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19:00
I'm ok to say $T_n|\Psi\rangle = \exp(-i \theta / L_n)|\Psi\rangle$.
Is that correct? (I don't know why there's an $x$ in the denominator of the exponent in your expression)
Oh, sorry, that's meant to be $\mathrm{e}^{-\mathrm{i}(\theta/L)x}$
I forgot you can't see the brackets in my head :P
@ACuriousMind But, you can't have an $x$ in an eigenvalue here, can you?
Neither the operator nor the state depend on $x$.
@DanielSank Note that I wrote $\psi(x)$ in that expression - you hadn't yet decided to go bra-ket
But I thought we were past that - the bra-ket analogon is $\vert u\rangle = \exp(\mathrm{i}(\theta/L)x)\lvert \psi\rangle$.
user54412
@DanielSank Oh. Well you certainly need that convexity in order for left-propagating diffusion to balance rightward advection. You could probably be more specific by noting how the u_x term has to balance the u_xx term.
(sign change because wavefunctions are defined with $\langle x\vert$, not $\vert x \rangle$)
We even checked that that gives back the correct wavefunction
19:07
@ACuriousMind I'm still puzzled. How can an eigenvalue contain an $x$, whether or not we're doing bra-ket or wave function style?
@DanielSank It's not an eigenvalue. That's the definition of $\lvert u \rangle$, we're defining it to be the action of the operator $\exp(\mathrm{i}(\theta/L)x)$ on $\vert \psi \rangle$.
@ACuriousMind Oh! Sorry, total brain meltdown there.
More physically, we are shifting the momenta of the original state by $\theta/L$ to get a state that has 1, and not some phase, as eigenvalue of the translation by $L$.
However, we were talking about $\theta$ which was introduced in the eigenvalue of $|\Psi\rangle$ under $T_n$.
No $|u\rangle$ in sight there.
user54412
@0celo7 proof?
19:11
@DanielSank Yeah, we defined $\lvert u \rangle$ to get rid of the $\theta$ -. we want a periodic wavefunction, so the state we want must have eigenvalue 1 under $T_n$.
ohohohohoh
Right.
$\theta$ came in first, and then we said $|u\rangle = \exp(-ikx)|\Psi\rangle$.
@ChrisWhite sigh
Jul 8 '15 at 20:37, by Chris White
@0celo7 I want to do something like have $F_\infty$ be the derivative of momentum with respect to asymptotic time $t$ rather than the mass's proper time $\tau$. The redshift factor should be $\mathrm{d}\tau/\mathrm{d}t$.
If you did solve it, you didn't explain it very well.
I'll be back in ~30 mins, have to go hunt some food.
@ACuriousMind Good luck.
@ACuriousMind It's dangerous to go alone...
19:14
Give him the sword. Don't give me Nintendo reference blue balls.
@ACuriousMind Take this ::hands a copy of BBS::
If any feral mathematicians come at you, show them this.
They will crumple
@DanielSank So, back to heat flow
One of my physics profs didn't see any reason for it
But he noted that the setup didn't make much sense
@0celo7 It's because you have particle flow.
QED
@DanielSank You're a genius
@0celo7 Correct.
@DanielSank Are you smarter than an octopus
19:21
@0celo7 In ways relevant to human activity, yes.
Are you smarter than me?
@0celo7 I have no way to know that, nor am I sure that's even answerable.
I don't really think smarts is described by an ordered set.
You could have said "yes"
19:46
@DanielSank: Back. So, anything left to say about the Bloch state?
20:11
@ACuriousMind Just got off a train. Allow me to recombobulate.
@ACuriousMind To review:
$T_n = \exp(-i \hat{p} L_n)$
$T_n |\Psi\rangle = \exp(i \theta) |\Psi\rangle$
$|u\rangle = \exp(ikx) |Psi\rangle$
$T_n |u\rangle = \exp(i(k L_n + \theta))|u\rangle$
So, if $\theta = -k L_n$, then $|u\rangle$ is translation invariant.
Hey guys
whats the difference between stat mech and pchem
@user507974 Statistical mechanics is usually the discussion of physical systems where you don't attempt to keep track of all the degrees of freedom.
It's a very general, broad subject.
I don't know what physical chemistry means in terms of a school curriculum.
yea, i could see pchem being a subset of stat mech
but im curious if its something a bit different than that
@user507974 I would guess by the name that physical chemistry means chemistry where you try to use first principles (i.e. physics) to understand the chemistry, i.e. reaction rates, bond lengths, etc.
user54412
^ that's my interpretation too
user54412
20:24
pchem is full of wavefunctions and such, and only really looks at small parts of a system
user54412
in some sense it's the opposite of stat mech -- much of non-pchem chemistry looks at aggregate behavior of many particles
I think physical chemistry is really about modelling the bonds in a molecule quantum-mechanically and such
It's not about applying physics to "chemical reactions" which is probably what made you think it's a subset of statistical mechanics
So, @ACuriousMind, I suppose we've demonstrated that we can pick our eigenstates such that:
$\langle x | \Psi \rangle = \langle x | e^{-ikx} | u \rangle =\cdots$
(Is $\exp(ik\hat{x})$ Hermitian?)
@DanielSank No, unitary
Uh, not it's not... I get it.
Isn't it anti-Hermitian?
Yeah yeah
20:29
$\mathrm{i}x$ is anti-Hermitian, the exponential is not
$\cdots = \exp(-ikx) u(x)$.
Right?
@DanielSank Yepp
Where $k=-\theta/L_n$.
and $\theta$ is... something...
This is kind of odd. I expected $k$ to have to be a reciprocal lattice vector.
Ah, I bet there are conditions on $\theta$ that we didn't mention.
@DanielSank No, the thing is that $k$ and $k+l$ are physically equivalent for $l$ a reciprocal lattice vector (since the associated $\theta$ then differs by $2\pi$).
Ah yes.
So within the first zone, $k$ can be any real number and the eigenvalue of translation of $\Psi$ is $\exp(-k L_n)$.
(translation by $L_n$, of course)
Ok, with this I can probably solve my original question about what happens when there's a momentum "offset".
Thanks, @ACuriousMind.
@skullpetrol Right, because spending several years working on a project with no financial compensation is fun.
So now we only write textbooks to have fun?
I guess that can work.
20:40
@DanielSank my pleasure
@ACuriousMind This might help me understand an interesting process we see in our quantum circuits.
We have a Hamiltonian like this:
$H = \hat{Q}^2/2C - E_J \cos(2\pi \hat{\Phi}/\Phi_0)$
$[\hat{\Phi}, \hat{Q}] = i \hbar$
However, because of real life the $Q^2$ term is $(Q - Q_\text{offset})^2$
and $Q_\text{offset}$ is noisy.
Ok @ACuriousMind here's the real question:
A periodic potential can be written as a Fourier series.
Expressed in the momentum basis, this thing obviously has nonzero matrix elements between states which differ by a reciprocal lattice vector.
What the hell does that mean?
@DanielSank How is that relevant? (also, the Fourier series of the cosine is rather obvious :P)
@DanielSank What do you mean? $\langle k \vert U(t)\vert k+K\rangle\neq 0$ for $K$ reciprocal?
@ACuriousMind Yes.
@ACuriousMind Indeed it is.
20:56
@DanielSank Okay, why do you think there's some "meaning" to that? I don't see what's strange about that
So there's a non-zero probability that stuff evolves out of the Brillouin zone. Do you have a reason to expect them to stay inside a priori?
@ACuriousMind I expect energy eigenstates to remain energy eigenstates.
Changing a k vector by a reciprocal vector doesn't actually change the state, right?
@DanielSank Yes, that's a tautology. $\lvert k \rangle$ is not an energy eigenstate, so what's the problem?
@ACuriousMind No problem.
Ok, sorry, I'm really trying to understand why fluctuations in $Q_\text{offset}$ lead to dephasing of our system.
Fluctuations in $Q_\text{offset}$ should be similar to fluctuations in $k$.
Different values of $k$ have different energy differences between the bands in the system, so I can sort of see how fluctuations in $Q_\text{offset}$ sort of lead to fluctuations in the quantum phase of a superposition state, but not really.
@DanielSank Oh, it does! Changing the $k$ in the Bloch state by a reciprocal doesn't do anything, but changing the $k$ of a momentum eigenstate by a reciprocal does change it (the momentum eigenvalue is different!)
@ACuriousMind Ok, sure. Yes, this is what happens in x-ray scattering.
Actually, I think I understand this.
21:02
@DanielSank Sooo...$Q_\text{offset}$ is really $Q_\text{offset}(t)$?
Time-dependent Hamiltonians are ugly
If $Q_\text{offset}$ changes slowly enough, the system stays in the "same" $k$ state
@ACuriousMind Yeah but we're talking about slow fluctuations, i.e. adiabatic.
If $Q_\text{offset}$ fluctuates slowly then we stay in the adiabatically connected $k$-state, and the energy splitting changes, so there's dephasing.
I guess.
I lack your intuition and experience for fluctuating systems, no idea what's happening there
21:29
Why does Susskind say that up and down are orthogonal to each other? I would say that they are opposite. He says it himself when says that measuring up=YES means that down = NO. In the classical world, if I measured x component, I would get information about y only if x and y are not perpendicular. Otherwise they should not correlate. Absolute correlation means that we are on the same axis. How the same axis can be orthogonal?
@ValentinTihomirov They are orthogonal in the sense that the inner product of an up and a down state is zero. It has nothing to do with the geometric meaning of "up" and "down".
But how can they not correlate on the blackboard if they absolutely correlate in the real world?
@ValentinTihomirov What do you mean by "correlate"? States don't correlate, measurement results do.
I see it but I do not understand.
@ValentinTihomirov A state being orthogonal to another means you have zero chance to detect one state as being the other. Is it not obvious that for a state that by definition has definite spin up, you have no chance to detect its spin being down?
21:38
Yes, in this sense it is obvious. It seems that axis are put upside down in QM.
@ValentinTihomirov Uh, no, the axes area not put anywhere. It's that the (Hilbert) space in which the states lie is not our actual space, it is an abstract vector space. Just because in our actual space the vectors that describe up and down are linearly dependent does not mean they have to be in the Hilbert space.
What was on the same axis, eg. up and down, various positions on X-axis, became orthogonal because they are exclusive. Meantime orthogonal things, like x and y, position and momentum, are defined through formerly other axis, which were orthogonal to each other, now can be expressed in terms of up-down axis or X axis.
 
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23:05
anybody here familiar with Chandler's Intro to Stat Mech textbook, theres a bit of notation thats been confusing me
@ACuriousMind thats true, and an interesting way of thinking about them
23:19
@DanielSank Are you around?
23:30
How is it that multiplying a vector by a constant 1 is the same as acting by identity matrix? Is matrix a special case of a real number, is it vice versa or it is just a fluke?
@ValentinTihomirov $\operatorname{id}v=v$. But $v=1\cdot v$. So $\operatorname{id}v=1\cdot v$.
@ValentinTihomirov It's just a consequence of both the identity matrix and the real number 1 being essentially defined by them doing nothing when multiplying them with something. I don't understand why this would make you think that a matrix is a special case of a real number or vice versa (but indeed, you can see every real number as a 1x1 matrix).
Real numbers are a special case of matrices
I wonder how 1x1 matrix can be equal to nxn matrix.
23:36
@ValentinTihomirov what
couldnt you think of a 1x1 matrix as an nxn with all 0s minus the first diagonal term
@ValentinTihomirov Oh, no, that's not what is happening here. Just because the identity matrix and the scalar multiplication with 1 do the same thing that doesn't mean they are equal as objects.
@user507974 no
if the one corresponds to a scalar of a component
@user507974 You can (that is indeed one possible inclusion $\mathbb{R}\to\mathbb{R}^{n\times n}$), but that's not what is going on here (note that this inclusion does not send 1 to the identity)
23:38
oh, there is a lot of discussion to look at to get up to speed on this...
However, what one can say is that you can think of scalar multiplication by a real number as multiplying by the matrix which has this real number as every diagonal entry.
OH, you were talking about scalar multiplication
Everything is a special case of the Meurer conjuncture
herp derp
Both operations do exactly the same, however, this does not mean that the real number is equal to the diagonal matrix.
23:39
misread that
@0celo7 Oi trouble with the wife?
heheh
I'm not married
@0celo7 Women rejoice on that
@BernardMeurer Are you saying they rejoice because he's still single available for marriage or because he hasn't made the life of one of them miserable yet?
Knowing me as you do @ACuriousMind which one would you bet on?
23:45
@ACuriousMind ...
@BernardMeurer I will keep my suspicions to myself :)
Are you going to be even meaner from now on
All I did was ask about one algebra problem...
@0celo7 1. All I did was ask @BernardMeurer a clarifying question :P 2. The point is less that you asked me about algebra and more that you kept bothering me after I explicitly told you I wouldn't say more.
Yeah, and you never did give me an answer!
@ACuriousMind Second one
23:49
@BernardMeurer oh screw you
@0celo7 Rebecca would be jealous
She wouldn't have to find out...
@ACuriousMind how did you even come up with that second one
@0celo7 What second one?
You mean the not-yet-miserable interpretation?
"Women rejoice on that" just doesn't sound as if it is meant to be taken at face value :P
GREAT headline, Fox...
@ACuriousMind yes
@ACuriousMind ok, but how did you come up with that
It seems like such a leap to me
It honestly just popped into my head - those are the two natural interpretations of that statement to me
23:59
@ACuriousMind hmm
@ACuriousMind Was my proof right :P
Seriously, just drop it

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