@SirCumference I see nothing wrong here

@FakeMod Precisely, he's putting his workers at risk both health-wise and legal-wise. As if the law cares what he "asks"

Maybe it's right that he shouldn't put his employees at risk during the pandemic but after all, he supposedly cares about pushing humanity forward and knows there's no time to waste. I'm not saying he is right, I'm saying that his employees can wear masks and sanitize their hands and they can continue working under a protected environment.

where's the if?

His actions and tweets against lockdown are not justified and I agree that they may seem a bit childish, but in my opinion, the whole coronavirus thing is a bit exaggerated

@JingleBells In what way do you think it is exaggerated?

@JingleBells If "pushing humanity forward" requires callous disregard for human life, humanity should stay where it is, unpushed.

@B.Brekke I think people are making a pretty big deal out of it when it's not that big of a deal yet. On almost every major TV channel here in Bulgaria, they say the word coronavirus in every sentence.

@ACuriousMind Why?

@ACuriousMind I've never said that the goal is saving humanity.

@FakeMod Sure, it is dangerous, but people are making it more dangerous than it should be.

@JingleBells Because progress should be a means to an end (human flourishing), not an end in itself. What use is technology if we lose our morality on the way?

@FakeMod I will stay home and stay safe, okay, I get it, but why whenever I turn on the TV all I hear is about coronavirus, how dangerous it is... I wanna watch nice stuff, I wanna watch positive things, happy things, people are making it worse by trying to scare us even more and by constantly talking about the coronavirus. It's a psychological danger.

The moment the news stop talking about it people will think it's over when it's not. Just watch Netflix instead, it's fortunately not that hard to choose exactly the entertainment one wants these days

@FakeMod hmm, I agree

@ACuriousMind Correct.

@ACuriousMind Hmm, that's true. We only get to live one life, and for some people, their work is their purpose, and when suddenly a coronavirus pops up and they can't continue their work, they go a bit nuts.

I want to apologize and admit that I'm sometimes making contradictory opinions for the sake of arguing. I don't think Elon Musk's tweet is moral, I don't think we should risk lives in the name of technological progress (even though that has been done many times) and I don't think the coronavirus is exaggerated.

It's hard to argue when you yourself don't believe in your arguments xD

@FakeMod :--)

@FakeMod :<@#)$

@FakeMod ::(

like acm says...

sorry I'm not familiar with devil's advocate

interesting......

I'm so excited about AI, let's talk about that.

@FakeMod Yes, I know xDD

I'm on the opinion that it's pathetic to think you know what AI will do

Oh btw, that guy I sent an email telling him that his work is useless hasn't answered yet xDDDD

(or at least useless in the sense that it's fantasies that serve only for entertainment purposes)

@FakeMod he wouldn't

@FakeMod it's most likely he doesn't read his email and has some person doing it for him

Ray Kurzweil

or was he

I forgot

I think it was some other famous dude but I forgot his name

@ACuriousMind What do u think about AI?

@JingleBells I don't think about it often.

@ACuriousMind U seem like one of those people who like to live in the past, like communism and play retro games :D (no offense)

@FakeMod Isn't John Rennie our John Rennie?

When I do I mostly worry about how we'll figure out how to treat true machine intelligences, or how we're even going to reliably tell "intelligence" from a "mere" computer following instructions.

@FakeMod : Hi.

@ACuriousMind Those are interesting topics, we'll see how it goes. I'm really interested in AI and I'm planning to get into that field seriously (the way you are into physics)

@JingleBells I wouldn't like to live in the past. The present sucks, but the past sucked more. However, things are not bad just because they're old and not good just because they're new.

I need a help with my 3d printer, I'm using glass over the heated bed but the bed is curved and when I use clips to snap the glass with the bent heated bed, the glass takes the form of the bed (not sure about that)

@FakeMod Just like humans, you mean? ;P

@ACuriousMind Of course! I agree.

I think that I am unable to assign any probability to it being true or not.

The way I view humans is perceptive organs (eyes, ears...) receive input from the world and the state of the world determines what goes inside our brain. Cause and effect. For example, if I hadn't seen the green grass outside, I wouldn't have thought about the new photo I put up yesterday. I may think that I've come up with that thought, but it's the perception of the grass that triggered it.

When I say I can lift my hand voluntarily, it's because the discussion of AI has trigger a thought about free will in my brain which has triggered the foolish thought of attempting to prove my free will.

So yeah, I'm just a puppet of the environment.

@FakeMod me attempting to be an extrovert

@FakeMod sorry?

@FakeMod most people are a blend between the two, tilting on one side a bit more

@FakeMod sorry, I'm not sure what u're trynna say

I'm not sure if humans can accurately predict the causes of their actions and thoughts. That's some pretty deep introspection.

@FakeMod ur not alone :P

@JohnRennie Wassup

We're getting new Markdown engines in a few days.

See meta.stackexchange.com/a/348750/334566 for the schedule. Physics (main & meta) will get migrated on the 4th of June.

@JingleBells Good point. A system can map & analyse systems that are less complex than itself, but it gets tricky when you try to analyse systems that are of equal or greater complexity.

That's related to Gödel's incompleteness theorems, although human minds are not formal axiomatic systems, so you can't just mindlessly apply Gödel's theorems to them.

Regarding coronavirus, it's important to take it seriously, and to be careful to control its spread. Australia is culturally similar to the USA in many ways, although our population is about 8% of the USA's. OTOH, most of our population is urban, although admittedly our cities generally don't have the same population density of the big USA cities. Australia was very quick to adopt measures to limit the spread of coronavirus, and we've only had a small number of deaths.

USA population: 331 million, covid deaths: 106 thousand. Australia population: 25.5 million, covid deaths: 103.

@JohnRennie yes, I meant constant velocity.

I've read one of your comments "Im not sure..." @JingleBells and I add this, I hope don't disturb to you. I don't know if mine are just ramdom thoughts. A strange case was the year in which Carrington event happened, see as reference the Wikipedia Bernard Riemann and Charles Darwin, respectively, to know what scientific works were published by these authors (other author was Jules Vernes).

Other strange case, in my view/belief, is the discovery of gamma-ray bursts (I don't add my intepretation of how are related to Fermi Paradox and where I think is the Great Filter) and the exploration of our Solar System: see the Wikipedia Project Orion (nuclear propulsion), and why ended this project.

@FakeMod : Ha-ha.

@ZeroTheHero Terrible that people had to pay for such services before the internet was invented

:D

@ZeroTheHero : The abuse scene is cut out :(

this one will do if you want that bit: youtube.com/watch?v=DkQhK8O9Jik