The h Bar

Bernardo Meurer

00:02

@0ßelö7 Fantano in full rage mode

0ßelö7

link?

Bernardo Meurer

*rant

@0ßelö7 Any frame in the last Cory Feldman album

Lol, make Cal your avatar

0ßelö7

@BernardoMeurer link?

I will do it

Balarka Sen

@BernardoMeurer that was he mostly drooling off while reviewing in underwears

is that what is called a rage mode?

til

@0ßelö7 make a Filthy Frank avatar

0ßelö7

no, he is disgusting

Balarka Sen

00:07

lol

how about idubbbz in his green gay suit

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind In your answer, can you really state $A=-A^*$? Do you not need to check domains?

ACuriousMind

@0ßelö7 I'm silently assuming a finite-dimensional vector space, of course :P

0ßelö7

God dammit I was hoping you'd figure out the general case :P

I've been working on this for a while

It isn't obvious

I got it for bounded symmetric operators

ACuriousMind

Can I be a pedant and say that if the question states that $\langle \alpha \vert A \vert \alpha \rangle = 0$ for every vector $\lvert \alpha \rangle$, that means that $A$ is everywhere defined, so there are no domain issues?

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind But what is the domain of $A^\dagger$?

Can the domain of $A^\dagger$ be less than the whole thing?

ACuriousMind

00:13

Are there everywhere defined operators whose adjoint is not everywhere defined?

0ßelö7

Idk

ACuriousMind

I feel there shouldn't be

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind Also you assumed a separable Hilbert space

So I can be a pedant too

ACuriousMind

Sure, we're on physics.SE here

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind Ok, so the operator definitely should not be defined everywhere then...

Balarka Sen

00:14

isn't that the Riesz representation theorem

0ßelö7

@BalarkaSen that just says $H^*=H$

heather

@0ßelö7 link - minecraft steve

0ßelö7

@heather too late

Balarka Sen

@0ßelö7 maybe i misremembered

0ßelö7

@BalarkaSen check my account

Balarka Sen

00:16

loool

(y)

0ßelö7

@BalarkaSen Riesz says for $L:H\to \Bbb F$ linear and continuous, there is a $y\in H$ such that $L=\langle y,\cdot\rangle$

Balarka Sen

Feeling a strong 7, light 8 on this

0ßelö7

@BalarkaSen is that a girl crossing her legs?

heather

@0ßelö7 save it for your next one =)

Balarka Sen

@0ßelö7 getcho mind outta gutter boi

that's a thumbs up

0ßelö7

00:19

literally how

Balarka Sen

@0ßelö7 Hm, but adjoint of a linear operator is the same as it's dual after identifying $H$ with $H^*$ using the inner product, right?

In finite dimensions it is. Not sure about infinite

0ßelö7

@BalarkaSen For continuous operators, yes, I think so

The trick here is that it's a possibly unbounded operator, but defined everywhere. Those are rare and very pathological

@ACuriousMind Your proof needs $A$ to be closed.

@ACuriousMind Ah, then use closed graph theorem. You need $A$ bounded.

Sorry. My downvote stands.

ACuriousMind

You downvoted me for giving an answer in accordance with usual practice in physics? Why don't you simply give the "correct" answer yourself if you care so much about this?

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind I don't know the correct answer.

Jasper

00:47

@0ßelö7 OMG, I see your green suit...

heather

@0ßelö7 I don't know who your avatar is, but it's mildly creepy.

0ßelö7

he's a god

Jasper

@heather By the way, is it confirmed that SBA is teaching the calculus class this Saturday?

heather

what with the weather he said there's a chance he won't be able to make it but he hopes he will be able to.

Jasper

I never followed SBA on the site, so I don't know anything about his mathematical abilities.

0ßelö7

00:52

@BernardoMeurer I need linux help in T-30 mins

Bernardo Meurer

@0ßelö7 I'm available

Jasper

@0ßelö7 What distro are you using?

0ßelö7

@Jasper don't know, it's a server

Bernardo Meurer

@0ßelö7 uname -a

0ßelö7

@BernardoMeurer thus far I haven't managed to log on

Bernardo Meurer

00:54

Oh boi

Jasper

@0ßelö7 There was once I edited my .profile file and after that I could not log into the desktop anymore.

Sweeper

01:10

If omni directional speaker is doing 82db at 1 meter sound pressure,what is the sound power in watts?

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind Are you mad at me or do you want to discuss

0ßelö7

01:27

@BernardoMeurer skype

Bernardo Meurer

@0ßelö7 Sec

0ßelö7

01:43

@Jasper ubuntu

dmckee

04:07

@BernardoMeurer I wasn't there and I don't know cmake. But I did think it looked interesting the one time I investigated it.

Bernardo Meurer

04:28

@dmckee OpenCV's CMake use is disgusting

Cows

04:46

Flexing like boss. Coding Branes for the lolz

k out . .

skullpatrol

Cya

uhoh

nytimes.com/video/science/100000005343497/…

2

Happy Birthday Voyager - beautiful 5 minute video by the New York TImes' Dennis Overbye, Jonathan Corum and Jason Drakeford.

Secret

05:18

reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/44sabe/…

physicsforums.com/threads/…

3

A: Is there a mathematical equivalence between gravitational optics and quantum optics or are they mathematically incompatible theories?

Gravitational optics is very different from quantum optics, if by the latter you mean the quantum effects of interaction between light and matter. There are three crucial differences I can think of: We can always detect uniform motion with respect to a medium by a positive result to a Michelson...

Hmm, it seems we cannot just superimpose gravitational waves to create standing waves

The above search is inspired by last night dream, which took place in an alternate version of my 3rd year undergrad GR course. The lecturer talks about a weird equation in general relativity that has a huge summation symbol, and then talked about gravitational waves emitting from a body. After that lecture, I then asked the lecturer whether gravitational standing waves are possible, as a imagine the hypothetical scenario of placing a node at the end of the vertical white line

The weird equation looks roughly like this:

$${\Large \sum}_{\alpha \text{ } \beta}^{\delta} + (forgot) = \frac{(forgot)}{(forgot)}$$

Secret

06:07

[The Cube] Regarding The Cube, I am thinking about an energy level diagram like this

where the infinitely degenerate level is the lowest energy level when the environment is also taken account of

The idea is that if the possible relaxations between energy levels is restricted so that to relax from an excited state, the bottleneck must be passed, then we have a very high entropy high energy system confined in a compact volume

Therefore, as energy is pumped into the system, the lack of direct relaxation pathways to the ground state plus the huge degeneracy at higher energy levels should result in a lot of possible configurations to give the same high energy, thus effectively create an entropy trap to minimise heat loss to surroundings

user228700

06:24

Hi, everyone! :-)

Secret

So in terms of The Cube, it will mean the rotational states had to somehow be protected from relaxation in the form of heat

user228700

::Realises that nobody is around and shuffles off::

John Rennie

@CooperCape are you around?

Secret

::No one's home and you cannot find me::

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H morning :-)

user228700

06:33

@JohnRennie Morning! :-) Say, which is the setup file for installing Office in the pen-drive that you gave me?

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H hi, sorry for the delay - making Mum's morning coffee :-)

user228700

Ah, np :-)

John Rennie

If you look on the pen drive is there a folder called temp or install?

user228700

No, but there is one called "Stuff" which contains another folder named "Office 2k3".

John Rennie

Aha it's the folder called Office2k3. In there is a file called setup.exe. Just run that file and accept all the defaults.

user228700

06:42

OK! (Y)

John Rennie

Once you've completed the setup you need to install Office service pack 3. There is an installer for this in the Stuff directory.

user228700

Installation in progress, thanks! :-)

user228700

@JohnRennie And what is that?

John Rennie

Hang on, I'll dial into my home server to check ...

Office2003SP3-KB923618-FullFile-ENU.exe

skullpatrol

How's the transition to college going?

user228700

06:45

@JohnRennie ...what?

user228700

@skullpatrol Hi! :-) I'll get back to you in a bit, sorry.

skullpatrol

np :-)

Bernardo Meurer

@JohnRennie I've been trying to compile OpenCV with Cuda for over 8 hours now

I want to die

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H that's the installer for Office SP3. It should be in the Stuff directory.

@BernardoMeurer you have my sympathy. Trying to build large libraries on a new platform can be an exercise in frustration :-(

user228700

No, no, I meant to ask what the "Service Pack 3" is.

skullpatrol

06:47

You're not allowed to die in Cali, only multiply @BernardoMeurer

Bernardo Meurer

@JohnRennie This is insane, Intel TBB has an incompatible C++ ABI with GCC 7

I can't handle this anymore

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H MS release service packs to fix bugs people find in Office. Service pack 3 is the latest and greatest of these bug fixes.

See here for what a service pack is

Bernardo Meurer

@Kaumudi.H Use LibreOffice, it's free and gratis!

And you know what, it even kind of works!

John Rennie

LibreOffice is not bad, but Office 2003 is the best office suite I've ever used.

user228700

@JohnRennie Ohh, right. I'm unable to find that, BTW. It looks like everything has installed properly because I am able to access all of the programs; Word, PPT, Excel...

John Rennie

06:49

It combines power and speed and small size. Later versions of Office just added cruft but no significant functionality.

@Kaumudi.H Good :-) The SP installer should be in \Stuff on the USB key ...

user228700

It's not there!

John Rennie

If not I can bung it on my web server.

@Kaumudi.H look on swarchive.ratsauce.co.uk

You do need the service pack ...

@Kaumudi.H there is also an addon that allows Office 2003 to read (but not save) files from later versions of Office, and you probably want this too. The installer for this should also be in \Stuff (but probably isn't if I forgot to include the SP3 installer).

Bernardo Meurer

This is it

I'm moving to a compile-only distro

No more packages

packages break everything

John Rennie

Compile-only distro: download tar, untar, type make, spend next week Googling obscure compile errors.

@Kaumudi.H once you installed SP3 look on my server and download OfficeFileFormatConverters.exe. That's the converter for opening files from later versions of Office.

But NB after installing SP3 you need to reboot before installing the convertors.

user228700

Sorry about the delay; was caught up in a string of reboots.

user228700

07:00

@JohnRennie Downloading now. Thank you :-)

Bernardo Meurer

@JohnRennie It's easier because you can control how things are compiled

Like using -Ofast and fucking it all up :P

-Ofast destroys families

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H BTW let me be the first to publically congratulate on PASSING YOUR DRIVING TEST :-)

Bernardo Meurer

Hurricane Harvey was god compiling rain with -Ofast

@Kaumudi.H Shit, you passed the driving test?

user228700

@JohnRennie Ah, haha, thanks! :-) I received my license number via text message last night!

user228700

@BernardoMeurer Yeah, man!

Bernardo Meurer

07:02

I failed mine so bad now they don't me near anything with wheels anymore

John Rennie

@BernardoMeurer car and motorcycle! She's buying a Harley Davidson now.

Bernardo Meurer

Bah!

I might get my license here, costs 25 bucks

Ooker

Hi @EmilioPisanty, it's great that you want to help me clear out confusions. I think we have a misunderstanding here. When you say "if you really want to "understand"", I've thought you were mentioning at my questions directly to the close voter, not the question in meta. When you mention about my original post, you think that it's a hopeless mess of confusion? Why? Except being off-topic, it seems clear to understand, doesn't it?

user228700

@JohnRennie ^ Lies but yes, car and scooty, without gears.

John Rennie

Scooter only? Not a big motorcycle?

user228700

07:03

@JohnR: Wokay, all installations are complete!

Bernardo Meurer

Okay, I'm downgrading intel-tbb until it works

FFS

user228700

@JohnRennie -_-

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H should be all working fine now

user228700

@JohnRennie And I'll check by finish my ISE project now, which has to be done using PPT.

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H it was a serious question? Are there separate tests for scooters and big motorcycles? In the UK it's just one test to ride any two wheeler.

user228700

07:05

Well, of course! I dunno how to drive motorcycles with gears!

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H Ah Powerpoint. I used to have to do presentations in Powerpoint. And to be fair it's pretty good.

user228700

Yep!

Bernardo Meurer

HA

FIXED IT

COMPATIBLE ABI

I AM THE GOD OF LINUX

2

user228700

@BernardoMeurer Why, what'd you do?

Bernardo Meurer

@Kaumudi.H I'm just joking, I don't know how to drive civilian vehicles, never took a test

user228700

07:07

Ah, OK :-)

Bernardo Meurer

I can pilot a tractor like Schumacher though

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H I'm a bit surprised they expect you to use Powerpoint without supplying you with a copy of the software. Or are you supposed to do it on the college PCs?

user228700

A tractor? Wow, that's an usual skill to have picked up!

Bernardo Meurer

@Kaumudi.H I grew up in a farm dawg, I got some agrarian skills

skullpatrol

Can you milk a cow?

Bernardo Meurer

07:09

Of course

user228700

@JohnRennie I s'pose they'd let us use the computers in the lab for a very limited amount of time but I think that they figure that we have access to Powerpoint softwares in one way or another.

Bernardo Meurer

Milking is easy, but you need practice otherwise your forearms BURN afterwards

It's good workout

user228700

@BernardoMeurer Oh, wow!

Bernardo Meurer

intense

John Rennie

@BernardoMeurer I can fly a glider, if we're boasting about driving (piloting) skills :-)

Bernardo Meurer

07:10

@JohnRennie Gliders don't feed families

2

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H that seems harsh if you can't afford a laptop

user228700

@JohnRennie And they expect us all to own a laptop, of course.

Bernardo Meurer

Crap

I forgot to compile OpenCV with -O3

nooooooo

user228700

OK, I gotta get on this project; otherwise, I will have nothing to show him when college reopens in a few days.

John Rennie

Karma!! That's what you get for rekking other chat room members! :-)

Bernardo Meurer

07:12

Crap, another compilation error

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H Later gator

user228700

::Waves::

skullpatrol

Cya

Bernardo Meurer

OpenCV is huuuuuge

skullpatrol

12 hours ago, by Emilio Pisanty

or as AFT would say, yyyyuuuuuuge =P

Bernardo Meurer

07:28

66%, so far so good

please no more errors

it's been all day

I have the build script now so no one else has to go through this

Every time it hangs for a second my heart skips a beat

70%!

Lol, it's 3.8 GB

user228700

08:10

Ahhh, it seems that I've forgotten how to use PPT :-(

user228700

The last time I used the software was 4 years ago, I believe.

skullpatrol

Wow! Why so long?

Too much time spent on JEE prep?

user228700

Precisely!

Physics Meta

08:37

0

Q: Update to Mathjax 2.7.2 please

Physics.stackexchange currently uses 2.7.1 with the config TeX-AMS_HTML-full which is affected by a visual glitch on both desktop and mobile version of Safari under latest OS, \vec{x} results in the arrow displayed too far to the right (issue #1737). This has been fixed in 2.7.2. Thanks.

Physics Meta

09:15

0

Q: Homework questions on mobile phones

I have never used the app for this site, but if you ask a question on a mobile phone, there is no homework guidance box, as there is on the full site, due to screen size limitations. I think it's a safe asssumption that many students are using their phone to place their homework questions, in wh...

feature-request questions homework

ACuriousMind

09:38

@0ßelö7 I don't really care for the functional analytic technicalities in this case - of course this statement needs some additional assumption to hold rigorously in the infinite-dimensional case, but I'm 99% that that's not what the OP wants to know (and, judging from the comments and other failed attempts, the "simple" version of the statement seems to confuse enough people already :P)

user228700

09:50

Flipping heck:

user228700

facebook.com/drashutosh.mehta/videos/10155524979211280

ACuriousMind

@Kaumudi.H If he keeps speaking at that tempo he's going to suffocate from not breathing enough ;P

@Kaumudi.H You can always use the Open or Libre Office variants if you can't get PPT itself (I don't know how close they are to the original, though, haven't used PPT in ages)

Physics Meta

10:17

0

Q: Chat does not support latex input

The chat does not show LaTeX, not even in the comments which were moved to chat and had working LaTeX in the comments section.

bug chat

Mithrandir24601

11:06

@PhysicsMeta Really? ::sigh::

lılostafa

11:58

Humanity’s message sent to Voyager yesterday: "We offer friendship across the stars...."

Apparently, they want to first make sure the aliens aren't stronger, and only then take over their civilization

user306715

What is the definition of exterior derivative?

Balarka Sen

@0ßelö7 Nice suit.

0ßelö7

@BalarkaSen hm?

Balarka Sen

Was just complimenting your gravatar.

It's your all time best

0ßelö7

Thx

skullpatrol

12:11

Nah, his best imho was the raider head band guy.

0ßelö7

12:28

The whistles go WOOOOOOO

skullpatrol

12:38

YEEAAAHHH!!!

I think it's still on your network profile?

Sir Cumference

Morning

Jaime Gallego

Mornin'

skullpatrol

(semi-removed)

Sir Cumference

@skullpatrol Yeah, one of my extensions broke my chat

Fixed it tho

skullpatrol

coolio

Sir Cumference

12:43

Anything new?

skullpatrol

Football starts tonight.

Sir Cumference

@skullpatrol American football or...?

skullpatrol

NFL, yes.

0ßelö7

13:03

> On loan until 07/21/2018

how???

skullpatrol

Probably a prof.

Emilio Pisanty

13:53

@Qmechanic shouldn't this get migrated to hsm rather than straight-up closure?

0

Q: Why were the SI-unit prefixes chosen to be a multiple power of 3?

Why were the SI unit prefixes, i.e. \begin{align} \mathrm{giga} && 10^9 \\ \mathrm{mega} && 10^6 \\ \mathrm{kilo} && 10^3 \\ \mathrm{milli} && 10^{-3} \\ \mathrm{micro} && 10^{-6} \\ \mathrm{nano} && 10^{-9} \end{align} chosen to be a multiple power of 3? Edit: Although this questio...

conventions notation si-units metrology

skullpatrol

14:05

Agreed.

0ßelö7

@Mithrandir24601 amazon is evil. I bought a book for research and when I went to check on the shipping info, I saw the price doubled

the next person who wants it is screwed

skullpatrol

You could turn around and sell it for triple: screw on to others as amazon would screw on to you :P

Qmechanic

@EmilioPisanty : Possibly. I just feel uneasy about undeleting & migrating a post that OP self-deleted.

Emilio Pisanty

@Qmechanic I think it's quite reasonable to assume OP deleted because they thought it was unwelcome

which it isn't, much

You can leave a comment explaining what's happened, and OP can re-delete on HSM if they want to

Qmechanic

14:21

@EmilioPisanty : Ok. Done.

Emilio Pisanty

@Qmechanic Glad to hear it.

skullpatrol

cool

Emilio Pisanty

@Qmechanic hmmmm, wait. I meant migrate and then comment.

but oh well

skullpatrol

it's the thought that counts :P

Emilio Pisanty

@skullpatrol hmmmm

no, it's the thought and also the action =P

skullpatrol

14:32

Absolutely, pal.

Secret

[The Cube]

9 hours ago, by Secret

I think I will made a PSE later asking about this

But first, I need to figure out how to formulate it

0ßelö7

@BalarkaSen I agree, this is the goat avatar

@ACuriousMind So you're not the least bit curious what the minimal conditions you need for the result to be true are?

Emilio Pisanty

14:51

@Qmechanic seriously, though, is it clear to OP how to proceed if they want the question migrated?

Secret

While a grid of 64 round independent objects can potentially have 64 sets of rotational energy levels, and we also know that the degeneracy of rotational energy levels are $2j+1$

Mithrandir24601

@0ßelö7 What? That's just typical :/

0ßelö7

@Mithrandir24601 thankfully, the book is obscure enough that the price will go down before anyone else tries to buy it lol

Mithrandir24601

15:07

Well... Hopefully... I find it hard to trust big online retailers when it comes to things like this for some reason :P

Secret

the major challenge is how to restrict the possible relaxation pathways so that in order to relax back to the ground state, at least one lower rotational level has to be passed, thus creating the bottleneck shown above

Mithrandir24601

It's like that moment when I first discovered that supermarket fruit/veg and meat doesn't taste as good as the greengrocer's or butcher's but is also more expensive

Secret

Mithrandir, do you know of the types of possible pathways for rotational energy levels to relax?

0ßelö7

@Mithrandir24601 in what world is supermarket stuff more expensive than hipster stuff

Secret

0celo, do you know of any solutions from the top of your head that describe the collision of two gravitational waves?

Since gravitational waves are qudrupolar, nonlinearity will mean they cannot just superimpose on each other, but I am not sure what the collision look like ad whether the result is still wave like

0ßelö7

15:23

No idea, sorry

I would check a gravitational waves book, I don't know much about them

Chris White did...

skullpatrol

:-(

Secret

ok nvm, thanks

Mithrandir24601

15:58

@0ßelö7 Bristol :) Tesco opened a shop on an independent street near where I live and there were riots outside it as a result

I'm really not kidding - I can get the best fish I've ever had at about half the price it would be in a supermarket

Anonymous

@Mithrandir24601 Do you have bazaars in the UK ?

Anonymous

Here people rarely go to supermarkets to buy groceries, meat, fish, fruits, etc :P

Space Otter

I have just read QED-Feynman. What should I read next? anyone?

Anonymous

That sounds like a pop-science book :P

Mithrandir24601

@Blue yeah, although we don't generally call them as such and there can also be open air stalls as well

0ßelö7

16:12

@SpaceOtter Classical Fourier Analysis by Grafakos

CooperCape

@John Rennie (From 9 hours ago oops... ) I am now...

Though I have a feeling I know what this would be about :/

Slereah

16:27

Hello my droogs

Emilio Pisanty

@Slereah hiya

want to do the honours?

0

Q: Dot product formula proof

If two vectors $\vec{A} =A_x\hat{i} + A_y \hat{j} + A_z \hat{k}$ and $\vec{B} =B_x\hat{i} + B_y \hat{j} + B_z \hat{k}$, have angle $\theta$ between them then the dot product (scalar product) of $\vec{A}$ and $\vec{B}$ is $$\vec{A}\cdot\vec{B} = |\vec{A}||\vec{B}|\cos \theta$$ $$\vec{A}\cdot\...

vectors geometry linear-algebra

Slereah

'fraid not

House keeping to do

0ßelö7

@Slereah long time no see

Slereah

Not me, I can see all the time

Well at night I mostly keep my eyes closed

But I could open them any time

0ßelö7

@EmilioPisanty *honors

Slereah

16:35

Fortunately my trials are nearly through

Emilio Pisanty

@0ßelö7 no, I don't think so

Slereah

Only 5 weeks of that dumb web development clas

though at least I have applied my skills to a worthwhile end : samuel-lereah.com/articles/Physics/…

Though beware, guy in San Francisco, I have google analytics on!

I can see your every mooove

GPhys

my QFT and GR courses are using opposite metric conventions rip in pieces

ACuriousMind

@Slereah "site title", what a postmondernist site name :P

0ßelö7

the GR convention is the correct one

Slereah

16:45

@ACuriousMind It goes well with the opening blurb of the front page

0ßelö7

according to @ACuriousMind when we figure out M theory we will know the right signature

it will be the GR one

Slereah

Does M theory even use a signature

0ßelö7

there is a metric

Slereah

I thought string theory did it all in a Riemannian way!

0ßelö7

maybe

Slereah

16:46

I'm still not 100% sure what the site title should be

Not too whacky because it's partly a thing to show off to employer

But still catchy enough

ACuriousMind

@Slereah Hm? The strings move in a 10d Lorentz target spacetime.

Likewise, the branes of M-theory move in a 11d Lorentz target spacetime

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind How are talks even supposed to work. I don't think I can do more than 3 reasonably detailed proofs in an hour

Slereah

I thought the target space wasn't real :p

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind wait, there are two different backgrounds?

so spacetime is 21 dimensional?

ACuriousMind

@0ßelö7 I've never seen a talk about an advanced topic where a "reasonably detailed proof" of anything was given

0ßelö7

16:47

this is getting out of control

ACuriousMind

@0ßelö7 Ehhhh, no

M-theory and the five string theories are dual descriptions, you're not supposed to apply two of them at the same time

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind me neither

I don't understand how talks work

ACuriousMind

They don't.

0ßelö7

I was at a talk yesterday that was supposed to have a detailed proof

it was completely derailed by some professor who didn't believe a calculation

@ACuriousMind actually I take back what I said. It's 50/50

the topology talk had a full proof but it took 45 minutes

ACuriousMind

Basically most talks are just good to take away a bunch of buzzwords you can look up if your interest was aroused by the content

Slereah

16:50

He could have just said to see the proof in Steenrod

ACuriousMind

If the speaker is really good and the prerequisites align with what you know you may even take away some osrt of actual high-level understanding of the topic :P

CooperCape

@ACuriousMind I edited my question that was put on hold but I doubt I put it in a format that was 'on-topic'. If it's unsuitable just close/delete if you can...

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind that's what my advisor said

@ACuriousMind that's what I want to do

But I don't know how to cram all of it in one hour (or multiple hours for that matter)

ACuriousMind

@0ßelö7 That's the ideal, but it's not something you shouild expect from the average talk, imo.

And it also depends on the topic and how well it lends itself to hand-wavy short descriptions that nevertheless convey things like proof sketches

Slereah

That's why it is best to work in humanities

"Well maybe people are bad???"

0ßelö7

16:53

@ACuriousMind I want to give a talk on my GR work first. That can be hand-wavey. But I also want to present my program for Sobolev spaces and elliptic regularity, which is reasonably original. But the devil is in the details there.

ACuriousMind

@CooperCape I'm afraid not, you're still just asking us to check whether or not what you wrote there is correct - such questions are not a good fit for the site, since the potentially correct answer "Yes, that's right" is too short to even submit as an answer

CooperCape

Close it then - is it a bit cheeky to ask if it is? :/

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind Two of the people don't know anything about $\psi$do's, which is an issue.

ACuriousMind

@CooperCape It is already closed - you should be able to delete it yourself if you want to. (And yes, what you wrote there is correct)

CooperCape

Okay - apologies for the inconvenience... and thanks :p

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