@ACuriousMind normal persons use superconducting qubits instead of light.

@dmckee Congratulations, man.

@Kaumudi.H I'm around now (only 11 hours after you pinged :-)

How to solve this?

@Abcd Consider particle 1. Its initial position at $t=0$ is $\mathbf r_1$. Yes?

@JohnRennie yes

OK. If it is moving with velocity $\mathbf v_1$ that measn after a time $t$ the distance it has moved is given by the vector $\mathbf v_1 t$. Yes?

@Abcd You might like to use the concept of rel. Velocity and apply conditions for collision. Then use the definition of unit vectors.

@Kaumudi.H Well, yes, the Underground Man is an unreliable narrator. I think I did warn you about that.

Who's translation is this?

Not familiar with that. Let's see.

Huh, can't find a copy of that specific translation.

Sure

A page would suffice.

Sounds fair.

This is more or less how it's supposed to read (at least the part one), unfortunately. It's not a rational monologue (in whatever sense of rationality).

Only if you want to.

No, I don't think so.

I think it was my... the very second involvement with Dostoyevsky? About a year and a half ago I suppose.

I don't know how you're approaching the first half of the novel, but I think of it as a philosophical journal. It's divided into fourteen? sections, and he discusses free will, "superman", and the oppressive nature in one way or another.

Right, he's sort of trying to deceive the reader by getting carried away in the ramblings. There's an excellent Freudian analysis of the novel somewhere which explains exactly what he's trying to hide.

Yikes.

Not your best day, then.

Here it is: sites.utoronto.ca/tsq/DS/08/209.shtml

I don't intend to learn to drive in the near future but I suspect crashing into things and breaking your car is a standard set of events while learning driving.

So I would think one should not feel too bad for it.

:P

oh but crashing into things is fun

if you are learning under the supervision of someone else, it is legally not your fault if you cause an accident

so go and have fun

crash into things

try to kill people

"break a leg", as they say

it is your instructor's responsibility to try and avoid your dying

@Kaumudi.H oh. Then dont crash

during my driving test, it was raining heavily and the examiner told me to turn on the heater (something I had never done, so I had no idea how that worked) while I was going through a busy roundabout. We almost died, literally. I passed.

fun times indeed

@Kaumudi.H I'm back!

:-P

@Kaumudi.H Ok, here's a good way to think about it: even though most books you read has a coherent, easy-following plot, the way a person (eg, you) think in your head is not coherent. It's a collage, or that sort of thing. The fundamental premise of Notes is that it's trying to capture the semi-conscious mind of the protagonist (or the anti-hero, or whatever). So don't try to follow it; just go with the flow of whatever's going on.

@Kaumudi.H Afternoon.

I wouldn't worry about the crash. You're neither the first nor the last person to bump another car while having a driving lesson.

Your instructor will be well used to it happening.

Ah, your dad was with you?

Got it. Most of the works with any hint of modernism is going to have a streak of non-coherency in it so if (I stress the if) you want to get familiar with it, you have to compromise a little on that :)

@Kaumudi.H What's the difference between a car and an auto?

It's a smallish public vehicle thingy which is popular in India

You mean you crashed into an auto?

Not the greatest day, but these things happen.

Having experienced the traffic in Pune I'm amazed the Indian roads aren't littered with wrecks.

qz.com/1021205/…

I wouldn't let it put you off driving - I know that's easy to say ...

Was there much damage?

In that case shrug and move on.

If you'd written off your dad's car that might be something to worry about :-)

I might allegedly have driven a car through a hedge in my time :-)

Allegedly, is it?

I was driving a sports car and I was haring down a country road at improbable speeds ...

... and there was mud on the road right on a corner.

As long as it has turned out OK ...

One of the things about learning to drive is that you can be feeling pretty confident then something can panic you and all the stuff you've learned goes out of the window.

Everyone finds the same. Even experienced drivers can get flustered by something unexpected.

When my niece says Hmm she means You're talking bollocks Uncle John :-)

Once you've passed the test you don't have to take it again.

So getting the test behind you is a great thing because it means you can decide when you want to get a car without worrying about retaking any tests.

Do you enjoy driving?

@LasVegasRaiders I don't think anyone enjoys learning to drive.

@JohnRennie Which leads us to the overwhelming pyschoanalytical question of why, then, youngsters are so keen on being able to drive.

@LasVegasRaiders Once you've passed the test and the pressure is off, driving can be good fun, although for me personally the novelty wore off a while ago.

Unquestionably a resultant of the bourgeois materialist society of the postmodern days.

@BalarkaSen because passing the test opens up the choice of whether you want to drive or not i.e. it increases the phase space available to you :-)

Some people like to drive fast.

I should really stop making Marxist-Leninist trolls

(because the lumpenproletariats would not get it!)

I see.

With driving, practice is the only way to get over the fear.

Practice past perfection.

(as they say :-)

Anyway, I'm off to prepare lunch. Back in an hour or two.

cya

psychologytoday.com/blog/cutting-edge-leadership/201108/…

what I believe I lack is empathic concern. My other two empathies are relatively normal levels

@ACuriousMind yooooo

This Dandelion quest is like 15 hours long

Yeah, Dandelion's quest line is the one I think should've been shorter

Although it has some funny things in it, it just kinda drags on towards the end

Why, you can find dandelions everywhere

Just go outside

So I think the proper loop space that Smith was talking about was

1) All timelike loops with exactly $q$ corners are part of the loop space

2) all stings are part of the loop space

3) all concatenation of two such curves are part of the loop space

I think that explains everything he's talking about

@ACuriousMind I'm told to go to Skellige, but the quest KEEPS ON GOING

@ACuriousMind Unless this game gets better...Skyrim is better

and then it's alright to show that it has a group structure

I'm almost tempted to buy Witcher 3 just to see what all the fuss is about. Will it play OK on the i7 built in GPU (HD4000) I I turn down all the graphics settings?

And the loop space isn't so large that it's just the usual space of homotopies

@JohnRennie I don't know, but I heavily suspect it won't run on an integrated GPU at all

@ACuriousMind I did some Googling, and the consensus seems to be that it will work with the integrated HD4000 GPU but that it's barely playable.

@JohnRennie What was your G3D score?

It won't run on my laptop

I have dedicated graphics

@0celo7 What CPU does your laptop have?

trying to find out but Win 8 is cancer

i7-4980 2.8 GHz

My GPU in my laptop is four times more powerful and couldn't run it.

@0celo7 ah, then it definitely won't work on my laptop.

My desktop is...26 times more pwerful?

@0celo7 :-)

I wonder what happens if I put the fans to 100 while idle

Is that a bad idea?

oh god that was a horrible noise

why are you people running game on laptops

How very plebeian

money

We aren't

@JohnRennie I broke my fans

I asked if it was possible, and it isn't

@0celo7 by ramping them up to max speed?

My OC software has an "auto" fan setting

it's not working any more

I can still manually adjust the speed

Is there a reset to defaults option?

Then it goes to zero

now the GPU is cooking itself

Reset to defaults then shut down and power on again?

Oh, it works now

I'm having too many problems with this computer

I used to think it was Bootcamp that was stupid

I am now convinced it is Windows that is the culprit

@0celo7 you could stop tinkering with it :-)

@JohnRennie So, should I put on the correct fan for the water cooler and fix the thermal paste or just not worry about it?

I have one word to say:

I have to order a new power cable for my GPU anyway

$$\int e^{\hat{S}}d[\mu]$$

@Secret that guy has a very punchable face

@0celo7 I wouldn't worry about it. All the temperature monitoring you've done suggests the current thermal paste doing the job just fine.

Looks at this thing with pokerface

::clear throat:: person

@ACuriousMind Is TW3 censored in Germany?

@0celo7 No

You know what was censored?

I have no mouth and I must scream

(There was a level in a concentration camp)

it did not go over well with German censors

They just cut out the whole level, making the game unwinnable

@Slereah Based on the Harlan Ellison story?

@JohnRennie yes

actually partially made by Harlan Ellison

He was on the team

Wow, I had never heard of the game. You live and learn!

as an adventure game it's pretty poor but I did love it

I felt like h bar had become a gaming chat in recent weeks

The main site has gone to read-only mode ...

@Slereah Harlan Ellison is a great writer. He tells us so all the time :-)

He was also the voice of AM in the game

Very poor choice

He hams it up like hell

Which is hilarious, but perhaps detrimental to the ambiance

@dmckee Congrats! :)

BTW could someone explain to me what TeX could be used for other than LaTeX?

"Another widely used format, AMS-TeX, is produced by the American Mathematical Society and provides many more user-friendly commands, which can be altered by journals to fit with their house style. Most of the features of AMS-TeX can be used in LaTeX by using the AMS "packages". This is then referred to as AMS-LaTeX. Other formats include ConTeXt, used primarily for desktop publishing and written mostly by Hans Hagen at Pragma."

@SirCumference When I first used TeX, in around 1985, LaTeX didn't exist. We formatted documents using the Tex primitives.

@JohnRennie Yeah, I heard Tex predates LaTeX by a few decades

People quickly started writing libraries of macros to ease the pain, and I'd guess one of these libraries eventually evolved into LaTeX.

I don't know the history of LaTeX, but I believe it is still basically a set of macros built from TeX primitives.

What are the TeX primitives?

Can't remember. I last used them thirty years ago.

I'm sure that nice Mr. Google could dig them out for you if you really care.

I'm afraid I don't

Sigh...

CLAIM MY undefined!

how mysterious

@JohnRennie Yes. Please continue. There was a long power cut because of which I couldn't reply.

@Kaumudi.H so maybe you are not a lumpen after all

get a copy of Communist Manifesto and some big guns to fire at Kapitalists

Why so much affection for communism?

Good, work sucks but I can manage

@Avantgarde Only viable approach to socialism man

@Kaumudi.H Are you in college yet? :)

Last I checked you were still studying for the JEE

@Kaumudi.H Homework, studying, etc.

@BalarkaSen What's the problem with Socialism?

@Kaumudi.H Congrats :D

Good luck Kaumudi

What are you gonna study?

@Kaumudi.H If you don't mind, which college?

@Sid Eh, what problem?

@Kaumudi.H Finishing the JEE

No idea. :)

@BalarkaSen Oops, sorry, I misunderstood

I read that as "viable alternative to Socialism"

@Kaumudi.H Not perfect but better than before :P

I'm still trying to get to Catcher in the Rye but my profs aren't letting up...

Hello y'all

Howdy :)

That's right, Sid. He changed it to approach from alternative.

Hi Jaime

Hey Jaime!

I just got back from a Jewish town in Cáceres

Learned the secret handshake

In any case, I am not a huge fan of Communism..

so i got my finger dislocated/sprained. guess im officially retarded now

most people from communist countries are not

@Sid Bourgeois

If you read all my communism-related comments, you will see that I'm actually ironical about it

I believe communism is very idealistic and without a grasp of ground realities.

But, that's just my opinion

@Sid Eh, not a very good critique of communism

@Kaumudi.H You finally settled on CEng instead of neuro?

fundamentals of communism are buried down in Marxism, which does present a pretty concrete, fundamentally dialectical, model of the historical/sociological/economical process. it's not an "ideal". it's just that most of the standard approaches to communism, originated in the 20th century, turns into authoritarian dictatorship on the name of class uplifting and struggle

@JaimeGallego We have a secret handshake? o_0

In any case, @BalarkaSen The Communists I have seen in news channels are a bunch of hypocrites

this quesiton should not be closed

it makes no sense

pls vote to reopen ppl

@Sid well that's not a very valid basis for refuting communism

NB: watch out for emotions

Indian communism is a totally different beast

->search fail

actually...

@SirCumference Your parents mustn't disclose it to you :-)

... I am not sure if that link is relevant since you guys are talking about coummunism, not socialism

I don't lean Right either.

left wing politics in India is just bad. right wing politics is nearing fascism

That ^

sounds like India is beyond saving

aw yiss

Well, it will save itself eventually. No one cares.

noted

I will keep you in mind when the time comes.

@Sid the religious fire is probably not going to die down any sooner tho

While my political coordinate is as follows, I actually don't really concern or affiliated to anyone. I only support actions that are part of my plan, and I don't really care which camp they are in:

Oh, it will die down. There was a book of Abdul Kalam, "Ignited Minds".

My goal is to learn the mindset of all 4 camps (actually 5 since centralism is distinctive enough), and mix their strategies and tailor them to my plan

COMMUNISM

In that book, he mentioned 4 stages of a country. India is currently in the second stage: "The Warrior Stage": In this stage, people have too much nationalism and hope to show their power to other countries(which in history, led to Wars)

In addition, in real life, I obey or break rules depending on whether it is part of my plan

@Secret Is that part of some quiz? if so, link?

(unless the rule breaking have very serious consequences)

@Sid politicalcompass.org

@Kaumudi.H deadly fist fight with a neobourgeois on Hegelian dialectics

@Sid It's not just India. The US is stuck on that stage too.

Personally, I think it is a bit outdated for some questions, so watch your step

@Sid Interesting. I have not read that book.

Maybe I should.

@Secret It doesn't cost any money, right?

Left-wing politics in the US seldom exist anymore.

nope, it costs no money

Bernie Sanders :sadface:

Bernie was a centrist actually.

Or that's what I have heard people say

But then again, the US is stuck with first-past-the-post. Overhauling voting methods would show very different results.

The current system favors two big parties.

@Secret What is that plan?

Actually, other than preserving me and my friends' career and life future, the plan is not very clear yet

The central guiding principle is idea mixing, which is literally what it says, to mix all knowledge humanity have ever generated to test and breed new ideas

It is idea mixing that allows me to be (so far) quite open and relatively unpolarised about politics in general despite me being slightly left liberal

Extreme left or nothing

because in the end, all worldviews and ideals are ideas, and they are to be mixed anyway

The cool thing is that, very few things are known to affect the plan, because it does appear our current society is seeking for an increase in acceptance of other worldviews, equality and other equiltarian ideals

I mean, count the number of countries in the world that has accepted homosexuality and even legalised homosexual marriages, that should give you some ideas

@Secret I'm not sure that I can agree with this. It gives very few opportunities to take a stand and change things; human nature requires us to follow single, unified views for maximum efficiency. That can be good or bad depending on the view itself.

Strong opinions move people to influence the world.

That is pretty close to centre..

Well indeed, it is known that there are strategies and ideas that are best left pure for maximal effectiveness, but it still amazed me how the middle ground is often the best solution for many things (e.g. collboaration researches between different disciplines)

e.g. The far left (well at least socialist alternative) has this strength in their supercharged emotions to drive them to put forward a point and influence the world (and I am guessing the right also have similar strategies, though as far my experience told me, (except for some far right politicians) the right in general seemed to be calmer in handling things. I am not sure yet the underlying driving force that guides them, though