is that you're seeing that 30k as a loss everytime. I see it as a convenience cost to quicker Index runs and thus quicker capital gains

Also, you should really try out Inaros with HP mods for Index, you'd really be surprised

The way Financial Stress accrues, you are punished more for having lower health amounts

Inaros has insane base, so even at max financial stress your eHP is still ridiculously high

I have 7.4k total on my Inaros, with max financial stress this brings me to around 500-600

Dragonrage

@yuritsuki it is a loss every time if the extra time to kill the slightly higher level enemies is less than the time it takes to leave and rejoin the match.

yuritsuki

And you pair it up with an armor mod

@Dragonrage You should probably double check enemy scaling levels

The extra time is signficant enough in my experience that it can easily take up the time for an extra low risk run

and more as well

You are dealing with walking giant piles of meat who wouldn't hesitate a second to 1 shot you

Dragonrage

you do you. my farming methods work perfectly fine for me, and i dont have any issues clearing enemies

yuritsuki

Then don't try to attack my talking points on my answer if it's a personal issue you disagree with

If that's your farming method fine, so be it. Notice how I only pointed out errors that were factually incorrect on your answer

I disagree with your recommended setups but if that's what works for you that's not something I can argue with

Frank

Enough.

You have your answers.

Let people vote on them.

Dragonrage

21:27

They fixed the orb Callie bounty issue :)

Frank

Excellent.

I hope to be able to get to that tonight, but I'm not confident; got freelance work after work.

Dragonrage

*orb vallis. didnt realize phone auto corrected to callie

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