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6:00 PM
@Mithrandir who gave power to theses careless people then?who Don’t want to complete one task to full .
 
Hello everybody! We know that the derivative will give us the rate of change or something at a specific point in time. (e.g instantaneous acceleration...) but what will the integral tell us? I'm trying to understand it and somehow relate it. I know that $a = \frac{dv}{dt}$, meaning, we can get the acceleration at any point in time, but what about integrals, how can I translate them into meaningful words?
 
quick poll. what's your web browser(s)? I begin : firefox
 
Anonymous
@coniferous_smellerULPBG-W8ZgjR Chromium/Firefox/Chrome
 
Integrals are areas under curves
 
@coniferous_smellerULPBG-W8ZgjR I parse the html in my head.
 
6:03 PM
@vo
@NovaliumCompany if you integrate the velocity for example, from some time to some other time, you will find the total distance traveled during that time period
 
@ACuriousMind lynk?
or some command line web browser
 
@enumaris So it's kinda like finding the whole from the parts? Some sort of like weird multiplication :D
 
@NovaliumCompany If the function you're integrating is a rate of change (like the velocity is a rate of change of position), the integral over some period of time gives you the total change during that time, in the case of velocity the total distance travelled.
 
btw modern websites are full of css and the like i guess. html can't decipher everything i guess
 
@NovaliumCompany yeah, basically
 
Anonymous
6:05 PM
BTW this is an excellent quick-reference PDF for heavy RevTex users.
 
Anonymous
I had almost forgotten about it
 
it's a sum of a bunch of multiplications (i.e. the Riemann Sum)
 
Cool, and how about when we integrate acceleration? I'll give us the velocity I suppose for some time period, but that is the averaged velocity in that time period I guess?
 
It will give the total change in velocity over that time period
 
@NovaliumCompany No, it's the total change in velocity over that time.
 
6:07 PM
@ACuriousMind jinx?
 
@enumaris jinx.
 
Hmm, I think I get it. That's why when integrating velocity, we get the change in distance, not the averaged distance :D
 
yep
 
Ok guys, thanks. I'mma go take a shower now :-)
 
Anonymous
Take a bucket bath instead
 
Anonymous
6:10 PM
Showers are for normies
 
Bucket and lotha
 
Anonymous
Yep ^
 
@Blue that's hardly the worst part of revtex.
 
Anonymous
@EmilioPisanty So, what's your favorite worst part? :P
 
6:21 PM
Trumped by a mile by the incompatibility with anything that isn't natbib over bibtex
 
Anonymous
@EmilioPisanty I see. I never used anything other than natbib. BTW you must have seen this?
 
@Blue looks pretty useless to me
I see no point in investing in learning biblatex until it's supported by revtex
Half my output goes to aps and it must go on revtex, therefore must go on bibtex, therefore I can't drop bibtex
There's no point in fragmenting my bibliography handling
Plus, I'm reasonably happy with my current workflow and style file
I wouldn't say no to a platform that was more robust and more flexible, but not at the price of needing to stay current with two systems.
 
6:46 PM
why do journals want .eps figures while pdf is better
 
Anonymous
@coniferous_smellerULPBG-W8ZgjR Most don't...
 
Anonymous
Nowadays PDF is the more preferred format
 
Anonymous
Read the author guidelines of the journals
 
Anonymous
They usually give the details there
 
Anonymous
6:48 PM
About which formats they accept
 
this is what ive done ^^ and they wanted eps, but that was for a single journal
 
Anonymous
Many even accept .png images
 
Anonymous
@coniferous_smellerULPBG-W8ZgjR Which journal?
 
well yes when you take a picture of your lab setup.... what else could it be? .raw?
review of scientific instruments
as far as I know , they want .eps, no pdf for figures
so I'm fine for png file as long as it's not for plots, but for photographs
 
Anonymous
Yeah, for photographs .png works well enough
 
6:51 PM
i also found no easy way to share programming code
post to github which may die, does not look a good idea to me
 
Anonymous
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Q: Is the PNG file format acceptable for academic papers?

TymricWhen I have to use Microsoft Word for writing a paper, I tend to export most my graphs and charts into the PNG image format since I find it the most convenient due to its smaller size (than TIFF) and higher quality (than JPEG). However, when I wanted to submit papers for conferences, none of the...

 
Anonymous
@coniferous_smellerULPBG-W8ZgjR "which may die"...the open source guy in you is showing ;)
 
not really. same for gitlab i suppose
 
Anonymous
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A: Which figure type to use: pdf or eps?

Lev BishopUse PDF. EPS cannot be imported directly by pdftex but must be converted using something like epstopdf. These conversion procedures will often cause unwanted changes to the graphics, such as lossy JPEG encoding of embedded bitmap images. Pdftex will include PDF files directly without making any c...

 
Anonymous
Oh, and this ^
 
Anonymous
6:54 PM
PDF>EPS
 
Anonymous
(So your journal is clearly an exception!)
 
haha my journal! I wish!!!
 
Anonymous
Lol
 
and yyeah I had seen that post a few months ago
 
Anonymous
You're an undergrad, right?
 
Anonymous
6:56 PM
Material physics?
 
which made me wonder the question I posted here ^^
i'd prefer not to reveal too much on me ^ thanks :D
 
Anonymous
Oh, okaies
 
Anonymous
I remember
 
Oh man, today’s SMBC is great
 
Anonymous
"If anything, we know for sure that biologists aren't gonna be the first ones to be able to debunk the creationists" - might work for an applied physics/chemistry dept ;)
 
7:06 PM
im too lazy man but i'd love to change my profile pic to a big sketched nose smelling a coniferous
looks like there's 0 website providing a software that would merge 2 pics into 1
i dont want side by side, i want them mixed altogether
 
Anonymous
There are tons of photo editors which can do that
 
yeah but online ones?
 
Anonymous
Online ones would be crappy mostly
 
i dont really care ^^ but ill check this out, thanks
yaeh i have gimp and imagemagick
 
Anonymous
7:14 PM
 
Anonymous
Reminds me that I need to reproduce this image ^
 
Anonymous
(from a textbook)
 
Anonymous
Not sure what the most efficient way would be
 
Anonymous
I could use Google Draw but it doesn't support LaTeX labels
 
Anonymous
I could somehow trick gnuplot into generating something like that, but that doesn't seem very efficient either
 
Anonymous
7:16 PM
Any ideas?
 
matplotlib or something would be pretty easy if you knew the functional form
The dotted one seems like it may be a bit tricky though
 
Anonymous
Does matplotlib support latex labels?
 
Anonymous
@danielunderwood Yeah :/
 
if you ask it very nicely
I remember there being a way, but I don't remember exactly how
 
Anonymous
@danielunderwood Well, I don't know the functional form...but something at least resembling that graph would be nice
 
7:21 PM
you can just type $$
it will render it as latex
 
Anonymous
Cool. I think I can do the LaTeX thing in Gnuplot too. The difficult part would be to create the shape
 
like plt.xlabel('$\mu$') should work
 
Maybe it's a Gaussian with a smaller amplitude gaussian off to the right?
Or just create a gaussian and keep poking it with other gaussians until you're happy lol
"Gaussian series"
 
Anonymous
Gaussian will do I think
 
Anonymous
But the other one
 
Anonymous
7:23 PM
The S shaped one
 
sigmoid or tanh
yay ml
 
Anonymous
Sigmoid...ah
 
Anonymous
I forget that name
 
or logistic because someone lost their mind
 
Anonymous
Well, I need to shift up the centre of the sigmoid by a bit
 
7:25 PM
it's an exercise left for the reader
couldn't you just shift the whole thing to the left?
 
yes matplotlib supports latex labels
2 ways for that. the matlotlib way and another more experimental way using matplot2tikz
the latter uses matplotlib syntax to create a picture using tikz, so in the end it's 100% latex
from the labels up to the curves themselves
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Q: Matplotlib's PGF vs Matplotlib2Tikz

SAADI want to generate some plots to be integrated into a LaTeX document compiled with pdflatex. I also want the plot font (legend, title ...) to follow the settings of the LaTeX document. My search so far gave 2 possibilites: using the PGF backend in matplotlib to save raw plot data and then input...

 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
Hmm, somewhat getting the look
 
Anonymous
Gotta flatten the Gaussian now
 
Anonymous
Cool, gnuplot will suffice it seems :P Gotta use the epslatex terminal
 
7:35 PM
looks like a pdf and a cdf
 
Anonymous
 
haaaah
which book is that?
 
Anonymous
Well, this is the whole thing ^ :)
 
Anonymous
@Semiclassical Stauffer : Intro to PT
 
PT= Percolation theory?
 
Anonymous
7:37 PM
Yep
 
(PT = Phase transitions would have made sense in this context as well)
 
Anonymous
The functional form of $\Pi$ is given
 
Anonymous
But the exponent is not fixed
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
@Semiclassical Hehe, sorta the same thing (well, one is a subset of the other) :P
 
7:39 PM
right
I remember doing some percolation theory hw problems in my grad solid state course but
too long ago for me to remember anything useful :P
 
Anonymous
Heh, as far as its applications in physics are concerned, percolation theory is more or less simple. The real difficulty shows up when we try to prove the existing conjectures (there are 100s of them). Random matrix stuff goes over my head most of the time
 
Anonymous
I guess the statisticians would be more equipped to handle such problems
 
8:11 PM
Hmm, putting a wire with current in a magnetic field would cause the wire to experience a force with direction determined by the Lorentz right hand rule, is that correct?
 
can you get the stat of the ratio of upvotes/downvotes once you reach 25k points
for a particular person
 
8:34 PM
@NovaliumCompany the right hand rule is separate from the Lorentz force law. It will experience a force described by the Lorentz force law. Proper application of the Lorentz force law involves using the right hand rule to determine the direction of the force.
 
@Blue formulating conjectures in percolation theory: easy
proving them: very hard
 
Does SE automatically put newer answers first if there isn't an accepted one? I just saw stackoverflow.com/questions/7751555/… and it's kind of sad
 
@enumaris Hmm, got it. Putting a wire with current in a magnetic field somehow never came up on my todo list as a kid. Oops, phone battery at 6%.
 
..I think git should have its own SE site
 
Anonymous
@danielunderwood Start an Area51 proposal!
 
Anonymous
8:46 PM
(They might close it as "narrow scope"...but worth a try)
 
@danielunderwood Depends on what answer ordering you choose. The default is to order by votes in descending order.
 
wow I'm a fool
I've never noticed those tabs in all my time on SE
 
something something discussion about not seeing banners
 
Anonymous
This is a nice tool, hmm
 
8:54 PM
oh man look at the banner on this ad stackoverflow.com/jobs/200052/…
 
Anonymous
"You might find yourself contributing to our platform if you…

Read and prototype machine learning research for fun
Have a breadth of knowledge in machine learning, mathematics, computer science, and statistics
Read graduate level mathematics books by the pool
"
 
Anonymous
This part ^
 
Anonymous
?
 
Anonymous
I'm not sure which banner you are referring to :P
 
no no the image
 
Anonymous
8:56 PM
Ah, looks nice
 
Though I'll admit that the "books by the pool" thing was meaning pool as a volume and I was a bit confused
 
Anonymous
Lol, same here
 
Anonymous
"in the pool" would be funnier tho ;)
 
Anonymous
Looks like a good job btw
 
Anonymous
Benefits

Unlimited Vacation
Company paid Medical Insurance for Employees and Dependents
 
Anonymous
9:00 PM
Whoa. "Unlimited Vacation"...that's something XD
 
My current job has "unlimited vacation" but it comes at the cost of occasional weeks full of 15 hour days
 
@Blue Have you heard about that being a recent trend in tech?
 
Anonymous
@DavidZ Nope, I don't keep up with the news much :P
 
Anonymous
Is it ?
 
Anonymous
Sounds like a perfect scam
 
Anonymous
9:03 PM
@danielunderwood Was expecting that XD
 
Anonymous
@danielunderwood Do they allow you to work remotely ?
 
Kind of, yeah. It's probably more accurate to describe it as unrestricted vacation time - basically the company decides to trust its employees to take days off whenever they need to without having to stick to a fixed limit.
Ironically it often winds up in people taking less vacation time than under more traditional plans.
Tech workers can be a little obsessed ;)
(obsessive?)
 
Yeah I work from home most of the time. Though that also means my hours are pretty erratic when things need to get done and I don't get to talk to coworkers much
 
Anonymous
Haha. That can be a good thing sometimes. Not everyone likes a long stretch of summer vacation or something like that. I'd prefer 2 workdays followed by a 1 day gap!
 
But it also means I don't sit in traffic every morning!
 
Anonymous
9:06 PM
@danielunderwood That's actually cool....!
 
Anonymous
I need to look for something like that :P
 
I just deal with that by going to work at noon :P
 
Anonymous
I'd go at midnight if possible :)
 
Anonymous
(My most productive time)
 
At some places you could get away with that
 
9:11 PM
Rip Burt Reynolds
 
@Blue I'm actually kind of looking to move to a normal office environment with coworkers I get to interact with. Well that and moving to something that lets me do more with data or math
And I just spent a couple hours fighting a problem that was because a library had a file with the same name in two different directories O.O
 
offices also have the downside that other people are there
dudes i work with are some loud ass people
and not just talking loud: chewing & slurping food loud
 
Anonymous
lol
 
headphones my dude!
 
and even if you tell them that it's not polite to chew loudly or slurp soups/drinks, they still do it
 
9:17 PM
Then jump when someone (or a dog) startles you
 
because they have trained their bodies for so long to eat/drink that way, that they really have to work at fighting it & they just don't GAF
 
Anonymous
@danielunderwood Well, that works if you get a nice set of co-workers in the first place ;)
 
Anonymous
Some can be annoying, some can be too dumb, some can be too slow, and some can be so smart that you can't keep up pace
 
i do use headphones...and i'm glad that youtube isn't blocked at work so i don't (a) drain my cell phone batteries or (b) burn through data
i also work with some lazy people too...terrible coders in a software dev team is awful to deal with
like we have an entire set of classes for root finding (brent, newton, etc) and some clown decided to forgo using them and just write bisection
hard-coding the tolerances too
 
Anonymous
ewww :P
 
Anonymous
9:22 PM
Don't they get filtered out during the interviews?
 
sadly no
the company is more interested in their math skills than programming skills
and the library is large enough that not everyone knows about every class
so there are some things that are forgivable, but choosing to use bisection when all you have to do is search "root" in VS and find the half-dozen relevant files is just lazy
we also use this crap program called LyX
which is like a lazy man's latex front-end
 
What kind of company are you at?
 
a bank
 
Is it generally like that in finance and banks?
 
i'd wager the terrible programmer bit is true anywhere...but the lyx over latex bit i think is not particularly true
and the loud people thing too; that's probably true anywhere
 
9:31 PM
@KyleKanos ouch
 
Yeah I suppose there are pretty terrible programmers without a math background too
 
now don't get me wrong: i love my job, and i love (most) the people i work with...there's just downsides to actually working with people in an office instead of remotely
 
I'll add to the "physicists could learn some programming" remark I made a couple days ago...some programmers could learn programming too
 
they both could learn basic skills such as common sense
2
 
Just remember that no matter how stupid you think your coworkers are, someone else's are worse. Unless you're that one poor guy
 
Anonymous
9:38 PM
@KyleKanos If you don't mind me asking, why exactly did you shift from physics to software development in a bank? Also, did you find software development more attractive..than say...data science?
 
my phd was in comp astrophysics
so programming was basically what i did for my doctorate
so moving to a software dev job was not particularly difficult
(and when i say "software development for a bank" i really mean quant)
i'd applied to a fair number of data sci jobs, and heard back from a few for interviews, but my programming skills were in solving PDEs and not processing data, so i guess i wasn't highly desirable
 
Anonymous
Thanks, that makes sense :)
 
it also helped that i had a brother who worked as a trader for the company
 
Do most of the people in quant have a phd?
 
we just hired the first MS degrees, but they're not going to do model development; they were hired more for data analysis (of P&L, trade positions, etc) roles
so all of what we call front office quants (people who develop & maintain the model library) have phds in STEM fields
 
9:58 PM
have a guess at where that's from
 
you?
 
nope
not at all
 
surely not me
i think i've rep-capped like 2 times ever
not rennie...pretty sure he rep-caps every day
 
I think you'd've noticed if you hit the rep-cap eight times in ten days
it's not PSE
 
the kid who slept with his advisor's daughter?
 
10:00 PM
@KyleKanos pretty close, but no
it's a kid alright
or a question involving a kid anyways
 
if it's something from parenting.se, i've got no clue...i try to avoid that site
 
I can't recall going "it's plain wrong for that thing to be on HNQ" more strongly than with this one.
 
yeah, i got nothing :/
 
the kid with the car
 
ohh...the jeep
dude who wants to buy a 40k wrangler within a few months
 
10:04 PM
ughhh
 
@KyleKanos yeah, but why does the entirety of SE need to pile on to make fun of the kid?
 
Anonymous
...whom are we talking about?
 
@EmilioPisanty because anonymity makes people mean?
 
Anonymous
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Q: By 18 years of age, I want a brand new car that's $43,668

kyledrake17I'm from Arizona and I will be 18 in 4 months. I make about $1,200 a month from my job. I have $600 in my bank account and I don't plan to spend any of it until I'm 18. I'm looking to get a brand new Jeep Wrangler Rubicon that costs about $43,000. The down payment is 10% (about $5,000) wit...

 
Anonymous
Ah
 
10:06 PM
@KyleKanos partly
 
silly mathjax
 
@KyleKanos ...said the anonymous user to the one with a clear name ;)
 
it's just the combination of a breathtakingly stupid title getting shown to millions of people
it's clickbait except that when you click through what you get is the temptation to leave a mean comment
 
Maybe it's not all people being mean. Maybe people think it needs to be spread because a lot of people have similar thoughts on how they can spend money?
Probably mostly mean though
 
that thing has 64k views. If 1% of those visitors leave a mean comment, then that makes hundreds of comments.
ditto for any other interaction
 
10:10 PM
i'm hoping that i can learn my kids good about money
@ACuriousMind maybe kyle kanos is my real name and the other name i go by is the anonymous one?
 
wait, lemme try something
oooooohh, it works
 
it does appear fine
he's at least not yet on fire
 
Anonymous
Cool
 
It's really confusing when that happens during a conversation where nobody expects it
 
seems dangerous
++
and that was the daughter's doing
 
Anonymous
10:16 PM
<kbd>Ctrl</kbd>
 
Anonymous
<kbd>Ctrl</kbd>
 
Anonymous
Ah, doesn't work here
 
No html for chat
 
who uses html anyway?
 
Not me, I use COBOL :P
 
10:19 PM
you wish
 
@KyleKanos I <sup> text with some frequency if I want it to have a smaller font
I just found out you can nest those, though
I also do explicit <img> tags if I need to resize the image
 
@ACuriousMind to build a website? Brave man!
 
cobol programmers can be useful to some older banks since some code from that era still is used
 
@KyleKanos that's overly kind to LyX
and to its users
 
i think its biggest merit is being able to see tables as they'd appear in a pdf vs the slew of ampersands & hlines
but otherwise it's a hindrance
 
10:26 PM
@danielunderwood so apparently conda comes with dask
but I still get an error when I try to use dask in tpot
no module named dask_ml
 
python incompatibilities!? absurd!
 
@enumaris I saw something about specifically installing the dask-ml package, but that was only in one place from what I remember
I think dask came with a variety of package combinations depending on your use. Maybe conda only includes the core lib?
 
I updated dask via conda and it didn't help
maybe I'll try updating via pip...
 
Anonymous
Does anyone know how the permalink codes for the chat messages are generated? They surely aren't in sequential order (but the first few digits seem to be common)
 
Anonymous
10:33 PM
46622806#46622806
 
But you may also have a tough time if you're using both conda and pip. Not sure how they work with each other
 
Anonymous
Followed by 46622810#46622810
 
@Blue I think it's in sequential order - but across all rooms.
 
Anonymous
That explains it
 
Anonymous
10:35 PM
Cool!
 
Anonymous
So now if I need to view a deleted message I just need to track down its code and add \history to the URL (not an easy task!)
 
I don't think you can see them without RO / mod access in that room...
 
welp, pip says it's updated so I guess I'll have to install something else
@danielunderwood thx for the link :D
 
Anonymous
@Mithrandir SE chat is far from secure. I would be surprised if I couldn't see the history by altering the URL
 
10:41 PM
I need the multi-core to work cus this next pipeline is gonna take forever to optimize...
 
Anonymous
@Mithrandir Ah, I'm impressed. However, I thought this method would work, since I can alter the URL to view all the past messages by a single user (which is normally thought to be a mod/RO-only privilege)
 
That's a nobody privilege - nobody actually has links to see those.
 
Anonymous
Eh? I mean the "recent" tab
 
Anonymous
You can traverse to page 2,3,... and so on
 
Anonymous
By changing the URL
 
Anonymous
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A: Is there some way to see all of a user's messages in a chat room?

Shadow the Welcoming WizardThere is a way to see all messages in all rooms on the same chat server: Go to the user's chat profile, e.g. this one. Click the "recent" link: You will see the last 50 messages by that user, in all rooms, with the room details to the left. Though there is no UI for paging, such pagin...

 
Yeah - changing the URL is the only way to do that.
 
Anonymous
Okay, I thought mods could do that without having to change the URL
 
Anonymous
I see
 
11:10 PM
@Blue I think in general, viewing things which haven't been deleted isn't a mod/RO-only privilege.
 
Anonymous
@DavidZ Yeah, apparently!
 
11:28 PM
@danielunderwood crap, I got other erros still -.- "loops can not be nested below threads"
 
11:42 PM
gonna go back to no parallel processing -.- slooooowwwwww
 
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