The h Bar

Secret

00:13

@Obliv According to wikipedia, all infinite cyclic groups are isomorphic to $(\mathbb{Z},+)$. Therefore, in this group, one can easily pick a subset e.g. $\{x\in \mathbb{Z} : x+5n \sim x\}$. This combined with modular addition, gives the finite subgroup $(\mathbb{Z}/5 \mathbb{Z},+)$. @acuriousmind can help me to iron out any details I mistaken (if any)

Steven Stewart-Gallus

00:35

How is charge on parallel plates distributed among atoms on these plates? I'd expect an exponential law similar to Fermi-Dirac or Bose-Einstein statistics but I'm not a physicist and don't know the details of these laws.

^In a capacitor

vzn

02:26

Physicists just confirmed a pear-shaped nucleus, and it could ruin time travel forever / sciencealert

Slereah

yeah I read it

It's dumb

It's just about T symmetry

vzn

@Slereah it was published in PRL. not good enough?

Slereah

The paper is fine

The journalism around is not

T symmetry isn't related to time travel

It's not even mentionned in the paper at all

NeuroFuzzy

@Obliv Proof that it can't: Suppose an element $f$ had finite order, $f^n=e$. Well $G$ is cyclic, so every element can be written as some $g^k$ for integer k, so $f=g^k$. Then $g^{kn}=e$, which contradicts that $G$ is a group of infinite order generated by $G$.

@NowIGetToLearnWhatAHeadIs HAH

@NowIGetToLearnWhatAHeadIs aww I got it wrong!

Always consider the identity first. Dang.

Sir Cumference

02:44

Correct me if I'm wrong, Schwarzschild black holes don't rotate, but Kerr black holes do, right?

Slereah

yes

Sir Cumference

@Slereah Okay, so how about this

0

Q: Can a star form a Schwarzschild black hole?

If I recall, a Schwarzschild black hole is a non-rotating black hole (unlike a Kerr black hole). However, can a star form a Schwarzschild black hole? I ask this because, just as all nebulae rotate, all stars rotate, right? So if a star collapses into a black hole, shouldn't conservation of angul...

Oh wait

I don't think they can be found in nature...

Crap

vzn

@Slereah agreed there seems to be a disconnect "somewhere" but the article is basically interviewing the authors on their own work...

Sir Cumference

Sir Cumference

03:40

Why do applied physicists make way more money than theoretical physicists?

user116211

03:59

@SirCumference applied physicists have more change of getting any job.

0celo7

@SirCumference Because one discipline is useless and the other isn't?

What kind of question is that lol

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Oh boy...

Can there ever be something I like that pays?

0celo7

No

Sir Cumference

Thanks...

0celo7

In general, real world skills pay more than useless academia bullshit.

Sir Cumference

04:04

I have no idea what I'm gonna major in

user116211

@SirCumference maths?

Sir Cumference

I would've loved to go into astronomy, but god knows there's not enough jobs

0celo7

Finance, clearly.

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Yeah clearly

0celo7

@SirCumference You have the nose for it.

Sir Cumference

04:05

@0celo7 That's not what I'm trying to say

user54412

@0celo7 No. Data science. No one goes into finance any more.

user116211

C'mon every theoretical physicist is not jobless ;\

Sir Cumference

I just don't want to spend another 15 years in school and struggle to get a job that doesn't pay

0celo7

@ChrisWhite It was a joke, he's Jewish.

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Oh...I get it...

Goddammit

I'm laughing through gritted teeth

0celo7

04:06

@ChrisWhite Please tell me you know Morse theory

user54412

@SirCumference Who says they do? The applied physics professors don't. And the further you are from academia, the less the subject on your degree matters.

user54412

@0celo7 I take it that's not about dots and dashes?

user54412

I vaguely remember it being mentioned somewhere -- was it Milnor?

Sir Cumference

@ChrisWhite Doctors apply chemistry, and they make way more money than theoretical chemists

Engineers make more money on average than nuclear physicists

user54412

I'm pretty sure doctors don't do any chemistry to speak, and very little biology either.

0celo7

04:08

@ChrisWhite Well...I need to show given a submanifold $X\subset\Bbb R^N$ there is a linear function $f:\Bbb R^N\to \Bbb R$ such that $f|_X$ is Morse.

user116211

@Sir: If all it comes to money, then why not become a Mexican drug Mafia ;P

Sir Cumference

@ChrisWhite Neurologist?

user54412

Also, it helps that they have a medieval guild santioned by the government (in the US), so they can charge whatever they want.

0celo7

Rick Ross - Mafia Music

►

Sir Cumference

@MAFIA36790 It's not all about money, but I don't know how Imma support myself in the future

Astronomers have to go to school for an additional 15 years after college, they struggle to find jobs, and it doesn't pay well

user54412

04:09

@SirCumference Doctoring is about memorizing what you're told, and doing it without question. Ask anyone who's been to med school.

0celo7

@SirCumference That's what my sister studied

She hated being poor so she moved to LA and did banking

user54412

@SirCumference 15?!? :(

Sir Cumference

@ChrisWhite Even the people who invent medical drugs make more money than quantum chemists

@ChrisWhite Yep bud, at least according to Rob Jeffries

user116211

@SirCumference quantum chemists

Sir Cumference

Starting salary: 50k

Quantum chemistry

Quantum chemistry is a branch of chemistry whose primary focus is the application of quantum mechanics in physical models and experiments of chemical systems. It is also called molecular quantum mechanics. == Overview == It involves heavy interplay of experimental and theoretical methods: Experimental quantum chemists rely heavily on spectroscopy, through which information regarding the quantization of energy on a molecular scale can be obtained. Common methods are infra-red (IR) spectroscopy and nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) spectroscopy. Theoretical quantum chemistry, the workings of which...

0celo7

04:11

@SirCumference god damn

that's what shit-tier engineers get after 4 years

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 That's for astronomy

user116211

@SirCumference That's theoretical chemists, but yeh I got it.

Sir Cumference

It eventually evens out to 100k, if you're lucky

But that takes another 15 years

user116211

Well, what about those who are perpetual students?

user116211

How do they earn money?

Sir Cumference

04:12

@0celo7 It's a bit less than nuclear engineers, but they're similar in salary

@MAFIA36790 They don't.

user116211

ooh.

0celo7

@SirCumference NE starting is like 70k after 4 years

not fucking 15

Sir Cumference

Going for another 7 years takes a lot more money than it pays off

user54412

The going rate for postdocs in astro (and indeed most physical sciences) is 40k in cheap places, 60k in expensive places, 75k if you win a fellowship. And that's after 5 (if you're at my school) to 7 (if you're everyone else) years of grad school.

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Oh no no no

Starting salary of an astronomer is 60k. They need to go to school for another 15 years after high school tho

0celo7

04:14

how does 15 even make sense

4+7=11

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 God knows, but I've asked two astronomers (one from the Astronomy SE, the other IRL) and they both gave that estimate

user116211

@SirCumference minimum 10yrs is necessary in every field.

0celo7

every?

user116211

I mean natural sciences and math.

Sir Cumference

The second one basically urged me not to go into it: "Don't go into astronomy if you want to be rich. Only go if you are really, really, really dedicated"

user54412

04:15

^ well that's true

Sir Cumference

@MAFIA36790 Yeah but they don't start out with 50k usually

0celo7

Don't do 99% of things if you want to be rich...

Sir Cumference

Doctors can make 500k after working for 30 or so years

user116211

@SirCumference true

Sir Cumference

Only astronomer that makes that much is Neil deGrasse Tyson

kevin Tah N.

04:16

Hey guys

Sir Cumference

And he didn't even discover anything! (to my knowledge)

0celo7

Just do spinal surgery @SirCumference

user54412

@SirCumference So does the chair of my astro department. You should compare overall values, not extreme cases.

kevin Tah N.

I have a giant favor to ask

who has time to help me see through a paper

Sir Cumference

@kevinTahN. Don't be an astronomer

0celo7

04:17

@ChrisWhite how does one figure out department head salaries

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference lolz

0celo7

I wonder how much mine make

Sir Cumference

@ChrisWhite How do you know that?

To be honest

Maybe I should become a doctor, but there is blood...

I'm not a fan of blood

0celo7

are you scared of blood?

user116211

@SirCumference I hate blood

Sir Cumference

04:18

Shaddup

D:

user54412

@0celo7 Public universities report it. Private universities, you have to listen to gossip, note their house sizes, and look into how much endowment is set aside to pay them on interest. It's not easy, but it can be done.

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Nah, I'm just scared of having to mess around with bloody patients

Like wtf these people's lives depend on me

kevin Tah N.

so who wants to volunteer to read the ideas I would try to come up with

0celo7

@ChrisWhite How would I go about checking this out

I'm at a public

Sir Cumference

You know that kind of stress?

0celo7

04:19

@SirCumference you're clearly not doctor material

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Thanks...

0celo7

@SirCumference yw

Sir Cumference

So what's next? What else makes good money in the science field?

I'm honestly desperate, my parents are telling me astronomy is a "micky mouse major"

0celo7

Win the Nobel.

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference Medical Physics

0celo7

04:20

Win the Nobel and the Fields.

user116211

@SirCumference You have to work with dead bodies full of formalin...ah!!!

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Yeah I'll work on that

0celo7

And a few Millenium problems.

Does the Fields give you money @ChrisWhite ?

Sir Cumference

Researchers make no money...

Duck

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference Medical Physicist or computer scientist (Senior programmer or research scientist)

Sir Cumference

04:20

Anyways

0celo7

@SirCumference If money is your main concern you're not researcher material

user116211

@0celo7 you have to become isolated from the society to solve those problems ;P

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 I just need to support myself, man...

kevin Tah N.

make money on the side, do research for the love

user54412

@0celo7 I actually don't know.

0celo7

04:21

@SirCumference support yourself != rich

kevin Tah N.

at least that's my plan

Sir Cumference

@kevinTahN. Huh...well what job should I go into mainly then?

I'm a theoretical guy

user116211

@SirCumference academia

Sir Cumference

I guess comp science...

@MAFIA36790 You mean as a professor?

0celo7

that's hardly theoretical if you want to make money

user116211

04:22

@SirCumference yep

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 I know...that's the only applied thing I'm good at

0celo7

What's so hard about understanding that 99% of theory does not pay

Because it's 99% useless

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 The "not" part

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference I have to confess I don't know anything about what physicist (theoretical) make, but I think they must be pretty rich. Most of the ones I know live in rich communities and have rich company of friends

0celo7

@kevinTahN. Tenured profs, sure

Sir Cumference

04:23

@kevinTahN. I don't need to be super rich, I'd just like to be comfortable with a profession I like

0celo7

But what % of physics students get tenure

user116211

@0celo7 it would be very less, i betcha

Sir Cumference

HDE is gonna go into astrophysics

Good luck to him...

0celo7

@ChrisWhite So no idea about my Morse problem?

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference me too. I used to be want to be like you, and had no care for money and believed in happiness and love, but I had no money and everyone treated me poorly, and I also noticed I could not do the things I loved. It changed me

user54412

04:24

@0celo7 b2.caspio.com/dp.asp?AppKey=949210001195c88527a3436d9668

Sir Cumference

@kevinTahN. Oye, man...I know...

0celo7

@ChrisWhite whoa what's this

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference Money is the fuel that determines where we go in life

Sir Cumference

@kevinTahN. Sadly, and those who have a passion for paying professions are lucky

Plus there's no astronomy jobs in NY (where I live)

Go figure

Stupid light pollution

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference wow

0celo7

04:26

@ChrisWhite Jesus these salaries are crap

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Which?

0celo7

@ChrisWhite how did you find this?

user54412

I'm that good, what can I say

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference I was just in NY, it is a cool place with tons of great people and cool meetups. There is no other place like NY

Sir Cumference

@kevinTahN. I know... ;-;

Sigh...

user54412

04:28

I'm starting to think that @SirCumference is talking about actually operating a telescope... which these days is done by pretty much a separate group of people from the scientists who use that data.

Sir Cumference

@ChrisWhite Oh yeah...still, no jobs in NY

I've researched

I'd have to move to like Arkansas or something

user54412

No, there are no telescopes within 1000 miles of NYC.

Sir Cumference

@ChrisWhite Where do you think you're gonna work?

kevin Tah N.

Well someday I hope to get offered a Physics job, but until then, I have to first see if I could even make it into a grad program someday, when my financial situation is stable

Sir Cumference

NASA accepts people like an Ivy League school does

As in, 5%

Then again, you got into Princeton XD

user54412

04:30

@SirCumference Hope? A university somewhere in the US. Expect? Something vague and computery in the Bay Area, like everyone else my age.

kevin Tah N.

You guys are fine, don't worry. I am sure you will figure it out

0celo7

@kevinTahN. Doubtful

I'm not sure what to do here

Sir Cumference

@kevinTahN. Maybe. The best answers I've found online are "If you are worrying about money, you're not cut for the job" or "You won't be driving a Mercedes, but you'll survive"

0celo7

Maybe I need that "most functions are Morse" theorem

Sir Cumference

Which are good answers, I guess...

I'm more worried about the location.

And time needed to study before I can get a job

And the difficulty of finding a job

0celo7

04:32

Kanye West is just too good

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Aren't you a bit worried tho? About finding a job in your area?

Not to be rude

0celo7

@SirCumference I don't have an area

I'm a military kid

I grew up on two continents and in 4 states

As long as it's not Florida or some other miserable shithole, I'll be fine.

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Er, where do you think you'll be working after you get a PhD?

0celo7

Unless I get married, which would constrain me.

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference if have heard that if you have a good advisor, and are generally nice (and still have your innocence) and genuinely enjoy what you are doing, it should all work out.

@0celo7 I grew up all over too

Sir Cumference

04:34

@kevinTahN. I hope I'm a nice guy, and not sure what you mean by innocence

kevin Tah N.

lol

Sir Cumference

I'm the most innocent guy I know in terms of, you know...

0celo7

@SirCumference No, not really

Sir Cumference

That's not something I pride myself in

0celo7

What

@SirCumference Go grab some ass on the subway

Sir Cumference

04:34

Hell god no

That's sexual harassment

0celo7

Only if she doesn't like it.

Sir Cumference

No, it's still sexual harassment

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference well the world is strange, that's all I meant, but There are plenty of cool Universities out there,

Sir Cumference

Chances are she won't like it

kevin Tah N.

hehe

0celo7

04:36

@SirCumference Who are you gonna trust on this, me or you

Sir Cumference

I'm not horny enough to grab a random woman's ass

0celo7

One of us is not single

Sir Cumference

...

Sigh...

I give up on things

kevin Tah N.

lol

Sir Cumference

But in terms of knowledge about anatomy, I'm also super innocent

So that's fantastical...

XD

0celo7

04:37

lol did not expect that to onebox

user54412

...

Sir Cumference

LMAO

Ok I'm done

kevin Tah N.

So who wants to be my critic for the next month. I want to seriously try to write some paper. Does anyone have time to may be look at the crap I will be writing and say something about it:/

I don't even know how this is done

0celo7

damn Morse theory

user116211

@SirCumference You can join Wall Street, BTW.

user54412

04:39

Don't expect promises up front. Just write something and drop it in this room. Since no one here is working anyway someone will probably look at it.

Sir Cumference

@MAFIA36790 Yeah no

kevin Tah N.

Do I compute something and then write a story about what it means?

hehe

0celo7

@ChrisWhite No one is working?

Sir Cumference

@kevinTahN. Just make sure it's not something like this

user116211

Econophysics

Econophysics is an interdisciplinary research field, applying theories and methods originally developed by physicists in order to solve problems in economics, usually those including uncertainty or stochastic processes and nonlinear dynamics. Some of its application to the study of financial markets has also been termed statistical finance referring to its roots in statistical physics. == History == Physicists’ interest in the social sciences is not new; Daniel Bernoulli, as an example, was the originator of utility-based preferences. One of the founders of neoclassical economic theory, former...

Sir Cumference

04:39

kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/…

user116211

hmm.

0celo7

@ChrisWhite if I don't work I have to deal with an angry Brazilian geometer and the DHS

Sir Cumference

God knows what that's saying

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference cough cough. . . I would try to make it less like the mentioned paper. . . . :)

user116211

@SirCumference It's simply saying go to the Wall Street after graduating in physics

Sir Cumference

04:42

@MAFIA36790 Yeah ok

user116211

and there is an assured decent salary.

Sir Cumference

@MAFIA36790 I have no interest in that

user116211

Unless something bad happens when Trump comes.

kevin Tah N.

@SirCumference @MAFIA36790 how much do those Wall street guys actually make?

Sir Cumference

The only thing I have coming for me is $50k in astronomy and a bunch of SE rep on Astronomy

That'll be my life

user116211

04:43

@SirCumference yep ;))

0celo7

I'm literally stupid

user116211

@kevinTahN. don't know.... but they say there is a good salary ;\

Sir Cumference

The only solace will be when I have enough rep to match my salary

0celo7

rep cannot be negative.

user116211

Hmm. What about Lumo? How does he earn money?

0celo7

04:44

Koch bros. probably

user116211

He is not in academia also ;\

user54412

@kevinTahN. 300k the moment they graduated college, give or take

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 True, I'd be losing a lot more money than I'd be earning if I went to school for 15 years

user116211

@SirCumference why not get a scholarship?

Sir Cumference

@MAFIA36790 Easier said than done

kevin Tah N.

04:45

@ChrisWhite OMG please if any of you make it there, tell me how to do it lol, that sounds epic

user54412

@SirCumference Uh, grad school in the sciences pays you, you know

user116211

well, but of course there's a possilbility.

Sir Cumference

I actually said "easier done than said"...

I'm losing it

user116211

@SirCumference There are grants also for research.

Sir Cumference

I bet there's some obscure judaism scholarship

user116211

04:46

Funding, I would say.

Sir Cumference

I was told to always look into obscure scholarship

@0celo7 Wow...

0celo7

Let's change the subject to something that came up in my philosophy class

Sir Cumference

Yeah good idea

0celo7

Is there any truly racially insulting thing you can say to a white person?

Sir Cumference

Yeah. Call them "cracker" or "whiteboy"

user116211

04:48

@0celo7 white person?

Sir Cumference

Or "mayo"

user54412

@kevinTahN. The vast majority of those people are alpha-male types. They all went to Ivies, went to all the best frat parties. They type that walk in the room, size you up, shake your hand hard enough to let you know who's boss, and then talk about playing some pickup basketball after work.

0celo7

@SirCumference No one gets insulted by those.

user116211

Why would you want to do that?

Sir Cumference

^

@0celo7 You really shouldn't speak for everyone

user54412

04:49

→ 1 message moved to Trash

Sir Cumference

I give you an example and you claim "no one gets offended by it"

0celo7

@ChrisWhite is being mean

user54412

I'm saving you from trouble.

kevin Tah N.

@ChrisWhite hehe I am certain that that's not me , plus I wont want to live that kind of life everyday hehe

0celo7

@SirCumference A small minority might.

@ChrisWhite Oh I'm sure

Sir Cumference

04:50

@0celo7 So racism is subjective, I guess

End of story?

0celo7

@SirCumference Ok, how about "societally recognized"

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 Subjective

Not defined well at all

Racism is subjective however you look at it, and it depends on the relationship between the person saying it and the person receiving it

@0celo7 Also why do you have a philosophy class?

0celo7

@SirCumference Lack of intelligence

I'm going to sleep

Sir Cumference

'Night

Same here

'Night y'all

kevin Tah N.

night night people cool chat :~)

0celo7

04:53

what kind of nose is that

Voldemort?

user116211

@0celo7 he HAZ nose?

kevin Tah N.

hehehe,

:^)

user116211

@kevinTahN. pinocchio's nose?

kevin Tah N.

yup

Sir Cumference

05:18

So, back...

Does anyone here know QM?

Sir Cumference

05:43

1

Q: What happens to the energy of fermions when a degenerate gas forms?

For example, when an electron degenerate gas forms, two electrons (of opposite spins) occupy each of the lowest possible energy states up to the Fermi energy. This is because of the Pauli exclusion principle. However, as all the electrons reach low energy states, where does all their energy go? ...

quantum-mechanics energy energy-conservation fermions pauli-exclusion-principle

John Rennie

06:22

@SirCumference I make it up as I go along - does that count? :-)

@Danu I blame the referendum

John Rennie

06:38

I went to university intending to study physics and discover a unified field theory (which I thought would be really easy if only physicists would get their finger out). Along the way I discovered I really liked quantum chemistry (and QFT proved to be harder than I thought) so I did a PhD in solid state photochemistry. Then when I discovered there were no jobs in Academia I went to work for Unilever as a colloid scientist. Then after I'd made some money and paid off the mortgage I became a computer nerd, which is probably what I was really destined for all along :-)

Sir Cumference

06:51

@JohnRennie Yes

John Rennie

@SirCumference I've answered your question - I hope my answer is helpful. I also hope my comment on career choice is helpful.

Sir Cumference

@JohnRennie Yep, thanks! I'll keep it in mind :)

Danu

@JohnRennie think LMU has an astronomy MSc.

John Rennie

@Danu a Masters? But presumably you need to do a physics degree first.

Danu

@JohnRennie Sure.

John Rennie

07:05

Actually, a masters in astronomy makes a lot of sense. It gives you a chance to try specialising in it before committing to a PhD.

kevin Tah N.

@Danu I want your assistance with something. I want you to be my advisor for a month. I want to write something in ADS/CFT. I feel like I am too lazy and if i am not kept accountable I can't do anything

Danu

Lol.

kevin Tah N.

@Danu I want to do some quassi trivial computation or something, since I have no paper yet. I think I am kind of ready to compute something simple. Can you like spend your spare hours like proofreading what I come up with lol

Danu

You should perhaps read Erdmenger's book?

@kevinTahN. Probably not, realistically. I've got my finals in 2 weeks :\

(and they last for about 3 weeks)

kevin Tah N.

oh darn,

How do I find an ego free next level bored physics professor to read what I will have every week so I don't produce embarrassing stuff

Danu

07:12

Honestly, you probably won't.

kevin Tah N.

Do you know any stack exchange bros in Los Angeles or anywhere who are super bored and might enjoy doing this. I will do all the work I am just looking for a second pair of eyes

yeah, it is hard to find someone lol

Danu

@ACuriousMind maaaaaybe?

kevin Tah N.

hmm, that would be nice

Let's summon him. Hey @ACuriousMind let's make this happen :^)

I can finally compute CFT correlation functions,I feel like I am master of the Universe :) hehehehe

Vertex ops, and Energy momentum corr func stuff lol

I have been trying to secretly write a paper for a while now and I think I can write a kindergarten level ADS/CFT paper now. I am just too lazy and scared I will make a giant error and be laughed at, so somebody has to stop me if I start making wrong computations or saying things that don't make sense

Danu

I think what you should do most of all is see what has already been done

kevin Tah N.

yeah the old guys have done a lot of stuff. I was just thinking wow, there is so much that has been done already and I have to learn how to go over the literature and access what has been done and what needs to be done, but most importantly what I can actually have a chance of doing at my current level.

John Rennie

07:29

this is a general comment, not targetted specifically at Chris, but I wouldn't underestimate the intellectual satisfaction involved in a (good) IT job. Yes, there are lots of routine and unrewarding jobs in IT and there are lots of bored and unhappy programmers out there. But there are also lots of IT jobs that are really hard and really interesting.

I think the skills involved in the more interesting edges of IT are very similar to those involved in physics and maths. You'll be struggling to understand something phenomonally complicated and looking for innovative ways to improve it.

Sir Cumference

@Britain You know you fucked up when most of your population googles "What happens if Britain leaves the EU" the morning after the vote is passed.

John Rennie

I think you're being a bit unfair to the 48.1% of Britons who did not vote to leave the EU.

user116211

07:44

How could the English lose against Iceland ;(((

user116211

@JohnRennie No; that's because of that damn manager ;(

Sir Cumference

@JohnRennie Given that the other big google search for the UK on that same day was "what is the EU", I still think "fucked up" is a fairly accurate descriptor

It really could have been prevented if more people were aware

user116211

in Agents of Nothing, 21 hours ago, by KutuluMike

or the one guy who voted to Leave because he was sick of all the Iraqi immigrants.

user116211

when you see Trump is happy with any decision, then dude there is something serious wrong in that decision ;\

Slereah

08:31

lel

user116211

@Slereah WTH is that? ah! Anderson!! hmm.

Slereah

andersoninstitute.com

it's a hoot

I don't even know why they include quantum tunneling in time travel

user116211

@Slereah Enough proof against this hoax.

user54412

@SirCumference You know, if nobody knew what the EU was (and I'm skeptical of that), one could argue that they did the right thing by voting to leave. Call me American, but it seems that if a people don't even know who a government is then they cannot consciously subordinate themselves to that government, and such a government is then a tyranny.

Slereah

what

user116211

08:45

ah! Tipler cylinder was discovered by that same Cornelius Lanczos who wrote The Variational Principles of Mechanics; interesting.

Slereah

Well it was discovered by Tipler

Or more precisely by van Stockum

user215373

hi

user116211

08:59

> The Tipler cylinder was discovered as a solution to the equations of general relativity by Willem Jacob van Stockum[1] in 1936 and Kornel Lanczos[2] in 1924, but not recognized as allowing closed timelike curves[3] until an analysis by Frank Tipler[4] in 1974.

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