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00:10
Friendship ended with Steve Bannon now Chuck Schumer is my best friend
 
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01:16
Irma please accept this offering https://t.co/FPk3ZqzmlZ
cc @kendallJenner
user15026
01:54
hahahahaha oh boy
 
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06:09
@Yuuki dafuq
06:51
@Yuuki dafuq indeed. Also: what the hell is wrong with that fontchoice. the font on that site is just the worst.
 
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07:57
@Arperum the x is especially weird
08:22
@KevinvanderVelden Yes.
 
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10:30
the confession tapes on netflix is like... damn
I don't think I've ever agreed to stuff like this this much.
I mean these tricks aren't stuff that aren't employed
I had them done on me, and I fell to that.
and well
11:39
Bannon: Trump’s DACA decision could cost Republicans the House http://bit.ly/2gY2mhA https://t.co/xWCsUpYySe
Hopefully!
 
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13:02
Some uplifting news:
Spectator in class noticed lecturer showed signs of a potentially fatal blood clot. It was, and she saved her life http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/09/10/how-you-thank-someone-for-saving-your-life/wdjIs3JJZcmX5dQuVFEGVI/story.html?event=event25?event=event25
Damn it
Good enough
@Taewyth @9_volt88 https://t.co/SvhKOCImCw
God dammit how deep does this go @Wipqozn
13:42
@Wipqozn "Marketplace of ideas". Wouldn't intolerance of the intolerant then be the invisible hand of the idea market?
make u think
A victory in the idea war
In fact, insisting that people tolerate intolerant beliefs under some misunderstood principle of free speech (in that, this guy clearly doesn't know what free speech means) would be considered a government idea subsidy, no?
Well you see intolerance of intolerance is intolerance checkmate libs
Yeah but two lefts make a right?
3 lefts
13:47
Actually three, but 2=3 for large amounts of 2.
Or small amounts of 3.
Indeed
 
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14:50
oh wait today is 9/11
did trump go out and do some outlandish claims about that
hm, no tweets today, interesting.
General Kelly probably locked the trumpphone in a vault somewhere
15:42
At The Pentagon, President Trump is now talking through a scheduled moment of silence.
:2017:
@davidgura Is he telling the twin towers about his huge Electoral College victory?
And like you have to figure that at least one pentagon person in the room was in the pentagon on the day
And this gigantic idiot just... god dammit
16:09
ಠ_ಠ
@TimStone Well, at least it doesn't say "Listen to the moment of silence".
16:32
@Unionhawk HE CAN'T EVEN BE QUIET PROPERLY?
I mean you can't expect a man who never shuts up to shut up for a few seconds
YES WE BLOODY CAN
We elected a toddler what do you expect
I expect you to not elect a toddler but you never fail to disappoint
Well you know whose fault that is?
Everybody except Hillary Clinton
16:38
Obviously
We failed her, since she is incapable of failure
Do you think I'd get told to fuck off if I asked her to sign a copy of her book to "Bernie would have won"
That just sounds like needless antagonization. Which could be the subtitle for her Democratic primary campaign, I guess.
It's not my fault that her book is literally about "we agreed on everything, except also Bernie wanted to give everyone a pony"
Where pony means "free public college" and "healthcare"
I mean it's literally not my fault
Man, somebody's going to end up doing that now, and the cult is going to find this series of messages by me and falsely determine that I did the thing now aren't they
yup
do you need extraction?
we're hiring~
16:46
SEE YOU RANK TRUMP ABOVE PERL
Come to the dutchlands! We don't have privatized healthcare but we actually make it work
Don't you?
no
@KevinvanderVelden don't?
Wait which one was the one that's controlled by government directly?
I may be englishing wrong
as far as I know, "the one you get by default, which is really shitty and you really don't want it"
16:47
That reminds me though, I need to call about the upcoming single payer bill
that's the extent of what I know
Yes I believe I was englishing wrong
We already have the framework for a lot of this stuff
Regardless, we have healthcare with companies providing healthcare and it's ranked very highly
As in:
> The Netherlands is the only country that has been in the top three ranking in every Euro health consumer index published since 2005.
Right, that would be how the US would move
You can't nationalize all of the hospitals in this country
16:50
Insurance is also done by companies and not the government
Oh that's right you guys have a like our current system except with heavy regulations or something right?
Yes
That was more my point
@Unionhawk obamacare was inspired by the Dutch model
afaik
also you can and should nationalize the fuck out of your healthcare system
it's called "economy of scale," look it up
So a lot of hospital pricing is set by the American medical association working with Medicare
And then other companies agree to pay 1.2 or 2.4x Medicare
when will irma hit Tennesse
16:58
Which would be fine from a pricing standpoint, except they also do stuff like create 2 billing codes for a thing, say, a knee surgery and a complex knee surgery, which they'd claim should happen 50-50
Except in practice everybody just chooses the more expensive billing code
Probably the simplest solution is to force all healthcare providers to charge every payer (insurance companies, individuals, the government) the same price for any given procedure, and have that price consistent within a geographic area, and preferably across the country. But that's massive regulation, and the right will be all "BUT MUH FREE MARKET!"
@Avery Whenever it happens, it's most likely that Irma will be a post-tropical storm, which is to say just a regular thunderstorm.
apparently schools are cancelled in the place my ex lives so eh
@MBraedley and that's the thing, a market based solution is not something that works for healthcare
Although they could see tropical storm force winds before Irma gets downgraded again.
Nobody wants to shop around for the best price, they just want to be able to go to the hospital
And that's a large part of where the ACA falls on its face
17:08
If you think about it, the current US system is basically price discrimination based on a person's insurer.
And ironically, it drives up costs for everyone.
17:28
@Avery ouch, so are your US plans cancelled?
@badp I'm not really planning to go to US anytime soon so
I do plan to check out the NZ's skilled worker program next year
and UK's turkish businessman program, or just regular work visa if I can get a job
while I will be sending applications to some ivy leagues but I don't really expect too much
...you really should also consider Germany while the going is good
or the Netherlands
schengen needs degree for work visa
I can check out univs I guess, but I'm not great with language learning.
the Netherlands make it easier than Germany to function without knowing the local language
but if you study here you probably can't then get the 30% bonus
maybe you can study in the UK
I really dunno how to feel about may tbh
17:42
I think it should be relatively easy to study wherever
I mean sure ALA I can afford it it'd be easy
the main problem is that, though: being able to afford it
PROBLEM
1) I don't know german (well, I have an A1 from goethe), though there might be english unis.
2) Turkish students can IIRC only apply with the LYS/YGS results and LYS/YGS is the main reason I don't want to study here because it's a very crazy exam
17:50
> Therefore, there is a huge sector in Turkey of private evening and weekend cram schools ("dershane") all around the country.
:100:
oh yes
they closed those*
> All "dershane"s compete with each other in order to create the "champion", the one to score the highest mark in Turkey. The dershane sector is bolstered every year by huge media interest as the results of the exam are disclosed and the students who rank in the top few appear on TV and in the newspapers.
> In 2011 ÖSYM is taking steps to limit this interest by charging newspapers 150,000 TL for the past exam questions, while forbidding television channels other than the state-owned TRT from broadcasting the questions
:105:
*they're still open but are illegalish and sometimes get bused by police etc
I mean we kinda have all of this maybe?
there is a uniform exam at the end of high school
a few hundred people a year or so take the maximum score though
so there's no need for "champions"
> "ÖSS is the only available university entrance system until the number of people who apply to universities is lowered."
17:52
those who do get the best score do get to go to Rome for a ceremony and do get a title
well
that's about the full extent of fucks given about that exam
MAYBE try to make not every single goddamn fucking job require a degree?
just maybe?
there are other entrance tests for specific universities
like
17:53
but those are separated per course
let's go here
so you don't need to enter some nationwide contest or some shit for ALL universities
@Avery so many coworkers here don't have a degree or are dropouts
last I checked over 90% of jobs in tech required degrees here
17:55
once you have some job experience -- and there's a shitton of really great internships avaialble in IT -- pretty much no one gives a fuck about your papers
really, IT is the easy mode of getting a job
I'm having issues finding internships tbh
I almost feel ashamed when I think about it
@Avery ...in Turkey
or is it "from Turkey"
pretty much every company and their dog has a program
> McCarthy wins Emmy for Spicer Spicey impression
well
17:56
@badp Does Google have one dog or many dogs in this context
I'd like to get internships in turkey for obvious reasons
^ long, terrible read about temp workers in Canada
"obvious" meaning "fuck schengen requirements"
@Avery well, that's not going to work for obvious reasons.
I can't believe that you need a degree to have an internship in Europe
I need a degree to get a work visa to get into an internship in the EU in the first place
UK doesn't require that for example, but schengen visa (which is what most countries in EU require from turkish people)'s worker parts all require univ degrees
17:59
Well the UK also doesn't want anyone ever emigrating there
Theoretically speaking i could be granted a business visitor visa without a degree but I don't think that gives me the right to work and I don't want to build my CV from illegal jobs y'know
the more relevant hit on google for "can you work on a student schengen visa" seems to be wittenborg.eu/working-student-visa.htm
@Avery I don't know if "NOTE: Work Placement and Internship students do not require a work permit and their work is not limited by hours." means you can have internship without a work visa
> • Citizens of all other countries will need a work permit. Dutch immigration law restricts the number of hours you may work:
International Students may can do seasonal work full-time (but only in June, July and August) OR
International Students may work part-time throughout the year (but no more than ten hours a week)
You may not do both.
IDK if I can cover my costs with 10h/wk
BACK IN MY DAY I WORKED MY WAY THROUGH COLLEGE SMH HOW ARE YOUNG PEOPLE IN DEBT
@Avery probably not
18:04
hm ok I checked
student debt is probably a possibility but I don't think you're allowed to find a lender in the EU
turkish link -- I can get a visa for internship without a degree
I read that backwards
BUT
I suppose that says "90 days" in bold?
18:06
yes
different types of visa depending on if it'll take more or less than 90 adys
the average internship is 3 months or shorter
my 5.66 months one was an exception really
that said, you may be expected to already know BSc-level computer science for an internship
you probably are expected to know that much
and some basics of algorithms
turkish link -- I need a) a recognized degree or b) <some real complex requirements about what my job is and how i'm getting the job> or c) if I get 2 years of job education or smth in germany, then I can get any job in that field.
did I say that mom was born in germany but never got a double citizenship? yeah. thanks mom.
:C
is that bridge burned?
18:10
yes
she also qualifies for express entry to canada and could also sponsor me but she gave the custody of kids away after the breakup and now she's like "I can't leave them here" and when I tell her that she could sue to get custody back she's like "no he'd attack me more (he's blackmailing and stuff #fun)"
she still qualifies.
So bridge not burned.
But with her arrogance, I'll go ahead and call that burned too.
does sound like she's fearing for her own safety
at any rate I probably don't have the time or energy to get into this
not today
it's a fun struggle~
she's not fearing for safety but well as stuff goes along he threatens her more and more (legally and morally, like "I'll take custody away completely, I'll get restraining order, I'll expose what you did if you do X") and like it qualifies for blackmail at this point and she for some reason doesn't want to pull the plug and just unleash out lawyer at him
doesn't sound arrogant
who
at any rate, it's disappointing that we set the bar for entry this high. "You can study here, but only if you're already rich" is shitty
18:18
yeah
naturally the current weather is not one of lowering bars
everything needs to be as complicated as possible
which reminds me!
I just talked with a lawyer friend!
apparently it's past the level of blackmail
it's legally threat
likely qualifies for restraining order~
18:44
and it can be used for suing for custody~
and the legal proof he chose not to show on court before but he's now using to blackmail is apparently legally invalid~
Turkish laws? =p
yes
though there's so much legal bs involved
also I love love how turkish lawyers don't go all "can't talk unless you're a client bc legal advice"
19:03
i love baffler's twitter person
Some crypto nerds got very mad at us over this piece. I would like to suggest they try having sex instead of tweeting at me, thanks.
@GodEmperorDune I like the one guy who retweets "god i wish i could" instead of the endless "Well, I'm superior to you because you Twitter for a living" or "nerds have tons of sex all the time because we're smart".
@Yuuki hehe
19:18
well that's getting nowwhere
fuck my life
tfw you can create a huge case already and she's still like "I'm waiting for something bigger" and like I asked her "what are you waiting for? for him to stab us or smth?" and she just "Maybe my prayers come true and he dies, maybe the people I sent to talk with him change him"
"no one really talked to him, NO ONE" - "I talked to him" - "oh you're a nobody" 10/10
wait
if he does die, wouldn't custody go up his genealogy tree?
idk
likely would be passed to mom.
I wouldn't be so sure
I'm like
this fucking close to just letting out everything I have and filing a report to both
BOTH are physically and verbally abusive with narcissistic traits. Both are extremely unstable. And both are extremely unfit to raise children.
And EVERYONE that is related to blood with me or them are either very conservative or show some of the traits described above.
sorry for that.
just
this stuff gets kinda out of hand at times
19:37
this is This is Fine.
This is Fine: News Arqade Chat wherein we don't apologize and we have no god
stars reserved for news items
19:57
fine, fine
by popular demand
I approve
actually I'll drop the "don't apologize;" please be nice
room topic changed to This Is Fine: The news discussion offshoot of the Bridge, wherein we have no god, and yet, somehow, every day we stray further from their light. Stars reserved for news items. [eternal-2016] [-gaming]
I like their when it's referring to god
but but clearly it should be Their
not only is it gender neutral, but it can imply a singular or plural god
20:00
"god" seems pretty clearly singular to me
room topic changed to This Is Fine: The news discussion offshoot of the Bridge, wherein we have no god, and yet, somehow, every day we stray further from theiy're light. Stars reserved for news items. [eternal-2016] [-gaming]
@murgatroid99 I don't want to really fight over cultural differences and all atm so you win
@badp I don't think that's what popular demand means
Besides, that was a specific rick and morty refrance that probably only @Avery currently in the room would have gotten
I pray to rick everyday for jim sterling son
Don't worry it has been suitably neutered
Now it's no longer funny or anything
20:08
This is one of the fifty reasons why I should never own this room
Are you using reverse psychology
Is that a reverse answer
18 secs ago, by Unionhawk
No
@badp hm lemme test
I totally shouldn't be a RO here
20:09
I see I see """""no""""" indeed
@Avery agreed, glad you can see it
one day I wish to get to be a RO though
on here or on bridge.
That went easier than expected!
So I can deowner wipqozn.
dead memes are still memes
They're not dead if they burn in your heart
you're implying that I have a heart
20:12
> Theiy're*
@Avery I wasn't intending to get into anything cultural. I was just talking about the grammar
A common typo, you meant theıyr'e
pantheon?
godhood?
divinity
QUESTION
divinitude
divineness
Can we thank god for jim sterling if jim sterling is a god himself
20:14
Division.
divinelifulnessity
I refuse to take responsibility for what is currently happening to this room
it'll all go to android hell anyways
divinionhawkitude
/androidhell the last 15 or so minutes
20:15
@Unionhawk ha inb5d
@Unionhawk oh so you DO want RO
b-b-b-b-busted
@badp confirmed adam savage
No it's like the thing where I do /remove Yuuki in bridge understanding that has no real consequences
well you aren't going to get it by backseat modrating me!!
except instead of mythbusters its memebusters
20:17
You might be a tsundere vita goddess, but I have standards :papyrus:
@Avery simple, create a room!
@Avery oh, that's slightly harder
WAIT
adds @Wipqozn as RO to maid cafe
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A bit too mod abusey
You'd need a good justification to get to :100:
Basically, @badp wants you to give some lion's tears.
Lion's tears -> cat salt -> just if cat ion.
The logic is clear.
21:02
@badp removing @Wipqozn is a good justification
:105: material
21:27
@Avery this thinking is why we have people frowning in deownering as a gratuitous joke
you know I tried to make this tasteful
user15026
..... What even is this
22:04
Sure have some more doom
wait what
The EU moved its database of fake news from a bunch of xls files printed to pdf to an actual database
oh niiiiice
15k pieces of fake news, tagged and searchable
22:28
"U.N. Security Council unanimously steps up sanctions against North Korea" - reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles/…
 
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What the literal fuck

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