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10:06 PM
How do you do definitions in latex
 
\overset{\mathrm{def}}=
?
or as in \newcommand{a}{b}?
wavefunction, wave-function or wave function?
(or even wawefunction?)
 
I mean like 'definition 5.1: blah blah blah' the way you'd do \begin{align} blah \end{align}
 
oh, you need the amsthm package
 
amsthm, then there's a definition environment
it does Definition 5.1. Stuff
Doesn't italicize the words
I'm not really sure one should do Definition 5.1, though.
maybe one should save it for the biggest definitions
 
So if you use amsthm you're supposed to define things in the preamble separately so you can number definitions and theorems differently I guess
 
10:16 PM
@bolbteppa No, one number for everything.
There's a way to sync numbers.
 
Cool got it
 
@bolbteppa in my preamble I use \newtheorem{mydef}{Definition}[chapter]
 
Yeah I just got that
Perfecto
It's italicized by default but if you put \normalfont inside the \begin{mydef} \end{mydef} it un-italicizes
 
I think that there is something you can add in the preamble to un-italicise everything
\theoremstyle{definition} perhaps?
 
Cool if you put it before where you define mydef in the preamble it undoes the italics
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A: Non italic text in theorems, definitions, examples

barbara beetonamsthm has three separate predefined styles: \theoremstyle{plain} is the default. it sets the text in italic and adds extra space above and below the \newtheorems listed below it in the input. it is recommended for theorems, corollaries, lemmas, propositions, conjectures, criteria, and (possib...

 
10:48 PM
Hey guys. Is anyone here familiar with mathematica?
 
Quick question. If I learn Python and later go back to JS, will I end up confusing the syntax?
 
Are u asking me?
anyways I think no
 
@Kiarash I've used mathematica, but that doesn't say anything about how 'familiar' I am with it (I doubt I'll be able to help). I think the usual advice here is just to ask the question and maybe someone will know the answer or know where to go to find the answer
 
11:04 PM
@0celoñe7 How's the white dwarf modeling going?
 
@Mithrandir24601 good point. thanks! I actually want to use Remote Kernel. anyone familiar with this?
 
11:25 PM
@HDE226868 been at an accelerator all day today
Got a skype call with an ODE expert planned for tonight
Going to figure out how to solve it more efficiently
There are some subtle issues
 
@0celoñe7 Classy. Which one?
 
@HDE226868 the campus one
 
@0celoñe7 Nice.
 
@HDE226868 search for "monster" and "basement" in the chat log
Maybe just monster, then eyeball basement.
 
@0celoñe7 That's very . . . illuminating.
 
11:36 PM
if i wanted to check if two photons are coherent, how could i do that (experimentally speaking)?
 
@heather check whether they interfere
there's all sorts of frills and whistles that depend on the details of the situation but they all boil down to just that
 
@Kiarash you'd probably have a better response at Mathematica or in their chat room
 
@EmilioPisanty constructively or destructively? or does it just depend on timing?
 
@heather both
 
@HDE226868 did you click on the image
 
11:39 PM
i.e. a full fringe pattern (of some sort) including both bright and dark fringes
 
if there's anything this project is teaching me, it's that i know nothing =P
 
@0celoñe7 Yep.
 
@heather Optical coherence is a pretty broad subject, and there's several different types of coherence which are independent of each other
so it's hard to say anything more specific about a general setting
 
okay, what details do i need to look at to figure out which type of coherence i need to read about?
 
start with
In physics, two wave sources are perfectly coherent if they have a constant phase difference and the same frequency. Coherence is an ideal property of waves that enables stationary (i.e. temporally and spatially constant) interference. It contains several distinct concepts, which are limiting cases that never quite occur in reality but allow an understanding of the physics of waves, and has become a very important concept in quantum physics. More generally, coherence describes all properties of the correlation between physical quantities of a single wave, or between several waves or wave packets...
In physics, two wave sources are perfectly coherent if they have a constant phase difference and the same frequency. Coherence is an ideal property of waves that enables stationary (i.e. temporally and spatially constant) interference. It contains several distinct concepts, which are limiting cases that never quite occur in reality but allow an understanding of the physics of waves, and has become a very important concept in quantum physics. More generally, coherence describes all properties of the correlation between physical quantities of a single wave, or between several waves or wave packets...
i.e. more specifically the Spatial Coherence and Temporal Coherence sections
fortunately, though, optical coherence is only ever relevant if you're going to perform an interference experiment of some kind
(... which makes the definition a bit circular - the photons are coherent if they interfere like you want them to and they're not if they don't)
 
11:44 PM
okay...spatial coherence seems to be treating a single wave, and a copy of it...that might be most relevant, because the photons are entangled...
 
@heather aha! the plot thickens
 
okay, maybe i should just explain what i'm doing.
 
=P
so, i'm going to be using sodium-22
which emits entangled pairs of gamma photons.
then, one will be going through some medium, like glass, to change its phase slightly, and after that i want to compare the two photons' phase.
 
@heather (on that first bit, though: coherence is almost always about hoping for interference between two copies of the wave that have been manipulated in some way. the way in which they've been manipulated is what matters)
@heather with gamma photons?
 
11:46 PM
yes.
 
in an experiment that can hopefully plausibly be implemented in the real world?
 
yes.
 
uh huh
gotcha
 
is this completely crazy/impractical in some manner?
 
experiments come in all shapes and sizes so if you've got someone credible who has a good angle, then go for it
but mostly
anything above vacuum UV is extremely hard to manipulate
 
11:49 PM
ah.
well, that's good to know.
 
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Q: Polarizing beam splitters for X-rays?

thymeWhat is the lower bound for the wavelength concerning polarizing beam splitters? Especially I ask for interferometer experiments with single photons. Of course I know that they exist for all wavelengths in the visible spectrum. But what when I want to use photons with a wavelength of 100 nm or 1 ...

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Q: Nuclear-transition laser

SuperCiociaWould it be possible to have a laser that uses atomic nuclear transitions instead of electronic ones? These are responsible for gamma-decay, so they would produce very high frequency radiation which could potentially be useful. How would one pump the laser medium?

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Q: X-ray Lasers and Forbidden Transitions

JackIMy notes from an introductory course about lasers say that There does not exist a laser emitting in the X-ray because the spontaneous decay lifetime is too short to have stimulated emission. In fact, it goes with the inverse of the frequency of the transition, therefore being small for high f...

some previous threads you might find useful
 
so...when wikipedia says VUV is " strongly absorbed by molecular oxygen in the air" - does that mean there's practically no chance of it getting through, or is it a, let the sodium decay for long enough and you'll get lucky, type of deal?
 
@heather VUV is called VUV because it propagates just fine
... in vacuum
 
i mean VUV in not a vacuum.
 
but if you roll past that then at some point the air becomes transparent again
what photon energy are you thinking of?
 
11:53 PM
whatever sodium-22 emits
gamma, certainly.
 
ah
and why do you think they'll be entangled?
 
because that's what sodium-22 emits.
well, actually, excuse me
technically, sodium-22 emits positron-electron pairs which annihilate and produce entangled gamma photons.
 
so, the gamma in blue, plus the one from the positron?
yeah, in principle those will be entangled
but
if you want to compare their phases, you're going to struggle
because they're at different frequencies
 
::groans::
 
I feel ya
getting single photons to interfere is hard.
 
11:57 PM
well, as my dad puts it: if it isn't hard, it isn't worth doing.
 
okay, so i guess a couple questions i have now.
am i basically going to have to put this setup in a vacuum chamber (which, i actually have access to equipment to do that, but i'd rather not if i don't have to) for it to work?
 
that'll depend on the photon energy
 
@heather what
 
at ~MeV the air is probably transparent
 
11:59 PM
@0celoñe7 well, unless it's nethack or minecraft.
 
but it's worth checking
 
@heather or eating or sleeping or calculus or driving or ...
 

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