English Language Learners

Damkerng T.

21:00

ell.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/11499

This edit is quite good, but I think "If I write a book with the all words in a language ..." should be corrected as "If I write a book with all the words in a language ..."

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Yeah.

Anonymous

ell.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/11495

Anonymous

Was this your review?

Damkerng T.

Oh, I misread your question

Anonymous

You are a robot!

Damkerng T.

21:08

Yes, I think it looks OK. :)

Anonymous

Then all is well! You accidentally clicked the right thing :-)

Damkerng T.

But I think I clicked the wrong thing in another review!

Anonymous

Oh! That's why I was asking if it was your review (meaning the one you were talking about)

Anonymous

ell.stackexchange.com/review/late-answers/11498

Anonymous

Was this the review you meant?

Damkerng T.

21:09

Yes.

Anonymous

It says "Reviewed" but I don't see any upvotes or downvotes

Damkerng T.

I wanted to leave it as is.

I upvoted ColleenV's comment.

Anonymous

> You could also say "seven four seventeen seventy six" for 7/4/1776

Anonymous

I'm not sure I'd understand that in speech . . .

Anonymous

Of course, in my world, dates always go YYYY-MM-DD

Anonymous

21:10

At least when they're all numbers.

Anonymous

In speech "July fourth, seventeen seventy-six" would be okay

Damkerng T.

The question was about "the break-in at Gringotts on 31 July"

Anonymous

Oh, I haven't even read the rest of the answer yet :-)

Damkerng T.

One speaker (Stephen Fry!) read: "the thirty first of July", the other read: "the thirty one July".

Anonymous

"The thirty one of July" is not normal

Anonymous

21:13

> thirty one July

Anonymous

That's also not normal (I think?) but, I think, less weird

Anonymous

You need to get rid of the the

Damkerng T.

I copied it wrongly! Sorry!

(Oh, and it's "thirty one July", no "the".)

Anonymous

Yay

Anonymous

I got a downvote:

Anonymous

21:16

I do not see why tool is described as figurative. Tools do not have to be physical. That doesn't make them figurative. — CarSmack 1 hour ago

Anonymous

@CarSmack The literal meaning of tool is in reference to a physical object. Many words have both literal and figurative meanings. This is normal. Language is full of figurative meaning. — snailboat 1 hour ago

Anonymous

To me you are confusing literal and physical. — CarSmack 15 mins ago

Damkerng T.

Hmm... Probably debatable.

Anonymous

The relevant definition in the OED is marked figurative

Anonymous

The original meaning is almost certainly a physical tool

Anonymous

21:18

The literal-figurative dichotomy can't really be strictly maintained, . . .

Damkerng T.

nods -- But the figurative sense is very common nowadays.

Anonymous

. . . but it's a useful way of explaining things nonetheless

Anonymous

Sure. Language is full of figurative meaning.

Damkerng T.

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Q: What does "without concession by" mean?

Ran into this: The exploitation of human beings in any form, particularly sexual, especially when applied to children, conflicts with the fundamental aims of tourism and is the negation of tourism; as such, in accordance with international law, it should be energetically combatted with ...

phrase-meaning

^is a review stopper.

Now I have to read a not so short question and a rather long answer. I'd better continue reviewing after a break.

Anonymous

I took the comments into account when coming up with my review.

Damkerng T.

21:25

I read all those comments too!

Which make this one really long!

Anonymous

You're a very positive reviewer!

Anonymous

That's not a bad thing, I'm just noticing :-)

Damkerng T.

Thanks!

Anonymous

I've noticed, watching other peoples' reviews

Anonymous

Some people are really positive people!

Anonymous

21:26

Others are pretty negative.

Damkerng T.

Oh!

Anonymous

On Japanese.SE, there's one reviewer who has done 60 reviews for the self-evals

Anonymous

And he has only ever picked needs improvement or satisfactory

Anonymous

Never excellent!

Damkerng T.

Hah!

Anonymous

21:26

A rather harsh grader . . . :-)

Anonymous

I've noticed that everyone has their own standards for these things.

Anonymous

You're positive! StoneyB was too, this time around

Damkerng T.

I'm only about half-way through.

Anonymous

That's what it says! ell.stackexchange.com/review/site-eval/history?page=1

Anonymous

Look! Everyone's reviews, laid bare for those with enough rep to see!

Damkerng T.

21:28

There is a pretty good chance that the next one is not going to get an Excellent from me. :)

Anonymous

Overall, most of our users have been pretty positive. But . . .

Anonymous

Em1 gave eight Needs Improvements!

Anonymous

(and two Satifactories)

Anonymous

Now I feel less bad for being as harsh as I was . . . :-)

Damkerng T.

Hehe. For me, you ain't no harsh at all.

Anonymous

21:30

I gave four Excellents, two Satisfactories, two Needs Improvements

Anonymous

and I skipped two

Damkerng T.

Oh, we can Skip in self-evals too!

Anonymous

Hey, I can go back and review the ones I skipped!

Anonymous

ell.stackexchange.com/review/site-eval/11471

Damkerng T.

Hah! That's really useful. I thought it's only one-off.

Anonymous

21:31

I skipped this one . . . the question doesn't make any sense. How can it possibly be answered?

Damkerng T.

Oh, they mixed up the perfect tense with the passive voice; and their examples have both!

Anonymous

And I skipped this one because it was difficult to wrap my brain around it: ell.stackexchange.com/review/site-eval/11473

Anonymous

But I suppose I can review it

Anonymous

> How are apples, peaches, pears, and oranges related to one another?

Damkerng T.

They are fruits, maybe. :)

Anonymous

21:37

Is not quite the right question

Anonymous

> What relationships do apples bear to peaches, pears, and oranges?

Anonymous

Sigh. I can't even blame my 's' key anymore… :-)

Anonymous

I just skipped it again… :-)

Anonymous

"Kids be scary" was one of my Needs Improvements.

Damkerng T.

Oh! -- curious

Anonymous

21:39

There's a specific correct answer to that question, but the answerer doesn't speak that dialect, so they don't know it

Damkerng T.

Ah, I see. But they probably knew it somehow!

I wish FF would answer that question.

Probably not gonna happen.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Wouldn't you want someone more familiar with AmE to answer it?

Damkerng T.

I would, but I didn't see one in the comments.

Anonymous

It's not related to "Here be dragons"

Damkerng T.

I hope you probably are considering answering it. :)

@snailboat Oh, it's not!?

Anonymous

21:45

@DamkerngT. No, "here be dragons" is a (faux?) archaism

Anonymous

"Kids be crazy" is just dialectal

Damkerng T.

Ahh... I took it as about the same thing.

Anonymous

It's called habitual be in the literature

Damkerng T.

It's raining again here. Sort of heavily.

Anonymous

So we have a commenter from the UK and an answerer from Australia, one giving irrelevant (but fun) information, the other giving misinformation

Anonymous

21:48

Oh, two commenters from the UK

Anonymous

I don't want to be the designated AAVE answerer! :-) Writing about non-prestige dialects is always like swimming upstream because of all the misconceptions people have

Anonymous

But I guess I should post an answer

Anonymous

After the self-evaulation, though

Anonymous

I don't want to interfere with the reviews

Damkerng T.

> The American fans are in the lead.

Probably okay, but I think it's awkward.

Anonymous

21:58

Hooray! Wait, what? Are they having a fan contest?

Damkerng T.

> At the match are American fans supporting Team USA and French fans supporting Team France. Then, Team USA scored a goal, going up 1-0. The American fans are very happy.

Anonymous

The first sentence isn't a sentence.

Anonymous

It's a noun phrase

Anonymous

So it's unclear how it's related in time to the following sentence by then

Anonymous

Oh! Now it's a sentence!

Damkerng T.

22:01

It's magic!

Anonymous

Now it goes present-past-present. I would like the middle sentence to say scores to match tense

Damkerng T.

If I corrected it, it wouldn't be what the OP wrote.

Anonymous

You hadn't told me yet that you were quoting something

Anonymous

So I wasn't sure what we were doing here . . . :-)

Damkerng T.

Oh, I thought you knew it already because you just edited the question!

Anonymous

22:03

Oh! I did?

Damkerng T.

You did!

Anonymous

Was it the one where I edited the thanks part?

Damkerng T.

LOL

Anonymous

Because I totally didn't read the rest of the question.

Anonymous

I just saw someone had bumped it already by answering, so I figured it wouldn't do any harm to sneak in a tiny edit :-)

Damkerng T.

22:03

Oh, you didn't. All you did was commenting!

Anonymous

Oh!

Anonymous

Where'd I do that?

Anonymous

Help! I have amnesia!

Damkerng T.

I don't think this is a proofreading question. It does ask if the sentences are okay, but it has some rather detailed explanation of the OP's thinking and is focused on a specific point, usage of in the lead. — snailboat 5 mins ago

Anonymous

Oh!

Anonymous

22:04

I remember that!

Anonymous

Yeah, I only skimmed that question.

Anonymous

See, I wasn't actually interested in answering it myself.

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

But it seemed unfair to meatie.

Damkerng T.

I just think that "The American fans are in the lead." is a bit weird.

Anonymous

22:06

Yeah!

Anonymous

Are they having some kind of fan contest?

Anonymous

Sorry, I'm a little slow to catch on sometimes :-)

Damkerng T.

Obviously not, which makes it weird.

Anonymous

Yeah, it's weird. :-)

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I think it was my fault. I had the wrong assumption!

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Q: Finding a pleasant-natured expression for a list of things you want to learn

Imagine you write down a list of things you want to learn. For example: speaking Spanish playing piano cooking sushi, etc. What name you would give such a list? German has a single word for it, which is "Lernwunsch". Directly translated into English it would be "learn wish", but this exp...

meaning word-request phrase-request

Wow, this one looks entirely different from what I saw the first time a couple of days ago!

Hat tip to our editors!

Anonymous

22:13

I was one of the close voters

Anonymous

And also one of the reopen voters

Damkerng T.

It didn't make any sense, at all, when I read it the first time.

Anonymous

> What is the difference of learn request, learn wish and learn desire? Thanks a lot ;-)

Anonymous

That was pretty much the title and the question. :-)

Damkerng T.

Learn request (Hmm...), Learn wish (HMM...), Learn desire (What?! Okay, I pass.)

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