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19:08
@CooperCape You didn't get "unbanned", the automatic suspension just ran out. If you insist on making jokes of that type, the next one will be longer.
hey weirdo geometry types
anyone with any experience on hopfions here?
Hi, everybody.
I am grumpy because my best answer ever has recently received two downvotes. I seek psychological compensation from you all.
Let the soothing comments begin!
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@DanielSank rep doesn't matter. Internet points are imaginary points
19:23
@DanielSank link?
@peterh, quick note
Also you have a close/reopen vote about your own questions. Click "reopen". — peterh 6 hours ago
this is inaccurate, you need 3k+ to be able to do that
@EmilioPisanty I think that OPs can vote to reopen their own question at lower rep, at least the timeline shows a reopen vote by OP there. Don't ask me why, though :P
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@DanielSank lol who cares you work at google :)
@ACuriousMind whut
@EmilioPisanty I didn't realize that either, but that's what the mod timeline shows me
@ACuriousMind that's bizarre
19:26
@vzn But, but... internet points!
@DanielSank it's fake internet points
which is, of course, what makes them so important
@ACuriousMind you didn't ever comment on my ACM meme
it made it for you :'(
@EmilioPisanty here
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@DanielSank oh right that changes everything ps did you ever see internship? wondering how accurate it is from your pov :) imdb.com/title/tt2234155
why r u ghosting
19:27
@vzn Nah, didn't see it.
@DanielSank haters gon' hate
@EmilioPisanty Wait a second... are there real internet points?!
@EmilioPisanty Yup.
i.e. let it slide
@DanielSank Yes. They didn't tell you?
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@DanielSank oh well seen anything lately? liked blade runner myself, just bought the paperback by philip k dick at supermarket, marvelling that scifi can still be bought there on rare occasion...
@vzn I really didn't much care for the original Blade Runner and didn't see the recent one.
19:28
When John Oliver or Zack Weinersmith promise internet points to whoever does X, it's actually for real
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@DanielSank wow, might have to revoke your geek badge, why didnt you like it?
@vzn Uh, lack of compelling story and/or character development.
@DanielSank I'll have to agree with vzn there about the geek badge
I like sci-fi, but I need a story and characters.
I never had a geek badge...
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@EmilioPisanty if you want to keep/ renew yours you have to go see the new one :P
19:29
@DanielSank so, protagonist being a robot turned you off, then?
I don't categorically love all sci-fi.
@EmilioPisanty Nope, just general lack of interesting plot, etc.
@vzn you mean, see it twice?
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@DanielSank lol yeah right
@vzn ~sigh~
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@EmilioPisanty ok, so you saw it, whatd you think? luved the vegas scenery myself, awesome
19:30
For example, I like Star Trek, but not all of it. I really like DS9, but TNG is kinda meh.
I quite liked it
Let me rephrase, TNG has a lot of excellent episodes, but it also has a lot of meh ones.
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@EmilioPisanty yeah me too think its a (massive) pity it didnt catch on at box office :(
The recent Ghost in the Shell remake was terrible.
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@DanielSank oh geez, cmon, argh it had scarlett johansson (who is not asian), what else can you ask for? :P
19:33
@vzn Plot?
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@DanielSank so demanding :(
^
@dmckee we are discussing the merits of various sci-fi films.
I posit that plot matters.
vzn counters that attractive actors/actresses are all we need.
Your thoughts, sir.
@DanielSank if I can correctly penetrate @vzn's cryptic writing (never a given), that may be in irony
or maybe not?
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did not actually say/ admit that, out loud :P
who knows
19:35
If attractiveness was the only thing that matter you could watch reality TV. You must have a story, it has to be a descent one, and the story telling must be good.
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wow, cryptic, nicest thing anyone said about me today, maybe this week :)
@dmckee all stories must be descent ones?
man, you've got some pessimistic views on fiction
Plus realiity violation must be part of the setting or convincing or minor.
Noun: hopfion (plural hopfions)
  1. (mathematics) A knot in a three-dimensional continuous unit vector field that cannot be unknotted without cutting...
@EmilioPisanty ::chuckles:: Can't spell or type.
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19:37
@dmckee lol actually do not mind some reality tv, although cough on most of it... all the reality actors are grade B. but not entirely terrible.
how come wiktionary has a page on hopfions but wikipedia doesn't?
But I actually prefer depressing plots, because unambiguously happy ending make me depressed.
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@EmilioPisanty ps if we have 1 )( thing in common maybe we can enlarge on that common ground :P
@vzn I have nothing against you, mate
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@EmilioPisanty except all our chat history o_O :P
19:39
I find several things you do to be very annoying, but I have nothing against you personally
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lol thx for the ringing endorsement
@DanielSank what is real
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ps feeling is mutual, so yeah, maybe more common ground :) :P
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@dmckee One actor once said, "a movie isn't complete unless it has a happy ending"
@Sid WEel, that's one point of view.
19:46
> Hopfions can be constructed as twisted closed baby Skyrmion strings by joining the tops and bottoms of twisted baby Skyrmion strings
ah, yes, of course, that makes it crystal clear
¬¬
@goodnight Wasn't... technically a joke. But, nevermind - apologies if I caused offence.. I'll be good boy.
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@CooperCape You never told about your friend again?
Is he still being a nuisance?
@Sid Oh him. Yeah he's kinda still being a bit of a jackass but... whatevs. Kinda taken an 'ignore his s***' kinda pov right now. My gf didn't have a clue what he was on about anyway - I think it should be fine.
@dmckee o_O
@goodnight baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me, no more. WHAT IS REAL? Baby don't hurt me...
20:06
@EmilioPisanty From 300 or 350 rep, also the OP has a vote in close/reopen matters about his own question.
@EmilioPisanty 3k is required only for the close/reopen voting to the questions of others.
@peterh a'ight
Hm. Question. When creating mass from energy, do you have to also add the energy to account for potential energy created, or is that naturally accounted for? That is, comparing three experimental arrangements in an ideal universe - one firing a laser at gold foil on the ground, one firing a laser at gold foil on a space station, and one firing a laser from the ground into space at gold foil.
A and B are obviously equivalent because you have to carry the fuel/energy up into space in the first place; C, however, doesn't seem equivalent, as the electron and positrons created would have a different potential energy out of the same creation energy.
I had the rules wrong
'pologies
@EmilioPisanty No prob :-)
Or does it balance out because the potential energy of the positron has the opposite sign of the energy of the electron?
20:48
What’s going on
Chat whole again?
wholesome
@0celo7 nothing don't worry about it
keep mining scv
@Adirian Potential energies are associated with interactions. There is only one potential energy for the interaction between the pair (and it's negative).
It is unfortunate that the language we've historically used for intro mechancis obsfucates this subtle but important point.
@goodnight what?
21:12
@0celo7 you scared me
Boo.
It's big bad coopercape
Actually who was it that shared that big bad bolzano weierstrauss theorem or something that was dope
Not that I understood any of it
"$\varepsilon$-Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Bolzano-Weierstrass Theorem"
A classic
if you think you can cover up your sins with analysis you're wrong.
Now I'm scared cause I don't know enough to understand if that's a pun or not.
@ACuriousMind do you want to moderate the discord h bar? It’s pretty cancerous
O wow there's an h bar discord
Mad
21:39
@CooperCape invite only cool ppl only non-racists only
@goodnight You know my username not my story
real heroes don't wear capes
I am a cape
I am the garment of the fakes
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@goodnight so whered you get all your meme talent anyway? :)
Well apparently he's cool and not a racist so seems like a good basis for safe wholesome memes
21:48
@vzn i'd tell you but if i did i'd have to end you
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yikes, bummer o_O
don't worry I didn't forget you
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?
Actually I just realised can I just put it out there I'm not a racist...
@CooperCape you're thinking aloud
but ya that's a good idea
22:02
Cool glad we're on the same page
hmmm
Hello everybody
Running my neural net for like 100 hours to see how it does
Ooh exciting
Oddly it is overfitting harder on 1.2m training examples than it did on only 20k training examples...makes no sense lol
22:06
Not quite sure what that means but I'm sure you'll figure whatever it is out...
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@enumaris heard about your ML work. very interesting! are you a student? wondering what problem youre currently crunching on
overfitting is like when the neural net learns to memorize the data...at that point it does really good on the training data, but it won't generalize to data that it hasn't seen.
Theoretically, a lot more data should mean better generalization and less overfitting...but...it doesn't appear to be the case for me...
odd
My ML work is purely for myself haha
It's a side-project I'm workin on
while I search for a job so I don't turn into a hobo...
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cool, do you have a degree?
I do have a degree, but it's in physics lol
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nice, from US?
22:12
yeah
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@enumaris did you do any programming as undergrad?
@enumaris hi
not really as an undergrad
I did do programming for my PhD thesis tho
but it wasn't ML
@enumaris What was your thesis on?
neutrino flavor/spin evolution in supernovae and binary neutron star mergers
22:15
Ah, you're a physicist
Yuck
:P
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@enumaris phd! o_O cool! online thesis? btw have you heard of this? we are always looking for knowledgable volunteers physics.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7783/…
the thesis should be on proquest
but I doubt anyone will bother reading it lol
@enumaris Link?
uh...I never bothered to search for it lol
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22:19
uh, a sort of buddhist-like nonattachment?
XD
Yeah I don't have any attachment to my PhD thesis
@vzn me
it's done, it's out there, good enough for me
where do I sign up
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@goodnight lol uh, will consider it if youre serious (thx for interest)
22:22
yes I am
the title will be
"I'm an autistic 19 year old taking QFT for the 3rd time AMA"
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@goodnight joking? serious?
why not both?
trying to keep it real
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3 hours ago, by DanielSank
@goodnight baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me, no more. WHAT IS REAL? Baby don't hurt me...
same
btw that's a replytothismessageception
is that a first
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@enumaris if only you had more attachment than goodnight o_O
22:27
lol
I already know what my Ph.D thesis is going to be on
I've checked everything I can think of to check...I don't see any problems.
"Quantum @Phase transitions, a documentary on the sex life of"
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@enumaris what data/ problem are you working on?
music data
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22:28
@goodnight funny but not sure its sustainable for 60m? :P
@enumaris is the problem posted online?
no, it's my own thing lol
I'm really surprised at this 1mill data points leads to worse overfitting then 20k data points thing...
that's so weird lol
esp since I implemented batch norm on this new architecture...and batch norm should have a slight regularizing effect as well
baffling
@vzn my johnson isn't quite 60m long
@vzn you're off by 15 orders of magnitude
up to you to decide which direction
@Phase ::ahem::
Happy?
Please stop this annoying commentary whenever someone gets kicked, it's neither constructive nor funny.
@ACuriousMind What?
@ACuriousMind sorrey p:
shall we break the ice
@BernardoMeurer That wasn't directed at you :P
@goodnight IS breaking the ice something good for someone once named Ice Lord? :P
@ACuriousMind Whenever you get angry I just assume it's at me
God, you're like my mother
22:45
@ACuriousMind is a 9-5 job something good for someone named ACuriousMind?
Ouch
Damn
@goodnight Too much
it hurts me every time you act like you don't care.
@goodnight I have flexible working hours and I don't see why that's bad :P
@goodnight Uff, get rekd
@ACuriousMind Did you sign your death contract yet?
@ACuriousMind are you flexing your work schedule in the chat?
22:48
@BernardoMeurer Talked to HR today, they're gonna send it to me next week
welp...probably need another 100 hours to training time before the model converges
@ACuriousMind Nice!
we'll see what happens then lol
Does this mean you'll get me a Christmas gift this year???
Now that you have a job and so on
@ACuriousMind I like to believe that ACM goes to human resources for different reasons than most people.
22:49
@BernardoMeurer I only start in January :P
@ACuriousMind Dangit
Next year then?
He's gonna buy you windows
@enumaris Don't even
22:49
just wait XD
@enumaris Brilliant idea!
No
Get me a book
Goddammit
"Windows for Dummies"
Dude I would flip
I would no joke take a dump on it
and leave it at my neighbor's door
@BernardoMeurer top 5 anime betrayals
who's your god now
22:52
Lol
what
Currently I'm using a conv-net to gather representations of data...I could switch to a recurrent net...but dunno how that would train...hmmm
Is it bad that I love this unironically
@BernardoMeurer Imo... uhmm. yes.
@BernardoMeurer what do you make of this
we need anarchy
ChromeOS is Linux-based and it's OSS
but it's chromeOS
hungry
I wish I had a girlfriend like ACM to make me food.
Oct 16 at 23:33, by ACuriousMind
@3.5 Chop a bunch of veggies, get some meat if you like, throw it all in a pan and add (curry) spices and whatever base for the sauce (I prefer coconut milk, but cream works, too) when they're done. Usually quick (< 1 hour) and delicious.
:'(
i like delicious
@goodnight Learn to make it yourself (by trial and error), it's a good skill to have
@ACuriousMind Wait, you have a girlfriend?
23:10
@DanielSank Hmm ... didn't see that earlier. I have to disagree about Blade Runner not having a plot, but I can see how it might appear that way (especial the theatrical release with the voice over).
The ting goes pa-pa-pa
@BernardoMeurer you're misgendering me but he will soon.
@BernardoMeurer I think he meant that "a girlfriend like ACM", not having a girlfriend like I do :P
The thing is that the setting and mood and action and, indeed almost everything that happens on screen are all just the backdrop to the actual plot.
@ACuriousMind Aaaaah
I see
@ACuriousMind You didn't answer my question though :P
23:12
@BernardoMeurer what the fuck big shaq recorded his mv in toronto?
is he based in toronto? lolwat
guys does rotation of dipole, lined up with Electric field, cause difference in potential energy ?
@goodnight I think he's based in London
i missed a once in a lifetime opportunity
@BernardoMeurer To answer it: No, I don't currently have a girlfriend
23:13
The stories are about the emotional evolution of two characters—Deckard and Batty—and the story telling is pretty oblique.
@ACuriousMind I'll date you if you want
But they come to empathize with each other at the end.
@BernardoMeurer back off
this isn't even funny
@BernardoMeurer Thanks, but no thanks :)
@ACuriousMind Bah
What!
I am outraged
23:15
@BernardoMeurer y'all are physicists right? like spacetime and shit? fyi i'm buying time machine blueprints just putting it out there
Batty in particular starts with a fanatical focus on figuring out how he's going to get "more life, ******!", and ends seeing Deckard as his hope for some kind of legacy.
@goodnight I couldn't be a physicist if I tried
i can pay in deactivated credit cards, i have like 700 would that be alright
@BernardoMeurer then don't try
just do
Thanks yoda
@Narcissusjewel howdy did you see the art I made for you
23:23
@goodnight Where do I find it?
uhm
19 hours ago, by good night
@Narcissusjewel hello
for context
Hahahaha
The letters are G is a reductive algebraic group
T is a maximal torus
And the wings are opposite Borel subgroups that are rigid
:O
hmmm
I really like it though
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23:33
@goodnight right, physicists indeed study spacetime and ----! Dark Matter :P
@vzn dark matter is a hoax
spread by nasa
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@goodnight lol same as moon landings right?
no that was just a front.
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Q: Does rotating of a dipole in electric field, lined up with the field's lines, saves potential energy?

parvinI have read that, according to this image, when the dipole moment makes angle with field lines in direction of torque axis, the potential energy would be positive. So, is this situation the only way to have positive potential energy? Can we have it, rotating the dipole lined up with field lines,...

@BernardoMeurer The world isn't advanced enough to have invented a girlfriend for ACM. Currently, there seems to be a bit of a race between IBM and Google to see who can get there first
23:37
i feel acm is the dominant type he would prefer someone less advanced than him
How come the English dept at uni is so fucking bad
They have a "Student Voices" thing where you can submit an essay you did for any Eng class. And if you get picked it gets published in a yearly book and you get a pat in the back and so on
So I wanted to submit my essay, but there's no submission form online
no one?
23:39
So I go to the Department's secretary and the woman doesn't have the form
Tells me my professor will have the form
I go to my professor, she doesn't have the form
WHAT IS THIS
WHO HAS THIS FORM
AND WHY IS IT NOT JUST A PDF
@BernardoMeurer The devil.
Honestly sometimes I get why people think humanities are a meme
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@Mithrandir24601 (lol) top ACM gf candidate here dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5027573/…
would some one help me with this damn dipole? :(
@Mithrandir24601 I can't pick IBM in good conscience if I work for SAP since the founders were kinda fed-up IBM employees :P
23:41
@ACuriousMind i have good news to share!
can you take it from here?
Quoting our very own @DanielSank regarding IBM, "They can't even make a normal computer how are they going to make a quantum one"
sorry if I was too aggressive with her no hard feelings right @ACuriousMind
A lot of things have been happening this week in the quantum computing and astrophysics sector. Will talk about them in the chat section
@Secret and we now bring you live with secret straight from secretlabs
secret tell us what you have to say
Just went through a hardcore interview(php)
omg
waiting for feedback like a worried cow
23:51
@ACuriousMind Well... That's IBM out of the picture then... What about a photonic one? She'd (assuming you have romantic interests towards females) be a fair bit warmer than a superconducting girlfriend
@BernardoMeurer This is brilliant :D One thing I want to scream when I look at their chip graph is that they've already made a mistake like D-Wave and have hardly any actual connectivity. Their largest fully connected graph state isn't exactly great for a 20 qubit chip :/
@Mithrandir24601 D-Wave makes meme computers
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lol uh there is a new technology called memcomputing...
@BernardoMeurer I said that?
@Cows user name checks out.

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