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@SirCumference I guess the answer's going to depend on many things (eg what do you consider software dev - there's many specializations). I wouldn't be surprised if you were unable to get an interview at Big N if you didn't have CS/ML on your CV (be it as a minor or some projects to show interest in and some knowledge of the subjects).
 
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01:51
@RyanUnger There's a difference between taking a GR class and pestering a busy guy with random GR questions :P
02:13
@SirCumference you should have taken a GR course with him
02:27
@RyanUnger Oh interesting, just found out he teaches a mathematical physics GR course. That said I doubt I have the mathematical background to take that yet
Also I have no way of predicting when it's offered
02:40
does it have a webpage
@RyanUnger assuming we're talking about the same person, it'd be on his website
which you could get to from his department page
I found it
Have you taken courses on harmonic analysis and some basic graduate PDE sequence?
he links a paper in the 2018 course page
do you understand the first few pages?
@RyanUnger nope on harm. analysis. it only started being offered last year and overlapped with physics. also I need analysis ii before i can take graduate PDEs
oh...well the course he taught in 2018 is based on papers I'm reading right now
based on the questions you've asked me...maybe you need to wait
looking at other courses he's taught, the pre reqs are 631, 632, 633
having him for 633 would be a bummer because you have the number 2 guy in the world at your school for that subject
@RyanUnger 600 are grad courses, i.e. i don't have the prereqs most likely
sigh
02:52
well his introduction to GR covers 2 of the most important papers of the past decade
The closest thing I've done to GR is a manifolds class, which was a meme
i.e. its probably a bad introduction to GR
we didn't even define a manifold till the last day (lo and behold, half the final exam was about manifolds)
@RyanUnger well it used Spivak so yep
@RyanUnger it was a take-home tho
Still brutal
02:53
No I mean HL's GR course is probably a bad introduction
These topics courses are usually for the guy's PhD students
no one except for GR specialists care about this harmonic coordinates business
anyway you still have a year so you can ask to do a reading course with him
maybe with Carroll, he recommends it on his website
he's a nice guy and I have two good friends at your math dept if you need help
@RyanUnger what're their first names? I might know them
Letian
the second will be arriving as a post doc in the fall
Alex
well the second is very generic without a last name!
But you don't know him anyway
Nah don't know the first
He knows about you
Spooky
>_>
honestly i thought doing the so called "honors" math track would make me more capable in math. but it ended up restricting me from taking the classes relevant to physics
03:00
What, why
@RyanUnger Too specific in its requirements. So i gotta take things like galois theory, instead of having room for e.g. topology or dynamical systems
Galois theory is good to know
taking galois theory over topology though
oof
@RyanUnger If ya look at the honors requirements, it's a very specific set of courses from a larger pool
is galois theory "honors algebra"
I was kind of banking on having freedom to choose a 400 level course. But the only I could do was manifolds, all the others conflicted with physics or had requirements i didn't satisfy
@RyanUnger honors algebra ii, yep
03:04
my friend alex is teaching a basic course on manifolds next semester
but i think its graduate level
you should take it
we've been discussing his syllabus
Why do Galois theory if you want to do physics
@RyanUnger Is it just called diff geo?
@bolbteppa This.
I'm checking
Galois theory is something every educated person should know
You could probably argue out of it
@bolbteppa I actually tried, but they told me that the honors track makes sure I know the "fundamentals" and would broaden my knowledge
03:06
@RyanUnger do you even know what the symmetric group is with all those PDE's :p
Galois theory is pretty fundamental, you're not going to get out of it if you want a math degree from a top 25 program
Now that they don't make you take topology is a schande
@RyanUnger Well I'm hoping it finds use in mathematical physics
Galois theory is pretty much a waste of time and a real pain, like you definitely should have options to pick other courses than the waste of time that is Galois theory
Lol showing your true colors
@SirCumference Well, presumably they don't take the whole semester to do Galois theory. They'll probably also talk about modules.
That is definitely useful for mathematical physics.
It's cool to prove 5th degree polynomials have no roots by a formula like the quadratic formula, but if you want to do physics the amount of abstract algebra and number-theory related formalism they first set up is a real waste
03:10
@RyanUnger The math major requirements are very irritating. Many of the classes are inconsistently offered or occupy popular time slots. Most of the classes are only offered in the fall, which was a nightmare to combine with my rigid physics schedule
Sounds like doing physics was a mistake.
@RyanUnger Modules were in algebra i. i did it two years ago, but I remember the ideas somewhat well
You should be a mathematician and learn some physics as a hobby.
@SirCumference I doubt you talked about projective/injective modules, Nakayama's lemma, etc.
Modules are the ring analogue of invariant subspaces
@RyanUnger math is beautiful but physics is mindboggling. knowing that things like time dilation, wavelike nature of particles, black holes trillions of times larger than us, etc. exist draws me slightly closer to physics
03:13
I'm a mathematician and I know all of that stuff.
yeah but i'm hoping to discover other surprising aspects of the universe as a career :P
@RyanUnger what's a projective module
A direct summand of a free module
I'm wondering why th probability theory and statistical theory are tossed into the Applied Math department instead of the Math department
the fact that they are called "theory" means they're not applied
@SirCumference what
03:17
@RyanUnger What separates probability theory from other "pure math" topics
Economists do it
@bolbteppa they don't go deep into the theory
They really do tbh
it's like saying diff geo is applied math because physicists use it for GR
actually PDEs would be a better example
so will you talk to the guy
ask to do a reading course
go with Carroll or even Wald
you probably know enough math for Wald
03:21
@RyanUnger I'm pretty sure the only reading courses we have here are taught by grad students
wot
I think you can just ask anyone
the "directed reading program"
well then he might direct you to one of his students
honestly tho between the math and physics courses I'm already taking I doubt i could focus on another topic in the semester
@RyanUnger I was more aggravated at missing out on dynamical systems really
That shows up everywhere in physics
does it really
the people who do dynamical systems talk about stuff I've never heard used elsewhere
03:27
@RyanUnger Well it's used in stat phys and cosmology
also plenty in analytical mechanics
It shows up when you study more applied physics stuff
cosmology and analytical mechanics aren't applied :P
Like solving systems with loads of variables etc
 
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Q: Can we report moderators for abuse of power?

WoodDoes this site have any protection against abuse of power by moderators? Is there a way we can report their misconducts? For example, for maliciously deleting comments.

06:10
How can you even use a computer and not discover the Insert key at some stage... From the HNQ: superuser.com/q/1457030
@SirCumference I literally wrote a single application and got a job, but I suspect that is rather unusual :P
06:31
@SirCumference clever people are in demand everywhere. You shouldn't underestimate how eager companies are to recruit clever people and what a small fraction of all applicants they make up.
06:43
@JohnRennie don't lie
@Slereah I get the impression your heart isn't really in the job because you still would like to return to academia if the opportunity arose. I suspect if you abandoned all hope and put your heart into pursuing a career in business you'd have no problems. Have you considered applying to SAP? I hear they want COBOL programmers :-)
Programming is boring tho :V
Especially modern day programming
07:03
I think it depends on the job. ACM's job seems to be more analysis than coding and I suspect that's more fun.
I suspect web site design (your current job?) is at the boring end of the spectrum, unless I guess if you're working for a startup trying to do something new with a web interface.
I know a few guys working in web design in the UK and it seems to involve a lot of copying and pasting huge amounts of Javascript, which isn't my idea of fun.
07:22
I'm doing AI business
Also boring
Most AI these days is just using existing libraries
Most of which are poorly documented
07:53
@JohnRennie do you think doing a masters will convince said companies im a clever person
@JakeRose it depends on the industry. In IT I doubt it matters.
In industrial research (where I worked) you generally need a PhD to be taken seriously.
I just still don’t know what I want to do with life really
I thought research but I’m feeling less convinced by it as of late
I’d still like a phd though
What you enjoy most you'll do best. As long as the PhD is more fun than hassle I'd stick with the PhD. While I enjoyed my job in industrial research it didn't have anything like the freedom I enjoyed doing my PhD.
But if you wake up one morning and realise don't want to go into the lab that's a good time to seriously consider if you're doing the right thing.
easy to say when what you do will get you a job easily :p
People want toothpaste but they don't want any new spacetimes
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@JohnRennie I never want to go in the lab unless it’s quite independent. Even so I consider myself more a theoretician
I just don’t even know what I enjoy
Anything that becomes ‘work’ I lack enjoyment for
I really need a book on this type of thing, see if anybody else has had similar issues
08:08
I meant lab to mean where you go to work, not necessarily an actual experimental lab. In your case I guess it would mean the desk assigned to you in your department.
I would try chatting to as many people as you can about their research, bith in your department and from other institutions. Ideally in the bar after a few (or lots) of drinks when everyone is relaxed. If everyone's work strikes you as boring then maybe that's time to reconsider.
bitch in your department?
That's a verb not a noun, yes? :-)
@JohnRennie Tbh I'm not sure how employers test for cleverness, but I assume degrees can at least show experience/knowledge in the subject
Welp I suppose I'll continue what I've been doing
It varies
some companies have a test for you to take
@Slereah I'd imagine ones that involved would be big companies like Google. Though alarge brought up a fair point that those companies would probably look for qualifications too
08:22
@SirCumference yes, if you have a degree, masters or PhD in a hard subject like physics or maths most employers will consider that a good sign that you're probably both clever and hard working.
Well in my case I'm past the point of getting a CS bachelor's on time. But in the U.S. we have a degree called a minor, which is an extra token I could put on my resume. In this case it'd point out to employers that I took a 6-class CS curriculum
Not sure if it's worth taking a bunch of courses I might never make use of, e.g. Intro Algorithms, etc.
08:37
@SirCumference Well if you ever do end up applying for a software engineering job, the typical entry level interview is about intro algorithms, so it's not a waste of time
08:48
@alarge Er, right
Well there's ones like automata theory
I don't know which are useful honestly, just not sure whether it's worth taking six
09:05
Is it me or are almost every elastic collision proof for the 1D case
2D at best
what madness is this
 
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10:18
Scale and (non relativistic) motion can distort our estimation of the duration of time, as well intense emotions, despite it does not actually slow down time
a person falling from from a 30 m tower cannot read a flickering watch the switch every 1/20 s, yet felt the fall is much longer
number of pulses may measure a duration, thus more frequent pulses may be registered by the brain as a longer duration
Of course, the question on the nature of time is far from solved
@skullpetrol Actually, if that is true, then there should be a internet heat death of trolls, but it does not seemed to occur yet
10:34
Ah, that CTC paper assumes elastic collisions as pure momentum exchange
A fine idea for well-defined Cauchy problem
11:23
Sup
another day closer to the grave
So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again.
The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older,
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.
Can't wait
I've always really liked the writing of that song (I'm sure that's not an unpopular opinion)
11:27
guys, velocity and speed are being used interchangeably right?
@Luyw no.
well no, speed is being used as the magnitude of velocity
In the first part the magnitude of the velocity is being related to the angular velocity and radial distance. The velocity is continually changing because the direction changes, but the magnitude, i.e. the speed, is constant.
In the second part the velocity is being related to the angular velocity and the position vector by $\mathbf v = \omega \times \mathbf r$.
In this case the velocity is changing with time because the position vector $\mathbf r$ is changing with time.
yes thank you, i have understood that
i think i might've found it weird that the speed is the magnitude of the velocity
but it is that actually
i disassociated the concepts for some reason
can we always say that $s = \lim_{\Delta t \to 0} |\Delta v|$
I am imagining a curve like a mountain but not spiky, $\Delta v$ seems to me to be always smaller than $s$
What is $s$?
The speed?
11:39
the distance along trajectory
not displacement, "perimeter" if you wish
The distance measured along the trajectory is always just $s = \int |\mathbf v| dt$
i made a mistake, i'll edit
oh i can't
The displacement is more complicated because it's a vector addition of $d\mathbf r = \mathbf v dt$ ...
$\Delta r$ instead of $\Delta v$
@Luyw yes, $ds = \lim_{\Delta t \to 0} |\Delta r|$
11:45
thank you!
@JohnRennie 👀
Are you being a math snob again
@RyanUnger isn't that obvious to the point of being trivial? If $d \mathbf r = \mathbf r_2 - \mathbf r_1$ then in the limit of $d\mathbf r \to 0$ the magnitude of $d\mathbf r$ is going to be the same as the integral along the curve from the two positions.
I think he's sneering at using infinitesimals
@Slereah that's OK, we're physicists. If mathematicians were surgeons we'd be the butchers :-)
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11:50
@JohnRennie Would that make us engineers like a pet food factory?
@JMac I suspect from the vaunted heights of pure mathematics physicists and engineers look indistinguishable :-)
Not true
Engineers are at least useful
I thought I liked math, until I realized I just liked the simple math and that actual math was something I really didn't like
@JMac cf Sam’s image
11:53
@RyanUnger hey, I helped develop better toothpastes. That's useful.
I wouldn’t describe you as a physicist
Colloid science is one of those borderline disciplines. We call ourselves physicists when we want to appear posh.
If you describe yourself as a chemist people ask whether you work at Boots.
But you can't hide your thick cockney accent
12:18
Hello one and all! Has anyone ever derived the Einstein-Infeld-Hoffmann equations?
One of the first things I did out of the womb
I'm trying to derive it using the Damour Soffel Xu formalism? @RyanUnger Have you done this? I can't seem to get two terms correct and it's frustrating
Not sure about that formalism specifically. Are you looking at a paper?
Sure I will upload the paper
O you can only upload images here
The paper is here
So the authors so it is simply a task of substituting Eqs. (7.19b) and (7.14) into Eq. (7.17) and voila you arrive at the EIH equations. I understand the process but I can't seem to make it work and maybe there is a sleight of hand I am missing?
12:51
I’ll keep trying because I almost have it! Any help would would be appreciated though!
13:29
HELLO
Wops
Pardon the capitrals
I hope there's somebody Lieb Liniger model savvy in here -- Simple conceptual question:
Suppose one is in the ground state, and now one goes to the excited state
In the ground state the set of quantum numbers is described by a sequence $\xi_j = 1/L (j-(N+1)/2)$, with $j$ some index $\xi$ the quantum number over system length $L$ and $N$ the number of particles. So now suppose we have an excited state
In the excited state we choose to remove a subset of what the above relation generates for $1<j<N$, so far so good
The associated rapidities to me appear well defined in the ground state case
Now in the excited state, we may choose to replace a few of those quantum numbers with other quantum numbers, suppose we choose them all to be on the right side of the right "Fermi point"
Where the Fermi point is essentially the last quantum number on the line as seen from the left
Again so far all is clear
Now the way I always did calculations is by considering a couple of sets of quantum numbers and associated sets of rapidities
And for definiteness I just consider a left to right ordering, so the first particle to the right side of the Fermi point also corresponds to the first hole as seen from the left Fermi point in the Fermi sea
So I have a few coinciding normalised quantum numbers $\xi$, call them $\xi^0$, and I guess a few numbers that are holes in the excited state so $\xi^-$, and particles $\xi^+$
This all seems clear I guess, and we may associate say, rapidities in the GS as $\lambda^0$, $\lambda^-$ etc., but we don't have $\mu^-$. These don't have a corresponding quantum number since it's absent from the set $\xi$ for the excited state
Now I found a paper that seems to use this rapidity anyway, how can that be?
What is the rapidity at the hole in the excited state? It's zero I would argue?
And similarly I found a paper that has $\lambda^+$, but there is no notion of that additional particle in the ground state
I suppose I could extend the set $\{\xi^0\}$ to have cardinality $N+n$ with $n$ the number of excitations in the chosen excited state configuration
But this all seems rather moot
14:06
chat session upcoming
Let's all look presentable
14:17
is this true?
that's a spring
🤔
@Luyw Is what true? I see scribbles and "half point"?
about the elongation
of the midpoint being half the elongated size of the spring
@Luyw What about the elongation...? I really can't make that out
14:42
if I elongate a spring by a length $x$, would the middle point move by $x/2$?
14:57
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Q: Why is this question not considered an off-topic homework problem?

Aaron StevensThis question currently has a bounty on it and is receiving a lot of attention. But to me it looks like a question that is normally closed for being off-topic. The question reads like a homework problem, and there appears to be little effort from the OP other than stating a method they tried to u...

@Luyw The middle would move half as much as the end, assuming a uniform spring. The way I think of it is to break it down into two springs in parallel with an equivalent spring constant.
@Luyw yes
so each point $i$ of the spring experiences a force $F_i=kx_i$ right?
15:21
@Luyw every point of the spring experiences zero force. That is, the rest of the spring pulls with equal force in both directions.
yes I understand that at equilibrium there's no force, I meant the strain produced by the operator at each point is $kx_i$
@Luyw Yes
thank you
another question though
Yes ... ?
how is it that we know that the middle point will be moved $x/2$?
with $x$ being the total elongation of course
and I guess any point at $l_0/n$ will be moved by $x/n$
15:25
Suppose you divide the spring into two equal springs joined together. Then the extension of those two springs has to be half the extension of the whole spring.
are you talking about a spring which is not bound at an end?
@Luyw No, I mean if you have a 1m spring being pulled at each end you can imagine it as 2 identical 0.5m springs joined together. Since the two springs are identical they must have equal extensions. So the total extension of the 1m spring is twice the extension of each 0.5m spring.
@Luyw Think of it this way. The end you move travels a distance x. The fixed end doesn't move at all. You could then argue that points closer to your end should move farther than points near the fixed end. But what about the middle point? Well, it should move x/2, half way between moving x and not moving at all
yes i got that actually, before asking, i just can't reason other points moving by a fraction linked to their position
don't get me wrong, it feels intuitive
but i can't reason it in someway, like why would it
15:42
@Luyw Do you at least understand why each part of the spring must move a different amount (not even thinking about if it is in proportion to their position yet)?
yes
@Luyw Ok good. Now, imagine what would happen if it wasn't in proportion to their position. What would happen to the linear density of the spring?
isn't that just us idealising the situation?
oh wait, the spring constant is the same everywhere I guess so it should remain a "uniform" spring
ok i get you
@Luyw Are you not assuming an ideal spring? If you are assuming a non-ideal spring then you should specify what type of spring you are using
@Luyw Right :) If the parts didn't move in proportion to the position then you would have a non-uniform spring.
ok it is clearer to me now
thank you :)
oh and when we cut the spring in half for example, does the elastic force become half the original at each end since we obtain a spring with half the original elongation? or are there other factors that change?
15:51
@Luyw It's twice as stiff.
forces stay the same
you mean $k$? so the force remains constant?
:o
@Luyw Yup, a longer spring of the same shape will be less stfiff
@Luyw you are probably used to the spring equation in the form $F = kx$ where $x$ is the extension and $k$ is the force constant of the spring.
yes
But in this form the constant $k$ is different for different length springs made from the same material.
A form of the equation that makes it clearer what is happening is:
$$ F = \frac{K}{\ell_0} x $$
where $\ell_0$ is the original, unstretched, length of the spring and $K$ is a constant that depends only on the material the spring is made from.
15:56
I still have to read further in the book, hope it'll be covered
thank you
chat session?
That is, if I have springs made from the same wire curled in the same way the equation above give me the force for a spring of any length $\ell_0$ that I choose to make.
And from this you can see immediately that if you halve the length of the spring you double the force constant because $K/\ell_0$ changes to $K/(\ell_0/2) = 2K/\ell_0$.
16:09
My first time to attend a "chat session". How does it work?
@OneMug the chat sessions have rather fallen into disuse I'm afraid.
When the Physics SE was new we had problems getting people to discuss physics in this chat room so we set up a scheduled event to try and get people to join the room.
@SirCumference I looked it up and GR is a third year course at Princeton
Using Hartle and Schutz (vomit)
But these days the room is pretty active and people chat about physics all the time, so having an hour set aside for physics chats has become redundant. One day we probably ought to remove the chat session from the diary, but we've never got round to it.
Actually the room is a bit quiet at the moment, but I suspect that's just because it's summer and lots of the regulars are either on holiday or perhaps prefer sitting in the sun drinking beer to sitting at their computers chatting :-)
drinking beer at 12 oclock?
@RyanUnger it's 17:00 and a pleasantly warm, if slightly overcast, summer afternoon here in God's own country. Though I have to confess I'm drinking lemonade not beer.
16:18
@JohnRennie and @Luyw your discussion of springs has been interesting. The question about what happens to the spring constant of a hookian spring when it is cut in half seems to be very difficult to assimilate. Is there a good way to explain this using the elastic properties of the material to determine what $K$ would be for any specific material and geometry (wire diameter, helicity pitch, etc)?
@ACuriousMind so I thought Verlinde was teaching QFT in the fall but it's his identical twin brother! Apparently they're both professors at Princeton. Talk about an overachieving family...
@OneMug $K$ depends on the shear modulus of the material making up the wire and the diameter of the spring and the number of turns per unit length. And probably the phase of the moon and which way the wind is blowing.
The equation for linking them all together to give the value of $K$ is too complicated for me to remember.
Actually I think there's a question on the main site about it ...
@OneMug There are definitely good relationships. I can't remember the exact book; but my Machine Component Design textbook had a really good rundown of the equation and all the values in it. It's not that bad either
@JohnRennie especially the moon and winds
@JohnRennie I just take the phase of the moon to be at $0$ and measure all other phases relative to that
16:22
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Q: Equation for calculating spring costant

CerinI'd like to design some of my own springs in order to obtain some very specific forces for a project. There are plenty of guides on how to make an arbitrary spring, but none I've read explain how to make one in such a way as to obtain a specific spring constant. Given specifications, like the ma...

@JMac let me Google "Machine Component Design" and see if I can afford it on my social security.
$$ k = \frac{F}{\Delta L} \approx \frac{\pi^3 N^3 d^4 D\, G}{4 \left(L^2 + \pi^2 N^2 D^2\right)^2} = \frac{\pi^3 N^3 d^4 D\, G}{4\,l^4}. $$
Eek! :-)
One of my favourite exam questions was "Give approximate dimensions for a spring in the hand-pump of a soap dispenser." or something that worked out to that
without any additional information
I also just always found springs to be cool as hell for some reason. The way that by turning a long bar into a helix, you can load the bar with pure twisting, but have it result in pure linear movement with approximately linear resistance
@JohnRennie I heard that! Eek! for sure!
@JMac I like trying to use the springs salvaged from the ball of some ball point pens, and those in the valve of some butane lighters. Difficult to get, and even more difficult to 'characterize'.
ballpoint springs at least are still the straightforward kind. Single size wire wound at the same diameter. It gets really bad when you start to have hourglass shaped springs and stuff
16:33
@JMac exactly. Needs some really good materials software, no analytic solutions there!
@OneMug I'm pretty sure you could do it analytically actually. It would be messier than the generic coil spring, but I think it's still well within the realm of analytics. The ideal coil spring is actually a pretty straightforward case IMO once you've studied mechanics of materials for a few years
@JMac I think I can afford that book. Found it on archive.org (I think). Is this the one:[link Machine Component Design] (archive.org/details/…)?
@JMac I find materials fascinating, loved it when I got to attend my wife's materials class lab when she was working on BS in EE. I've several material problems I'm trying to address right now, and not getting very far.
@OneMug Yes, Machine Component design by Juvinall and Marshek is the one I used. It's a really great book for explaining things about machine components and just mechanics of materials in general. That said, I think it expects you you have a basic understanding of mechanics of materials (I believe we took an introductory course in mechanics of materials before we tackled this one)
@JMac I'm afraid that my mechanics of materials background is a bit outdated. The last formal course I had in that area was almost 50 years ago, and seldom used since I'm sorry to say!
@OneMug That honestly might even be enough if you remember stress/strain well enough. I can't quite remember how much handholding that book does. All I remember is that it was filled to the brim with stuff I found interesting.
The first half of the book is broadly applying concepts to materials to understand generic behaviours, the second half is chapters based on specific machine design compontents (springs, gears, belts, etc.). Definitely one of my two most useful textbooks in university
@JohnRennie Stop being so obsequious
:P
16:51
@Wood you just don't get it, do you? The point of my third paragraph is that this site works because people are nice to each other. We all try to get along. Yet you feel it appropriate to accuse me of being obsequious. — John Rennie 2 mins ago
@RyanUnger So how am I supposed to know which Verlinde you mean in that statement? :D
This guy!
@JMac Well, I've had to some internet search/read/ponder lately, and those topics are not gone, just somewhat rusty! One of the current areas I'm dealing with would best be described as a nanoparticle gas under extreme pressure. Is there anything on PSE in that area (I haven't found any yet myself)?
@ACuriousMind I meant the famous one initially!
One of them has a longer wikipedia page than the other
16:55
Maybe they're both famous but everyone thinks there's only one of them!
@JohnRennie I really don't know what is goal is. Just comes in assuming everyone who is giving the moderators the benefit of the doubt (for something that OP wont even share with us, because supposedly specifics don't matter) is expecting some sort of special treatment from the moderators. I like how he just completely ignores any idea that it was done in good faith, even if it was a mistake.
@ACuriousMind that's a good way to write twice as many papers as everyone else
they're apparently identical twins...maybe it's all a lie
@JMac that's the trouble with the question. As a purely hypothetical question about the checks and balances on moderators it has some merit, though it's answered by the links I posted. But the OP clearly implies in his comments that he/she/it has a specific grievance.
Actually his brother seems to have left
very suspicious
Maybe he never had a twin
it's all a scam
@JohnRennie What seems especially troubling is that they are requesting that you remove the paragraph which has the most useful advice based on OP's behaviour.
> On the contrary, usually a paid employee of the Stack Exchange network is more trustworthy than an anonymous community-elected moderator.
Wow. That's insulting.
Ah apparently Erik has been in Europe for 15 years now haha
My info is old
@JMac yes, and they are apparently completely unaware of the incongruity.
I shall decline to remove that paragraph :-)
If I write an answer saying "Moderators hold grudges and are out to get people who step on their toes. All you can do is try to avoid stirring up trouble, and suck up to them, and hopefully your posts will not be deleted." I wonder if he would accept it
Also I wonder how quickly I could get a minus double digit score
17:03
::raises eyebrow::
👀 do they hold grudges
In both general relativity and the Physics Stack Exchange a situation can look very different from different choices of your coordinate system.
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@ACuriousMind Oh please humble moderator, forgive me for my harsh words. I have sinned against your institution and humbly beg forgiveness. Please do not banish my comments to the eternal pits of chat.
Because I sucked up, I get a free pass now, right?
I shall have to bring your case in front of the Council for judgement
wtf where was this council when I was sent to the cage
I would have sucked up
17:10
I'm seriously still trying to figure out what special treatment moderators could realistically give... Not deleting your useless comment threads? Letting you answer homework directly? Cursing people out? I'm really struggling to come up with actual advantages
On a more serious note, the 10k moderator tools don't open up any more voting queues, do they?
@JMac nope
just analytics tools
Okay cool
17:39
@JMac Thanks for the reference suggestion, BTW. I'll be studying it.
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@JMac Re this: what does your UI look like if you try to cast a close vote on a bountied question?
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17:55
@JMac Okay, thanks. Can you try to cast a "should be closed" flag, from the flag menu?
@rob Won't work, close "flags" just become votes for users with >3k
@rob Same error, because of what ACM just typed before I had to
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@JMac Okay.
A useful Meta.SE proposal would be to edit that message, encouraging users to raise custom moderator flags if they think a bountied question should be closed.
18:52
Hi, I've asked this once:
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/439954/what-is-the-minimum-time-required-to-travel-1-light-year-from-earth-and-turn-bac

I don't have a math background and I could not understand Mr John Rennie's answer for https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/109776/how-long-would-it-take-me-to-travel-to-a-distant-star

I'm not trying to trick time or anyone. All I want is to understand. What I'm trying to ask is this: We have a watch on Earth (wEarth) and another watch on a spaceship (wShip). Spaceship accelerates to a speed near to c and makes a trip and comes
I hope somebody hears me, and this is not a very stupid question, and it is OK to ask it here...
@Koray Yes, the closer the velocity the ship moves with is to the speed of light, the closer the time passed for it will be to zero, and the closer the time passed on earth will be to 2 years.
But "1 year passed" on earth is not a possible result - the 2 years for the time on earth are a lower bound, since nothing can cover 2 light years in less than 2 years.
19:16
Thank you very much ACuriousMind.. "1 year to 10 sec" was just an example to show you that I'm not that ignorant, that I have a little understanding that the time is not absolute but relative :) Not for a trip of 1 light year go-and come back, just an example :) Thank you again..
Didn't we have something like this a couple of weeks ago? physics.stackexchange.com/q/490697/123208
@PM2Ring The user just re-posted their closed (and deleted) question.
@ACuriousMind Just as I suspected. ;)
I guess that's better than creating a new account to re-post it.
I'm sorry if I understood you wrong.. My English is not good. I have no relation with the question or the person in physics.stackexchange.com/questions/490697/… (I have no idea what he is asking..) Thank you for your time.. Have a good night..
@Koray Sorry, I wasn't talking to you, or about you.
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