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Danu

18:00

Also in the traditional Jewish setting, it is apparently 13-14

Jimnosperm

I choose not to understand it though

Danu

...probably for similar reasons

Jimnosperm

@Danu But that's at least not gender-specific

ACuriousMind

Humans suck sometimes.

Danu

@Jimnosperm True, true. Men become 'adults' in Iran at 14, btw. Identical rules apply in Saudi Arabia

Jimnosperm

18:02

@ACuriousMind Usually in the privacy of their own house with another consenting adult

Danu

@Jimnosperm "adult"

Jimnosperm

@Danu "consenting"

Danu

@Jimnosperm "house"

Jimnosperm

@Danu "privacy"

ACuriousMind

"Usually"

Danu

18:04

@ACuriousMind "the"

David Z

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Danu

!!!

Jimnosperm

"ACuriousMind"

Danu

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

ACuriousMind

Uh...what just happened? :D

Danu

18:04

This was beautiful

Jimnosperm

Pay attention

Danu

It's like 4chan counting to 20

Alfred Centauri

@ACuriousMind evidently, some in the thread don't quite grok the concept "humiliated". I wonder if they would be 'humiliated' to know that I find them unworthy of a second thought?

Jimnosperm

@AlfredCentauri Aren't you second thoughting them now?

Danu

@AlfredCentauri Alfred, I do wonder... Why do you always appear to be so annoyed/aggravated at rather small issues like this? Or is it just that I'm misinterpreting the tone from your writing?

ACuriousMind

18:06

@AlfredCentauri Yes. Yes they would. (Also, what @Jimnosperm said)

God, you can't even abbreviate as Jim because there is your minion around!

Jimnosperm

I may be wrong, it may be second thinking

not second thoughting

ACuriousMind

Yeah, it's second thinking

probably

Jimnosperm

@ACuriousMind I'm not sure why he hasn't changed his name yet. He regretted Jiminion but so it remains

I like second thoughting better

Alfred Centauri

@Jimnosperm No, actually, my first thought is that their opinion is of no value to me and that's that.

Jimnosperm

@AlfredCentauri when did you have this thought?

ACuriousMind

18:09

@Jimnosperm Either he has forgotten that he can change it, or you've got a fan.

Let's ask him

Hey, @Jiminion, why are you still Jim's minion?

Jimnosperm

@ACuriousMind Everyone is my fan

Jiminion

@ACuriousMind I'm a lazy minion.

Jimnosperm

We work so well together. I ask nothing he does nothing. Harmony

Jiminion

If I was back to Jim, it would still be an abbrev. problem..

Jimnosperm

Plus I'm Jim

.... We may have a spartacus problem

Jiminion

18:12

Plus, being a minion to a Canadian adds an extra level of degradation.....

Jimnosperm

You're american right?

Alfred Centauri

@Danu perhaps it comes across as annoyed / aggravated but it isn't meant any other way than as a dry statement of fact. It seems that, on occasion, this annoys / aggravates others.

Jiminion

@Jimnosperm Yes! Pardon me for not being louder/more obnoxious/fatter/etc.

Jimnosperm

You say it's degrading to be a Canadian's minion, but whose flag do your countrymen wear when going abroad to Europe? Ours. Why? Better to be a Canadian than an American

Jiminion

@Jimnosperm Sry, just joking.

Jimnosperm

18:16

Me too. Stereotypes are unfair. Just pointing that out

Jiminion

@Jimnosperm Have you heard this? : When they created Canada, they were seeking American Government, British Culture, and French Cuisine. But instead they got American Culture, French Government, and British Cuisine.

@Jimnosperm Americans and Canadians have a very special relationship, even if Americans can be jerks sometimes.....

Jimnosperm

@Jiminion Have not heard that. Not really true either. Our government is English, our cuisine is American, and our culture is Hockey (praises be upon it)

Jiminion

@Jimnosperm True true. Canadians have this rep for being so nice and polite, but not in a hockey rink!

Jimnosperm

@Jiminion special...... that's a word

DanielSank

Ignore me, guys. Showing a friend chatjax

Jimnosperm

18:20

@Jiminion We invented a few sports. Basketball was too pansy, so we gave that away. Lacrosse wasn't cold enough, so we mostly ignore it, but hockey was just brutal enough and fast enough and cold enough to be perfect

DanielSank

$\int f(x) dx$

Jimnosperm

Besides, it's hard to be polite all the time. Gotta let the rage out somewhere, eh?

Jiminion

Lacrosse is a pretty tough sport as well.

Jimnosperm

It's hockey with net sticks and no skates

and more hitting

Jiminion

My roommate got knocked over in a lacrosse game and couldn't move for 10 minutes. No more contacts sports for him.....

Jimnosperm

18:28

Hockey without contact just isn't possible. Lacrosse without contact is just boring

Canada is a weird place. One of the few where we measure time in units of distance and distance in units of time

"How far is it to Doug's house?" "Oh about 15 minutes" Or, "How long until we get to Bob's?" "About three more blocks"

Danu

@AlfredCentauri :)

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Stan Shunpike

22:11

Wikipedia says a bispinor is an element of a 4-dimensional complex vector space considered as a (½,0)⊕(0,½) representation of the Lorentz group. Georgi defines a group as a mapping $D$ from a group $G$ onto a set of linear operators such that

1. $D(e)=1$
2. $D(g_1)D(g_2)=D(g_1g_2)$

What does (½,0)⊕(0,½) stand for? Is that a direct sum? If so, what kind of mathematical objects are (½,0) and (0,½)?

ACuriousMind

@StanShunpike You should not jump into the representation theory of the Lorentz group if you have just learned what a representation is

Try something nicer like $\mathrm{SU}(2)$ or $\mathrm{SU}(3)$ first

In fact, I'd heartily recommend understanding the $\mathrm{SU}(2)$ representations, because they are among the building blocks of the Lorentz representations, and interesting in their own right, because they are connected to angular momentum and non-relativistic spin

Stan Shunpike

Alrighty, I'll start with that.

DanielSank

23:04

Hey @Danu,
A few days ago it was nice and hot in Santa Barbara and I started craving lemonade. Then I remembered that I'm an adult with a job and money and I can buy lemons and make lemonade whenever I feel like it. So I bought lemons and strawberries and made strawberry lemonade. It was damn good.

Anyway, the point is I agree with you that lemons are delicious.

@Jimnosperm I don't know why people are so bad at it but it's awful. I spend almost all of my time on this site now fixing grammar, punctuation, and horrible titles. It's really sad.

I kind of want to propose that if you can't be bothered to spend the time to type carefully enough to respect your would-be readers your question should be nuked.

ACuriousMind

@DanielSank I appreciate you taking the time to make the site look better, but if it makes you feel bad, you should stop doing that.

But the punctuation thing is really mysterious. I get people might not be good at grammar or orthography, but you really shouldn't be able mess up putting dots at the end of sentences.

ACuriousMind

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