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ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

23:00

unless were in a chat like this

Nordine Lotfi

I guess I may dislike some Unicode char, but...I don't think I have anything against the Ascii set

forest

What word is used instead of an exclamation point? Closest I can think of is よ.

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

ok why i hate exclamation points

dude on a&m asked a question like:

"Hello*!* I need help with a Manga Finding Quest!"

stuff formatted like that will make me die

and then i told him id requests are off topic so he asked another question

forest

So it's quite a recent dislike huh.

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

"Hello! Since this site doesn't identify manga..!"

yeah

hell if they get used like that

hyper-neutrino

23:02

forest

Seriously, you need to watch that Seinfeld.

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

i cringe to the boiling point

Nordine Lotfi

レーゾンデートル - Eve MV

►

the main character (on the thumbnail) look a lot like Lain, especially the hair

if you rewatch this multiple time, you can spot some possible references to Lain too

although, I don't think it's canon/the artist made this official, still a nice coincidence

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

have y'all watched tenet

forest

Nope

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

23:04

possibly the most complicated movie ive seen

i cant even put it in words

rewatch it 10 times just to understand 25% of it

i can't call it a good movie bc i dont understand it but i'd reccomend it and personally liked it

forest

Is it an anime?

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

no its real

forest

"real" blasphemy !!!!!

Nordine Lotfi

Honestly been a while I watched any movie...last one was Venom but that was just because I was curious if it's as good as the comics/old animated stuff

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

fricking !!!!!'s

Nordine Lotfi

23:08

!!!!

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

live action would be a better term ig

pls stop

Nordine Lotfi

my bad; at least it's not Unicode

forest

What about unicode double-exclamation mark? ‼

Or small exclamation mark? ﹗

And of course, the venerable interrobang: ‽

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

oh my goshness

ive exceeded the limits of cringe

forest

Or presentation form for vertical exclamation mark:︕

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

23:11

stop

please

forest

And as we all like anime, how about fullwidth: ！

Nordine Lotfi

@forest that's a new one :D

(to me)

forest

lol

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

also cringe from anime gasps

forest

My browser doesn't render this, but supposedly it's also an exclamation mark: 𞥞

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

23:12

or grunts whatever tf it is

forest

What's that look like to you?

hyper-neutrino

forest

"U+1E95E ADLAM INITIAL EXCLAMATION MARK"

Nordine Lotfi

@forest if you're on Linux (it's obvious but just in case you're maybe using BSD or Plan9 or something else) you could try fc-cache to reload your fonts

I had the same exact problem with japanese font and had to do it from time to time

fonts are weird

forest

It's just the browser, and Tor Browser only whitelists certain system fonts.

Nordine Lotfi

23:14

I see. Interesting, didn't know that

you could copy the font on a terminal though and look at it there, but I guess it's kinda going the long way just to see a font

forest

yeah but then:

Q: Simple way to safely paste text from website into terminal

It's fairly well known that it's very dangerous to copy-paste text from a website into a terminal, as it can include extra text, control codes, and newlines that aren't visible when you're copying it, but which are saved into the paste buffer, causing malicious code to execute if pasted into a te...

Nordine Lotfi

wow...

the more you know

forest

thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste

So when I copy the git command (git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/kup/kup.git) on that website, it pastes into the terminal as:

git clone /dev/null; clear; echo -n "Hello ";whoami|tr -d '\n';echo -e '!\nThat was a bad idea. Don'"'"'t copy code from websites you don'"'"'t trust!
Here'"'"'s the first line of your /etc/passwd: ';head -n1 /etc/passwd
git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/kup/kup.git

Nordine Lotfi

wow, and here I was about to mention "why not change the LC_ALL variable" but I guess that doesn't help much here doesn't it?

forest

Nope. That specific example works even with LC_ALL=C. It's an issue with the browser's implementation of CSS (although it also works with JS), not the terminal.

Nordine Lotfi

23:18

technically you could circumvent those vulnerabilities with a decent clipboard manager (that handle weird input, etc) but I'm not sure

forest

Yeah I wrote a program which did that for the X11 keyboard.

But that's why I asked that question linked above, to see if my other technique (pasting into browser search bar, highlighting it, then copying it again) would always work.

Nordine Lotfi

@forest did you upload it somewhere? :o (github, gitea, etc)

forest

It seems to, since when I do that, it pastes instead as:

git clone /dev/null; clear; echo -n "Hello ";whoami|tr -d '\n';echo -e '!\nThat was a bad idea. Don'"'"'t copy code from websites you don'"'"'t trust!Here'"'"'s the first line of your /etc/passwd: ';head -n1 /etc/passwdgit clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/kup/kup.git

(notice no newlines, so it won't run in the terminal)

@NordineLotfi No, but it's also very specific to my setup. It assumes you're using a specific window manager and uses the X11 clipboard which not many people use anymore.

Nordine Lotfi

@forest I can assure you, a lot of people still use that. eg: people who use older distro like puppy linux, etc

there a bigger amount of people who use that than you'd think ;)

that's why I asked

forest

But who other than OpenBSD users use cwm?

Nordine Lotfi

23:22

I think you can complile it on Linux (there probably a fork that work or the makefile shouldn't be too hard to get around)

forest

Yeah there is.

Nordine Lotfi

unless it need a patch...

nice

forest

I suppose I could upload it somewhere once I'm on the computer that has it. All it does is get a notification when the clipboard was modified and immediately edits it.

So it can be a little irritating when you're not copying from the browser. I did work on a patch for a terminal emulator so that it wouldn't accept paste without first sanitizing it, but I didn't finish the patch.

Nordine Lotfi

@forest :D Thanks!

@forest I see

forest

It's on a computer I haven't used for a while. I'll probably need to re-remember how to use it. :P

Nordine Lotfi

23:25

I did think of a possible workaround, but I'm unsure if it'll work: using less + some hack with inputrc one could make it so on pasting a command, it would open it through a temp file with less, so one can look at it more safely before executing it, etc

problem is, less can execute shell script...

so not an exactly good idea, but I guess I'm close

forest

Well, there is LESSSECURE environmental variable.

Nordine Lotfi

I see :O

I guess it's worth a shot

forest

I believe its purpose is to allow you to open a privileged less and leave it open in a terminal without allowing an attacker on the terminal to use it to do anything bad.

I think vim also has something like that.

But I'm not sure how much I trust it, really.

Nordine Lotfi

yeah, I recall vim do. Especially since I managed to use vim as less replacement once

forest

You can use vim -R as a less replacement.

Or rvim if you have that aliased.

Er, rview, I mean.

Nordine Lotfi

23:28

yeah, but I guess it's less secure because of the vimscript being executed

forest

It's always a good idea to disable vimscripts.

Nordine Lotfi

yeah

@forest anyway, it was great talking to you =) but I guess I'll hit the bed or something

forest

And I tend not to trust passing untrusted input to a privileged vim. If I really have to view untrusted input, I pipe it to cat -v and view it in a terminal emulator.

Nordine Lotfi

take care!

forest

later o/

Sakamoto

23:41

Q: I read this manga but I forgot what it was called can u help me find it

So basically there is a fat ,rich girl who loves manga/comic and then few yrs or months later she becomes skinny then this manga/comic author goes to the same high school where the skinny girl goes but she doesn't know that it's her favourite manga/comic author and he slowly finds out that the le...