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7:21 AM
Guys, what do you think about the name xcadoo.com for computer software program?
 
 
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9:01 AM
@JingleBells I don't think a program should be named like a website :P
@Philip The standard way of obtaining which-way information in the double slit are different polarizers at the slits
since photons do not interact at first order, you can't really get a reliable interaction just by shooting other photons at them
@Charlie Careful - despite the notation $\{-,-\}$, the Poisson bracket has more in common with a commutator than an anti-commutator: It is of the schematic form $AB-BA$, and it is a Lie bracket, while the anti-commutator is $AB+BA$ and does not fulfill the properties of a Lie bracket
 
@ACuriousMind Thanks. I was actually thinking of polarisers when I asked the question But what do you mean "do not interact at first order"? Wouldn't a detection of the polarisation state count as a detection of the photon?
 
@ACuriousMind Hmm, interesting. What do you mean?
 
@Charlie All the commutator-like brackets are usually really Lie brackets, i.e. your algebra is a Lie algebra of some Lie group, and then the bracket is the infinitesimal version of conjugation in the group.
 
@ACuriousMind My other ideas for the program name are: qir1, fiz8, ves1 (I'm voting for ves1)
 
And then you have outliers where for some reason the anti-commutator is relevant :P
@JingleBells I mean that I would expect a software to be named 'X', and then its website to be 'X.com'. I would not expect the software to be named 'X.com', unless the software powers websites
 
9:08 AM
@ACuriousMind .com extension is also a kind of executable in windows OS.
 
@ACuriousMind Oh no, I mean, software is named ves1, and domain is ves1.com
ohh I get it :D
lol
I meant xcadoo.com without the .com lol
but I think I'll go with ves1 for the software name and it's website - ves1.com
 
@Philip I meant that photons do not interact with each other at first order in QED, so shooting at the slits with a laser doesn't do much unless it's a very intense laser. Of course photons interact at first order with other things.
 
What kinda software is that?
 
@JingleBells Without even vaguely knowing what the program is supposed to do I can't say for sure, but all of those look like randomly generated names and I would suspect malware if I saw those names running on my computer :P
 
I wanted to ask, what Kind of software y'all use for writing Financial Statements in Startups?
 
9:12 AM
@ACuriousMind Ah right. But if I put (say) a polariser after one of the slits, then shouldn't I have "collapsed" the interference pattern? Because I could -- in principle -- look at the setup with another polariser and I''d know which photon came through which slit, yes?
 
@abhas_RewCie Alright, I'll also allow it if it's a retrocomputing software ;) (.com is a legacy type of executable)
 
haha :)
 
@Philip you need to put orthogonal polarizers at both slits to collapse the pattern completely
because otherwise the polarization doesn't tell you for sure which slit the photon came through
 
@ACuriousMind Good point! Ok, so let's assume I do that.
 
then that is exactly the standard way to do which-way information for photons, yes
 
9:14 AM
@ACuriousMind lol, you wouldn't find the software randomly lurking in your PC, you'd have to download it first :P
@abhas_RewCie software for programmers
 
@JingleBells compiler or what? (sounds that there's ves1 assembly compiler too)
 
@ACuriousMind ok! I'm guessing trying this with a simple double-slit and polarising film is too ambitious, but do you think such a thing would be possible to do without specialised equipment?
 
@abhas_RewCie not a compiler, I don't want to reveal details yet :P what do you mean there's a ves1 assembly compiler?
 
@Philip I'm not an experimentalist but I don't see why you'd need specialized equipment.
the polarizers probably need to be relatively good but that's all
 
@JingleBells No, there are assembly registers like ST1, ST2... (They are roughtly like Variables), so I thought vst1 is something related to assembly
 
9:19 AM
oh nop, just randomly generated 4 character free domain name
 
@ACuriousMind How interesting! I wouldn't mind trying this out, sounds like it'd be a great pedagogic experiment... Incidentally, do you happen to know of any resources where they discuss this?
 
I'm downloading Apache OpenOffice for Linux x86 Although it's a bit buggy, I don't see better alternatives tho.
 
@Philip the effect of polarization on the interference of light is a classical phenomenon known as the Fresnel-Arago laws
it's worth stressing that unless you're doing the double slit with low-count single photons, there's nothing quantum about it - everything can be explained by the classical wave theory of light
 
@ACuriousMind @ACuriousMind yep, but like you said above, if this is the "standard" way to do it, do you know of any references that discuss this? I can't seem to find anything that uses photons...
 
I've a question (bit silly) but I'll ask after this conversation.
 
9:26 AM
I don't have access to many textbooks, but it's surprisingly hard to find a source on the internet for that. Here's the best I can do: chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/…
 
@ACuriousMind I know, right? I spent quite a while looking for it even before I posted the question. But this sounds interesting. Thanks! :)
 
How to know that I'm overthinking about somethin?
When it's normal thinking and when it's overthinking?
 
usually asking that question is a good sign of overthinking :P
 
@JingleBells I'd be careful about naming a product with x as the first letter :p
 
@JingleBells aha, so they were randomly generated! I'd strongly advise not to do that, you want to be able to tell some sort of story about your name - it's what people will hear/see first, and first impressions count
 
9:30 AM
Well, if I don't think of something/someone, it's bad. When I overthink, it's bad too... So, which one is middle?
That's actually giving me issues...
 
@abhas_RewCie This question depends too much on context to be answerable
 
@Charlie like?
 
As in, different situations call for different amounts of thinking
 
the amount of thought appropriate is different for the question of what your next meal is and the question of what you're doing with your life for the forseeable future :P
 
uh, not solution, but someone..
 
9:32 AM
For instance 30 minutes isn't long to spend deciding on a car to buy, it is a lot of time to spend deciding what kind of sauce to have on your burger
 
Okay, I rephrase my question now.
Is it a good idea trying to forget someone?
@Charlie haha :)
 
Again that question is too broad and depends on context lol
 
like?
Ummm......
Then, let me think about it myself... :\
 
Whether or not it's a good idea to forget someone depends too much on context to be a yes/no answer
 
Okay, then let me rephrase it again
 
9:37 AM
Is the merging of the black hole is really possible? some recent science shows that it is , I am looking for the significance of it.
 
@Yuvraj yes it is
 
@JohnRennie HI sir
 
@Yuvraj What makes you think it wouldn't be?
 
If you want to see it, then, there's a cool video for that
 
@Yuvraj hi :-)
 
@Yuvraj I wrote an answer on that a while back. Let me have a look ...
 
@JohnRennie same question goes around me
 
17
A: So Black Holes Actually Merge! In 1/5th of a Second - How?

John RennieThis presumably stems from the fact that in the coordinate system of an external observer nothing can ever cross the event horizon of a black hole. This is perfectly true, but if you were watching an object fall onto a stellar mass black hole it would red shift to invisibility in a few microseco...

 
@Charlie For me if something happens it needs to have some significance for black hole there numerous theory, but with no proper idea
 
I'm not sure what that means :p
 
9:41 AM
the "idea" is general relativity. What exactly do you think is missing?
 
@ACuriousMind @Charlie @JohnRennie The ultimate fallacy of Black Hole Mergers?
In the source frame, the initial black hole masses are 36M and 29M, and the final black hole mass is 62M,with 3M radiated in gravitational wave.
There was no EMF, Electron, Positron, Neutrino and Hardrons ejected at old and new emerging Radial Poles?
 
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're trying to say.
 
this is my question
 
@JohnRennie yes sir
 
9:44 AM
> Dear Yurij, I have reasons to suspect that the accelerating expansion is driven by a vacuum energy that is capable of decaying via Unruh radiation from collapsed objects (black hole candidates) over the course of the next 60 billion years or so.
Every day I give thanks that the Physics Stack Exchange exists.
 
@JohnRennie radiation decreases the mass of blackhole?
 
@Yuvraj by definition no matter can be ejected when black holes merge because that matter would have to cross an event horizon to be emitted and that isn't possible.
Though real black holes are almost certainly surrounded by accretion disks and matter will be ejected from the accretion disks during the merger.
 
@JohnRennie so yes there is a decrease in mass of the black hole
 
@Yuvraj yes. Remember Einstein's famous equation E = mc² ? If the merger emits an energy E then the mass has to decrease by Δm = E/c².
So energy emitted as gravitational waves does decrease the mass of the final merged black hole.
 
Now so radiations bring the mass
 
9:52 AM
Mass is not a conserved quantity in relativity.
 
some say about virtual particle and some called virtual particle concept as nonsense
 
When the mass turns into gravitational waves the total mass is reduced i.e. the gravitational waves have zero mass.
@Yuvraj virtual particles are a computational device.
 
@ACuriousMind :P too late, ves1.com is miiineee
 
They don't have a physical existence as particles in the sense that the particles we see around us exist.
 
@JohnRennie can you elaborate>>?
They have mass and they have energy. Due to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle,?
 
9:54 AM
@ACuriousMind most domains that i can tell a story with are taken.
 
@Yuvraj have a read through this:
15
A: Why is the mass of the proton such a precise value?

John RennieYou say: a zillion gluons and quarks and anti-quarks self annihilating and popping into existence and while this is a very common way to describe the interior of a hadron like a proton it is actually rather misleading. Nothing is popping into existence then disappearing again. But explaining wh...

 
@ACuriousMind Plus, I don't even know if people would want such a software, so I'll make video, with a nice little website and a download button to track and see.
 
@JingleBells Do smoke testing for it.
 
@JohnRennie good!
 
Create Minimal Viable Product
Then, gather demand and result.
 
9:58 AM
you know that the download button doesn't magically make software appear, right? ;)
the main part is making the software, not it's promotional materials :P
 
heheh :)
 
actually, my professor always make us believe that such particle exist near the black hole.
 
Wait what software are you making JingleBells?
 
secret software
 
although I refer this thought as non sense @JohnRennie
 
10:00 AM
@Yuvraj the "virtual particles" explanation of Hawking radiation is just an analogy, and Hawking said so himself, see John's answer at physics.stackexchange.com/a/252236/50583
 
I don't need the software to figure out if people want the software.
 
that's more like a metaphor.;P @ACuriousMind
 
Dropbox did it this way, to validate their idea. They created a promotional video of their unexisting product and watched how many people would be interested
 
Yes, so, use Lean Startup Methods to create MVP - Minimal Viable Product
 
@Yuvraj I would be cautious about calling anything nonsense. Virtual particles may be a fiction, but they are a very useful fiction.
 
10:01 AM
A minimum viable product (MVP) is a version of a product with just enough features to satisfy early customers and provide feedback for future product development.Gathering insights from an MVP is often less expensive than developing a product with more features, which increases costs and risk if the product fails, for example, due to incorrect assumptions. The term was coined and defined in 2001 by Frank Robinson and then popularized by Steve Blank and Eric Ries. It may also involve carrying out market analysis beforehand. == Description == A minimum viable product has just enough core features...
 
@abhas_RewCie I don't need an MVP, yet.
 
There is no good explanation of Hawking radiation
 
Lean startup is a methodology for developing businesses and products that aims to shorten product development cycles and rapidly discover if a proposed business model is viable; this is achieved by adopting a combination of business-hypothesis-driven experimentation, iterative product releases, and validated learning. Central to the lean startup methodology is the assumption that when startup companies invest their time into iteratively building products or services to meet the needs of early customers, the company can reduce market risks and sidestep the need for large amounts of initial project...
@JingleBells What Dropbox did was MVP
 
Ah yes, Meaninglessly Capitalized Buzzwords are how to write software
 
@JohnRennie nonsense means whose existence is not defined
 
10:02 AM
LMAO
 
@Yuvraj it depends what you mean by good. There are certainly no simple explanations of Hawking radiation because it is a very complicated subject.
 
@abhas_RewCie As far as I know, they didn't. As far as I know, they created a video to promote without having a software first.
 
@JohnRennie , how two virtual particles "annihilate" without emitting photons? Maybe they do not "annihilate", but rather disappear? can you answer this for me please!
 
@JingleBells A video can also be a MVP
 
Hawking radiation is of course rigorously described by the theory Hawking developed.
 
10:03 AM
MVP != actual product
 
@abhas_RewCie check the definition of MVP please
 
@abhas_RewCie What it is>>?
 
With Honey, the domain cost only $6.40 lol
^ this message was sponsored by Honey
@ACuriousMind no, the main part is first to see if somebody wants the software, before wasting days making the software.
 
"days"
2
hahahahahaha
 
@JingleBells see lecture 13 here - nptel.ac.in/courses/127/105/127105007
 
10:08 AM
@JohnRennie are you there?
 
@Yuvraj hi
 
@abhas_RewCie sorry, can't right now
@ACuriousMind wut?
 
5 mins ago, by Yuvraj
@JohnRennie , how two virtual particles "annihilate" without emitting photons? Maybe they do not "annihilate", but rather disappear? can you answer this for me please!
 
5 mins ago, by John Rennie
Hawking radiation is of course rigorously described by the theory Hawking developed.
 
@Yuvraj I don't understand what that means. In what context do two virtual particles annihilate without emitting photons?
 
10:09 AM
@JingleBells Not only DropBox, see the study case of Zappos too!
How he created MVP
 
@JingleBells I have no idea what sort of software you think can be developed in a timeframe better described by "days" rather than "months" but I can almost guarantee you no one will pay for it :P
 
I guess that happens in vacuum diagrams, but then as we agreed earlier virtual particles are not appearing and disappearing in a vacuum.
 
@abhas_RewCie sure, I know about zappos as well, but these are NOT MVPs. MVP is a version of the product. For me to make an MVP would be to create a simple crappy version of the software. Making a video is not an MVP.
 
@JohnRennie if A black hole is emitting photons, thus (theoretically) has given up mass to generate those photons
 
@Yuvraj Yes, that's true.
If it emits an energy E in photons the mass decreases by E/c².
 
10:12 AM
@JingleBells By definiton (we are taught in the class), *A Photograph, a video, or even a paper survey can also be considered MVP :*
 
@ACuriousMind I can almost guarantee myself that no one will pay for it as well, that's why I'm validating the idea first. But sure, I've built countless things over the years, some have worked, other haven't. But I think this idea has potential, so it's worth a try.
@abhas_RewCie A photograph of a product is not a version of the product itself.
 
@JohnRennie Photons appearing from the vacuum for every such pair" would violate conservation of energy?
 
@JingleBells So you'll alone be developing, financing and marketing the product? Wow!
@JingleBells Who cares, A photoshop lookup will also do the job!
 
@abhas_RewCie I hope not. I'll look for people to help, but first I'll validate t he idea alone, yes :P
 
10:13 AM
Coffe time ping me if you feel the same!
 
Good Luck, then! :)
 
@abhas_RewCie thx
 
@JingleBells What I'm trying to say is that you vastly underestimate the effort required to make working software that's polished enough to give it to anyone else
 
The day is the unit of time programmers use to predict how long software will take to develop. It should not be confused with 86400 seconds.
 
10:14 AM
The chatroom is alive, damn
@ACuriousMind Mark Zuckerberg built facebook in 15 days.
 
Not facebook in it's current form though
 
@ACuriousMind I guess he's talking of Core Product only, after that, he'll collect investments and will hire programmers
 
The website was a lot simpler back when it was being designed i assume
 
@Charlie Sure, but he still gave it to people, and they liked it.
 
Sure, the market was a lot wider back then though that's worth remembering
 
10:16 AM
But, the most difficult stage for software products is death Valley! Once you get VC(s), things will be much easier....
 
as in not in consumer volume, but in terms of competition
 
@Charlie Competition is not a problem if there are too many competitors :P
Market Barriers tend to get low when there are a lot of competitors....
@JingleBells If you need any help with Marketing or Financial Tasks, feel free to ask...
 
What do you mean by market barriers?
 
In theories of competition in economics, a barrier to entry, or an economic barrier to entry, is a fixed cost that must be incurred by a new entrant, regardless of production or sales activities, into a market that incumbents do not have or have not had to incur.Because barriers to entry protect incumbent firms and restrict competition in a market, they can contribute to distortionary prices and are therefore most important when discussing antitrust policy. Barriers to entry often cause or aid the existence of monopolies or give companies market power. == Other definitions == Various conflicting...
 
I love seeing the chatroom so active
 
10:19 AM
@JingleBells I don't know what you mean '(googling "facebook created in 15 days" gives nothing), but it's certainly false in the sense that he didn't build it from nothing. There was a predecessor site called FaceMash and it took Facebook itself 5 years to become profitable
 
When vast segment of customer base is already occupied with competitors, then, the degree of entry room is called Market Barrier
 
Why would a lot of competitors lower the entry barrier?
 
@Charlie For example, you buy a pen, you may try a new company, but when in case of surfing, you won't leave google, because there aren't very much good entries...
 
I feel like that's more to do with monopolies than lack of competition though
 
Usually, Branding and Branding Management is used to deal with Entry Barrierrs....
 
10:21 AM
@ACuriousMind I'm not talking about profitability. I'm talking about making a really crappy, simple, barebone version of the product with just the most fundamental and necessary features and giving that to some group of people. You gather their feedback and you adjust the product, you give it to people again, you gather feedback, adjust product, etc... in that way you know which features people like and which features they don't like.
 
@Charlie Monopoly is caused due to lack of competition and performance
 
It's really really bad to try to build the final product with all of it's features from the start.
 
Sure, but why would lots of competition lower the bar to enter a particular market?
 
@JingleBells You will be amazed how much work is even in a "really crappy" software :)
 
@JingleBells I guess ACM is right. You just build a simple Alpha MVP Product, then gather investors, then hire other programmers with it. That's how it should be. You can't make a near perfect version yourself (usual cases, causally)
@Charlie Because of competitive advantage, it's easier to enter Oligopolistic Market than Monopoistic Ones...
I gave you an example of pen.
 
10:25 AM
@ACuriousMind Depends on the software, doesn't it? quora.com/How-long-did-it-take-to-develop-Facebook Some things can be build fast, other slower. In the case of the Limbook (AR E-reader) I built, it took me 4 months and I still couldn't finish it. But I was adding unnecessary features since I didn't know about "validating ideas" then.
 
When you have a lot of choices to buy a pen, you can choose any one, but if you are committed to one company, then it becomes difficult to try other brands...
 
And by the way, I'm ready to spend months building something but first I need to know at least some people would want it. That's idea validation and that's what I'm doing now.
 
@ACuriousMind depends on software too, for example, Vim is used more than any other IDE, but Vim is extremely lightweight, won't take a week to build it, whereas a typical IDE will take months o years to complete.
@JingleBells How you are collecting Marketing Research? for idea validation?
 
Ah you just mean gaining a share of the user base, I thought you were talking about financial barrier to entry
 
No, not financial Barrier....
 
10:28 AM
@abhas_RewCie I'll make a video, a simple website and a download button. I'll advertise the website (and/or the video) and see how many download clicks I get.
 
@abhas_RewCie ...what. vim is an extremely complex piece of software that has been in development for almost 30 years
 
@JingleBells No, not download, rather, subscribe or remind button
 
honestly, if you think that something even close to vim is "simple" you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
 
@abhas_RewCie ??? wut
 
the simplicity of its user interface is a design goal, but that doesn't mean the underlying implementation is simple
 
10:30 AM
@ACuriousMind Okay... No idea, honestly, I just use it, never saw source code....
In computer programming and software testing, smoke testing (also confidence testing, sanity testing, build verification test (BVT) and build acceptance test) is preliminary testing to reveal simple failures severe enough to, for example, reject a prospective software release. Smoke tests are a subset of test cases that cover the most important functionality of a component or system, used to aid assessment of whether main functions of the software appear to work correctly. When used to determine if a computer program should be subjected to further, more fine-grained testing, a smoke test may be...
 
this is exactly what I mean when I say that y'all vastly underestimate how long it takes to build software!
 
well that's true...
@JingleBells I mean, just make a link counter.... Ask them to click the link in case they like the product. So, the ratio of total clicks by total visits to the product page (or Youtube Video) is the demand
And demand % is just demand*100
 
I started my software project in 2011. The problem with such a time frame is that the programming languages change faster than the project.
 
LMAO
that's soooo true!
same problem with PHP
the syntax changed with PHP 7.0, when I was developing it with PHP 6.X
 
But at least, my project is not a "really crappy" version. It works and it is fast.
 
10:35 AM
link?
 
Hm, let's see, there should be a link somewhere but it's a bit old.
 
Seems informative software...
 
@ACuriousMind I don't. I have built software and I know that if you have a lot of free time, you can build a crappy useable version of the product in less than a month.
 
I can build a crappy version of FB in a week.
I had, loooong agoooo tried cloning Twitter, turns out crappy!
 
I thought FB is already crappy.
2
 
10:39 AM
LMAO
hahahaha XD :)
For some reason these Windows Games, IGI, IGI2.... are running faster in Debian under WINE than Windows itself...
:\
 
10:54 AM
@ACuriousMind I'm pretty sure we can both agree that it all depends on the software you build, how fast you code and how much time you spend coding.
 
@JingleBells I agree that it depends, but unless you're doing something so formulaic that you just need to put together pieces others have written with very little glue code, "days" just isn't a realistic timeframe for any of these cases. The gamut ranges from "a few weeks" for a simple utility without UI or persistence requirements to "years" for most other things
People notoriously can spend weeks trying to fix a single bug in a moderately complex application!
 
@ACuriousMind Hmm, I disagree. I understand that what we understand by "software" may differ, but I'm not talking about coding complex stuff in plain C++ or something like this. I use Visual Studio C# to code windows programs. UI is literally just drag and drop and the logic is relatively simple with C#.
 
11:34 AM
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oh no
math the sequel
 
Math II: Eclectic Boogaloo
 
Boo
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boo
 
@Slereah NEWSWIRE Nature Unveils New, Harder Physics
 
11:50 AM
@skullpatrol Hey! Long time no see buddy!
 
Hi pal
how are you?
 
@skullpatrol great buddy, you?
 
fine thanks
 
@skullpatrol I went to depression few months back, took meds n, back with a blast!
 
coolio
 
11:53 AM
yep dude?
What are you doing?
projects or what?
 
the NFL starts today :D
 
I thought that was only popular in USA...
 
Correct.
 
NFL is that basket ball thing na?
 
Football
 
11:55 AM
Oh okay... American Football na?
 
yup
 
(Not that soccer thing)
normal football
 
correct
 
Wow!
Which is your favorite team?
 
Las Vegas Raiders
 
11:56 AM
Wow!
 
I like Las Vegas! Casino and stuff!? right? I may visit that place once :)
 
yup
 
Wow, you live in Vegas?
 
nah
 
11:57 AM
I guess Nevada must be near Vegas?
okay
 
that is the state
 
Vegas is a state or Nevada?
 
Nevada
 
Okay, so Vegas is in Nevada?
 
yup
 
11:58 AM
Okay...
Today Trump visited Nevada for campaign...
I saw the video...
No one was wearing masks..!
 
You sound surprised :p
 
Lol? Wut?
Donald Trump doesn't likes masks, that's why he doesn't wears!
 
The push back against mandating mask wearing has come primarily from republicans
 
Okay, political reasons.... maybe....
Vaccines are coming in December....
 
yes there's definitely political reasons for it
 
12:01 PM
Okay, not going into politics now....
But, Donald Trump is pretty famous in India..
 
Really?
Why?
 
People call him Dolan Trump here
 
yup
 
He's totally a meme material
Hundreds of Memes of him on Twitter and so.
Actually he's a unique guy, and probably people like him and his memes :)
 
Are most memes about him not negative though?
 
12:03 PM
No, there are no reason for being -ve tho....
 
no reason?
 
They are usually making fun of accent, style, hair and so...
Indian people have nothing to do with Donald Trump, they just know him as a character not as a politician
 
he is the betting favorite to get re-elected
 
He may....
He calls Joe Biden Sleepy Joe on Twitter.
Politicians here in India don't name calling each other.
probably multiparty system
 
There isn't usually as much name-calling as there is now
and it's fairly one sided :P
 
12:08 PM
Who do you think would win?
Donald Trump is republican? right?
 
yes Trump is republican
 
7 mins ago, by abhas_RewCie
Okay, not going into politics now....
 
polling is showing a biden win atm afaik
 
Okay... Not going into politics again
 
:-)
 
12:09 PM
So, when are elections happening?
Do they happen in every 5 years or what?
 
you can just look that up e.g. on Wikipedia
 
You can see what kinda meme material is Trump family here.
see replies^
It all started with this:
 
The challenge was to make something as cringe as much as one can out of it... Probably she didn't get it and mistakenly shared it too...
 
> The Serum Institute of India said it would restart its trials once it had permission from the Drugs Controller General of India.
 
12:25 PM
uk elections are 5 years, us elections are 4
 
Okay okay...
@skullpatrol SII also started the last level of trial of Russian Vaccine
Hey, can anyone tell what to do to prevent frizz in hair? I used conditioner today and it's pretty fine till now, and gets frizzy after 4-5 days...
 
styling gel
 
@skullpatrol I don't use gel often, it has more adverse effects in long run...
I use wax only when going to parties or so, otherwise not.
@Charlie @skullpatrol Do you want to see Indian politicians now?
See this:
> Sure, @chetan_bhagat ! It’s clear you are not sesquipedalian nor given to rodomontade. Your ideas are unembellished with tortuous convolutions & expressed without ostentation. I appreciate the limpid perspicacity of today’s column.
Replies:
> That's fine Shashi but what about the abnegation of camaraderie in the egregious enfranchise that comes from the fatuous of the grandiloquent at the behest of impecunious and insidious semaphore?
Can anyone translate those to english to me?
hehe XD
 
@skullpatrol That's soo less, India already has 100,000 cases per day XD
 
per 1 billion total people
 
What is the population of France then?
 
Okay, my state's population is 10x of France with 145k cases
 
12:55 PM
China is still hiding all their coronavirus numbers
same goes for Indonesia
 
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