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Ballot file contains 651 non-empty ballots.

Counting votes for Physics Stack Exchange Moderator Election 2016 using Scottish STV.
5 candidates running for 2 seats.

R|ACuriousMin|Jim |rob |tpg2114 |Alfred Cent|Exhausted |Surplus |Threshold
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1| 340.00000| 61.00000| 77.00000| 79.00000| 94.00000| 0.00000| 122.00000| 218.00000

Sir Cumference

Oh wow

J. Pak

@tpg2114 I see

Sir Cumference

What program?

tpg2114

So it is the final line

HDE 226868

Don't click on "see full text" if you don't want to know. But congrats to the winners!

@SirCumference OpenSTV; see the election page.

tpg2114

8:12 PM

I demand a full recount. Hanging chads and improper forms and whatnot!

Or I'll just quit and make my own site...

user116211

I KNEW IT!! I WAS RIGHT!!

0celo7

So ACM is a mod?

Jim

Well done to @ACuriousMind and @rob

4

user116211

Wait, what?

user116211

Hmm.

rob

8:14 PM

I'll hold off for "official" results before I react.

user116211

congrats @rob.

Jim

hah! I had the least number of votes

0celo7

Rigged, as suspected.

Jim

I'm happy about this

0celo7

Clearly Jim got the most votes

user116211

8:15 PM

You shot it @ACM (stares at @0celo).

Sir Cumference

Wait, what was the order?

tpg2114

@Jim Yeah, can't say I'm upset either.

Sir Cumference

From most to least votes?

tpg2114

ACM, Rob, Alfred, Me, Jim

Sir Cumference

Oh

0celo7

8:15 PM

Who even is Alfred?

user116211

@0celo7 ;((

HDE 226868

@ACuriousMind by . . . a lot.

A lot a lot.

Over half the total ballots.

user116211

@0celo7, I told you ACM would rock the election.

Jim

Yup

Okay, back to voting how and when I please and using puns to point out obvious answers

user116211

Now all who yelled at him and made nonsense allegations in the nomination page must be dumb and speechless.

tpg2114

8:17 PM

@MAFIA36790 No, they'll claim it was rigged and blah blah

user116211

:(

tpg2114

No conspiracy theorist ever reforms

They just change theories

J. Pak

ACM is a man or woman?

tpg2114

Does it matter?

user116211

@J.Pak He is AI.

Sir Cumference

8:18 PM

@J.Pak ACM is a curious mind

J. Pak

I see

Jim

isn't he Alicia Keyes?

HDE 226868

There should also be more info at elections.stackexchange.com/#physics.stackexchange, once it's updated.

Loong

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Q: 2016 Community Moderator Election Results

Physics's third moderator election has come to a close, the votes have been tallied, and the 2 new moderators are: They'll be joining the existing crew shortly — please thank them for volunteering, and share your assistance and advice with them as they learn the ropes! For details on how th...

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Sir Cumference

@Loong Uh...bit late

Loong

8:20 PM

opavote.org/results/5609110007447552/0

user116211

@Loong, We got the new mods.

tpg2114

Wow, STV voting is weird

Loong

6 rounds

Emilio Pisanty

@tpg2114 I'd quite like to get the gender right on pronouns

HDE 226868

Only 6 rounds? Wow.

Oh, but I suppose with only 5 candidates, it's quicker.

user116211

8:21 PM

ACM and Rob officially get the diamond now.

Jim

I'd be interested in seeing the breakdown of 1st 2nd 3rd choices

rob

@Jim I think that's the raw content of the "download election results" file.

HDE 226868

@MAFIA36790 They have to ~~swear eternal allegiance to Stack Exchange~~ sign the mod agreement first.

Sir Cumference

@HDE226868 Has anyone not?

tpg2114

Congrats @rob and @ACuriousMind

user116211

8:23 PM

@HDE226868 But the diamonds are visible now.

HDE 226868

@SirCumference No idea.

tpg2114

I shall return to lurking on the fluid-dynamics questions

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Emilio Pisanty

Any quick insights on how the "surplus" votes get chosen?

Jim

@rob hmmm, it's not worth downloading a new program just to view them

Sir Cumference

@Jim HDE posted it

user116211

8:24 PM

Anyways, I'm off now; I'll have sweet dreams.

HDE 226868

@SirCumference . . . and it wasn't worth downloading.

@MAFIA36790 Oh, strange. But cool.

rob

@Jim if you're a unix/textfile person, it looks pretty parseable. Data rows start with a 1, end with a zero, and have three other entries which are probably first, second, and third choices.

Sir Cumference

@HDE226868 Well we got the results 7 mins before it was officially released

user218912

back.

user218912

yay

Sir Cumference

8:26 PM

@HDE226868 So you saved us ~420 seconds

user218912

lol

Bernard Meurer

@rob Plz don't ban me

user116211

@BernardMeurer Ask ACM too ;)

Bernard Meurer

How does that voting thing even work? All those rounds and stuff

user218912

or you could ask him to ban you if you're wasting too much time in the chat.

user218912

8:28 PM

I will do that someday.

Sir Cumference

@BernardMeurer Here's a good explanation

The Alternative Vote Explained

►

5 mins

Bernard Meurer

@SirCumference Okay, so it's magic I will never know

5 minutes is too much to understand this

Sir Cumference

It uses the animal kingdom as an example

It's not complicated

HDE 226868

@EmilioPisanty Possibly relevant (see first two answers): meta.stackexchange.com/q/77541/274942

Bernard Meurer

@SirCumference Animals are complicated

user218912

8:30 PM

@SirCumference implying humans aren't animals?

Sir Cumference

@BernardMeurer Fine, here's an explanation. Instead of picking only one candidate, you rank them from most to least favorite.

Physics Meta

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Q: 2016 Community Moderator Election Results

Physics's third moderator election has come to a close, the votes have been tallied, and the 2 new moderators are: They'll be joining the existing crew shortly — please thank them for volunteering, and share your assistance and advice with them as they learn the ropes! For details on how th...

discussion featured election

Emilio Pisanty

@HDE226868 so Meek STV handles fractional votes with impunity?

Sir Cumference

When the election is over, the person in last place is eliminated, and all his votes get added to the candidates who were liked the most

Emilio Pisanty

I guess that's actually pretty cool.

Sir Cumference

8:32 PM

Next round, eliminate most disliked, and transfer votes to most liked

Rinse, repeat

HDE 226868

@EmilioPisanty Nice, huh?

Sir Cumference

If someone has already reached a threshold for amount of votes necessary, then votes get transferred to the second-most-voted candidate

Emilio Pisanty

@HDE226868 Yeah. It feels weird, like real weird. But I guess, why not.

@SirCumference No, that's not correct.

See HDE's link above.

Sir Cumference

@EmilioPisanty Screw it, I'm too lazy to read into it again

Loong

40 users only voted for ACM with no second choice

heather

8:39 PM

@Loong, because ACM will be a great moderator.

to the new moderators

Sir Cumference

So, uh...

what's up?

Hey ACM

ACuriousMind

Heyhey

Sir Cumference

Congrats

user218912

ACM's name is blue :D

Sir Cumference

@ACuriousMind You won by over half the votes o_o

ACuriousMind

8:50 PM

Thanks everyone for the congratulations and support

4

Sir Cumference

@bl00 Oh yeah

Or is it bl00?

heather

@ACuriousMind, congrats!! So awesome you become moderator. You'll be great for the site.

=)

Sir Cumference

^

David Z

@bl00 huh, the team acts quickly

Stack Exchange

David Z has added ACuriousMind to the list of this room's owners.

rob

8:55 PM

So, officially: thanks for your support, everybody, and I'll try to do a good job.

4

Stack Exchange

David Z has added rob to the list of this room's owners.

Sir Cumference

So now it's official

heather

@rob, you'll do a great job. See my comment to ACM, that also applies here. =)

Sir Cumference

Can someone explain to me why @JohnRennie has no diamond next to his name?

David Z

@SirCumference because he's not a moderator

Sir Cumference

8:56 PM

@DavidZ Yes, but he has an italicized name and is a room owner

HDE 226868

@SirCumference Not all ROs are mods. ROs can be added manually by a user with certain access, or automatically by the system.

Sir Cumference

@HDE226868 So does anyone how he hasn't run in any elections so far?

He seems like overkill for the moderator position

He has > 200 rep

Sigh...

David Z

@SirCumference He doesn't want to, last I heard. After all, we don't forcibly nominate other people to be moderators ;-)

Sir Cumference

Huh, that's really bizarre

ACuriousMind

You mean the horse head in my bed wasn't from you?

Sir Cumference

8:59 PM

Considering he moderates the site as it is. 1850 flags...

Qmechanic

9:26 PM

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Q: Why are gauge theories called so?

Why are gauge theories called so? I guessed it was because gauge also means to estimate, so when one is trying to find the gauge theory for such and such interactions one has to estimate what might be the best gauge group for that interaction. Does this make sense?

soft-question terminology gauge-theory history

Off-topic, cf. e.g. this meta post? There doesn't seem to be a gram of physics there.

heather

Does anyone know what the matrix is that represents a controlled pi/2 rotation gate in quantum computing? For that matter, what's the matrix for a pi/2 rotation gate?

@Qmechanic, I think it is off-topic; I voted to close under a custom close reason saying it belongs on history of science/mathematics.

@SirCumference, yes, but he is such an awesome poster, moderating might take up too much of his posting time, if that makes sense. Though I agree with you that he'd be awesome at it. =)

David Z

@heather that's not actually a reason for a question to be off topic, you know. If you think a question belongs on HSM, the "magic" wording to use is "I'm voting to close this question as off topic because it is about history, not physics." (And then you can add something about HSM)

heather

@DavidZ, I edited my comment; I don't know if that reworded the close reason.

David Z

@Qmechanic I'm sort of torn about that. It's a terminology question, in some sense, and I can see an argument for why understanding the meaning of "gauge" is of more than historical relevance. On the other hand, it's a rather weak argument.

@heather I don't think the close reason is actually recorded anywhere other than the comment.

heather

@DavidZ you see it in the close vote review queue as a close reason

David Z

9:37 PM

oh OK. Well, then, at least I don't think it's obvious anywhere other than the comment.

heather

Ok, well I edited that, so all's well.

0celo7

10:06 PM

So who are the mods?

rob

@0celo7 It's ACuriousMind and me. meta.physics.stackexchange.com/questions/9256/…

0celo7

Ok, so the earlier results were accurate.

Congratulations @rob @ACuriousMind

rob

Thanks!

Like I said earlier: I'll try to do a good job.

0celo7

Now ACM has the power to instantly close questions. Wonder how he feels about that.

@ACuriousMind Will you continue to VTC like you used to?

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 I've explicitly said in my questionnaire answers that I will use the unilateral votes more sparingly.

@0celo7 And thanks

0celo7

10:14 PM

@ACuriousMind Ok

@ACuriousMind want to help me with probability :)

ACuriousMind

poker cards again?

0celo7

No, this time it's immunizations

the question is trivial but I'm bad at this axiomatic stuff

642 people in a school

125 need to be vaccinated

12% of people will be absent on average

how many of the 125 will be absent on average

it's clearly .12*125 but I have no clue why

ACuriousMind

I'm not sure I understand what your problem is

0celo7

Why is the answer .12*125

rob

You're assuming that needing to be absent is independent of needing to be vaccinated.

0celo7

10:23 PM

yes

user218912

@Obliv hey

rob

So 12% of the 125, plus 12% of the (642-125) who don't need vaccinations, gives 12% of the total.

Obliv

@bl00 hiya

0celo7

@rob this is an axiomatic probability course

Obliv

@0celo7 why don't you try observing the derivatives of the functions on their manifolds before you start asking PhD level probability questions

0celo7

10:24 PM

what?

rob

@0celo7 I'm not sure quite what you mean by that title; can you elaborate?

0celo7

@rob I have to write something like: Let $X$ be a random variable where $X=1$ denotes a student being present and $X=0$ denotes a student being absent. <-- Stuff like that

Then define a PDF $p_X$

rob

So the class is where you learn to translate statements like "assume that needing to be absent is independent of needing to be vaccinated" in mathematical notation?

0celo7

yes

not a good class

rob

Well ... good luck

Obliv

10:31 PM

@0celo7 have you tried asking on MSE? I'm sure they'd give you the mathematical answer you're looking for

or try room36 as always

0celo7

I figured it out.

rob

Enlighten us?

0celo7

"indpendence" means that the PDF is constant on the sample space

user218912

@Obliv which university are you planning on transferring to?

Obliv

@bl00 trump university

0celo7

10:32 PM

Let $S$ be the space of students

user218912

@Obliv ...

0celo7

$V\subset S$ is the space of students that need vaccinations

$X$ is the random variable of a student being absent or present

So $$E(X|_V)=\sum_{x\in V}xp_X(x)=\sum_{x\in V}1\cdot 0.12=0.12|V|.$$

Obliv

what's E

0celo7

Expectation

Obliv

that is so silly

user218912

10:35 PM

I'm so bad at probability.

Obliv

is that why you dropped your stat. mech class @bl00

user218912

I didn't 0.o

Obliv

oh then you're still taking it?

user218912

yes

Obliv

thought you said you dropped it o:

user218912

10:36 PM

dropped condensed matter.

user218912

because I wasn't learning anything.

Obliv

ohh ok

user218912

but still learning condensed matter on my own.

user218912

still not 100% sure I want to do GR.

user218912

@Obliv also the stuff we do in that class is related to probability in a different way.

user218912

10:38 PM

it's not like solving probabilities like 0celo7 is doing which I am bad at.

Obliv

@bl00 did you take notes/do practice problems when learning calc 1-3 in hs

user218912

I did practice problems.

user218912

no notes because I can't fucking read my own handwriting, which was even worse in high school.

Obliv

LOL @bl00 yeah I'm wondering what the point of taking notes are except to maybe keep theorems somewhere in case you want to refer to them

0celo7

flagging

Obliv

10:42 PM

but most of them are still in the textbooks that I can just flip back anyway

user218912

@Obliv basically what I did was watch mit ocw in 3x speed, and read the book if I didn't understand something.

user218912

@0celo7 liar.

user218912

I'm not banned so obviously the 10k users didn't find it to be offensive.

Obliv

@0celo7 do that and you will be at the mercy of our new fuhrer. (aka none)

0celo7

@ACuriousMind won't ban me

Obliv

10:45 PM

can you unban people @acuriousmind

jw

user218912

yes he can.

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 I will ban you if you do something ban-worthy.

@Obliv I can.

user218912

owned

0celo7

@ACuriousMind Lol

I don't believe it for a second.

ACuriousMind

Well, I don't advise you to test that belief ;P

user218912

10:50 PM

he's not a physicist.

0celo7

@ACuriousMind What's something ban-worthy?

btw my probability thing was wrong

no clue how to do this

user218912

@0celo7 well you have said some really bad things and deleted them immediately before.

Obliv

@0celo7 how was it wrong? wtf

0celo7

I haven't said anything really bad lol

@Obliv Well, it was completely wrong

Let $S$ be the space of students. $X:S\to\Bbb R$ is the number of students who come to school on a given day.

Then $E(X)=0.12|S|$.

Obliv

maybe you need to clarify axioms: 1. px applies to whole space S. 2. V is a subset of the space S. then px applies to V by axioms then what you said should be correct no?

0celo7

10:54 PM

I have no clue how to do this formally

Obliv

god these students are so obnoxious in this mit ocw lecture. the professor saves time by erasing the chalkboard while it's moving and he cleans the chalkboard before the next board covers it. then theres like a 15 second applause for him like what

brb

user218912

@Obliv I remember that.

user218912

he does it a lot of times.

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