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murgatroid99
murgatroid99
12:03 AM
Old man yells at fruit
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Rolling up to the McDonald's and getting a Happy Meal and they ask if he wants apple slices and then he furrows his brow and orders a drone strike
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
12:27 AM
 
Private Pansy
Private Pansy
> "Surely (Ostrom) meant 'corporeal' bodies which Merriam Webster defines as having, consisting of, or relating to, a physical material body," the attorney wrote. "Although (Ostrom) and potential combatant do have souls to be rended, they respectfully request that the court not order this done."
Also I had to look up Trial by Combat in Wikipedia and found this
> Proposals to abolish trial by battle were made in the 17th century and twice in the 18th but were unsuccessful.[21] In 1774, as part of the legislative response to the Boston Tea Party, Parliament considered a bill which would have abolished appeals of murder and trials by battle in the American colonies. It was successfully opposed by Member of Parliament John Dunning, who called the appeal of murder "that great pillar of the Constitution"
And I'm really not sure what to make of that last sentence
I think appeal here means that in the legal sense, and not in that it is rather attractive
Oh, oh no
> At the time of independence in 1776, trial by combat had not been abolished and it has never formally been abolished since. The question of whether trial by combat remains a valid alternative to civil action has been argued to remain open, at least in theory.
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
12:43 AM
@murgatroid99 Annoying Orange Yells at Apple i think happens in Annoying Orange
@PrivatePansy well i guess we know what to do then. THUNDERDOME!
 
 
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Memor-X
Memor-X
2:16 AM
 
murgatroid99
murgatroid99
There isn't even a presidential election 10 years from now
In 10 years and ~11 months, there's a midterm congressional election that he's not currently legally forbidden from running in
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
@murgatroid99 did not know about that but i figured he was rounding to 10 from 8, but also can't see him running for any other position but president
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
2:56 AM
He's probably just talking nonsense, like he usually does. Although I honestly wouldn't put it past him at all to try and run for a third term, provided he gets reelected.
which is a horrifying though, but we'd never thought he'd win to begin with soooo. FOREVER HELL YEAR 2016 AAAAWWWWW YEEEEAAAAHHHH
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
yesterday one of the tennis players had to withdraw because she had a coughing fit from the smoke
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
Where do the candidates get the weird accent with “hwat”?
Warren and Steyer say that
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
maybe it's a different stadium but i thought there was a retractable roof which Tennis Australia was actually saying they would close if the smoke got bad
 
 
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Unionhawk
Unionhawk
6:53 AM
@TimStone Interestingly
> LAX Approach: "Okay, so you don't need to hold to dump fuel or anything like that?"
> DAL89: "Negative."
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
7:05 AM
like it almost seems like they were, at first, like "eh we'll be good enough on weight, might be slightly over but it'll be ok", then "oh shit uh, hm, give us a few minutes no we're not dumping now just, we'll let you know when we're ready for final"
 
 
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Tim Stone
Tim Stone
1:30 PM
@Unionhawk jfc
Uhhhhh
> PUTIN WILL DECIDE MAKEUP OF NEW GOVT
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
@TimStone Yeah, control asked twice, so
hate to throw anyone under the bus but unless there's a delta checklist that says like "don't bother asking for a hold to reduce weight"
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
I was wondering why they didn't dump over the water or something (which would still be bad, but if it's necessary) and uhhh "because we lied" seems like a pretty good explanation
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
The dump is probably where they lost 3 tons of fuel between radio contacts actually
maybe not, maybe that's a regular burn rate for 1 engine
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Installing afterburners on my 777 to do neat tricks
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
I also find it interesting that american pilots use "declaring an emergency" when everyone else uses "may day" but I also recognize that this is an artifact of my brain in particular so
 
GnomeSlice
GnomeSlice
1:45 PM
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@Unionhawk Funnily enough
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
> many pilots are reluctant to use the word mayday because they feel it might escalate a situation
...in a way that "declaring an emergency" does not?
(also yeah, you don't get to specify the severity in that usage)
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
2:02 PM
"Oh you had time to say all those words I guess it must not be that bad"
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
@TimStone I mean you gotta figure that most often it's probably urgent but if a controller can do anything for you/you have time to talk to them, then you've aviate and navigate mostly under control
@Unionhawk there are reports that police used a bomb disposal robot to check for threats, you know, as one does when breaking down a door to arrest mothers with children for the crime of living in a vacant building
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
The first thing I'd do when entering a living space after not having a space to live in would be to rig it to explode, obviously
 
BradC
BradC
2:36 PM
We discussed this briefly when it came out near the end of the day yesterday, but here are some of the day-after headlines regarding the new phone dump from Parnas:
plenty more out there. And apparently, this is only a portion of the material that was extracted from the phone
Most of the headlines are dancing around the most nefarious possibility, that this was actually a plot to harm, kidnap or even assassinate an American embassador
with the full knowledge and support of the President of the United States
Yes, the language in the texts is somewhat vague, but that's absolutely what you would expect, even if the plan was in fact to kill her.
"you can get anything for money in the Ukraine"
"we know where she is, what's the plan now?"
just chilling
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
2:58 PM
in cedar rapids
 
BradC
BradC
> “You should hang around! You could have a lot of fun with these boys, or they could have a lot of fun with you.”
> The teenagers burst into an Old Boys’ Network-type of laughter, and I walked away knowing that I had been the punchline of their “locker room” talk.
> Except it wasn’t the locker room; it was the Senate chamber. And this isn’t high school. It’s my career.
"first they came for the lightbulbs, but I wasn't a lightbulb, so I stayed silent"
 
BradC
BradC
3:39 PM
I won't paste in the list. Schiff and Nadler are on there, of course. The others I am less familiar with
This story has crept further into the political realm, now that the President has tweeted about it: WE REJECT THE CHARACTERIZATION THAT APPLE HAS NOT PROVIDED SUBSTANTIVE ASSISTANCE IN THE PENSACOLA INVESTIGATION
> The big question remains unclear in all this coverage: did Apple refuse the DOJ’s request, or are they unable — technically — to fulfill the request? The DOJ continues to talk as though this is something Apple could do but refuses to. I believe it’s something Apple is mathematically unable to do. News coverage should make this clear.
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
4:14 PM
> The US attorney's offices in the Southern District of New York and the Central District of California have charged Avenatti with a plethora of financial crimes that carry years of potential prison time, including charges of extorting Nike and multiple criminal counts related to alleged financial crimes. He has denied the charges.
How does one allegedly extort Nike?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
very carefully
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
> According to the complaint, Avenatti met March 19 with attorneys for Nike and threatened to release what he said were allegations of misconduct by employees on the eve of both its quarterly earnings call and the start of the NCAA tournament.
> Avenatti would disclose the allegations at a press conference, he said, according to the complaint, unless Nike made millions in payments to him and an unnamed co-conspirator by hiring them to conduct an "internal investigation," for which he later requested between $15 million and $20 million. Avenatti also allegedly demanded that Nike pay $1.5 million to an individual he claimed to represent.
@Unionhawk i think he forgot that part allegedly:
> Immediately following that meeting, Nike's outside counsel, lawyers from Boies Schiller Flexner LLP, according to people familiar with the matter, contacted federal prosecutors to inform them of Avenatti's threats, the complaint says. At the direction of law enforcement, one of the attorneys then arranged a call and a meeting with Avenatti, both of which were recorded and monitored by investigators.
 
BradC
BradC
The parts of the Avenatti/Nike story that show he knew he was doing something wrong include:
1. he didn't tell his client about his additional $20m "consulting" demand
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
Anyone notice Tom Steyer’s tic tac toe hands? They’re 13th century crusader symbols
 
BradC
BradC
2. He didn't tell his client about a settlement offer from Nike
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
4:23 PM
Crusaders suck
 
BradC
BradC
So basically, he knew that this wasn't part of a standard settlement negotiation
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
And his reason sounds really like he’s trying to imitate normal emotions:
> "It means to tell the truth no matter what the cost is," he said. "For a while now, I have drawn it on my hand every day to remind myself to always tell the truth. I later discovered that it has traditionally been known as a Jerusalem cross."
(He’s a fine dude, I just think it’s ridiculous that he bought a few ads in SC and now is on the debate stage instead of people like Booker and Inslee)
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
tom and bloomberg have ads in ohio
but like, instead of doing that they should drop out and buy a boat or something
give all their money to me
 
BradC
BradC
4:41 PM
@Unionhawk drop out and use the money to support down-ballot Dem candidates nationwide, or something
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
it's almost like they're really just in the politics game for ego purposes
odd
 
BradC
BradC
Some good discussion of what the Ukraine texts reveal: twitter thread
> The lede of WaPo’s story gets at something I think is pretty key. The Parnas texts released last night suggest that the removal of Amb. Yovanovitch was what Lutsenko, the Ukranian prosecutor, was trading his concocted allegations against Biden for.
> The Trump administration’s special fury at Yovanovitch is sort of puzzling in isolation—this remote, retiring career professional. But if acting against her was part of a deal to get the evidence Trump thought would tip 2020 in his favor, it starts to make more sense.
and a broader, meta-point by Susan Hennessey and Neal Katyal
> Susan: Imagine what other documents are out there that the White House is still refusing to turn over. Imagine what the witnesses the president is fighting his hardest to block from testifying know.
> Neal: This is the key point. And the fact that every leak, every document, every witness that comes forward, corroborates the impeachment Articles. There’s never an exculpatory info in the new materials. The trajectory is telling.
and finally, my favorite take on the infighting between the Dems, by Seth Cotlar:
> The most important thing about the Warren/Sanders conflict is that it now appears that the Trump Administration fired an accomplished ambassador at the request of corrupt Ukrainians in return for dirt on Biden. And Sec of State Pompeo knew it.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
5:30 PM
Oh my god
> Dietrich joins Stack Overflow from McKinsey New Ventures
 
puzzlepiece87
puzzlepiece87
5:40 PM
That's rich.
Light the candles on the SE is dead cake with a flamethrower why don't they?
 
Nzall
Nzall
6:02 PM
Okay, so who is Dietrich and why do people hate her?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
McKinsey is a consulting firm that does, I believe, efficiency consultation like straight out of office space
They get paid lots of money to give companies the same report every time, lay off people, offshore, move to anti-union states with fewer protections for workers
All so the executives have some fall-person to point at like "look, I don't want to do this [false], but it's what we have to do [false]"
 
Nzall
Nzall
So essentially, they're going to break whatever remaining standing is left of the company
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
It's not quite the same here, SE did not hire McKinsey the firm, but it's certainly reasonable to be distrustful based on the history
 
Nzall
Nzall
@Unionhawk It's really fucked up that consultancy is nothing more than a way to invest money upfront into something you've already decided to make a sunk cost fallacy
 
BradC
BradC
6:21 PM
> Prior to McKinsey New Ventures, Teresa was Chief Technology Officer at Namely, and held several leadership roles at WebMD and AOL.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
> Bolivia's 'transitional' regime has just announced that they won't be paying police the wage rises that were promised to them for having sided with the coup. t.co/UpZvFAhQQ0
lol
I mean this seems like a sound tactical decision
 
BradC
BradC
@Unionhawk hmmm
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@Unionhawk lol, incredible
"Look everyone we know what we're doing is questionable so uhhh let's not talk about it?"
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
6:50 PM
So, at my last job, the first year or two I was there, the company hired a consultant. He met with every person in the company, grouped up by department. He came back with this *huge* report. The report was great. It outlined a whole bunch of key issues with the company, including everything out team said.

The consultant made a huge list of fantastic suggestions about what the company should do. Not a single on was implemented.

The tried one, which was to have a project manager. The company had the CEOs assistant become the company wide project manager (when she had spare time). She wen…
annnd that's one of the many reasons I know no longer work there
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
WHOMST AMONGST US could have predicted the President's Big China Trade deal was actually dumb?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@Unionhawk To be fair, they tried something. They just did a shitty not even half assed job of it.
I keep expecting to hear about them filing for bankruptcy.
 
user15026
@TimStone This does not feel good.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
7:19 PM
 
puzzlepiece87
puzzlepiece87
7:56 PM
@Ash The train is very firmly headed in that direction, yeah.
 
user15026
@puzzlepiece87 It just feels like this is gonna be yet another empty faceless disconnected corporate yuckiness.
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
@Unionhawk Bloomberg could run a small country
Ok I looked it up and he actually couldn’t run the Bahamas for a year
But maybe that’s not a very small country
Eh 395K is small
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
8:13 PM
the really fun calculation is to divide by student loan payment and divide by 12
to get the number of years they could pay your debt with just cash on hand
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
I’m trying to figure out Bermuda’s budget but the pdf is confusing me
 
puzzlepiece87
puzzlepiece87
@Ash Oh definitely, each of the corporate responses on meta since September have been passed through lawyers.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
six point nine million years for Jeff for me
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
@Unionhawk damn
How much debt is that?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
could also pay the balance in a lump sum a million times
@Stormblessed $100,000
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
8:16 PM
Go America 🇺🇸
@Unionhawk that’s crazy
Where’d you go?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
University of Dayton, 9 semesters
 
puzzlepiece87
puzzlepiece87
@puzzlepiece87 Not that that stopped at least one of them from being deleted.
 
user15026
8:40 PM
@puzzlepiece87 Yep, they're weirdly hollow and empty. :/
 
Nzall
Nzall
@Ash The more that SE does lately, the more I feel like we may want to elope together to Discord. Not as an extension of Arqade, though
 
user15026
I'm not sure it's that dire yet (also the world elope there feels weird). I don't think moving to a closed platform thing is good.
 
puzzlepiece87
puzzlepiece87
9:08 PM
@Ash You probably know better than me :) You were a mod in the past, right? I've never been one. I'm sure you have more connections than me. I've just been reading meta carefully.
 
murgatroid99
murgatroid99
9:31 PM
@puzzlepiece87 I'd say it's still unclear in what direction things are going exactly
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
9:57 PM
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
@TimStone yeh some outlets are trying to make this about how he's giving more control to other departments before his term ends in 2024 but lets call it what it is, Putin is trying to hold onto power. any restructuring of government by him is only to set himself up for after 2024 to have the same power as he does now
@BradC this line does make be feel ill
 
user15026
10:13 PM
@puzzlepiece87 Yeah, I used to moderate Arqade for quite a while
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
@Stormblessed think this might be an "attempt" to make memes as apparently memes have been used to sway votes in the UK and New Zealand Elections (i think it was NZ, or maybe it was Australia)
@TimStone well yeh, was totally expecting nothing and Trump playing it as a great win for his re-election
ofcause same can be said for China
realyl, just a no-nothing deal that give either side an ego boost/barging rights
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
10:37 PM
 
puzzlepiece87
puzzlepiece87
@TimStone What do you think about this? Should they have sat on them longer? Delivered them earlier? Now is fine? Doesn't matter because they can pass more? Pointless regardless of all other considerations because McConnell and R death grip on Senate?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
I'm not sure I know anything anymore, lol
 
puzzlepiece87
puzzlepiece87
Me neither, I'm not sure what to think about this either haha
 
BradC
BradC
 
murgatroid99
murgatroid99
@puzzlepiece87 I think they waited until waiting more was going to make it worse, so this is probably as good a time as any
 
puzzlepiece87
puzzlepiece87
11:04 PM
> Is sustainable finance the next big commercial opportunity? - an ad by Goldman Sachs
If work was to put an adblocker on our browsers, it would help keep me from seeing things that make me dumber!
 
BradC
BradC
11:20 PM
Very first message: "What should I send Don (JR) to tweet?"
@emptywheel is digging through for interesting bits in this thread
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
11:55 PM
@BradC lol
 

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