@DJMcMayhem I need that game

It's a good one

@DJMcMayhem have you played starbound?

looks like a fun game

@MartinEnder, you've played the witness right?

yes

is it worth getting when not on sale?

Starbound is to No Man's Sky what Terraria is to Minecraft (much more fun, because with the simpler graphics they could focus on mechanics and content). But I haven't actually played very far in Starbound yet because my old laptop couldn't handle busier scenes.

@Riker absolutely (well, provided it's your kind of game, I suppose)

I like puzzle games, I might get it

prolly will wait for winter sale though :/

but I'd say it's my favourite game along with Hollow Knight (ignoring some classics, because with those it always gets hard to compare games)

btw martin, your profile still says mod on CG.se

I swear I changed that the other day

doesn't for me

not on SE main acct

stackexchange.com/users/1793115/martin-ender

oh

yep

for some odd reason that's different from a plain acct

weird

it's not on any of the individual sites nor on chat

fixed

yea, iirc there's a setting to make that description the same as your highest rep site

I just copied it from SO now. the stuff on my PPCG profile is very PPCG-specific

ah

@DJMcMayhem repin? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/39854237#39854237

huh it never was nvm

I thought it was

@Riker it's the most impressive game design I've seen in terms of how it teaches you everything you need to know without using a single word, and also in terms of the amount of detail that has been put into the environment.

@MartinEnder That's a great way of putting it. I just finished it recently, and it was absolutely fantastic

It gets a little hard at times, and sometimes it feels kinda aimless, but it's really impressive how well they mixed open world and puzzle, cause those are two totally opposing game paradigms

@MartinEnder I bought a ton of copies of it a while ago so I could play it with my irl friends, but then we couldn't figure out how to co-op, and then I got kinda lost trying to learn it at the same time. I might come back to it though

Re The Witness: The environment is beautifully designed and actually affects the gameplay in really cool ways. Not to mention the awesome environmental puzzles

I loved the part with the tree reflections in the water, and the mirror puzzles

I actually consider The Witness a metroidvania (in terms of the sense of exploration and progression it has). Only instead of unlocking mechanics that let you progress in new areas, you learn new mechanics (which have been there all along) that let you progress in new areas. It's really impressive how well they pulled it off.

I'm really really curious what Jonathan Blow is gonna come up with next.

Oh, was it a single developer, not a team?

no, he had a team for The Witness, but he's clearly the driving force behind it, and I think he's the primary designer

he did Braid on his own and then was able to hire some people due to Braid's success

also wtf:

> Blow's next project, tentatively titled Game 3, is scheduled to be a twenty-year development period, broken into episodic, individual playable games, each related thematically and deepening in investigation of subject matter for each chapter. Blow stated that the game would not be puzzle related.

@MartinEnder Have you played antichamber?

yes

Antichamber is one of my favorites. It's very similar to TW while still being veeeery different

yeah, I can definitely see the similarities

@MartinEnder Oh! I didn't realize that Braid was the same team

I first stumbled across The Witness because I wanted to know what Jonathan Blow was gonna do next :D

I quite liked Antichamber, but somehow it didn't end up their in the favourite-games tier.

I haven't actually played Braid yet, but I really want to

@MartinEnder The reason it makes the list for me is because it was the first (or maybe second, I don't remember) pc game I played, and the reason I got steam. That, and I really enjoyed replaying it to see how quickly I could beat it

I think I got it down to 10 minutes when I was really good

I really appreciate the non-linearity

@MartinEnder huh cool

@DJMcMayhem yay speedrunning :D ... there've been a few games in the past where I thought I should totally start speedrunning this, but then I always think "meh, but I could play other games instead of replaying his one".

@DJMcMayhem you showed me the weird "inside the walls" trick right?

in the gallery

@Riker Yeah lol

:D

@MartinEnder I'm totally not a speed runner, but antichamber is a fantastic game for it (because of the non-linearity)

It's cool to watch the time to beat go from 8 hours to 1 hour to a half an hour to 20 minutes and slowly faster and faster

But I think the world record is 1:50~

I have 100 hours in it because I let my siblings play lol

@quartata OK so as it turns out I already made a collection of HNS maps a long time ago:

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=601784113

@DJMcMayhem 45 seconds speedrun.com/run/y67rxe0m

glitched though

o_O

yep

2nd place is like 2 tenths of a second behind

That's a weird glitch

I don't understand it

yep

@DJMcMayhem speedrun.com/Antichamber/guide/2hn41#ch4Warp_Glitch

looks like if you tilt just right you can click to non-existent waypoitns

@quartata My internet isn't really good enough to host servers so someone else would have to load the workshop collection and host

cleaned out some of the maps I don't like anymore and added a few new things

Don't know how much interest there is (@DJMcMayhem is the only one who has GMod as far as I know)

@quartata I think I have a few IRL friends that might be interested

I can walk you through server setup

The workshop is kind of a nuisance

@quartata How many people would you hope to get?

Oh, and what game mode are we thinking?

This is for Hide and Seek

a game of 4 players is honestly sufficient

Prop hunt sounds fun, but I really haven't played very much gmod at all

Ok

@quartata I'm thinking of getting gmod soon

you should

shrug

can it piggyback off tf2?

Hm?

doesn't it need to get some assets from csgo?

for things like textures n stuf

can it get those from tf2?

or s/csgo/cs:s/

GMod itself doesn't

ah

It's just that people often use CS:S textures in their maps

just textures n stuff that are commonly used?

cool

Because it has much more variety while still matching most of the HL2 art style

CS:GO and TF2 textures look wildly different

ah

I'll add gmod and hl to my list of things to get on winter sale

dang dec 22nd is far away

@quartata would it be worth it to get the valve complete pack?

i.e. are the half life add-ons worth buying

You can get the HL1 anthology bundle for that

that also includes TFC

ah cool

assuming half-life addons means the gearbox expansions

so get that instead? in addition to gmod

@quartata blue shift n stuff

Yeah OK

I mean, get it if you want it

I'll get that later when I've got free time

It's $13 I believe, let me check

yep 13.71

>.> I really want to want for the winter sale to get it for like $5 but eh

GMod is $10 without CS:S

hahahaha