Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Madara Uchiha

18:00

Who do we have here?

Eric

I exist!

Krazer

@Eric So does Madara-sama.

Eric

And so do you, apparently.

JNat

@Krazer very impressive

Eric

@Mysticial Do you exist?

Mysticial

18:01

No, I'm just an Anime character.

Eric

Good enough. So, no Logan, hm?

Mysticial

So what's the topic today? I remembering bringing something up. But I totally forgot.

Krazer

Paging @LoganM

Mysticial

Too much going on these past few weeks for me.

Krazer

@Mysticial Can we help you partition it?

JNat

18:03

@Mysticial we're supposed to talk about content and content managers for our FB and G+ pages

Mysticial

@JNat What else?

Eric

@Mysticial Did you say it in a transcript? I don't mind going back to look.

Mysticial

Since I'm not able to get involved with either. I do remember something else I brought up.

And I talk too much here.

Just wondering if anyone remembers.

JNat

@Mysticial whatever else pops-up, not sure

Eric

I want to discuss things regarding question types that we should be focusing on. Also peripherally the off-topic thing from yesterday.

@Mysticial But if you remembered any keywords, then... yeah.

Or even the date.

Mysticial

18:05

nope...

:(

Eric

D:

Mysticial

Feb 22 at 23:09, by Mysticial

^^ That should be in the next discussion whenever we do it.

Oh... it's starred.

Eric

lol :)

Krazer

I think we should also discuss the state of the site and future promotion if we have the time

Mysticial

So yeah, are questions about on-going series that are unanswerable until later episodes constructive?

Eric

18:09

@Krazer Yeah, though whatever we decide should hold off for a bit so we can get a clear view of our unaided statistics.

JNat

@Mysticial they are not, but they will most likely have answers. So I'm not sure if they should be closed.

or maybe closed and reopened later is ok?

Logan M

@Krazer I'm here now. Traffic messed me up.

Eric

Even the OP is unlikely to bother to go back and flag it to be reopened.

Krazer

@LoganM Welcome :)

Mysticial

@Eric We've been holding off for a while anyways. I don't see a risk that we'll get shutdown at this point. So publicity stunts aren't high priority anymore.

Eric

18:10

The problem with closing and reopening is that no one will remember to reopen them.

Mysticial

@Eric exactly

And not too many of us have reopen powers.

Madara Uchiha

So, when do we start?

Mysticial

Not like we'd want to rely on flags either.

Madara Uchiha

Are we still waiting for someone?

Krazer

@JNat I think we should leave a comment, and keep it open

Mysticial

18:10

nope

JNat

@Krazer and protect

Krazer

@JNat I don't think we need to go that far

Mysticial

@JNat I don't think it's necessary, unless it attracts a lot of crap.

One or two speculative answers is fine.

JNat

@Mysticial ok, agreed

Eric

Our scope is bound to draw in some speculation, whether we like it or not.

Mysticial

18:11

And serves the purpose of showing that the answer isn't known yet.

Eric

We just don't want answers of guesswork and "I think"s.

Mysticial

A lot of the times, I get to a point in the show, and I'm like, "huh?!?! Did I miss something?"

If I find a question asking the same thing, and all the answers are speculative. Then I know I didn't miss anything.

And the "Huh!?!?!?!" is correct.

Eric

I guess that raises the question: Do we keep answers that are outdated?

Let's say we have an old, outdated answer, and then a new, correct answer comes.

Most people would downvote the old answer.

Krazer

I think it's good to ask these questions now so ppl come back and check later

JNat

@Krazer yes, that's good

Krazer

18:13

@Eric I think we should make a comment that it's out dated

Mysticial

@Eric I'd say keep them, but add a "as of episode X...".

Krazer

give the answerer time to change their answer

if they do not, you can add a new answer with a note of the change

Mysticial

"The answer was finally revealed in episode X: ..."

Eric

I'm okay with the "As of episode X" as well, because then it's not a "wrong" answer. And it shows that it's dated. But perhaps a comment to the answerer as well.

Mysticial

3

A: What are the feathers on Rei's neck?

So far, it's been revealed that it indicates how many Empowering Arrows she can fire and that she only has twelve of these arrows available.

^^ So rephrase that to "as of episode 7"

8 actually... episode 8 didn't reveal anything either...

JNat

18:15

@Mysticial ok, I agree with that

Krazer

I added the former

JNat

so we'll need to keep an eye out for answers saying "so far, we know...."

Eric

@JNat Yeah.

JNat

and rephrase them to include episodes/chapters number

Mysticial

Ok. So the concensus is: For questions that aren't answerable until later episodes:
1. Keep open.
2. Allow speculative answers of the form, "as of episode X.
3. Real answers will come later when it is revealed.

2

Eric

18:17

@Mysticial Agree.

Mysticial

Cool

JNat

agreed

Mysticial

I'll do the meta post on it if it's all good.

Krazer

@Mysticial As of Episode X/Chapter Y

Mysticial

@Krazer yeah

Eric

18:17

@Mysticial Go for it.

JNat

so this is settled

Mysticial

Anyways, feel free to move on the G+ and FB stuff.

JNat

what's next?

Mysticial

It'll take me a while to write this meta post.

Eric

@JNat You know the most about the G+/FB situation, I think. So feel free to get us started on that.

JNat

18:19

ok

Madara Uchiha

For the topic of G+ and FB, I think it's quite clear (since there aren't any other serious nominees)

Deidara-senpai

Possibly related
http://meta.anime.stackexchange.com/q/346/99

JNat

@MadaraUchiha (exactly what I was gonna write)

Madara Uchiha

I vote @Eric for G+, @Deidara-senpai for FB.

JNat

same here

Madara Uchiha

18:20

(Does anyone keep bookmarks of those?)

Eric

@Mysticial You may want to link to the post Deidara linked to just now.

And yes, I agree. (With Deidara, since I can't vote for myself.)

meta.anime.stackexchange.com/questions/407/…

Logan M

@MadaraUchiha Agreed.

Eric

meta.anime.stackexchange.com/questions/408/…

Deidara-senpai

I deleted my G+ account lol

Krazer

@MadaraUchiha I'll support @Eric on the G+ side

Deidara-senpai

18:22

I will also support Eric on G+

Next, we need to work out what we need to do on those pages.

Madara Uchiha

Now for the question of content

Krazer

I think it should not me limited to question, we can post interesting anime manga relate news too

JNat

@Krazer that may be a good move to attract more followers, yes

Deidara-senpai

Posting interesting stuff would be necessary.

Krazer

we can also post interesting question from twitter on the topic of anime/manga

Eric

18:24

@Krazer I agree. Seems like a good move to keep activity up, too.

Deidara-senpai

Post interesting stuff to get people to the page, then they would look around and find the good questions and answers.

Posting only Q & A would make it pretty boring.

JNat

where do we get anime/manga news from?

Deidara-senpai

In other words, the content should be a mix of "our" stuff and interesting other stuff.

JNat

and how do we select what's interesting?

Krazer

I'll try to find original content for both FB and G+

Deidara-senpai

18:26

@JNat Plenty of Facebook pages.

and elsewhere.

Logan M

@JNat ANN is a good site for anime news.

Krazer

@JNat we should let the community managers decide this

Deidara-senpai

We could also generate original stuff as a group.

Madara Uchiha

That's another suggestion I received from TL, and wanted to discuss it here

Eric

@Krazer We may want to collect a list of anime and manga that are currently "hot" (perhaps based on search traffic?) that we can pick things from whenever possible.

Krazer

18:28

@Eric that's a good thought

Madara Uchiha

We can create some original content (extreme example, produce a manga), that'll be interesting and attract people.

JNat

@MadaraUchiha like some weekly session on Naruto? XD

Deidara-senpai

My current cover image on FB for example. :P

Logan M

@MadaraUchiha I recommend Ms Oribehead

Eric

@LoganM Oh, god. That's a whole other can of worms. lol

Deidara-senpai

18:29

Krazer

@MadaraUchiha or offer some sort of service, like recommendations (anime/manga sommelier)

Eric

@Krazer We could advertise the recommendation chat room once we get more people in there.

JNat

@Krazer yes, that seems good

Deidara-senpai

The point is that on FB or G+, we follow their culture in terms of content we put there.

Krazer

We can also do reviews on current series

JNat

18:30

@Krazer SF&F has a weekly recommendation of comic book

Madara Uchiha

We have an active chat room

We can use that for our advantage.

What about weekly anime and/or manga reviews?

Deidara-senpai

You could also start a discussion, and ask people to comment on stuff.

Krazer

@MadaraUchiha and/or manga

Deidara-senpai

Who do you think is stronger? Minato or Hashirama? lol

Something like that.

Eric

We could also consider contests at some point, though I'm not sure what the prizes could be.

Deidara-senpai

18:33

Yeah, lot of good ideas. :)

Krazer

@Eric we can talk about it when we get to that point

Eric

Yeah, just thought I'd plant the seed now.

Deidara-senpai

I think we should first see how to get a sizeable population on the FB/G+ page.

Getting that population here should be the second step.

Logan M

A lot of this stuff seems like it would go better on a blog than on FB/G+

e.g. weekly reviews

Madara Uchiha

Okay

So about the content of the pages.

First, I think both pages needs to be synchronized.

If something good is posted on one, it should be posted on the other as well

Eric

18:35

I'm not sure that's necessarily good or possible. G+ is very different from FB in terms of target audience.

Deidara-senpai

I guess we should just let the "atmosphere" on each page guide what is posted there.

Krazer

I think this would be something interesting to post japancrush.com/2013/stories/… on FB, but should we sanitize questionable content for G+?

Deidara-senpai

Though some things could be common in both places.

Eric

@Deidara-senpai Definitely. I'm not saying all should be different. Just some.

Deidara-senpai

@Eric My point was the opposite. Let each page choose what it should do.

Krazer

18:38

We should at least have content guidelines for the community pages

Eric

You don't think the overlap would be very high?

Deidara-senpai

Though, as a community, we would guide some things to both places.

JNat

@Krazer yes

Madara Uchiha

Like I said, we have an active chat. We can use that to our advantage.

JNat

I think it is best to somehow divide content sources between you two or something

each of you would search in different places, and share what you find interesting with each other

Krazer

18:39

We should have a community discussion room too

JNat

then each of you decided if it was adequate for the community in questions

Madara Uchiha

Share cool stuff/news/things you think are interesting to be posted on either FB or G+, the content managers should decide on whether it deserves or not to be on the pages

Deidara-senpai

@JNat Fair enough, lets give that a try.

Krazer

ppl can propose stuff in that room

JNat

@Krazer yes, that is good

Deidara-senpai

18:40

@Eric Yes, I guess a lot of content qould overlap.

Eric

@Krazer Yes, I agree. That's a good idea.

Deidara-senpai

Let's run it for a few weeks and see how it goes.

JNat

so we create a room

where everyone can propose interesting stuff

Eric

I'll try doing that now, if we all agree on it.

Deidara-senpai

ok

Madara Uchiha

18:41

Sure

Deidara-senpai

Yes, let us have the room. :)

Eric

"Community Content Discussion"? I'm not sure it's a descriptive enough title.

Madara Uchiha

@Eric Social Pages Content Discussion

sounds like a better plan

Eric

Perfect.

JNat

@MadaraUchiha yes, that's better

Krazer

18:43

"Community Communications"

Deidara-senpai

Let's pick one and get on with it. We can rename it later if there is a good reason.

Madara Uchiha

I think @Krazer was just kidding? :P

Krazer

@MadaraUchiha I do jest

Deidara-senpai

Uhm, do I need to get some special privileges to post on behalf of the FB page? As of now, I think I am just a member.

Madara Uchiha

@Deidara-senpai I'm the current admin

Deidara-senpai

18:46

ok

Eric

Here is the room:

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/7734/…

Madara Uchiha

After this event is over I'll see how I can give you rights

Eric

If everyone can just ignore my faux pas, that'd be great. :)

Madara Uchiha

@Eric, @Deidara-senpai, add feeds to that room that you feel can be interesting to share

Articles, news, releases, whatever you need.

Deidara-senpai

ok

JNat

18:47

the room is not in our site

it's at SO

Madara Uchiha

I'll change that

JNat

can't it be changed?

Eric

... grr, wtf. Thanks, Madara.

Deidara-senpai

@Eric wasn't that the faux pas?

Eric

@Deidara-senpai Nope. What, you can't see the other one? lol

Deidara-senpai

18:48

oh :(

Krazer

lol

JNat

ok, so that room, aside from general suggestions of content by anyone, is where you two can coordinate with each other about content

Deidara-senpai

I guess it's time for me to catch sleep.. What is the faux pas anyway?

JNat

@Deidara-senpai he added and removed someone else as owner

that's it, right?

Eric

Yeah.

I was using IDs, and Deidara is 99 here, but not on SO. I added whoever is 99 on SO.

JNat

18:51

@Eric lol

Deidara-senpai

so I guess your faux pas wasn't ignored after all. :(

Eric

Indeed. :P

Deidara-senpai

ok, so I guess we are good with the room done.

Eric

Not quite. Madara still has to move it to anime. BoltClock moved it to "default".

But yeah, basically done. ;)

Deidara-senpai

Oh right, I thought it already moved, since the theme changed from orange to blue. :)

Eric

18:53

Anyway, there's one more thing I want to discuss. I'll wait until Madara is done, of course, but does anyone else have any other topics?

Krazer

@Deidara-senpai It's classic blue, but not beta blue

JNat

@Eric before we move on, does anyone else have anything else to say about content of social pages?

if not, conversations about will be held there from here on, and we can move on here

Krazer

@Eric current state of the site and future promos

JNat

ok

Deidara-senpai

Hmm, there's one thing. What options should we use to promote those pages? As of now the FB page has 16 members.

Eric

18:56

16 is a good start. We'll partly have to rely on people in the group sharing and liking things publicly.

JNat

@Deidara-senpai most of them are friends of mine that I forced to like the page

lol

Deidara-senpai

Yeah, well, I was wondering if posting it on other pages is ok, or do we have a policy against that? :o

Eric

@Deidara-senpai I think it's not a bad idea, and there's no policy against it. Perhaps a discussion/notification in the community room, though, so we know what sites it's going on.

Deidara-senpai

Say for example, let Itachi-sama know that we exist, and hope he casts Tsukuyomi on his followers to join our page. facebook.com/ItachiUchihaRocks

Eric

I think that's okay. We'll see what others say.

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