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1:02 PM
@Koolman Aha. Nowhere in the link does it say your answer doesn't match (or, well, it's information buried in the comments). Also you already have an answer that says that your result is correct and the "given" answer wrong. Again, what's your question?
 
@ACuriousMind I just want to confirm it one more time . May be Sammy and I have missed something .
 
@Koolman See, would it have been so difficult to say that from the start instead of just pasting the link in here? If you want people to help you, you should make it clear to them what you actually want.
 
@Koolman 40 is the right answer. I am sure
Sammy's answer is correct
and yours too
 
@ACuriousMind Sorry , it will not happen again
@anonymous thank you
 
1:27 PM
You should try to be a bit more polite my friend :-)
 
@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ can you please tell me in which way do you think I am aggressive
@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ i don't want to be rude or aggresive
 
I know it's tough when the book makes a mistake in the answer.
 
Yeah
 
Is this a well known textbook?
 
No
 
1:32 PM
There you go.
 
@ACuriousMind what the hell is functorial quantum field theory
 
@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ ??
 
Well known textbooks have less typos.
None of them are perfect.
 
Yes , but few times I got the answer which does not match . But later I get to know I have made a conceptual mistake
For this book
 
ncatlabs have a lot of info about FQFT, which I currently don't have the background to understand as my category theory is preliminary
 
1:37 PM
Use a back up textbook @Koolman
 
@Slereah Viewing QFT as a functor from cobordisms to vector spaces. Basically, you think of a "spacetime" (such as a cylinder, a pair of pants, or some other manifold with boundary that you get when you "cut off" a spacetime at times $-T$ and $T$) as a morphism between the past and the future boundaries. The FQFT assigns a Hilbert space to each time slice and a partition function/propagator to the morphism.
 
I would find it
 
can I ask questions here ?
 
is that assuming a spacelike hypersurface for the cutoff?
 
1:39 PM
@Slereah I think we usually formulate those FQFTs in the Euclidean setting so we don't have to worry about that ;)
 
I think "euclidian setting" sounds like a lot of worries to me!
At least if you do it in curved space
 
Have you looked in the library @Koolman?
 
Well, since I haven't really seen anyone use the FQFT framework for something other than TQFTs, it doesn't really matter to begin with...
(I haven't particularly followed the FQFT developments though)
 
Alrighty then
Better stick with AQFT then
 
@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ yeah I have one more book whose solution is uploaded
But I have almost completed it
 
1:42 PM
Try a real library.
 
It is far away from my home
 
I mean, cobordisms are usually a topological construction. Having to care about them being endowed with metrics sounds a bit annoying to me - usually you declare homotopic cobordisms to be equivalent, and I fear that viewing them as Riemanniam manifolds destroys some nice properties. I'm just rambling, though
 
If I got time , I will definitely visit there
 
There are cobordism in GR!
 
1:46 PM
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...because the effect is large? or because it is drug related?
 
one thing that bothers me a bit about QFT "axiomatizations" is that a lot of them are just bare minimum conditions for a theory to be a QFT
And they don't really bother with dynamics and such
 
@ACuriousMind Not declaring homotopy equivalent rel boundary cobordisms to be equivalent is where Lurie's whole $\infty$-theory arises from. Instead you declare cobordant cobordisms (those are manifolds with corners) to be 2-morphisms, and cobordant cobordisms between cobordisms to be 3-morphisms and so on and so on
I didn't know people actually studies cobordisms in the Riemannian category
 
@BalarkaSen Ah, that's what "extended TQFTs" are.
 
Right
 
Still a TQFT though, no metrics in sight
 
1:48 PM
Why do you think cobordisms with metrics are a bad thing to study? I don't know, so just askin'
 
@Slereah Well, it's hard enough to show that "minimum" for the "actual QFTs" we have!
 
hello.
 
How would you know what axioms to impose on the dynamics if you don't have anything to model them after?
 
@ACuriousMind I get the feeling that a lot of those axiom systems are also for QFTs we don't have
Like can't we at least define the CCR and the Hamiltonian
I know some theories don't have them, but you know
it would be nice
most theories do
 
1:53 PM
Michelle or Melania? <- just to make sure, is this referencing Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Trump (asking which is better)?
 
lol. I don't think that's a fair question - Mrs. Obama was in office for 8 years; Mrs. Trump for two weeks.
 
@BalarkaSen Not "bad" as such, just not as nicely behaved. The problem with formalizing non-topological QFTs as FQFTs is, I think, that we can't actually write down the functor since the path integral is ill-defined.
@Slereah What do the CCR matter? I think one lesson from Haag's theorem is that the CCR are not all that fundamental as they are in QM
 
David Z or Ron Maimon? - I have a feeling this one has some significant history I don't know.
 
And since you're always going on about curved spaces and whatnot, "the Hamiltonian" is also an ill-defined or at least non-covariant notion.
 
1:57 PM
Not being covariant isn't much of a problem
 
@heather is this a word game?
 
In the end you still have to define it except implicitely anyway
 
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MostafaEinstein or Bohr? Harvard or MIT? Michelle or Melania? Tesla or Edison? Ubuntu or Fedora? Heisenberg or Schrödinger? Dems or Repubs? Strings or loops? Socialism or Capitalism? Frequency or time? Trump or Hitler? David Z or Ron Maimon?

@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ ^
 
The constructions of free scalar fields are always those big list of field properties that are just exactly that
 
I see @heather :-)
 
1:58 PM
@heather lol, I'd advise you to not answer those questions unless you want to start several holy wars at once :P
 
at least no one's done "vim or emacs?" yet.
 
Unholy wars too :P
 
@ACuriousMind oh, I'm definitely not answering some of them.
 
the worst part is probably the property of the propagator
 
2:00 PM
I'm not answering Kenshin's question.
 
Among the list of properties is $[\phi(x), \phi(y)] = D(x,y)$
As a fundamental property that seems odd
 
@heather @heather trump or Hitler, lol
 
I mean, Hitler's clearly worse than Trump. I hate questions like that - we have to be reasonable about the situation at some point =P
 
2:02 PM
@Slereah Personally, I've come to think that the immense difficulty we have in formalizing QFT is that it really isn't a fundamental theory, just an impressingly efficient effective one.
 
@ACuriousMind True, but I also think that AQFT isn't gonna be the fundamental theory either
So I'm not sure there's a lot of use in pretending it's gonna be some general theory
Fundamental theory is gonna be some quantum gravity shenanigan
A theory so awful that no calculations will be possible
 
What I mean is that we're looking at some funny limit of a theory that might be axiomatizable more easily. It's not evident that trying to formalize such a limit is useful
 
Only one way to find out I say
I get the feeling that people are a bit too quick to dismiss experimental aspects for quantum gravity
there's this general notion among a lot of people that it will not possible to check for a long time
I'm not sure if that's a very good attitude
The idea that we need energies around Planck to check for it is a bit naive
Since quantum gravity effects will happen in all processes
Just with varying degrees of smallness
 
In particular, trying to formalize it on curved space looks like an error. If we're doing effective theory anyway, we might as well view gravity as a field theory instead of trying to shoehorn the full non-perturbative aspect of gravity into the effective framework of QFT. I view any theory that treats gravity as ultimately "special" with suspicion.
 
that is fine too in my opinion
 
2:09 PM
@Slereah Well, has anyone made a plausible low-energy prediction for any QG effect?
 
Define "plausible"
 
In principle accessible to experiment and derived from a non-crackpot theory of QG
 
Not so far as I know, no!
But I think the way forward is probably more sensitive equipment and not bigger colliders
 
Then that looks like a pretty good reason for people to dismiss experimental aspects so far, no?
 
Is it better to have a background dependent or background independent QG?
 
2:11 PM
Define "better"
 
@Slereah Yeah, but you need predictions to know what equipment to make more sensitive :P
 
I do wonder if there's any good predictions involving effects in neutron stars
I'm guessing that's probably the best place to check for such effects
 
Define "define."
 
I am not sure, there seemed to be a lot of discussion about spacetime being emergent from information or quantum effects
 
2:13 PM
there's plenty of background independant and dependant QG
The real test of which will just be experimental evidence
Or not, if it turns out both descriptions work
 
regarding experiments, I guess the bose condensate test on the equivalence principle that is recently being sent to space (or is going to),and the gravitational wave astronomy seemed to be the current few experiments foreseeable in the near future (within 10-20 years) on test of QG
 
then again
 
I'm pretty sure any experiment in the low end of quantum gravity will mostly give the same results for all theories
It's all gonna be tree level shit
Now that's how you write the Haag axioms
Write them down first and only then define what that means
Oh wait, I think the hamiltonian is actually kind of in Haag?
The spectrum condition
It doesn't seem to be in all axiom sets, though
 
@ACuriousMind Have people tried to axiomatize ST?
 
2:26 PM
You fool
Don't ask that question
He will only laugh
IIRC that's what M theory is supposed to be but it is a mystery
Apparently Haag for GR is all about the globally hyperbolic neighbourhood
 
@0celo7 That's a difficult question since it's not clear what exactly we're aiming to axiomatize there. Before the superstring revolutions, people would have just said "2d sCFTs + string partition function", but now that we suspect branes should be treated as dynamical objects in their own rights it's not clear what exactly our starting point should be.
One attempt I see would be to develop the abstract theory of the GS action functional axiomatically, then the brane scan yields all "allowed" objects. However, as for the "dynamics", I'm not sure what one would really look at, since we usually only look at them in some QFT or even classical limit
 
That paper writes $\sqrt{-g}$ as $|\det g|^{\frac{1}{2}}$
What a wordy sod
also category theory seems to be big in using Fraktur
Which I do not appreciate
 
2:43 PM
@ACuriousMind Brane scan?
Is that a pun?
 
@0celo7 Possibly, but it's also an actual term for the procedure to find what kind of branes exist in which dimensions
 
Probably a pun too
Physicists love brane puns
Cf also p branes
 
3:00 PM
@ACuriousMind Fair enough. I don't actually know what FQFT's are
@ACuriousMind "Holy Peter holy Allen holy Solomon holy Lucien holy Kerouac holy Huncke holy Burroughs holy Cassady holy the unknown buggered and suffering beggars holy the hideous human angels!"
I guess I have quoted that before...
 
3:29 PM
Hi,why that line is not straight?
 
not to scale
 
...what kind of diagram is that? "heat" is a measure of energy exchanged between two systems, not an intrinsic property of a single system.
 
there is a phase change going on
 
Exactly^
 
the part from ice to water is much much shorter
the part from water to steam is very long
 
3:34 PM
So? The diagram should still read something like "internal energy", not "heat". Careless use of the notion of "heat" - which really is a property of a thermodynamic process and not of a state - is precisely the reason it's so confusing to many
 
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@ACuriousMind OK,it some mistake there,but why isn't at phase change of liquid - gas temperature is not constant?
 
@Fawad /\/ means piece missing, right?
 
@skillpatrol no,suddenly temperature increased,then decreased,then becomes constant
 
are you sure?
 
3:41 PM
@ACuriousMind agreed; however in this case it's actually "enthalpy" not "internal energy" (in view of the 22.6E5 J/kg for evaporation)
 
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Too classical?
 
@Loong Ah, yes, you're right
@Fawad No idea, haven't seen that in any diagram before. Where did yo get that from?
 
"specific enthalpy" to be precise
 
540kcal/kg
 
@ACuriousMind it's in my (ncert) text book
 
3:44 PM
I strongly suspect /\/ is a scale break, but we cannot rule out the possibility that the author really meant a bump in the temperature
 
@Fawad physical chemistry?
 
Indicating the scale break on the graph but not on the axes would be a strange design choice, but I'm willing to expect anything from these textbooks.
 
but such a bump is impossible in most liquid to gas transitions
 
@skillpatrol thermal properties of matter
 
@Secret boiling delay ;-)
 
3:46 PM
@Loong in the middle of the graph really?, and then drop again, that's some kind of hysteresis going on there if it is a real bump
 
@Fawad ask the author
by email
 
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Q: Temperature versus heat for water

user102526What does the kink(abrupt rise and fall) in region of phase change from liquid to vapour state in the following graph indicate? Does it indicate that temperature rise and fall abruptly during phase change(boiling)? I searched about it on internet but cant get any clue!

 
@Fawad Whenever there is a const. value of y for a large no of input values x, this is a standard procedure to clip those data by showing a kink like that. Otherwise you can't fit the graph in a standard size. This has no physics, its a notation. – Ari Apr 26 '16 at 4:01
^I agree
 
I didn't understand that :(
 
it is missing a part
 
3:53 PM
Then why not at "B" there is a kink?
 
------------------------------------------------(missing)------------------------------
@Fawad look at 771,000 to 3,070,000
 
@Fawad Because there the scale is not broken. If you took a ruler to that diagram and measure how much the "heat" increases per cm, then you'd find that this value is everywhere constant except at part D.
 
@Fawad Kink is used to show that the graph is not drawn to scale at that point or a very large region is shrunk to fit within the diagram. Notice that 771,000<<<<3,070,000. However at B 351,000 is not that much greater than 21,000 that it will not fit within the image
 
Poor symbolism to indicate a broken scale
The usual symbol is -//-
 
Typically one would put a "kink" in the X-axis as well to avoid confusion. This particular graph appears to have a nonlinear X-axis -- not even logarithmic. That means the author needs to be dope-slapped. — Carl Witthoft Apr 26 '16 at 14:15
 
3:57 PM
Yeah, it's a garbage graph either way. Just forget about the kink and move on, @Fawad
 
@Slereah /\/ is common practice in analyticaland physical chemistry graphs, though it is usually marked on the axis, not in the graph
 
OK, thanks
 
@Fawad understand?
 
@skillpatrol somewhat
 
(I am not going to send another ping by editing " analyticaland")
 
3:59 PM
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@Fawad redraw the diagram on graph paper and look at the numbers on the horizontal axis
that may help
 
2 mins ago, by ACuriousMind
Yeah, it's a garbage graph either way. Just forget about the kink and move on, @Fawad
 
@Fawad It's not completely garbage - it is a schematic meant to show a specific point. That means that it correctly conveys the information it was built to show, but there are aspects which you shouldn't pay attention to (including the kink). That said, it doesn't do a good job at distinguishing the two.
 
@EmilioPisanty It also conflates heat and enthalpy as discussed above, so it doesn't actually convey correct information
 
@Fawad diagrams are important to understand in textbooks.
Before moving on.
 
4:05 PM
I think it should be something like this^
 
@skillpatrol You really think the idiosyncratic and bad choice of notation for a scale break on a graph that's not really drawn to scale to begin with is "important to understand"?
 
Yes.
 
@Fawad yep, it should be :)
 
@Fawad what about the origin?
look at the scale
 
@skillpatrol I didn't drew because we are interested in one particular part of graph
 
4:08 PM
look at the big picture
as shown in the book
@Fawad got it?
 
@skillpatrol no,can you explain at once?
 
17 mins ago, by skill patrol
@Fawad redraw the diagram on graph paper and look at the numbers on the horizontal axis
 
so, my dad's running an experiment, and he said that a high energy electron beam had formed and electrons were getting deposited in an interference pattern on the glass viewport. It looked kind of like a rainbow, and he tried to explain why it was a rainbow, but his explanation confused me. I tried looking up interference pattern electron deposition, but all that came up was "thin film interference" ("newton's rings"), which I'm not sure if it's the same thing. any help would be appreciated.
 
@Fawad start at the origin
 
@heather Similar to this?
 
4:19 PM
@heather ask him to explain it again
 
@heather Rainbows are formed mainly when several wavelengths are present
For coherent waves rainbows are not formed
 
I did @skillpatrol and he told me to look it up.
@Secret no, not quite
 
@heather ask him where
 
@anonymous She's not talking about a rainbow from refraction of light, read the question again
 
Ah, electrons
 
4:21 PM
brb
 
how does one form a rainbow with electron beams, unless it means a spectrum of light and dark fringes?
 
Electron interference doesn't form rainbows
Atleast the visible rainbows (if you say so)
I can't comment without knowing the exact setup
 
@heather Let's sort out what exact situation we have here first: Is the "rainbow" a pattern of light and dark, or the actual coloured rainbow pattern?
 
Do you have any pictures of the setup ? @heather
And yeah, see ACM's question ^
 
Also, does this pattern appear on the target of the electron beam or somewhere else?
 
4:25 PM
 
or just forget about it and move on :P
if he's too lazy to explain it
 
Electron diffraction/interference cannot be perceived by the naked eye...they strike some chemical coated plate to generate light patterns
As you can see in the image above
 
i asked my dad what to look up and he said it was thin film interference (thanks @skillpatrol)
 
@heather What? Thin film interference ? I don't see how that is directly related to this situation....
Maybe, you are talking about some specific setup
Which involves thin film interference
Truly speaking the question was very vague :P
 
4:32 PM
sorry.
@ACuriousMind, actually colored rainbow pattern.
 
thin film interference involving electron beams, and generating a colorful rainbow??? I don't see how's that possible
 
@Secret Agreed ^
 
I think your dad need some really heavy explanation on that. It seems to be some kind of highly specific electron beam setup that somehow lead to broadband visible emission
 
I guess it is just a miscommunication
 
he said when I asked him that the electrons are heating up the aluminum and it's depositing itself on the viewport, making a film for light to refract on or something, and then he mentioned a bunch of stuff like Gaussian distribution
 
4:34 PM
Ah I see, that makes sense
 
@heather Aha! That means this hasn't got anything to do with the electrons, but solely with a thin aluminium film and ordinary light.
 
@heather Okay, so it is interference due to light and not electrons
 
yeah, i didn't quite understand that.
i'll read the wiki article now.
 
Watch some youtube videos to learn it faster. It is super easy :)
Good luck
 
@anonymous I've never seen a video explain something faster than a well-written text.
 
4:37 PM
@ACuriousMind I have. Wanna see ? :)
I always watch the videos to get the overview of topics first and then delve in the details from text
 
Alas, this depends on how fast you read. If you're a slow reader, I'll concede a well-made video might be an adequate substitute for concepts that lend themselves well to be visualized.
 
I know a few great channels which are better than any book for basic UG level physics. Well, each one to their own!
For example this (youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYVDsiuOZP5rLezMvUAk6TgZVRBnDhoyp) is a great set of videos
 
5:13 PM
A google doodle which is a challenging game
 
5:43 PM
"We denote the space of compactly supported densities (i.e. compactly supported sections of the determinant bundle)"
whaaat
 
5:56 PM
@Slereah what's confusing?
Do you not know what the determinant bundle is?
 
I do not
 
@Slereah Do you have the book of Bott and Tu?
 
I don't know who that is
 
Only one of the most famous books in geometry
 
Is it related to the bundle of weighted functions Steenrod mentions
 
5:59 PM
not sure
check page 83 of Bott and Tu
 
@Slereah Take the cotangent bundle and take n-th exterior product.
n = dimension of base manifold
 
Oh, just the n-form bundle
 
Where n is the top dimension, yes.
 

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