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Brian Fegter

22:00

@Rarst It's just another way to skin the deployment cat

Rarst

@BrianFegter my point is that people care about how it looks, deployment script doesn't :)

@Jared btw I assumed you are asking about github as in version control hosting service, not as version control in general?

Jared

Ah so I assume GitHub is mostly for collaborating with others.

Brian Fegter

@Jared Github is a host for Git

You can use git without using github

github is just a website that makes version control pretty.

Jared

Ok that makes sense

I have used (Tortoise) SVN but I don't really like it

Brian Fegter

Tortoise is just a client to access a SVN repo.

Rarst

22:08

SVN sucks. distributed version control (Git and Mercurial mostly) are much better

Brian Fegter

Mac has some nice GIT and SVN tools.

Jared

And now is a point in my career I really need to start getting organized or I will suffer the consequences.

Brian Fegter

This is a great video by Linus Torvalds, the creator of Git and gatekeeper of Linux kernel. youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 He explains git, his hatret for SVN and predecessor repo software

Jared

Nice that will keep me busy for the next hour, thanks

Brian Fegter

@Rarst Hate SVN too.

Versions for Mac makes SVN a bit less painful

@Jared GET A MAC!!! :) There is a lot of great software tools available for developers. I'm a PC > Mac convert as of last year.

Jared

22:14

What's the best place to shop online for one? (price-wise)

Rarst

@BrianFegter meh, like there isn't for PC :)

Brian Fegter

I'm not too sure. My company buys my hardware.

Jared

What about Linux?

Brian Fegter

I think you can look at Mac refurbs. They have a good reputation

You need to ask @ChipBennett about Linux. That's the OS he uses.

EAMann

If you use Tortoise for SVN, there are also Tortoise clients for Git and Hg (Mercurial) as well.

Similar workflow, similar look, less to re-learn

Jared

22:18

Only problem is the only thing I could ever manage to learn with SVN was to put the files on it for my client to use lol.

ungestaltbar

git has good support among the most popular IDEs, if you're afraid of command line , you really don't have to use it...but it's fun if you've got used to it :)

Jared

I am unfamiliar with command line stuff but I guess it's always something good to learn.

Brian Fegter

Github has a good training program

Chip Bennett

22:36

@BrianFegter there are GUI Linux clients for both SVN and Git, but for git (GitHub) I usually just use the CLI. It's much, much faster.

(I'm in and out. Pain meds are causing me to pass out.)

Brian Fegter

@ChipBennett Hope you feel better!

Chip Bennett

@BrianFegter thanks :)

Rarst

23:13

hm... 50 rep went missing on me... my turn to try and solve the puzzle :)

kaiser

@All In case you haven't been aware of this: google.com/history

Jared

Well I installed Git, signed up at GitHub, everything's done and a repository is created, but how do I put files in it now? Lol noob question probably but oh well.

Chip Bennett

@Jared just follow the instructions on your repository page

toscho

You through Git to [email protected]:YOUR_USER_NAME/REPO_NAME.git

Chip Bennett

@Jared git init

toscho

23:25

help.github.com

Chip Bennett

@toscho git remote add origin {url}

Jared

I did all that

Chip Bennett

@Jared git pull origin master

Jared

My repository just has a README file

Chip Bennett

@Jared then add your files locally

Jared

23:26

Oh I see

kaiser

3 guys trying to teach one guy 3 different ways for one task Haha!

Jared

Haha

I appreciate the help though

Chip Bennett

@Jared see also, this cheatsheet I wrote for myself: bit.ly/hpwkVc

kaiser

@ChipBennett What's your github link?

Chip Bennett

@kaiser github.com/chipbennett

Jared

23:28

So git add . will basically say "These files will be committed" and then you do another command to add a commit message and then you push it to the repository? Is that how it works?

kaiser

@ChipBennett followed

@Jared Get git GUI

Much easier to add stuff and commit w msg

Chip Bennett

@Jared yup! Pretty much it

Jared

Alright

Hmm now to think of something actually useful I can make...

toscho

The one big missing thing in Git GUI is the console.

@Jared You could fix my plugins. Great way to learn something!

Jared

Which ones need fixing?

toscho

23:35

@Jared It was a joke. :) But … Report-Broken-Video needs a clever solution to prevent double submits.

Jared

@toscho $form = <<<RBVFORM I never understood this type of coding, Dreamweaver always says it's wrong. What is it's purpose?

toscho

@Jared It is called heredoc.

Just a kind of a parsed string.

Bainternet

@Jared what do you use Dreamweaver for?

Jared

@Bainternet I only use it because it autocompletes a lot of code for me and I like the code hints.

Otherwise I hate how bulky it is and has a million things I'll never use.

Chip Bennett

@kaiser what is your GitHub username?

Jared

23:49

One last git question if I may lol, how do I (for example, @toscho's Report-Broken-Video repo) take them files and put them on my local machine to start messing with it? I forked it already.

Chip Bennett

@Jared did you read my cheatsheet? I recently added forking

Jared

Just checking it out now

Bainternet

if you forked it then on your local do git clone url/to/forked/repo

Jared

Cool I figured it out, thanks

toscho

help.github.com/fork-a-repo

The close duplicates extension is a must have. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work across multiple windows.