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@LoganM Which?
lol
00:40
I really thought the Sakamoto question would get up to +10 in a couple of hours. I wonder if people thought it was too easy or something.
@LoganM they have to read it to believe in sakamoto, you know
@Krazer I thought our members were good enough that they all would have read it by now.
@LoganM all 6 of us, yes.
A lot of ppl can't seem to be able to identify Natsu either
@Krazer I upvoted that post when it was at +1 since it was a new user, but it definitely shouldn't have gotten as many upvotes as it did.
Is that the one that was at least +11?
I didn't even upvote it. I don't know who the other 11 were.
00:52
@Eric +12 right now.
Wow. Crazy.
The Inuyasha one is +11, which is just as easy IMO.
Well, I mean, I've seen it just as bad in some places.
I think my Oban Star Racers one got +10.
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A: Anime with a little red haired character who pilots a racing pod

EricI would wager that he's looking for Ōban Star-Racers. It's a series, but was based on a short movie called Molly Star Racer. The basic story starts as: In the year 2082, Earth has been invited to compete in the Great Race of Ōban, an intergalactic race whose winner can be granted any wish in...

A lot of these are getting upvoted a lot
@Eric That's a more obscure series, so it's harder and probably deserves more votes. But +10 is still a bit much.
00:54
Yeah. +5 or +6 seems reasonable.
And +3 or +4 to the common ones.
There's no way any of these answers are as good as @Krazer's Sakamoto answer, let alone more than twice as good.
(Though that answer should probably be at least +25 by reasonable standards)
@LoganM If we had a large userbase, yes.
@Eric We managed to get 45 votes on a borderline NC question so I think 25 for Sakamoto is reasonable.
@LoganM Remember that one was during private beta.
There is a lot more focus on the questions at that point.
In any case, even forgetting about Sakamoto for a few seconds, it seems like a lot of our voting on answers isn't really representative of the quality or difficulty of the answer.
@Eric so many spoiler tags O.O
01:02
I know, right? lol
The answer basically spoils the entire ending with Suzu and Okabe, if someone is clever enough to connect the dots.
Though I can't really complain. One of my top answers is almost entirely one big spoiler tag, and I just haven't been motivated to get rid of it yet.
Is there anything we can do about the large number of spoiler tags? Because some answers seem to be almost unreadable because they are made up of so many spoiler blocks.
@kuwaly This question is specifically about explaining a plot-dependent event in the last episode of the series. Even the majority of the question itself is a spoiler.
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A: What happens at the end of CLANNAD: After Story?

Logan MI don't think this can be answered unambiguously even considering the visual novel, but it certainly explains things somewhat better than the anime in this case. In principle I can find quotes from the VN to support everything here, but that seems like a pretty arduous task given the size of the ...

That one?
@Eric I meant more generally.
@kuwaly I think we just have to be vigilant for questions that make excessive use of them, and edit them.
01:05
Lots of questions are more spoiler tags than non-spoiler tags
@Eric If the question is about the last episode of the series, it doesn't make sense to spoiler tag anything from the anime since that's going to be obvious from reading the question.
@LoganM But this isn't about the last episode. It's about an event in the series which happens to be the subject of the last episode.
IMO, anyway.
I should get rid of that tag, but I need to do a complete rewrite of that answer, and it's going to take a while.
Maybe we should have a meta FAQ question "When should I use spoiler tags?".
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Q: When a spoiler becomes a spoiler?

BlueMy question my seem a little simple, but most events regarding Anime and Manga are chronological. Would asking a question about the first couple arcs of an anime or manga without the use of the spoiler box be spoiling? Can we assume that people already watched the arcs due to how long the cont...

Like that? Or more specific?
@Eric I don't agree with the answers there. I think they're out of date.
01:11
Then time to revive it or start a new one.
I'll add it to the list.
@Eric The list is already too long as is. You need to be removing things from it, not adding.
@LoganM A longer list can always be shortened. A shorter list encourages scrambling to find stuff to add.
@Eric Why would you be scrambling? 2 elements is already too long a list, and you have more than 5.
True enough. I actually have 6 now, plus 4 meta things we want more activity on. Though arguably, 4 of the 6 of them can be new meta questions.
01:38
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Q: How common is it for men to voice women?

kuwalyI know male characters are often voiced by women. Naruto for example, is voiced by Junko Takeuchi, Luffy is voiced by Mayumi Tanaka, and Hitsugaya Toshiro is voiced by Romi Park, all of whom are women. How common is it for men to voice women? Is there any precedent to it? If not, are there any e...

02:17
@LoganM @Krazer or ?
@Eric 12 kingdoms IMO.
I've been meaning to ask about that one but kept forgetting.
I agree with that.
> The Twelve Kingdoms (十二国記 Jūni Kokuki?, also known as "Record of 12 Countries" or "Juuni Kokki," a common alternate reading)
@Eric do people call it juuni-kokuki?
From Wikipedia. It doesn't say the Japanese name is more popular or anything.
Actually, 131,000 results for "Juuni Kokuki". 4,650,000 for "The Twelve Kingdoms".
I would go with Twelve Kingdoms
But that's just me
02:20
kk
If Krazer agrees, he can change it when he appears again.
@Eric How much of "The Twelve Kingdoms" is the right series though?
@LoganM Every result on the first 10 pages is related to the series.
Not that I'm disagreeing. I'm just wary of Google searches for fairly generic-sounding things.
@Eric Okay, that's probably good enough.
Should we use or (which barely fits)?
@Eric yeah
@Krazer kk :) Can you change it?
02:31
@Eric how do i do dat?
O;)
;P Fine! I'll retag the questions, then.
OMG
You're too fast!
What do you guys think about Madoka? Should we use the full name that barely fits or the common abbreviation which most people will search for anyway?
I'd say we keep the long title. Did we synonym the short one?
@Eric seems redundant, the short one
@Eric We're using the short one right now
02:38
Oh. We're weird.
@Eric Yes. We are weird.
Now that I think of it, though...
Shorter tags are better.
They restrict the search results' titles less.
That's true. I hadn't thought of that.
Maybe just make a synonym in case anyone tries to search for it by the full name then.
@LoganM if they do madoka, wouldn't it still come up either way?
@Krazer Yes. But if they start at the beginning, they'll only get the long name.
02:44
okay if we want to do this we should do it in bulk
do we have any other ones we want to synonymize?
Actually, maybe we should just set guidelines for what the right series tag names are and when to use separate/the same tags for related but different series. That would also solve the "When they Cry" thing on meta right now.
@LoganM yeah that would be helpful
That should be done in a chat cast or a meta post. Probably chat since it'll require some input from multiple people.
Meta would work the sam way imo
Related: I think we should try to do a chat this Saturday. There's a lot of topics we can cover, even if we only get to 2 or 3 of them.
Is it too late to set one up?
02:52
I think it's a bit late but we can still do a impromptu one
03:04
Has anyone ever used ? I'm wondering if we should keep it or just get rid of it.
once I think
or maybe it was
I've seen used once.
They're synonyms so it's basically the same thing anyway.
@Eric Do you remember what question? I've seen more questions using other things like than I have .
Hmm... it was a while ago. It was shortly after we introduced the tag, I think. I'll try to recall which question.
Don't worry about it then. It's pretty clear that it's not being used most of the time, but there probably isn't any need to delete the tag either.
03:13
The only reason to delete it would be to get rid of the tag from the one question that has it.
But it's closed anyway, so...
Well, I think I'm going to head home for today. See you guys tomorrow.
See you! o/
o/
He's Thi Kei. 'Nuff said.
@Eric Dat Little Witch Academia OVA, so good!
03:29
@Krazer o_O?
One sec, watching a Naruto boss battle.
@Krazer So many pretty colors and stuff!
n dat's just the intro
I wanna see a series or a movie of this
Series would be better!
The more the merrier :D
03:57
I'll have to finish this video tomorrow... YouTube is not cooperating tonight.
See you tomorrow, @Krazer. :P
@Eric (;_;)/
@Krazer (T_T)/
04:20
shit, I think I broke the bin with my little one-boxing experiment...
oh wait nvm... only if the window isn't wide enough...
 
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Q: In the first episode of Hataraku Maou-sama, what is the "Underworld" language based on?

nhahtdhIn the first half of the first episode of Hataraku Maou-sama, we can hear conversation between Satan and Alsiel in "Underworld" language. Is the "Underworld" language based on a real language, or is it just plain gibberish?

 
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13:20
Yo
hey
13:32
hey
13:52
lol
14:05
Pie for everybody!
@Eric π?
@Eric i cπ
@Krazer ahah
lol
There's plenty to go around.
@Eric ah, that's more like it
14:11
a π pie
@Eric A movie would have more budget, thus better quality
@Krazer Yeah, but only 1-2h of goodness.
@Eric that's a bit more than a quarter cour of content (at best)... with no fillers or recaps episodes!
Depends how many episodes you have. :P
quality > quantity imo
I'd like to submit this into evidence:
What's that?
14:20
A slice-of-life robot anime, Time of Eve.
I see. :P
Quality is very important.
But I prefer if I can see said quality more than once.
14:38
@Eric how about pi?
Too wide D:
15:11
lol...
15:43
@Eric Did you finish all your homework?
@Krazer Nope. :( I should probably get started. :D
@Eric darn, I would've ordered a pepperoni pizza if you did.
@Krazer For you, or for me? xD
@Eric pizza for no, me only eat teh goodest pizzahs
o_O
That should go on your bucket list.
15:46
Pizza pi
... lol
BTW - Hi everyone :)
Hello~
@Krazer That reminds me more of lambda than pi.
Certainly a pie to portion
15:49
Yez. Lambda.
Always reminds me of the Hebrew letter Gimel:
half life is indeed both a blessing and a punshiment
Oh hey what's @Oded doing here? :)
@Oded welcome
How come you've never told me you're an anime guy?
@Mysticial Well, he made an Amaterasu remark on a comment I made on Meta Stack Overflow, and I invited him here
15:57
@MadaraUchiha ah
@MadaraUchiha Well... a fan and follower of a few different mange and anime, but not an expert, not by a long shot
@Mysticial Got an invite, though, strictly speaking, as a dev, I don't need one to crash the party ;)
I don't think there was a party to crash in the first place. :)
Dunno. I've seen lots of pie
@Oded So.. wait, what are you following atm?
@Oded If you want a party, you should go see our gif room. (browser warning)
16:02
@Oded does such a thing exist? An anime/manga expert that is
@Krazer Not really :P
Naruto Shippuuden (anime), Bleach (manga, now that the anime has been discontinued), D-Gray-man (same). These are the ongoing ones...
I suppose someone who is actually in the industry or someone who writes manga/anime could be considered an expert.
And Fairy-Tail (anime)
@Mysticial Now I'm scared.
@Krazer I am sure one exists, in a cave made of old issues of shonen jump
16:04
@Oded hehe :)
Other anime I enjoyed - Sword Art Online, busou renkin, Fullmetal Alchemist (both versions)
Yes SAO!!!
One of the more visually appealing anime I have seen in a good while
Anyway, I'm off. Gotta go home, see the kids.
I love when professors ask questions that require definitions they didn't provide in the notes.
It's almost like they're intentionally trying to screw us.
16:19
@Eric they are in fact hinting that you should be reading the overly-priced texts (sometimes written by them)
@Krazer Ugh, that shouldn't be allowed.
@Eric yeah I think it's unethical
Basically, I'm given a question about statistical databases. But the teacher never outlined which security mechanisms are on such a database.
If I assume none, then the question can be solved with 1 query (it wants 2). If I assume all, it cannot be solved in 2 (it requires 4). So, we're stuck halfway in between, lol.
@Eric no paramaters given? Always assume the worst case scenario!!!
No parameters given. :P
16:33
@Eric none, someone used SQL injection and wiped out all the tables!
@Krazer lol
@Eric SQL query?
Yes, but I'm required to use 2, and it's a statistical database.
So I can't just do SELECT Salary FROM ____ WHERE Name='Bev' AND ...
@Eric I bet it's not as simple as SELECT Salary FROM table WHERE Name = 'Bev'
Yeah. :P
16:38
@Eric So how does that work? How's a statistical database different than a relational one?
That's the problem, it's not well defined. It can have one or more restrictions on it, and the assignment doesn't say which it's using.
Some common approaches are:

only allowing aggregate queries (SUM, COUNT, AVG, STDEV, etc.)
rather than returning exact values for sensitive data like income, only return which partition it belongs to (e.g. 35k-40k)
return imprecise counts (e.g. rather than 141 records met query, only indicate 130-150 records met it.)
don't allow overly selective WHERE clauses
audit all users queries, so users using system incorrectly can be investigated
use intelligent agents to detect automatically inappropriate system use
(From Wikipedia)
I mean, can I do SELECT SUM(Salary), then SELECT SUM(Salary) WHERE Name!='Bev'? Is that allowed? Who knows!
@Eric Probably not
But the answer in this case is "Don't use a statistical database if you want per-record information"
lol
I think the idea is that we're a hacker trying to get that information.
So we're supposed to be clever and bypass the restrictions to get what we want.
But it's kinda hard to bypass restrictions when they are not outlined nor can you test a theory.
 
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17:55
0
Q: How is Mystogun able to eat apples through his scarf?

j0chnIn Episode 28 of Fairy Tail, Mystogun is eating two apples. That's normally nothing special (obviously) but he is eating them through his "scarf". How does he do it? I Googled for it, but the best answer is "It's magic". I can't believe that it is that easy. Do you know how he is doing this?

18:10
@Sakamoto another question?
@ShotgunNinja I thought the same. xD
I wonder if the asker even knows we had a tag a few days ago.
18:38
It is a good question. How does a man, who always has his face covered, manage to eat? Never mind apples - anything?
Indeed. I've seen it outside of anime, too. In cartoons, heroes with full-face helmets still manage to eat while in costume. It's weird.
And my favorite - the characters that are in full body armor. How do they ever go to the toilet?
They have a magic portal in their groin that just zaps out all the waste into another dimension.
I'm glad I don't live in that dimension.
Orguss sure has a lot of retard faces in the show
I like it when characters can pull rocket launchers and mortars out of their pockets.
18:42
guy looks like he just shit his pants
@JonLin lol, That's almost meme-worthy.
@JonLin No portal for him!
it's the "Super Dimension Century" orguss
image doesn't do it justice, as he's kind of shaking (from happiness I guess) so it looks like he's having a seizure
@JonLin Do you have a clip of it?
not right now, I took the screenshot a little while ago, but it's in episode 13
someone in IRC was talking about orguss so I popped out that image
18:49
Darn, doesn't look like it's on YouTube. But it would make a nice GIF, lol.
@Eric ?
@Krazer Jon Lin's dumb-face image up there is apparently coupled with the character shaking from happiness.
It would probably make a nice GIF if we had a clip of it. :P
closest I can get to that is this:
19:07
@Krazer lol...
I've seen that before, but with less tears. xD
You should copy the other one to Thrills and Spills, tho.
which one?
19:28
@Eric we need more animated mangos
xD
We win!
@Eric I found the motherloade of animated cat gifs: pusheen.com
Oh.
My.
God.
"If cats were giant" section is the best. :D
My productivity just dropped to zero. lol
19:39
for the make pizza one they forgot the part where the house catches on fire because the oven was left on
@Eric sounds like it wasn't much of a deviance ;D
@Krazer I love step 4 in that one, lol.
And I was being productive!
I finally finished trucking around with OAuth.
@Krazer The Pokémon one is awesome.
@Eric it's like pikachu is farting little thunderbolts
Yup! xD
20:09
Btw, @Krazer, if you do web development, you might want to bookmark this: placekitten.com
@Eric that's way better than placehold.it
Indeed! :D
what black magic is this!?
@Krazer I've seen stuff like that (though not quite as advanced) before. It's crazy shit. Epic hydraulics and such.
@Eric tell me all that you've seen~
20:24
@Krazer I have seen the future! :P
Nah, basically the same thing, 'cept the camera was more bouncy.
@Eric What does the future hold, O Great Seer?
@Krazer World War III.
@Eric Oh no! How can we prevent this?
Shall we build Gigantic robots for each representative country and have them fight each other?
@Eric WWIII would be the world against me.
Guess who's going to win?
We can call it the Wisest World War
20:33
@Krazer More like the "Hopeless World War" :P
@MadaraUchiha We both know I won't even let you get ten feet before I blow you away.
@Krazer Yes! But no more than 3 per country.
@Eric Blew me away with what exactly?
What Would Jon Skeet Do?
Know what? Third party opinion wins? @Eric
lol, That will be an insta-lose for me. You're more well-known than me.
20:35
@Krazer @Mysticial Who'd win? Madara or Pride?
Think it through well
@Eric It's not that, It's the combination between a 360 degrees perfect one-sided barrier and infinite chakra that's going to beat you.
Not my popularity.
GLORY TO MADARA-SAMA! (〇 □ 〇)
Yeah, saw that coming. :P
He's been hailing you since.. since..
Since he wasn't 93 years old.
Since private beta, really :P
20:37
Yeah, lol
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Q: A user ragequit after bountying me all his rep, and I'm kind of creeped out by it

CharlesMy aggressive tag editing has disturbed people before, but this is a new one. Last week, a 1.5k rep user created a horribly generic tag name, so I nuked it. There was a brief back-and-forth in the comments on the question, now deleted. tl;dr: Dude, if you're gonna talk about search in Android,...

I'm gonna rep you to death!!!
Horray.
@Eric [Cannot break free from the Madara-sama's Almighty Sharingan]
@MadaraUchiha lol, Did you look at his profile? +1600.
@MadaraUchiha I haven't seen Naruto. So I don't know how strong Madara is. :P
@Eric Yeah :D
@Mysticial Huh
20:42
@Mysticial So I win by default!
So we're tied. :P
I want to refer you to here
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Q: What are Madara Uchiha's weaknesses?

Madara UchihaAt his current state, how could Madara possibly be defated? What weakness does Madara have that could be exploited to harm him? They'd have to damage him badly to hope for a seal.

Well... Assuming that whoever I piss off will ragequit and bounty me all his rep. Then I will say that Madara is very weak. That way I'll piss off @Madara and get all his rep - which is more than @Eric's. :P
@MadaraUchiha I highly doubt that user was aware of my power when writing such an answer.
MUAHAHAHA!
@Eric So ask what are pride's weekneses
:D
20:44
And we'll see
None, until I run out of souls.
Or formerly, if I get ambushed in pitch black.
@Eric So Pride is weak against prewritten scenarios?
Yes, as is any character, I would assume.
But Pride needs a haircut. So he's off to get one. Toodle-oo!
@Eric Cya
This... is probably the stupidest thing I've seen in Stack Exchange. Everyone in the whole site just got a little bit dumber for having read that. — Madara Uchiha 1 min ago
^^ lol
20:54
@Mysticial :D
Although the guys over at TL accepted the challenge and gave me this:
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Q: Our security auditor is an idiot. How do I give him the information he wants?

samA security auditor for our servers has demanded the following within two weeks: A list of current usernames and plain-text passwords for all user accounts on all servers A list of all password changes for the past six months, again in plain-text A list of "every file added to the server from re...

@MadaraUchiha Oh that. I remember that.
It's epic.
@MadaraUchiha lol.
It got historically locked?
booo
I know :( Wanted to vote on it
21:32
speaking of dumb faces, looks like ZEXCS is back in the rotoscoping business with Flowers of Evil
@JonLin is that what they meant by "nontraditional" processes
@Krazer maybe, but it sure looks weird
@JonLin yeah, looks like a man
the animation seems a bit strange and edgy... feels like watching some from the 90s.
behold the it in its gif form
21:53
@Krazer Creepy.
@Eric uncanny valley!
To say the least, lol...
@Krazer That's so mean.. ;_;
22:20
lol
Shouldn't you be working? :P
I am weak against cats
Me too...
Work is not challenging enough
Needs more cats.
22:33
... :D
@Krazer LOL, it's like a lemming
It suddenly knows that its time has come.
@Krazer One of my cats gets like that when he's bored, lol.
22:38
@Eric what a smart cat
No doubt!
what about the other one?
No, I'm afraid my cats don't do that.
But it'd be awesome if they did.
awww
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