The h Bar

user228700

5:00 AM

@SirCumference :-) My classmates are all quite bright and nice. My seniors, however, can be a bit of a pain in the neck.

user228700

(Many students-including me-have been ragged etc.)

ACuriousMind

@Abcd I don't understand that question, either.

user228700

The food is absolutely terrible, might I add.

0ßelö7

@Kaumudi.H Ragged?

ACuriousMind

@0ßelö7 I think the American term might be hazing?

Sir Cumference

5:01 AM

@0ßelö7 Ok forget me

user228700

Ragging

Ragging is a practice similar to hazing in educational institutions. The word is mainly used in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Malaysia. Ragging involves existing students baiting or bullying new students. It often takes a malignant form wherein the newcomers may be subjected to psychological or physical torture. In 2009 the University Grants Commission of India imposed regulations upon Indian universities to help curb ragging, and launched a toll-free 'anti ragging helpline'. == Introduction == Inception of ragging can be pleasant at first, hence the name Mal Samaya. During this week...

ACuriousMind

@SirCumference We'll never forget you <3

user228700

x'D <3

Sir Cumference

:D

Abcd

@ACuriousMind Okay, why does an object want $-mgh$ potential energy and not $+mgh$ potential energy?

Sir Cumference

5:02 AM

@Kaumudi.H Though on a sadder note, sorry to hear that :/

0ßelö7

@SirCumference What?

user228700

@SirCumference Thanks :-) We're getting used to it.

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind They haze random people? That sounds like a good way for someone to get shot.

user228700

@0ßelö7:

user228700

> Gun laws in India are restrictive. The Arms Act of 1959 and the Arms Rules 1962 prohibit the sale, manufacture, possession, acquisition, import, export, and transport of firearms and ammunition unless under a licence, which is difficult to obtain.

Anonymous

5:03 AM

@Kaumudi.H Aren't the seniors not allowed to meet juniors at your college? Or does all this happen in the hostel?

0ßelö7

@Blue ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????‌??????????????????

3

Sir Cumference

@Blue Huh?

0ßelö7

@Kaumudi.H There's Pakistan literally right next door. There are guns.

ACuriousMind

@Abcd Objects don't "want" anything, they're inanimate. Are you asking why objects tend to move towards states where their potential energy is lower? Then that's a result from the definition of potential - we define the potential such that the force points towards lower potentials.

Anonymous

@0ßelö7 @Kaumudi.H had told me that in her college there is rule that for the first 6 months seniors are not allowed to meet juniors in college, clubs etc to prevent ragging

0ßelö7

5:05 AM

@Blue ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

user228700

@Blue It's true, freshers do have different timings than seniors but it so happens that they don't care about following this rule very strictly.

0ßelö7

India is literally another planet.

3

Anonymous

@0ßelö7 I found it weird too. In my college there is no such rule at all.

user228700

Yes, to prevent ragging. Last year, a boy needed to undergo surgery, as a direct consequence of having been ragged by a senior.

ACuriousMind

Sep 3 at 22:09, by ACuriousMind

My keyboard has no appropriate key to react to this information.

Sir Cumference

5:06 AM

@Kaumudi.H Dear lord, what kind of hazing -erm, ragging is there?

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind I found one!!

Here is the desired key: ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Anonymous

And I have hardly been ragged till date in my college. :P People here more interested in protests and stuff. lol

Abcd

@ACuriousMind Yes, that's what I meant. What does "force points towards lower potentials" mean?

user228700

Well, last year, the boy in question was slapped by a senior, right on the eye.

Anonymous

Ragging

Ragging is a practice similar to hazing in educational institutions. The word is mainly used in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Malaysia. Ragging involves existing students baiting or bullying new students. It often takes a malignant form wherein the newcomers may be subjected to psychological or physical torture. In 2009 the University Grants Commission of India imposed regulations upon Indian universities to help curb ragging, and launched a toll-free 'anti ragging helpline'. == Introduction == Inception of ragging can be pleasant at first, hence the name Mal Samaya. During this week...

Anonymous

5:07 AM

A good read for non-Asians ^ :P

0ßelö7

Is my civilized comment still inappropriate?

Sir Cumference

@Kaumudi.H That's not assault?

user228700

Punishments are significantly harsher now. Hence, they "rag" us by behaving rudely and treating us as less than human on every occasion they can chance.

user228700

@SirCumference It is, the boy was arrested, I think. However, he wasn't jailed or anything.

Anonymous

@SirCumference That is. But the cops wouldn't care for such petty stuff even if you file a report.

Anonymous

5:09 AM

It depends actually

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind the starboard is looking pretty bad today :P

John will likely fix it

user228700

Where is @JohnR?

Abcd

@Blue google.co.in/…: ... Is that block like thing just a block or is it something else(2nd image)?

Sir Cumference

@Kaumudi.H Yeah, I'd just keep away from those kinds of people

ACuriousMind

@Abcd It means the vector of force points towards where the potential is lower. This is because we define the potential such that its negative gradient is the force.

0ßelö7

5:10 AM

@Kaumudi.H dead :o

user228700

@0ßelö7 Oh, shut up. He's probably driving back from his Mum's this morning.

Anonymous

@Abcd Looks like a block

user228700

@SirCumference Yep, that is what we are doing.

Sir Cumference

God, I never appreciate my (former) ability to breathe through my nose until I have a cold...

ACuriousMind

> The freshmen may be asked to do silly things like climbing a tree, kissing a tree, proposing to someone from the opposite sex, holding a hand of someone from opposite sex and walking etc.

user228700

5:11 AM

@SirCumference Oh, Ikr? Like I said before, I hope you feel better soon :-(

ACuriousMind

I...uh...*how* old are these students again?

3

Sir Cumference

@Kaumudi.H Thanks a lot :)

user228700

@ACuriousMind Ikr!

user228700

GAH!

Abcd

@ACuriousMind What do you mean by "negative gradient"? (Sorry for disturbing)

Anonymous

5:13 AM

@ACuriousMind 20 year olds with mental maturity of 5 year olds.

ACuriousMind

@Abcd I mean minus the gradient

Sir Cumference

@ACuriousMind That literally sounds like grade school

ACuriousMind

@Blue Is this a loud minority terrorizing the rest or is this socially accepted as a thing you do?

user228700

@ACuriousMind That sort of thing, like I said, is restricted now. Still, it is certainly not a minority, no.

Sir Cumference

Holy crap, you ever know that moment when it hits you, you're in college?

Abcd

5:15 AM

@ACuriousMind Can't understand. Can you explain in simpler terms why every object tends to reach minimum potential energy state?

Sir Cumference

Like almost 19 years of my life have flown by

user228700

They crave the feeling of being the boss, I expect.

Sir Cumference

...I'm not making much sense without sleep

user228700

x'D No, I'm afraid you're not.

0ßelö7

@SirCumference no

Anonymous

5:17 AM

@ACuriousMind It has actually reduced a lot now. Earlier it would be much much more intense, and done by a majority of the senior students. Nowadays it has reduced to perhaps a small group of jobless and sadistic senior students. BTW in my college I haven't noticed any intense ragging till date. It was restricted to proposing someone of the opposite gender during the fresher's ceremony. And no, of course it is not socially accepted.

Sir Cumference

Well, like, we will never be in middle school or high school again...

0ßelö7

@SirCumference thank god

Sir Cumference

@Kaumudi.H Yeah as I thought XD

user228700

@SirCumference And praise the lord that we won't!

0ßelö7

if I have to be subservient to a high school teacher ever again I might explode

user228700

5:18 AM

Middle school was the absolute worst!

Sir Cumference

I feel like the only one who has fond memories of both...

user228700

@SirCumference Oh, wow, you were quite lucky, then!

user228700

I have only one or two flashing moments of joy to remember from both.

Sir Cumference

Dumb dares like the ones ACM mentioned were commonplace and fun in elementary school (although we were far younger)

Anonymous

@SirCumference I have both happy and sad memories from school days. :P I wouldn't want to go back though XD

0ßelö7

5:20 AM

@Blue this

not sad memories though

more like angry ones

Sir Cumference

@Blue I know, but isn't it just kind of surreal that we're not children?

ACuriousMind

@Blue Well, it seems to be "socially accepted" in the sense that it's possible for it to happen at all while others are watching. If someone were to try that here they'd get laughed out of the room.

0ßelö7

@SirCumference if you think that way, you might not be ready for college

enroll in a GED program

Sir Cumference

@0ßelö7 Gah, please, I'm just having my weird 1:20am crisis right now

Anonymous

@ACuriousMind Oh, yes. That's true. :'D

ACuriousMind

5:21 AM

@Abcd I'm afraid I can't. If you don't know what a derivative is, you'll have to take the statement on faith.

Abcd

@ACuriousMind Derivative is the slope of a curve.

ACuriousMind

@SirCumference Who said we're not children?

user228700

@Sir: Hank sums up my own feelings about growing up better than I can:

user228700

Thoughts on Growing up

►

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind -.-

Sir Cumference

5:21 AM

@Abcd No...

ACuriousMind

@Abcd I mean derivative as it is used in the notion of the gradient.

@0ßelö7 ^.^

user228700

@SirCumference You...should probably hit the sack, man :-P GO.

Sir Cumference

@Kaumudi.H Wait what?

ACuriousMind

@SirCumference "hit the sack" is an idiom for "going to sleep".

Sir Cumference

The derivative is the area under the curve

@ACuriousMind IK

ACuriousMind

5:24 AM

@SirCumference What.

user228700

^

Sir Cumference

@ACuriousMind Wow...

user228700

The (definite) integral! That's what you're thinking of!

Sir Cumference

I dunno what's up with my head

0ßelö7

yikes

I don't even need to troll @SirCumference anymore. He just trolls himself.

3

user228700

5:25 AM

@SirCumference :-/ Why can't you go to the doctor any sooner?

Sir Cumference

@Kaumudi.H Doctors aren't open on Sunday, are they?

0ßelö7

@SirCumference those who treat what you have are

user228700

Wtf! What if it's an emergency?

Sir Cumference

@Kaumudi.H well, yes, that would make sense...

ACuriousMind

@SirCumference Right. On Sundays, you just have to die if you're unlucky.

3

0ßelö7

5:26 AM

@ACuriousMind in Germany, that's probably true

user228700

x'D I almost spit out the water I was drinking!

ACuriousMind

@0ßelö7 We don't get sick on Sundays, that would be inefficient.

Anonymous

@SirCumference Dude, just go to a nearby hospital if there's an emergency. They should help you out. Hospitals are supposed to have emergency wings.

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind when is getting sick ever efficient?

ACuriousMind

@Blue Well, to be fair, "I'm very tired" is not really an emergency.

Sir Cumference

5:28 AM

@Blue I'm not going to wait 2 hours with people who have much more important problems

user228700

@Sir: Go the F*k to Sleep _/\_

ACuriousMind

It is something a sleep specialist should look at, though

Anonymous

I see. I didn't know what health issues SirC is facing.

Sir Cumference

Jul 15 at 7:17, by Sir Cumference

btw samuel l jackson is scaring me

...

user228700

x'D Yes, I remember.

Abcd

5:29 AM

@ACuriousMind What should I do now? How can physics continue without understanding how potential energy works?

Anonymous

Well, that's one of the reasons I always take the personal phone numbers of doctors. In case of emergency I directly meet them at their house. Lucky that lot of docs live near my house. :P

user228700

"All the kids from daycare are in dreamland.
The froggy has made its last leap.
Hell no, you can't go to the bathroom,
you know where you can go? The eff to sleep!"

0ßelö7

@Blue ????????????????????????????????????????

there is a Curb episode about this

that is completely and utterly socially unacceptable

Anonymous

@0ßelö7 Even this is an alien concept for you? :P

Anonymous

It's quite acceptable to visit docs at their home (obviously after giving them a call) over here.

0ßelö7

5:34 AM

Having the personal number of a doctor and then going to their house?

@ACuriousMind agree with me

ACuriousMind

@Abcd I'm afraid I don't know what you want - at your level, there simply is no good explanation of why things move towards lower potential energy, since that requires the notion of the gradient and thinking carefully about how we define "potential" in the first place. So you'll have to take the idea that things move towards lower potential energy as an axiom.

When you learn more maths and physics, it will become a derived statement, but it will rest on other statement you have to "just believe", i.e. other axioms. That's how it works, there's nothing inherently worrisome about it.

user228700

Ah, more adulting to do! Must set up Net Banking for my debit card. Toodles! @Sir: Get some sleep man, really. Visit the doctor as soon as possible.

Sir Cumference

@Kaumudi.H Imma try. 'Night

ACuriousMind

"toodles" always gives me this impression of @Kaumudi.H as a middle-aged British woman :P

2

0ßelö7

India $\cong$ UK

ACuriousMind

5:36 AM

@Blue Yeah, that's a pretty alien concept in most Western countries, I'd say.

Bernardo Meurer

@ACuriousMind Do you know at what amperage do the high-voltage powerlines run at?

I'm talking 110Kv and above

@0ßelö7 You too

ACuriousMind

I have no idea and I'm scared why you want to know.

4

0ßelö7

@BernardoMeurer ask my brother

Bernardo Meurer

@0ßelö7 Ask him for me

@ACuriousMind It's purely theoretical

0ßelö7

he's probably asleep

Bernardo Meurer

5:38 AM

Please use your google-foo I couldn't find it

ACuriousMind

@BernardoMeurer The amperage would vary rather significantly with the load, wouldn't it?

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind thx

Abcd

@ACuriousMind Walter Lewin in one of his lectures said that there's no derivation of $F= ma$. Was he correct? Well, I have seen it's derivation in school books.

ACuriousMind

I.e. the most you should find are specifications for the maximal current.

Anonymous

@BernardoMeurer Use $V=IR$ and $R=\rho \frac{l}{a}$. Transmission lines are usually high voltage low current carriers.

ACuriousMind

5:40 AM

@Abcd Whenever someone claims that there is (or is not) a derivation of something, you must always ask: From which assumptions?

Anonymous

Electric power transmission

Electric power transmission is the bulk movement of electrical energy from a generating site, such as a power plant, to an electrical substation. The interconnected lines which facilitate this movement are known as a transmission network. This is distinct from the local wiring between high-voltage substations and customers, which is typically referred to as electric power distribution. The combined transmission and distribution network is known as the "power grid" in North America, or just "the grid". In the United Kingdom, India, Malaysia and New Zealand, the network is known as the "National...

Bernardo Meurer

@ACuriousMind I'm trying to prove to my housemate that you can't just put high voltage transformers underground

Because they dissipate too much heat

Anonymous

You can easily find $\rho$ for aluminium or copper.

ACuriousMind

It's meaningless to say "X can't be derived" unless you state what you want to derive it from.

Bernardo Meurer

so I'm trying to figure out the wattage going on there

Also, I wonder what's the efficiency on those transformers

Anonymous

5:41 AM

@BernardoMeurer You'll all the information you need from the wiki article I linked.

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind from which assumptions can you derive that? The answer cannot contain $\delta S=0$.

Abcd

@ACuriousMind What do you mean? I think it's impossible to derive it without the assumption that proportionality constant $k=1$.

Bernardo Meurer

@Blue I'm too lazy to work on the math

He already gave up and accepted I'm right

Anonymous

@BernardoMeurer Same here. :)

Anonymous

Current depends on the resistance of the wire, given you know the voltage.

Bernardo Meurer

5:44 AM

I'm bored

ACuriousMind

@0ßelö7 Well, I know none.

Bernardo Meurer

I'm going to install Linux with a custom kernel

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind so for Abcd's purpose, the answer is "correct"

ACuriousMind

@Abcd I mean that you must state what you want to start from when you set out to derive something. Usually, $F=ma$ is itself taken as the starting point for derivations in Newtonian mechanics, not as something one derives.

@BernardoMeurer I must say, the nightly build really seems to be noticeably faster. Thanks for the tip!

Abcd

@ACuriousMind Okay, I was asking about the proof of $F= ma$. Looks like there's no proof for it.

0ßelö7

5:48 AM

@ACuriousMind What are you doing that you notice the speed of your browser?

Bernardo Meurer

@ACuriousMind You're welcome!

I was just amazed when I started using it

@0ßelö7 Try nightly

0ßelö7

link

Anonymous

$F=ma$ is derived from $F=\frac{dp}{dt}$. But $\frac{dp}{dt}$ is more of a definition for force.

Bernardo Meurer

mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop

Abcd

@Blue You can't put an equality sin without assuming that proportionality constant $k=1$

$F \alpha \dfrac{dp}{dt}$ so you can't say $F= \dfrac{dp}{dt}$ @Blue

ACuriousMind

5:51 AM

@0ßelö7 The pages load faster. That delay where the browser is organizing the page is just a liiiitle bit shorter

Anonymous

@Abcd Here we are defining force to be $\frac{dp}{dt}$. No assumptions there.

0ßelö7

I can't turn on chatjax

also the font is different

ACuriousMind

@Blue Well, applying $\dot{p} = ma$ doesn't strike me as much of a derivation

Abcd

@ACuriousMind what is $p$?

0ßelö7

where are the bookmarks

I feel like an old man

ACuriousMind

5:53 AM

You define momentum to be $p=mv$. Then you define force to be $F=\dot{p}$, which is by definition equal to $ma$. There's no derivation going on, you're just playing a notational shell game :P

0ßelö7

@ACuriousMind what about nonconstant mass

Anonymous

^

Anonymous

That

Abcd

@Blue What is the "vote allowance" per day?

ACuriousMind

@Abcd How are you defining the "force" $F$ there, if you claim you can only say it's proportional to the change in momentum?

Anonymous

5:54 AM

We take mass as a constant while going from $dp/dt$ to $ma$.

ACuriousMind

@0ßelö7 I assume we're talking about point particles here

0ßelö7

bah

ACuriousMind

But yes, for an object whose mass can conceivably change, you need to assume the mass is constant

0ßelö7

I haven't seen a point particle in the sky

Abcd

@ACuriousMind A force is that physical cause which changes or tends to change, the state of rest, motion, shape or size of a body on which it acts.

@Blue yeah, I know that/

ACuriousMind

5:55 AM

@Abcd That's not a quantitative definition.

How is the symbol $F$ defined when you write $F\propto \dot{p}$?

Abcd

@ACuriousMind what is the p with with a dot above it?

ACuriousMind

It's a shorthand notation for $\mathrm{d}p/\mathrm{d}t$, i.e. the time derivative.

Abcd

@ACuriousMind I can't define it quantitatively.

ACuriousMind

@Abcd So how can you so confidently claim that we can only say $F\propto \dot{p}$ but not $F=\dot{p}$, when the latter, as Blue pointed out, is commonly taken to be the definition of $F$?

0ßelö7

Whew. @Abcd You need to learn calculus.

Abcd

5:59 AM

@0ßelö7 I know the basics of it. Just didn't know that notation which @ACuriousMind used.

@ACuriousMind Okay, I take back my words then :P. @Blue was right.

Then Walter Lewin was wrong @ACuriousMind. There's a proof of $F=ma$ from the definition of force.

0ßelö7

it's hardly a derivation

Secret

Hey guys of functional analysis, I would like to have a look at this thought process about banach space

ACuriousMind

@Abcd You can just as well take $F=ma$ as the definition of force in the case where the mass can't change.

Secret

in Mathematics, 20 mins ago, by Secret

Right, so the question narrows down to that we knew the hamel basis of a sequence space is also uncountable based on the BCT proof we just went through. In order to understand how so in a more "geometric" point of view, I need to know what the points $\ell^p -X$ look like
The following is my initial thought on how I think I can span this space with countably many finite dimensional balls that seemed make sense, but is wrong because it does not agree with the BCT proof
Let $\{X_n\}$ be a collection of finite dimensional subspaces of $\ell^p$ indexed by the natural numbers

Bernardo Meurer

@ACuriousMind Was it you who ran Gentoo?

ACuriousMind

6:05 AM

@BernardoMeurer lol, no, I value my sanity

Bernardo Meurer

You're an Ubuntuer?

Cause that's insanity

ACuriousMind

@BernardoMeurer I'm running Windows because I like to game :P

Bernardo Meurer

Jesus

Have mercy on your soul

0ßelö7

what is wrong with Windows

ACuriousMind

@0ßelö7 I think the answer will involve the word "proprietary" and "malware".

Bernardo Meurer

6:07 AM

It's proprietary malware

@ACuriousMind Precisely

0ßelö7

I will never understand the open source craze

Bernardo Meurer

Me neither

It's all about Free Software

Free as in freedom

0ßelö7

oh my god

I thought we were done with this

Bernardo Meurer

You started it

Balarka Sen

did i miss something

i have come back to chew more bubblegum and kick more ass

0ßelö7

6:09 AM

look at the star board

Bernardo Meurer

@BalarkaSen Depends, are you running Proprietary Malware?

Balarka Sen

I am the very model of proprietary malware bruh

come at me

don't tempt me; i'll spam you with Filthy Frank videos

Bernardo Meurer

Maybe I should move to Gentoo

Or Slackware

Nah, Gentoo

Balarka Sen

@ACuriousMind The Moore method is what extreme sadomasochistic groups of professors and students use to teach and learn math in classes

I love it

0ßelö7

not surprised

my advisor would do that if he had his way

Bernardo Meurer

6:15 AM

@0ßelö7 How do you like Fortran?

0ßelö7

I kind of passed out in the last class

Bernardo Meurer

Lol

Watch out, Fortran is hard

and I do not know it, so I cannot help you

0ßelö7

@BernardoMeurer that class won't give me troubles

Balarka Sen

I guess I will either learn math, play undertale, or plug in a 10 hour loop of epic sax guy as ambient music and sleep on it

Bernardo Meurer

6:38 AM

Alright, going to go reinstall Linux

See you all in a couple hours

Wish me luck

Qmechanic

7:15 AM

@EmilioPisanty : I'm not going to migrate an OP-deleted question without OP's explicit consent. OP has had plenty of time now. If you (or anybody else?) want to ask it on History of Science and Mathematics, it is fair game.

Mithrandir24601

7:58 AM

@BernardoMeurer It's Linux - why do you need luck?

Anonymous

8:27 AM

0

Q: Pressure vs density g5sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss 4dddddddddddddddddddd

what is the relationship between pressure and density. And which mathematical model can we use to describe this relationship perfectly.

pressure

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H in my car driving back to Chester!

Prathyush Poduval

8:48 AM

@Blue What is that title!

Bernardo Meurer

9:04 AM

@Mithrandir24601 Spoken like someone who doesn't have LUKS set up :P

Also, compiling the kernel is a bit of a PITA

Sir Cumference

9:15 AM

Hi, again

Secret

0celo, can you help me on some functional analysis thought process? I have a construction by partitioning the natural numbers into disjoint sets of 3 elements, use them as index sets to label subspaces in sequence space $\ell^p$. Naively it might seemed the union of all of these should give the sequence space itself, but that will contradict with Baire Category Theoem. Therefore what does this union $X$ miss?

Details:

Let $\{X_n\}$ be a collection of finite dimensional subspaces of $\ell^p$ indexed by the natural numbers
The components of each $a\in \ell^p$ can likewise be given as $a_i$ for $i \in \Bbb{N}$
Now construct $\{X_n\}$ as follows:
For $e_i$ basis vectors in each $X_n$:
Let $X_1 = \text{span}(e_1,e_2,e_3)$
Let $X_2 = \text{span}(e_4,e_5,e_6)$
Let $X_3 = \text{span}(e_7,e_8,e_9)$
...
Let $X_n = \text{span}(e_n,e_{n+1},e_{n+2}), n \in \Bbb{N}$
Thus $X = \bigcup_{n\in \Bbb{N}} X_n$
Yet by BCT, $X \subset \ell^p$, therefore what do the missing elements look like?

The reason that it disagree with BCT is because a hamel basis for any infinite dimensional vector space must be uncountable, but $X$ is countable by construction. However I have trouble figuring out what elements in $\ell^p$ $X$ will miss

John Rennie

9:39 AM

Frighteningly prescient :-)

Anonymous

@JohnRennie Mahatma Gandalf XD

user228700

@JohnR: Hi! Are you back home?

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H I am! I got back a couple of hours ago.

user228700

Nice! :-) How was the drive back?

John Rennie

A nice drive. Very quiet and no holdups.

user228700

9:49 AM

Good :-) Did you bring back packets and packets of fudge, as planned?

John Rennie

Only one packet of fudge survived to take the journey back to Chester. That packet of fudge is facing imminent consumption!

user228700

Hehe, nice! The packet of cookies in my pocket is facing imminent consumption too!

John Rennie

Is the chocolate cake all gone? :-)

user228700

Oh, of course! What, are you kidding me? :-)

John Rennie

:-)

user228700

9:52 AM

Oh, this may not be as exciting to you as it is to me but do look:

John Rennie

My Mum's friend gave me a box of chocolates for fixing her laptop, so I have chocolates as well as fudge to eat after lunch today.

user228700

AHHH!

user228700

Wine and chocolate?! She sounds like a lovely person! :-)

user228700

instagram.com/p/BYt3g4fAZsG/…

John Rennie

John Green's new book?

user228700

9:53 AM

Click the white arrow on the right side of the image to reveal yet another image, which contains the source of my excitement.

John Rennie

I don't get it. An embossed picture of some form of reptile?

user228700

Dyou remember the first scavenger hunt that he made for us?

user228700

Jan 25 at 11:13, by John Rennie

How did you work out the password? Tuatara?

John Rennie

Ah it's a picture of a tuatara. I'm still not sure why that's a reason for excitement.

user228700

The first scavenger hunt that he made for us.

John Rennie

9:56 AM

Published October 10th according to Amazon. Are you going to pre-order it?

user228700

@JohnRennie I've already done it! :-)

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H Aha! :-)

user228700

It's exciting because he included the adventure that he made for us within the book itself, he has fully acknowledged the role that our community played in the completion of the book. In the vaguest sense, we participated in the making of that piece of art.

John Rennie

I must admit I've never experienced that.

The sort of books I read don't usually go in for the fan community thing.

user228700

Ah, right, right.

user228700

10:01 AM

I've ordered the hardcover so I shall have it in my hands not long from now! :-)

Anonymous

@Kaumudi.H Wow. How did you participate ?

user228700

@Blue For a few weeks, yes :-) After that, JEE completely engulfed my whole existence (as opposed to 90%) and I couldn't continue.

Anonymous

@Kaumudi.H I was asking how did you participate :P

Anonymous

@Kaumudi.H Sounds cool

user228700

Ah, I'm sorry, I didn't notice the how :-P

user228700

10:07 AM

I still visit the community from time to time. I've made good-ish friends over there too! :-) One of them went on to become friends with another friend of mine at IISER, Pune, after he joined this year.

user228700

@Blue Well, a bunch of us noticed subtle hints in the video and asked about it in the comments. There, John responded and then, we found a forum, we created a discord chat server...

Anonymous

@Kaumudi.H Oh! Which forum?

user228700

A forum dedicated to the scavenger hunt. I forget its name. Besides, it's password protected :-)

Anonymous

@Kaumudi.H I see. :)

user228700

@JohnR: This picture should explain my excitement:

user228700

10:11 AM