Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

JNat

20:00

@MadaraUchiha I didn't know the Up shortcut

nice

shnisaka

@MadaraUchiha thanks for the info

Logan M

@JNat Same here

Madara Uchiha

@shnisaka Anyway, what do you think that would attract new users?

The idea is to collaboratively create interesting content that'll attract folks from the outside.

It shouldn't be something that one person does, but rather something we all do as a community.

Krazer

tips on amateur anime and/or manga production?

shnisaka

you want more visitors right?

anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/bleach

look at the tag describtion. two lines just to explain Bleach!! that is not enough.

JNat

20:03

anime.stackexchange.com/tags/bleach/info

not if you press more info

shnisaka

the community as a whole can edit every tag.. and add more information.. like the genre .. summary and all

@JNat still short

JNat

@shnisaka so do you mean we should have a complete wiki on every tag?

unless you mean for our tag wiki to be a reference (as opposed to bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Bleach_Wiki), I'm not sure how that could attract more visitors

shnisaka

not a complete wiki. but we can diffentaly add the main characters in the wiki and give some short summary about them.

this will bring more people

JNat

what are other people's thoughts on this?

do you think this is relevant?

@MadaraUchiha @Mysticial @Krazer @LoganM

Eric

I don't think it will help attract search engine goers. The tag should not be the first thing that comes up. I doubt StackOverflow is when you search "C++".

Krazer

20:07

Tag wikis are meant to give a user a idea of what a tag covers not specific content pretaining to it

Logan M

@JNat I don't think it's necessary. We're better off compiling links to other sites which have more information IMO.

JNat

@LoganM I think the same

Mysticial

What's the risk of something backfiring and giving us a bad impression?

Logan M

@Mysticial I don't think there's any risk associated to it, but it's not a good way to spend our efforts. At least not right now at the size we're at.

Krazer

We can link to more descriptive sources but I don't think a summary of characters is in scope

Mysticial

20:09

I don't think we're gonna be able to put together the best tag wikis for every tag.

Krazer

unless there is a tag about a specific one

JNat

@Krazer indeed, which is what we've been doing

Madara Uchiha

@shnisaka How will it bring more people?

shnisaka

search engines I guess.

sometimes I search for ichigo.. not for bleach. for example.

Madara Uchiha

We expect most search engine traffic to point to the questions, and not the tag wikis.

It's very unlikely that a tag wiki would be on a high place in google.

Even if it has a lot of good data

JNat

20:10

@MadaraUchiha do they ever point to tags?

Mysticial

@JNat I doubt it.

Madara Uchiha

@JNat Tags are indexed, but that's not something we should count on.

Mysticial

There's no way we're gonna be able to beat wikipedia and wikia on searches for title names.

shnisaka

I do not know, what are you guys planning to do? a blog or wordpress or tumblr is pretty much the same. why do not you stay on one site and improve it.

Mysticial

If you aren't literally the 1st or 2nd hit, forget it.

JNat

20:11

I searched for "naruto anime stack exchange", and it pointed to new Naruto questions. I doubt we can do better than that. And I also doubt it'll ever point to the tag description in itself

Madara Uchiha

@shnisaka Because the focus now is to get more people.

Mysticial

Tag wikis have shit visibility even on SO... so I don't think it's gonna work at all.

JNat

@shnisaka we need to advertise ourselves

Mysticial

The best we can do is ask searchable questions.

Madara Uchiha

It's a critical issue, we will be at risk of being closed if we don't get enough traffic.

Mysticial

20:12

@MadaraUchiha Is our traffic going up or down?

Eric

@MadaraUchiha It's worth noting that our traffic is still increasing. We hit 300 v/d today.

Mysticial

Based on what I've seen, they won't close sites that have steadily increasing traffic.

shnisaka

if you want an effective advertisment.. then you need to contact anime/manga website owners and make a deal with them.

Madara Uchiha

They won't, but I'm still a bit worried about our user count

JNat

@Mysticial sometimes up, sometimes down. the average visits per day is going up

Mysticial

20:13

Or you can just ping Shog into here and ask him directly. "Are we in trouble or not?"

If he avoids the question, we know we're in trouble.

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial We probably aren't in trouble yet.

Logan M

@MadaraUchiha Our total user count is terrible. When it comes to active users we're doing fine, but we're having trouble attracting people to come and register and then leave without doing anything

Madara Uchiha

We're still fairly new, and as you said, traffic is rising steadily.

Eric

@LoganM That's where I'm worried. Our avid user count is in the crapper. We need 150 and we have 61.

JNat

@Eric 69, not that it makes much difference

Eric

20:16

That's a projection of 90 days, though. Currently it's 63 (I was close).

Either way, I think we're not at the point yet of being desperate.

But we still need to be working toward a larger user base.

shnisaka

I do not think you guys will get more visitors. Most of anime/manga fans go to a website that have anime/manga they can watch. I remember mangahelpers.com, they were really famous but whenever they disabled watching manga on their site.. their visitors average went downhill.

Mysticial

We haven't starting redditing any of the type B questions on r/anime yet.

And we still haven't played the 4chan card either...

So...

Krazer

more visibility will definitely help

Madara Uchiha

@shnisaka That I can agree with.

Krazer

@Mysticial that's a dangerous card to play

Madara Uchiha

20:18

Problem is, we can't really provide online anime watching services.

Mysticial

@Krazer I know. Saved only for final ditch desperation.

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial I think we should do that.

shnisaka

@MadaraUchiha and this is why tumblr or wordpress will not work.

Logan M

@Eric SmugMug is still around with only 19 after 400 days. Not that I think we should follow them, but I don't think we're in imminent danger based on that.

Madara Uchiha

Start steadily redditing type B questions.

Mysticial

20:19

@MadaraUchiha It's a card I've been holding back to see how the site stabilizes. But if we want to resume. Then we can do so.

But we need to coordinate so we don't have two submissions at the same time.

Eric

@LoganM Imminent, no. But it's something to keep a close eye on. We're at "Okay" or "Steadily Increasing" in every other department.

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial The previous attempts did give us some visibility, I got a gold announcer badge on the Pokemon question.

Which means at least 1000 people followed the link.

shnisaka

Facebook!! there is many groups on facebook that you guys can contact and ask to share your link. I do not think they will mind!

Mysticial

@MadaraUchiha It was the wrong audience though.

So we may do better on r/anime.

JNat

@shnisaka yes, we have a facebook account

Madara Uchiha

20:21

@Mysticial I say go for it. Post another question on reddit.

JNat

@MadaraUchiha which one?

Madara Uchiha

@shnisaka Have any specific group/page in mind?

Mysticial

@JNat I'm trying to decide...

shnisaka

@MadaraUchiha yes.. wait a sec.

Mysticial

I'm not gonna do it this moment. Maybe next week when things settle down for me.

JNat

20:21

@Mysticial an unanswered one could be a good idea

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial We had one that we wanted to, didn't we?

Mysticial

@JNat I don't think so... We want something well answered to be a good example.

We could put a few unanswered ones on the homepage.

JNat

@Mysticial ok, point taken

Mysticial

In any case, before we do any r/anime submissions, we need to flood the homepage with both answered and unanswered Type B questions that appeal the to the r/anime audience.

Krazer

I think we'd have the best exposure on twitter

Eric

20:23

@Mysticial This brings me to a question I have, which is related: What types of questions do we want more of on the site?

Krazer

It's suited for that kind of thing

Eric

Not genres or specific shows, but types of questions. I mean, we don't want all lists, for example.

Mysticial

@Eric right now, we have a better balance, but still heavily biased toward shounen.

oh

I don't think it matters. Most of them are plot questions?

Logan M

By the way, speaking of bringing people in, our community ads on RPG still aren't active.

JNat

@LoganM I've created an account there just to vote it up

shnisaka

20:24

https://www.facebook.com/readmangahere?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/mangafoxlife?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/MangaEntertainment?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Manga/103091413063976?ref=ts&fref=ts

JNat

can't do more than that

Mysticial

Right now, the only high-quality candidates we have for r/anime are:
- The Black Lagoon question
- The Clannad question

shnisaka

keep attacking those mange pages.. wait I will give you some anime pages that I know of.

Eric

@Mysticial I'm not sure what the majority is, actually.

JNat

@Krazer you think we should create an unofficial twitter account then?

Eric

20:26

@JNat I think Krazer is on the right track. But do any of our community members use Twitter?

shnisaka

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Anime/112421635436437?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naruto/10573221005?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naruto/103130939727157?ref=ts&fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/pages/AnimeHere/126640230735299?ref=ts&fref=ts

JNat

@Eric I had a twitter account, then I disabled it

I can enable it again

Eric

@JNat Alright. I had one but I was never into it much more than following a few feeds.

JNat

@Eric same

Krazer

We can try link backs to the SE from twitter for specific questions

Mysticial

20:27

@LoganM Is it at all possible break up that wall of text on your Clannad answer?

Krazer

retweets will help more with visibility than reddit

Mysticial

People are just gonna go tl;dr and leave.

Krazer

@Mysticial we can add pictures

Logan M

@Mysticial Yes. I can do it. But I'm still really busy with school.

Mysticial

ok

Logan M

20:29

Honestly I don't think we need to worry too much about this. We're gaining avid users at a rate of ~1 per day, so we'll hit 150 in a few months if that keeps up. No need to rush it.

Mysticial

I hesitate to recommend this one as a reddit candidate. But here it goes:

14

Q: Why are tentacles prevalent in anime?

What is the reason/motivation for the prevalence of tentacles (possibly NSFW link) in anime (esp. hentai)? Did the anime subculture lead to it or does it stem from various aspects (possibly obscure) of Japanese art/culture?

Logan M

@Mysticial needs more pictures

Mysticial

^^

shnisaka

@LoganM I agree

Mysticial

That's would actually help it. And I'm serious.

Obviously stay away from pure hentai, but I think it can be done.

Logan M

20:31

@Mysticial TLR isn't hentai. Just sayin'

Krazer

@Mysticial what if we added mosaics?

Mysticial

We'll see. Post your ideas here. And edit them in when we agree on something.

By ideas, I mean the actual pictures themselves.

Madara Uchiha

I actually like that question a lot (as a candidate, not as what you're thinking, pervs)

Logan M

@Mysticial I feel like this is sort of off-topic at the moment. IMO we're better off discussing this later.

Mysticial

I need to get lunch anyways...

Logan M

20:34

lol this came up when I searched for "anime tentacles"

Eric

Yeah, this meeting ran quite overtime. But we got some things done, at least.

Logan M

Mysticial

um... no.

Eric

LOL

Madara Uchiha

@LoganM Perfect! :D

Eric

20:35

Btw, who currently owns the FB and G+ pages?

Mysticial

There's one non-erotic tentacle scene in SOA that can probably be used.

Madara Uchiha

I do, both of them.

Krazer

@Eric Madara-sama

Madara Uchiha

Still looking for a way to transfer/add adminship.

Eric

You have to invite me to become "a manager". From there, you can transfer ownership, or not. (I don't think it really matters, either way I can add posts.)

As for FB, I used to know, but I don't anymore.

Krazer

20:37

@Eric same here

Madara Uchiha

Lemme see...

Mysticial

From Sword Art Online.

At the very center of the genre that appeals to r/anime.

Krazer

@Mysticial no, this:

►

Mysticial

@Krazer That's a good one too.

Eric

@Krazer That is perfect.

Mysticial

20:41

I agree, it's perfect.

Now get a high-quality screenshot from it.

Or embed the video directly.

I'd say embed the video directly.

Madara Uchiha

Ah, there we go.

Eric

Yeah, I don't think it can be easily shown in one shot.

Madara Uchiha

@Eric I'll need your email

Don't post it here though

Hrmmm hrmmm

Logan M

@Mysticial We can't embed videos, and that video is terrible quality. Someone should go get the BDs and screencap that.

Mysticial

@MadaraUchiha You have access to it.

You're mod.

Eric

20:42

@MadaraUchiha I'll follow you on G+.

Madara Uchiha

@Eric Is it the same email you used with your SE account?

Eric

Yeah, it is.

Mysticial

I need lunch for the 3rd time.

laters

Eric

@Mysticial See ya.

JNat

I'm gonna have dinner

bbl

Madara Uchiha

20:43

@Eric Isn't that from StarCraft?

Invitation sent

Krazer

@Mysticial here's a HQ ver: youtube.com/watch?v=-iXUKBWZeC0

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Yup. And from 2004, lol.

Logan M

@JNat and @Mysticial are leaving. Are we ending the meeting here then?

Madara Uchiha

@Deidara-senpai is your facebook email same as your Stack Exchange email?

Eric

@LoganM Yup, I think so.

Madara Uchiha

20:45

@LoganM Yes, we are.

We will wait with content generation until we use up our reddit card.

Logan M

Okay, I'm gonna go get lunch too then.

Krazer

mmm Lunch

Eric

@MadaraUchiha I'll let you know when I get it. It seems to be temporarily stuck in cyberspace, lol.

Madara Uchiha

@Eric Odd, it shouldn't happen, but w/e (check your email and/or G+ acc)

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Yeah, I did. I'll give it some time, though.

Madara Uchiha

20:47

@Eric What are the odds that it's in your spam? XD

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Zero, I checked. xD It would have been funny, though, GMail filtering out a message from Google+.

Krazer

@Eric I'd expect that from MSFT

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Got it.

Madara Uchiha

Good

@Eric Your first job it to replace the horrendous cover images I placed.

Krazer

@Eric I'll work with you on that

Madara Uchiha

20:50

(Can you do that?)

Eric

Hmm. Good question...

Nope. :(

Doesn't look like it.

@Krazer Before we do, just let me get a quick bite to eat. I won't be long.

Krazer

@Eric Take your time. WE can continue this si the Social Room

Madara Uchiha

@Eric Alright then, find pics and ping me later, I'll add them in

That's actually a bit odd, can't you change the page's profile?

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Actually, I think I figured out how to change it.

When we have images, I'll try it.

Madara Uchiha

Alright

Logan M

21:30

4

Q: Do my questions belong here, or in Movies & TV or in Anime & Manga?

I posted 2 questions over at Movies & TV regarding DVD releases of some cartoon robots and a cartoon super-hero, which might have been appropriate to ask here, but I was uncertain. I asked about where they should belong in Movies & TV Meta and didn't think it would harm anything to follo...

discussion scope

^Worth looking at.

Jon Lin

evageeks.org/2013/03/new-neon-genesis-evangelion-project

that link was terrible

New NGE project in Young Ace

Logan M

Also, here's the question he asked. The other one is about The Tick, which is clearly OT here, but this one would be acceptable IMO.

1

Q: Has the Mighty Orbots cartoon series ever been released on DVD, and why not?

I loved The Mighty Orbots show when it was broadcast decades ago. I would love to see it again, but I cannot find evidence it was ever released to DVD or in any other quality fashion. I know some of it went to VHS at one point. Has it ever been released to DVD, and if not, what might be keepin...

animation dvd

Krazer

Gille's answer makes a good point. It should be by genre. If it's about an anime or anime-like series, out site should be more appropriate.

@JonLin that first manga series took quite a long time to resolve itself

Jon Lin

I don't think the Sadamoto manga is finished yet, though the end is in sight

Krazer

Yeah it looks like 14 is the last one

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