The Loop

toscho

00:02

@Bainternet Can you access the Crash Course linked in the welcome mail? I get a 404.

Bainternet

00:20

@toscho yep i can try this direct link chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/4/conversation/…

toscho

@Bainternet Ah, now I can see it too. I send an email, and some has been working very fast. :)

Jared

01:18

Does anybody here use a mechanical keyboard?

toscho

01:40

American culture. I simply don’t get it.

Jared

Lmao

I have to say that is not a very good example of American culture lol.

Well, maybe it is.

toscho

►

Jared

02:01

Yeah American football is pretty dumb, I don't follow it

EAMann

02:42

Meh. I'm a huge sports fan.

American football. Real football (soccer). Rugby.

Jared

I am a big winter sports fan

If I could, I would ski every day, all day.

EAMann

I've never been skiing.

Went snowshoeing for the first time a few weeks ago, though.

Just not a big fan of being cold :-)

Jared

Well I am a Norwegian so I guess you could say it's in my blood lol.

Skiing is very expensive though..

EAMann

Well if you're ever in the States, maybe we could to a WP ski weekend or something. Ya'll can break me.

Jared

I actually live in Wisconsin, born and raised but my family came to the US only a few generations ago.

That would be awesome though

EAMann

02:49

Ever travel for WordCamps?

Jared

WPSE Ski trip!

Nope but I plan on going to the next one that's close by if I can make it

EAMann

Well ... WordCamp Seattle is coming in May. Not close to Wisconsin ... but plenty of time between now and then to arrange a trip.

Jared

I have a good friend in Puyallup I could stay with, definitely would be a fun trip. I went to WA once for two weeks and loved it.

Flights are pretty cheap too

EAMann

If you do decide to go, let us all know. We can do a WPSE hangout during the WordCamp.

kaiser

04:50

@Jared Finally someone who understands me :)

kaiser

05:32

push:

Brian Fegter

Eventing

kaiser

wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/43262/…

Brian Fegter

Evening

:)

kaiser

morning :)

Sad that there was no chance for 4 mods

Brian Fegter

It's all good. :)

What time is it there?

kaiser

05:34

"What does 'data' mean? Where is it stored? Is it code or content?" - Brian Fegter

Brian Fegter

haha

kaiser

@BrianFegter Currently it is too late. I slept for an hour, left the computer on and trying to finally sleep for some time. Too much css stuff in my head...

Brian Fegter

Are you putting together a quote book of my famous nuggets on the site?

It's midnight here

on the US east coast

kaiser

I'm in central europe :)

Brian Fegter

Vienna looks beautiful from photos.

kaiser

05:39

Worth a visit. Worth a hundreds of visits. One of the best cities in the world :)

Brian Fegter

We only have Mickey Mouse here in Orlando

worth one visit for about three days max

kaiser

Haha!

Brian Fegter

Working on a plugin to generate a color palette per uploaded image attachment

kaiser

Btw: Nearly everyone over here speaks enough english to tell you where you need to go.

Brian Fegter

awesome

kaiser

05:41

@BrianFegter Sounds like WP-Kuler.

Maybe Adobe would sponsor that...

Brian Fegter

ha I think they would sue me

It's basically going to associate an attachment with a custom non-hierarchical tax hexcode terms

kaiser

Not shure about that. When I worked at a printery, we did some Adope stickers and T-Shirts. I met the austrian CEO (or something like that) and had that T-Shirt on. The guy just laughed and asked for the stickers.

Brian Fegter

cool

kaiser

@BrianFegter 1st Q: One term or many terms?

Brian Fegter

Probably about 6-12 terms per attachment

kaiser

05:45

@BrianFegter 2nd Q: How do you get the colors?

Brian Fegter

via GD

I forked a class that generates a common palette of colors from an image

kaiser

Ah, ok. GitHub repo available?

Brian Fegter

Yep

No license info though...but it's public....so I am assuming it's open source

kaiser

:P

Brian Fegter

I contacted the author

kaiser

05:46

No license available sucks...

Brian Fegter

yah it does

kaiser

Btw: Never forget the Rule of 5 :)

Brian Fegter

No license means GPL2

Teach me the Rule of 5 oh sense

kaiser

Simple: Brain & eye never catch more than 5 things without starting to count things. So never go beyond 5 if you don't want to interrupt tasks.

Brian Fegter

Interesting...I've never heard that before

kaiser

05:49

That's the reason why for e.g. kuler.adobe.com/#themes/rating?time=30 doesn't take more than 5 colors into a palette.

Same goes for colourlovers.com and nearly everything else.

Brian Fegter

Good advice

kaiser

:)

Brian Fegter

Thanks for the tip. I wrote it down for future reference as well

kaiser

One thing I always question myself when I'm talking about this to someone: Is this the reason why we got 5 instead of 6+ fingers per hand?

Brian Fegter

There's quite a few things you could do with the color data on the presentation side

kaiser

05:53

I imagine a lot... endless possibilities

Is it for a client?

Brian Fegter

Tell that to Count Rugen of the Princess Bride lol

kaiser

?

Brian Fegter

No, I'm on a mission to complete 10-15 useful plugins this month

kaiser

kool

Brian Fegter

He has six fingers

kaiser

05:55

Ah, k. Don't know his royalty ...

Would be interesting if you take this colour scheme and use it for single post display. So take 5 colours: 2 primary, 2 secondary, 1 special purpose...

Brian Fegter

You should see The Princess Bride sometime

kaiser

Would need a lot of testing with lots of crappy photos :)

Brian Fegter

that would be cool

I also see dynamic backgrounds to match galleries

Sorting by hex value

kaiser

Oh yea. get_posts( array( 'orderby' => 'hex' ) ); ;)

Brian Fegter

I'll let you know how it goes

I built this last night: wordpress.org/extend/plugins/deprecation-checker

kaiser

05:59

Would be interesting if you could intercept the orderby. I guess it could be possible with some sort of automagically added meta key of hex and then intercept on posts_where filter with if ( 'attachment' === $post->post_type )

@BrianFegter Wow. World Record. 38 downloads + 5 votes.

You know that MIT is not compatible ;)

Brian Fegter

Didn't know that

I can change it

kaiser

Too late. Afaik change isn't possible ;)

Brian Fegter

I logged into my 5 accounts and rated myself lol jk

kaiser

Btw: Nice code. But you should really start commenting your code

Brian Fegter

so, I'm breaking something else now lol with my MIT license

You're right. I have a bad habit of not commenting my own code.

I do lots of phpdoc all day long for my job

which I hate

lol

kaiser

06:03

Sidenote: I'm not sure how define exactly works, but I guess it's not typecasting stuff like 1 and 0, so it could be int as well ... ?

I always try to use true/false instead to be on the safe side.

@BrianFegter I love docBlocks in my IDE - close to fanatic - example: github.com/franz-josef-kaiser/Internal-Link-Check/blob/master/…

Brian Fegter

cool

I use both depending on how I feel style wise.

Nice! Keep at me about commenting

it's my lazy habit of coding

Do you work for yourself?

kaiser

What does "Keep at me about commenting" mean?

Brian Fegter

If you see any future code without comments, nag me about it. I have to start making it a habit

kaiser

Ok, have to go to sleep for some hours now. Have a nice evening. And yes, I'll punch you :)

Brian Fegter

haha thanks. Good night

Jared

07:54

@All What's the best flow chart software to use for brainstorming?

Brady

08:44

@StephenHarris Thanks

Brady

08:56

@Jared dont know the best but you can use MS Visio

or if you are the open source type: OpenOffice Draw

Jared

@Brady Thanks, I'll check it out.

Rarst

09:11

@kaiser to what, GPL? perfectly is

@Jared there isn't one... I mostly use WorkFlowy which is not exactly flow chart but awesome enough to compensate

Jared

@Rarst The slogan for WorkFlowy sounds promising. "Organize your brain." Sounds like exactly what I need. :)

Rarst

it's not enough for my brain... still great tool :)

Brady

10:16

Grrr this irritates me. Fills a common requirement but their code is just not thought through... Why are they using get_pages() to return 5 posts when they only need one...

toscho

10:27

We should invite the author of the List category posts plugin to WPSE. plugin-list-category-post

Rarst

@toscho he already is

Fernando, Uruguay

1.2k 2 14

toscho

@Rarst Oh, I missed that.

Rarst

the reason there are many questions is that he points to WPSE for support in plugin, I helped him setup pre-tagged link so it's less of a mess

toscho

@Rarst Then this shouldn’t happen.

Rarst

don't look at me :)

toscho

11:06

Sometimes I get upvotes for answers I don’t even remember. I really, really hope this is something good. If not, I’m doomed.

Rarst

still doesn't compare to my blog... that one gives me major "I wrote what three years ago?"

toscho

@Rarst Yes, I look up things on my blog too.

But I remember at least that I’ve written about this tpoic.

Brady

@toscho that may have been from me. Now and then I go around looking for 0 score accepted answers and upvote them if I feel they were good answers

I hate it when people accept my answers and I get no upvotes :(

So I go around spreading some love :)

toscho

@Brady Right now, it was this answer. I never touched BBPress …

Brady

@toscho Yeah that was me that upvoted you ;)

toscho

11:19

Oh. Thanks. :)

Strange, I remember the BBPress loader class but not my written answer.

anu

morning guys, anyone got an idea about wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/43970/…

Brady

possible duplicate

0

Q: Add a custom meta box for client to order CPT posts how they want

Im looking for a way to add a custom meta box to a custom post type that will allow the user/client order the posts to show up how they want on the site. Is this possible? Basically using a very similar functionality to "page attributes"...

custom-post-types custom-field metabox order page-attributes

1

Q: Query menu_order custom post types

I added 'supports' => 'page-attributes' to my custom post type, and now i have the meta box for page ordering. When i use the argument 'sort_column' => 'menu_order' with get_pages() on my custom post type, everything orders properly. So why do the custom pages not order properly when i qu...

custom-post-types php menus

@anu what do you mean by how do I expose the menu order value on the admin listing screen for this CPT?

edit.php?post_type=CPT on this page?

Rarst

@Brady y'know, you are like a moderator now... deal with it :)

Brady

@Rarst well I've determined they are not duplicate as anu is asking something else

Rarst

ah, I didn't connect the two

Brady

11:31

@anu dansmart.co.uk/2011/09/… this any use?

deluxeblogtips.com/2010/05/add-custom-column.html and that should help you add a new column

anu

@brady - adding a column isn't a problem, that's easy. trying to work out how to show the menu_order value, but that dansmart post should be enough. thanks

Brady

@anu ah ok. Doesn't $post->menu_order exist?

toscho

@Rarst I still haven’t figured out how migration works. Could you help me with this? Should be moved to SO.

Rarst

@toscho close > off topic > belongs on another site > search for SO and choose it

Brady

@Rarst Thing is SO doesnt come up when I search

toscho

11:40

@Rarst Ah, thanks! Done.

Rarst

@Brady it does for me

Brady

@Rarst ahh it does if I type it fully as StackOverflow

Rarst

damn, we have huge diamonds... was pointed out in mod room and now I can't unsee it...

btw I advise you to fav mod room now, even if you don't hang out there - there will be mod pings

anu

@Brady probably does - not thinking straight, i'll check

Brady

@Rarst I was thinking that earlier today hehe

@Rarst link?

@Rarst btw was I suppose to get an email or something with an introduction? If yes then I didn't get one :(

Rarst

11:48

@Brady chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/4/teachers-lounge

toscho

These Street view pictures are still awesome.

Rarst

heh, we are still not snapped by Google... at least Yandex did

toscho

@Brady I’ve send you an email.

Brady

@toscho cheers :)

@toscho I take it was a manual process and they typed my email wrong ;)

toscho

@Brady Oh, yes, probably. Shouldn’t be the first time, I guess? ;)

Brady

11:55

@toscho not noticed it before. but l3rady is meant to look like Brady ;)

I can understand how the mistake was made

Rarst

some days I just want to quit everything and work on Yahoo Pipes clone...

toscho

@Brady I once had a email address named [email protected] (with another domain, of course). I thought it was extra easy. People found at least a dozen ways to type it wrong.

Rarst

I wish activity graph was always visible in sidebar... would be explanatory for people who hit chat during off hours and see it empty

@toscho that's what I like about email on your own domain... redirect everything to yourself, don't care about people mangling it... until they mangle domain of course

toscho

@Rarst Unfortunately, catch-all addresses are a spam magnet.

Brady

@toscho agreed and plus my issues is that people are mangling the domain bit of my email address

toscho

12:06

@Brady That’s one of the reasons why you should register the typo domains too. I made a client with a rather obscure domain name register a dozen domains with similar names recently.

Brady

@toscho It isnt that easy.... why do you think i bought l3rady.com? because brady.com was taken ;)

Rarst

@toscho I have multiple email addresses mapped to single umbrella one, so I doesn't make a difference really... I get spam anyway, but I would hate to miss email from my bank or something :)

and most spam I get is because government sold out my email, nothing I can do about that :)

toscho

@Brady Well … alphabet gymnastic is not the answer to this problem. May take a look here?

brady.off.ai is cool. :D

Rarst

I got asked on twitter why don't I own rar.st and I said - screw it at that price :)

toscho

@Rarst Switch your government.

Rarst

12:12

@toscho they are mostly at same BS level in this age...

toscho

@Brady You could buy brady.bb and dive into BBPress!

Brady

brady.co.ck lol

dont want to change that to brady.loves.co.ck

maybe you can buy

loves.co.ck and sell subdomains to the gay comunity

toscho

brady.com.bo is cool too.

Rarst

@Brady it kinda has live site on it already... :)

Brady

@Rarst do I dare visit lol

Rarst

12:15

@Brady strangely it's not porn... I fail to see domain to content connection

Brady

@Rarst yeah thats a total mind ****

toscho

Dammit, I should buy toscho.bs and republish my chat conversations there.

Brady

@toscho don't talk bull s**t

toscho

rarst.at/home is still possible …

Rarst

damn, new graphs in GA suuuuck :(

toscho

12:33

Brady

@toscho lol

toscho

19 Signs That America Has Become A Crazy Control Freak Nation Where Almost Everything Is Illegal – Germany is on the same route. :(

Brady

12:48

@toscho you not doing a lot of work today?

Bainternet

@Brady i was just about to say that about you @Rarst and @toscho :)

toscho

@Brady Cannot find a focus. A friend died two days ago and the … emotional reactions start to raise up right now. :(

Rarst

give me a break, I was in crunch mode for several months :) and I am actually getting work done today, it's just that I currently mostly have research and not coding on my plate

Brady

@Bainternet I have a lot of work to do. Im just busy avoiding it

@toscho Sorry for your loss.

Stack Exchange

1

Q: How long to allow for a user to make question better?

Lets take this question for example: I have created a wp plugin for my local server and downloaded it as a zip file to my wordpress site which is also on my local server There are many more like this where the question is really not clear what the user is getting at. In the comments many people ...

discussion support

Rarst

13:03

heh, yes - we have big bubble! stackexchange.com/sites?view=grid# people are jealous already :)

Brady

13:19

@Rarst how do you rate the jealousy?

Rarst

@Brady by the fact that someone noticed and gives a damn :)

Brady

lol

is the bubble size based on views/traffic/questions?

Rarst

who knows... but someone does think of us fondly. for example we made into big pretty infographic about network and I never got to the bottom of why with our craptastic answered rate

stackexchange.com/state-of-the-stack

toscho

14:28

Our Greatest Hits

Brady

14:39

this is my greatest hit: wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/15632/…

and it aint even wordpress related

toscho

@Brady You could add with WordPress to the title.

:D

Rarst

@toscho or he could, you know, close it... :)

toscho

@Rarst Let’s move it to outdoors.

This question has a very good ranking. Wow!

Rarst

15:13

@toscho Google is sucker for SE

Rarst

15:26

Logitech is going bonkers? logitech.com/news/cube

Brady

@Rarst its an evil companion cube in disguise!

Stack Exchange

blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/03/se-podcast-31-goodbye-jeff

user30

15:57

@Brady How is the diamond fitting?

Brady

@ThomasMcDonald Am I in trouble?

user30

Of course not.

Brady

:) wipes sweat from brow of forehead

user30

1

Q: Photo gallery on profile page?

Is there a way, (or a plugin), that allows members to have their own photos on their profile page? I want to limit the amount of photos to perhaps 50. Any suggestions??? Thanks in advance!!!

plugin-recommendation profiles plugin-members

user30

^ this is the bad kind of plugin-rec, right?

Brady

16:01

@ThomasMcDonald I like the diamond. Feel like a diamond geezer :)

user30

> The question owner tries to describe something they can’t quite remember, in hopes that the greater community will “buzz in” to hazard an answer based on the limited information provided, like on a game show. The best guess gets upvotes, and potentially an accepted answer checkmark. It’s fun, right?

Brady

@ThomasMcDonald Im not closing it until there is some resolution here:

7

Q: Are theme and plugin recommendation guessing games?

Network blog just had a post about "guessing game" type questions and issues with them. Should we take this as a hint and consider getting rid of theme and plugin recommendation questions? This came up several times and I think current points to consider are: some of recommendation questions ...

discussion

user30

Oh yeah, I know

user30

Just thinking out loud.

Brady

I want to remove them all :)

Our poor answer rate is partly to blame because of these types of Q's

Rarst

16:06

as a recommendation this is crappy, as development this might make sense but needs effort from asker

Brady

@Rarst 90% of users dont make the effort...

so do we say right you're not allowed those types of Q's and let the other 10% suffer

Rarst

I thought some more about answers on meta... main issue - we don't have clear cut algorithm to distinguish good rec from bad rec. and until there is one - trying to get rid of all or part of recs in bulk will just backfire

Brady

So what you are saying. Everyone should allows these Q's but close based on the quality of the Q

So if no effort from the Q user to make it very clear what they are after, then close

Rarst

which is how things work right now

Brady

@Rarst yeah hence why my question on meta earlier

how long to give them?

Rarst

16:10

see my answer on waiting - it depends really...

Brady

@Rarst personally Im happy to blanket with one week like toscho suggested

Rarst

if you can keep track of it... I tend to give it couple of days (if not close right away) and often it just flows away from me

Brady

@Rarst can moderators use flags for themselves?

so moderator can flag for later?

or not recomended?

user30

wordpress.stackexchange.com/posts/1567/revisions

user30

wow

Rarst

16:13

moderators flags are binding, so they usually just obliterate post immediately or something like that :) not recommended unless you mean to do bad things to it

@ThomasMcDonald that took longer than expected to blow up... :)

user30

@Rarst Indeed.

Brady

@Rarst haha we wasnt happy bout that :p

thats how he got his gold badges :)

If we dont allow those types of questions then I dont see many people getting great question badge

user30

plus his maths is wrong

user30

apparently we only have '790 users with a rating of 1'

user30

although I presume he means users that can upvote, of which we have 3766

user30

16:22

time to work on my blog a little

user30

or play Battlefield.

Brady

@ThomasMcDonald BF3?

user30

Aye

Brady

@ThomasMcDonald I returned that game to EA

and recently sold my two XFX 6970's on EBAY

my gaming is over for awhile

Rarst

@Brady awww... why so?

Brady

16:30

@Rarst because Im on a bit of a fitness and health fad :)

Rarst

ok :)

Brady

and a personal trainer aint cheep. hence selling my GFX cards

Rarst

what next? fancy SSD? giant display? :)

Brady

@Rarst I have them already

Rarst

I means selling next

Brady

16:45

No I'm not selling my SSD or IPS monitor. Once I'm all sexy from all the working out I've done I might sell my body :)

@kaiser please don't flag unless it needs moderator attention. Telling EAMann to shoot you doesn't need the attention of all moderators ;)

@Rarst do you think we can temp ban @kaiser for wasting precious moderator time? /jk

kaiser

16:57

@Brady You're allowed to shoot me too. @EAMann was just closest :)

Brady

@kaiser POW POW!

kaiser

thanks

Brady

You're dead I shot you first. You must lay on the floor until some one comes and rescues you.

kaiser

only kryptonite can kill me

Brady

@all

[1] => SimpleXMLElement Object
                        (
                            [@attributes] => Array
                                (
                                    [type] => image/png
                                    [href] => a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1859793258/PS2_normal.JPG
                                    [rel] => image
                                )

                        )

in PHP how do I get to @attributes

$entry->link[1]->@attributes["href"]

??

kaiser

17:02

wait a sec. have that somewhere

Rarst

@Brady it should support array access

Brady

do I have to use xpath()?

@Rarst example of what you mean?

Rarst

@Brady de2.php.net/manual/en/simplexml.examples-basic.php#example-5040

4

A: PHP - Simple XML attributes problem

Your are trying to iterate a string, not an array $item->Image->attributes()->source To iterate all the attributes of the Image element, use foreach ($item->Image->attributes() as $attributeName => $attributeValue) { If you just want to output the value of the source attri...

kaiser

ok. avoids searching. fine :)

Brady

'image' => $entry->link[1]->attributes()->href

seems to work

$xml = new SimpleXMLElement($feed);
$tweets = array();
foreach($xml->entry as $entry) {
    $tweets[] = array(
        'published' => $entry->published,
        'content' => $entry->content,
        'image' => $entry->link[1]->attributes()->href
    );
}

returning something weird...

Array
(
    [0] => Array
        (
            [published] => SimpleXMLElement Object
                (
                    [0] => 2012-02-29T15:21:50Z
                )

            [content] => SimpleXMLElement Object
                (
                    [@attributes] => Array
                        (
                            [type] => html
                        )

                    [0] => FT House & Home takes a look at Ladbroke Grove, including @<a class=" " href="http://twitter.com/PortobelloSq">PortobelloSq</a> <a href="http://t.co/1Hd47wrx">http://t.co/1Hd47wrx</a>

why is it converting published from string to SimpleXMLElement Object?

Rarst

17:14

@Brady use array notation, see links above

Brady

but:

    [entry] => SimpleXMLElement Object
        (
            [id] => tag:search.twitter.com,2005:174877040711966721
            [published] => 2012-02-29T15:21:50Z
            [link] => Array
                (
                    [0] => SimpleXMLElement Object
                        (
                            [@attributes] => Array
                                (
                                    [type] => text/html
                                    [href] => twitter.com/PortobelloSq/statuses/174877040711966721

^^ thats my XML

so to get the content its simple $entry->content

I dont see any other logical way to get it in a string

Rarst

give me input

Brady

search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=from:portobellosq&rpp=1

$feed = file_get_contents($feed);
$xml = new SimpleXMLElement($feed);
$tweets = array();
foreach($xml->entry as $entry) {
    $tweets[] = array(
        'published' => $entry->published,
        'content' => $entry->content,
        'image' => $entry->link[1]->attributes()->href
    );
}

my output being:

Array
(
    [0] => Array
        (
            [published] => SimpleXMLElement Object
                (
                    [0] => 2012-02-29T15:21:50Z
                )

            [content] => SimpleXMLElement Object
                (
                    [@attributes] => Array
                        (
                            [type] => html
                        )

                    [0] => FT House & Home takes a look at Ladbroke Grove, including @<a class=" " href="http://twitter.com/PortobelloSq">PortobelloSq</a> <a href="http://t.co/1Hd47wrx">http://t.co/1Hd47wrx</a>

which is not what I expect it to be

EAMann

Wait, who is it I need to shoot and why?

Nevermind. :-)

Brady

@EAMann I think he is gob smacked by the long answer you gave

Mighty impressive I must admit

EAMann

17:26

I've been known to give even longer ones if I'm in the mood :-) This one didn't even need any screenshots.

Brady

But when I saw it my first impressions was TL;DR

EAMann

Yeah... you missed the other fireworks that necessitated that particular response then.

Rarst

$tweets[] = array(
'published' => (string) $entry->published,
'content' => (string) $entry->content,
'image' => (string) $entry->link['href'],
);

Brady

@Rarst lol I was thinking of trying type casting...

but I thought nahhh it cannot be that

Rarst

SimpleXML is not a stadard vanilla object, it's nasty hugely complicated thing

don't expect it to work in straightforward ways

Brady

17:29

@Rarst thanks for the help as always ;)

EAMann

I've done the same type casting on SimpleXML before, quite effective.

kaiser

Just got a spam mail from William with subject: "I want marriage" lol!

Brady

@ThomasMcDonald your question here:

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Q: What is the range of the EOD bot?

I've recently unlocked the EOD bot, and while playing around with it (and being hopelessly ineffectual with it) I've noticed that after I have driven a certain distance away I will return back to first-person view. Running towards the EOD bot will allow me to take control of it again. How far ca...

battlefield-3

ah nvm I didnt read fully

I found that sometimes the EOD bot would self destruct if driven recklessly

but you dont have that issue as you say you can come closer and the bot works again

user30

18:05

yeah, I found it odd. I drove a distance and the bot disconnected

user30

I then ran forward a little, and I could drive the bot a bit further forward

Brady

18:20

Hey everyone. Live from wordpress meetup in london

user30

18:38

Live sounds ominous.

Brady

chat is not mobile friendly....

toscho

20:33

Fun with WordPress’ media management: upload a file named .gif. :D

Oh, ..gif is nice too.

Jared

Afternoon everyone

Chip Bennett

20:54

Howdy Jared

Rarst

hiya

Jared

Tips on getting my "boss/client" to stop giving me ~5 plugins/themes at a time to work on? :P

toscho

@Jared Simple. Break all five.

Jared

Haha

Rarst

@Jared work on them as good as you can and let him suffer consequences he conjured upon himslef

toscho

21:04

To be honest: I have almost the same problem. Just without a boss.

Jared

He had another developer literally throw a plugin together (it was horrible) and I took it, redid the entire thing in a couple days. Now he is under the assumption that I can make anything in a couple days.

Oh well it's kinda good I guess, pushing my limits.

Jared

21:54

Why do people use GitHub and similar things? As in the main purpose?

Rarst

@Jared off-site repository, repository for multiple people (as in working together or as in showing/sharing your stuff)

Brian Fegter

@Jared Easy deployments between different environments

@Jared Our company's main client uses SVN and we make deployment requests by providing SVN commands for stage and production environments

Rarst

@BrianFegter there isn't really difference in that regard between github/alike and simply a repository

Brian Fegter

@Jared Internally, we use GIT for upthemes.com themes because like @rarst said, we have multiple devs working on a theme at one time

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