The Loop

kaiser

00:00

I were having ... "fun". Gladly this time the phpDocBlock was (a) present and (b) not lying at me.

Sven

I had problems with base64-encoded icons and theme validations some time ago

kaiser

Validation == getting theme accepted in repo?

Sven

yes

base64 encoding makes you suspicios

kaiser

Thought about that when I read it. They really need to drop that shit.

Sven

yea, just wanted to share this with you :)

kaiser

00:03

A valid argument for menu_icon in register_post_type is ... wait for it ... a base64 encoded SVG ! ... #WordPress #ThemeReview

Tweeted by unserkaiser on January 30, 2014 at 12:03 AM

Sven

beside this it works like a charm :)

kaiser

Better share it with the world :)

Sven

;)

kaiser

Somehow nothing works quickly today... next obstacle: post type columns.

and for some reason my metabox callback doesn't get called. I should leave it.

Sisir

05:39

@MayeenulIslam good to see :) at least someone doing it on bangla :)

this is weird.. I added a menu item (with admin privileges) and it is showing (pending)

lkraav

07:41

lol i like ninja forms ascii art

userabuser

09:26

@TomJNowell just found your tweet from Oct last year, we use WPE for our app and its pitiful that they don't yet support 5.4+. I've been wanting features I use elsewhere in 5.4 that we just can't use in our app. Yet WPE are apparently built atop Linode, which I wish we'd had gone with directly instead...

Rarst

o_O

I am starting to lose track of what the heck managed WP hosts charge big money for

userabuser

for aggressively caching your JS files making git dev on your staging branches a nightmare...

for causing you grief with their CDN

for keeping you locked down in antiquated versions of software

that's what we pay big bucks for

Rarst

so far managed WP hosts are kind of Apple of hosting. do less, pay more, feel good.

Tweeted by Rarst on January 30, 2014 at 9:34 AM

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userabuser

The Truth.

I understand security is an issue, but as Tom pointed out, its really NOT. The whole WP ecosystem is living in the dark ages.

even my hostgator shared account lets you choose!

toscho

09:57

instead of voting you can help me! — devwin 1 hour ago

Stephen Harris

11:11

@Rarst The name. And the inexplicably well-sold lie that a server needs to somehow need to be 'geared' to WordPress :/

Tom J Nowell

11:34

there are other benefits to managed hosting

e.g. people who visit the VIP hosting and see CFTP logo then come to us with no intention of using VIP

so effectively, it's also marketing budget

interconnect also priced up how much it would cost to employ someone to do the server stuff and it was cheaper to get an external company to do it

Rarst

we are not talking about server grids level, we are talking about pretentious VPS level :)

kaiser

12:42

shittiest thing on win: %PATH% ... and getting resetted by various updates.

Rarst

why? and I don't remember it ever being reset, I have bunch of custom crap added to it

kaiser

me too. first thing that disappeared without anything getting added or installed to the system was npm and node.

now puppet and vagrant are gone alongside bower, grunt, etc.

in between git wasn't recognized by bower anymore and so on.

this is ~ the 3rd time this happened...

Rarst

you might have a case of shitty software doing that

kaiser

"~~not so~~ funny" side fact: It's recognized by cmd, but not by gitk/ Git/GNU Bash

already checked that. not sure what could be causing that.

Rarst

that's the joy of linux :)

kaiser

12:49

I know. But can't use it due to other software that's only available on win and that I need.

Hm. env|grep PATH shows me a completely different %PATH% setting than I can see in the environment settings... damn it!

kaiser

13:08

Sooo annoying. Powershell and cmd got the correct PATH everywhere. Git Bash only got it inside the users dir... don't get it.

G. M.

13:24

@kaiser do you know this laravel.com/api/…?

kaiser

@G.M. nope. but might be handy for WP as well. For some hooks/filters you can't use Closures because of the serialization.

IIRC wp_uninstall_hook() is such a case.

G. M.

@kaiser yes, is what I meant. it's an interface that can be copied, pasted and then implemented in WP.

kaiser

Not that I'd do that :)

G. M.

Sure :)

Sisir

14:16

anyone have links to good domain mapping article? I want to map a domain to CPT permalink

G. M.

14:26

@Sisir no, but... ask a question on main?

Mayeenul Islam

15:24

Today I visited @kaiser's git repositories, and found wpgear.org

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Most of them are on github

may be still under development

if I decide to use them for client's site, how safe are they?

if any wrong commit happen...

and without new version notification

Rarst

chat is packed two full lines of avatars, don't remember that happening before :)

Mayeenul Islam

:)

but most of 'em are inactive. :)

GhostToast

someone said there was free coffee

kaiser

no free beer? I'll leave

@MayeenulIslam as safe as any dot org plugin. probably safer

@MayeenulIslam Always test and look at tags and branches to see where stable stuff can be found.

Mayeenul Islam

@kaiser Hmm. That well said.

GhostToast

15:36

also @Rarst if you stretch your browser out, its just one full line of avatars ;)

scrunch it to make 4x4!

Rarst

it's on portrait display for me :)

Mayeenul Islam

@GhostToast I zoomed out my browser, and found 1 full line. ;)

GhostToast

portrait display? you on ipad?

Rarst

I have 2x27", one landscape, one portrait

GhostToast

neat

Mayeenul Islam

16:51

Bangladeshi WordPressers are cordially invited to "WordPressers Bangladesh" chatroom.
http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/12759/wordpressers-bangladesh

We will chat there in Bangla, and assist each other.

The Loop is our base, but we can chat in Bangla in "WordPressers Bangladesh"

GhostToast

is there something like this? get_comment_author_first_name()?

i have email addresses AS usernames on a site. and now they're commenting and revealing their email addresses in standard comment template

get_comment_author_link() returns link as their username

supposedly get_comment_author() returns $user->display_name if no $comment->comment_author is present... so in theory it should use the display name. but it just DOESNT.

Mayeenul Islam

@GhostToast 8-| !!

GhostToast

theory - the comment author is saved as whatever the display name was at that time, and won't update even if i modify the display name of a user

must do one more test

yup. it took whatever display_name was at that time

now to programmatically force everyone's display_name to be in First Last format

GhostToast

17:36

yet another case of mind-control parasitic behavior. this time the target is the honey bee: ZomBee Watch

Stephen Harris

17:58

What an arse: wordpress.org/support/topic/…

GhostToast

@StephenHarris his mommy never held him

Stephen Harris

@GhostToast hehe

@GhostToast display name might just be the username - depends on setting - so that would be why its using the e-mail?

@GhostToast ... ok you're ahead of me :)

GhostToast

its a membership site and for simplicity, i made the username actually be identical to their email address, rather than coming up with some convention for unique usernames

came back to bite me when Display Name was defaulting to their email address (username). but i fixed it

Stephen Harris

@GhostToast Always thought WP should ditch usernames...

Wyck

or at least a way to toogle them off for security

Stephen Harris

18:10

@Wyck how would it improve security?

Wyck

bots crawl the site for usernames because they are output in a bunch of places and then use them to login, helps the login odds

GhostToast

well for starters, you wouldn't have "admin" as a username, like ever

Wyck

there is a trac ticket about it from years ago, not going anywhere

GhostToast

i wish they'd remove the hint that alerts when a correct username is being provided, with incorrect password

"Incorrect password for user admin" for example

Wyck

wp scan scan does username crawling for example, one of the many

Stephen Harris

18:12

@Wyck that's true.

Wyck

its very effective

because people also use their usernames in the password with like 123 added to the end

GhostToast

damn! remind me to change the combination on my luggage

Stephen Harris

I've started using 'password' again. No one expects it anymore.

Wyck

speaking of passwords, this morning I had to ask an IT guy to make a server at a company he emails me the info: db:website login:website pass:website

no f&cks given on my part

GhostToast

::facedesk::

Wyck

18:16

it had been a rough back and forth already I just left it at that

questions like "why do you need a database"

GhostToast

IT guys must undergo a pretty rough hazing period, as they always seem to be really paranoid

Wyck

ya responsibilities and all hehe, I could never do what they do

though they pay is pretty damn good

I think most stressed individual on the planet are IT who deal with the stock market

most of them look 65 and bald but they are only like 30

this trac ticket is like watching someone kick a dead horse core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21663

GhostToast

18:35

tl;dr

Wyck

lets use pdo..lets not..lets use pdo..lets not

G. M.

did_action('some_action') return TRUE when current_filter() === 'some_action'. Misnamed?

GhostToast

18:53

anyone know if there is a way to choose a term_id when creating a new term?

G. M.

@GhostToast when create via wp_insert_term? If so first argument can be the id

GhostToast

Function Reference/wp insert term « WordPress Codex

first argument is listed as "term", i assumed that is slug

hmm. i see

then pass args

Stack Exchange

19:46

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Q: Is there a way to retire old tags?

I would like to retire some old tags I used to use. Is there a way to migrate them to a new tag, or even better, remove them from previous posts?

Wyck

20:30

whats that thing called where there is a sticky tab on the side of the browser

GhostToast

hmm. position:absolute ?

toscho

position:fixed

@Wyck I call it a major annoyance.

Wyck

"side tabs" maybe that's what they are called

boscho

20:52

@Wyck you talking about the browser feature to make tiny, un-close-able tabs, or a piece of web-code?

Wyck

@boscho I mean those annoying thing that are fixed to the window and say things like "social media some bullshit click me' , I just wondered if they have an actual name

boscho

ahh, gotchya. I know the names for the browser features, but no idea if the annoying side-tab crap has a widely recognized name

GhostToast

"persistent navigation" ?

floating navigation

sticky navigation

something like that

boscho

I feel like the one I run into most frequently these days is a "Feedback" tab.

Wyck

21:57

ya

toscho

22:23

Conditioner Gordon

boscho

lol. Love the first comment: "The Dark Knight Rinses"

GhostToast

RoboLink Cop

boscho

22:39

@GhostToast with ballpoint pens, nonetheless O.o

toscho

Scandinavians after hearing of texas snowstorm

GhostToast

@toscho like 250 cars off road in Austin, TX

i haven't seen the ground since november

boscho

where you at, Toast? Despite all the freak storms it's been a pretty standard Colorado Winter - just got into the negative degs F a little quicker this year.

GhostToast

i'm by chicago

boscho

snow melts, snow comes back, snow melts again

ahhhh

yeah you've got it much worse O.o

GhostToast

22:43

about an hour, hour and a half west

toscho

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Q: Need Assistnace with Garvity Gorms

How I ca create UNIQUE ORDER ID NUMBER in Gravity Forms I cannot use JavaScript PDF_EXTENDER will not display it Thank You

forms

boscho

decently humid there too, if I'm not mistaken?

toscho

We still have the best typos

boscho

@toscho that's got to be referring to a mythological beast of some sort.

perhaps related to the Jabberwocky

GhostToast

garvity gorms, awesome

@boscho yea we get like all the weather one can stomach usually

toscho

22:46

people can’t type assassin nowadays

GhostToast

but richest farmlands :P apparently IL produces like 90% of US pumpkins

boscho

@toscho which is a shame considering it has such a simple mnemonic...

@GhostToast you, sir, are the Pumpkin King

I think I'm done with Winter for a few years. Back to California!

GhostToast

i was born in houston, TX. lived there about 7 years, also lived in orlando, FL for about 7 years

the novelty of snowy winters is kiiiiinda starting to wear off

toscho

our last winter lasted until April. then came the flood.

boscho

@GhostToast it'll do that. It's beautiful and fun until you have to commute in the stuff, or dig yourself out of your house on a regular basis

GhostToast

22:48

though, IL is a tall state. in the middle of it, barely any snow

EAMann

Howdy, @GhostToast! Sorry, I don't get in here often

boscho

@toscho that's rather prophetic

GhostToast

@EAMann no problem, just wanted to give a shoutout to my future coworkers i've discovered on WPSE. going to be starting at 10up week of Feb 17th

EAMann

Has that been officially announced by the company yet?

GhostToast

@EAMann I don't believe so

EAMann

22:50

We usually keep things like this quiet until the boss gets to make an announcement ;-)

GhostToast

whoops. i'll try to contain my enthusiasm. thanks for the heads up :D

EAMann

No worries

boscho

@toscho I think that man may fully grasp the concept of the "Icing" drinking "game"

more than any frat bro ever will.

Tom J Nowell

icing?

boscho

meeehhhh... don't worry about it. Don't bother looking it up, really. Don't know how it started, but there's no game involved - just an excuse to drink...

But I've looked it up for you anyway.

But it seemed to be an apt description for the awesome Scandinavian toscho posted.

Tom J Nowell

23:00

-_- that doesn't even seem like a stupid drinking game, it's just, why?

they could've picked a better drink than smirnoff ice

boscho

precisely. I don't understand why it became "viral" - makes me worried for humanity.

Tom J Nowell

because paranoid parents in america?

like all the other stupid games they worry about that nobody ever does

Garvity Gorms

made me chuckle

boscho

beware the Garvity Gorms!

toscho

I think this explains @Rarst’s code style.

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