This Is Fine

12:08 AM

@Memor-X greatfallstribune.com/story/opinion/2019/02/12/…

> Would Montana still be named Montana or would we be Southern Alberta? Better Saskatchewan?

greatfallstribune.com/story/news/2019/02/19/…

> Some members of the Montana Legislature are working on a bill taking the bold stand of opposing the sale of Montana to Canada

Tim Stone

12:30 AM

Philly DA Krasner's bail reforms, announced 1 year ago, resulted in a 22% decline in defendants who spent at least one night in jail. And even without the incentive of a bail refund, defendants continued showing up for court. https://www.philly.com/news/philly-district-attorney-larry-krasner-money-bail-criminal-justice-reform-incarceration-20190219.html?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar via @phillydotcom

Tweeted by samanthamelamed on February 19, 2019 at 4:30 PM

Memor-X

@PrivatePansy "What do Americans do about the other $20 trillion in national debt? $1 trillion would only cover a year's federal deficit (projected to be $985 billion in 2019)." - well there's like another 49 states isn't there? could sell off another 20 states

GodEmperorDune

12:52 AM

@Memor-X sell texas back to mexico, sorry @Yuuki

@Memor-X looks like the only "deepfakes" reference is the headline and way at the end

i guess deepfakes is just going to be the "kleenex" term for all AI created content now

murgatroid99

1:29 AM

My interpretation is that it's specifically AI-generated content emulating a specific person

Private Pansy

1:41 AM

Which I don't think it is in this case

A BBC journalist submitted a prompt

It is actually quite impressive what it gets right

I wonder how contextual information is fed into the model

murgatroid99

Right, it's not exactly emulating specific people, but it's emulating the writing style of the prompt (and by extension the person who wrote it)

> Built based on 40 gigabytes of text retrieved from sources on the Internet (including "all outbound links from Reddit, a social media platform, which received at least 3 karma")

Tim Stone

2:25 AM

Southwest cancels hundreds of flights as it struggles to get its mechanical problems under control https://cnn.it/2DZdJRN

Tweeted by CNNBusiness on February 20, 2019 at 2:15 AM

Private Pansy

I want to imagine "mechanical problem" is a euphemism for some sort of giant mech going around systematically destroying their planes

Tim Stone

lol

Tim Stone

3:27 AM

“All but one of 30 Flat Earthers interviewed said they hadn't considered the Earth to be flat until watching videos promoting the theory on YouTube” https://www.engadget.com/2019/02/18/researchers-blame-youtube-for-the-rise-in-flat-earthers/

Tweeted by FrankPasquale on February 19, 2019 at 4:50 PM

Memor-X

@TimStone best you they were watching Soul Music or Wyrd Sisters

Tim Stone

rubs temples I kind of get that stuff like, reaffirming your beliefs? But the production values are so bad, I can't imagine being like "Oh yeah this is super convincing in and of itself"

Buns Glazing

Trump administration launches global campaign against the criminalization of homosexuality

Memor-X

3:45 AM

@TimStone i get the feeling it's because either the people just like the Creator or that the videos are manipulative in a way. ofcause i don't know who the creators are or the quality of those kind of videos

that being said, did you not see the trailer guy's video about how the world was going on end in 2012 which was totally correct

Tim Stone

4:01 AM

CBC POLITICS EXCLUSIVE: Jody Wilson-Raybould says she will appear before the House of Commons Justice Committee but is still in discussions with her lawyer about what she can and can't say. https://t.co/XMa4RCPYYt

Tweeted by CBCPolitics on February 19, 2019 at 8:58 PM

I must admit I haven't been following what's going on here at all

But, in this video there is a man holding the boom mic in one hand while walking and holding a coffee and a cigarette in the other and that's just Boss Level work

Conveniently CBC has an explainer

GodEmperorDune

5:55 AM

@TimStone i watched a continuous integration tool tutorial and a jordan peterson video was up next

this was on incognito mode

today

> The ethics commissioner is investigating whether there was a breach of Section 9 of the Conflict of Interest Act. It prohibits any official responsible for high-level decision-making in government from seeking to influence the decision of another person so as to "improperly further another person's private interests."

uhhhh how do we implement this thing here?

Buns Glazing

11:18 AM

> the campaign was conceived partly in response to the recent reported execution by hanging of a young gay man in Iran, the Trump administration’s top geopolitical foe.

Did that actually happen because that's fucked

Who still hangs people in 2019, for starters

Second of all that seems like tricky wording, was he hanged because he was gay or was he actually a criminal

Nzall

@BunsGlazing In a country like Iran where Sharia law is the default, there isn't a difference

Buns Glazing

That's bullshit. Hence the campaign I guess

Well it seems like a good start

Nzall

I googled it, Iran has the death penalty for homosexuality

Buns Glazing

wtf

Ave

Oh yeah I should check if it's legal in kazakhstan

Buns Glazing

11:37 AM

Well it looks like the US is trying to push to end that worldwide

Which like.. about time?

Nzall

@Ave same-sex sexual activity is legal since 1998, but they don't have gay marriage or anything like that

Ave

@Nzall okay, good, I won't be in trouble when I transfer through it.

Buns Glazing

I would just avoid having sex while passing through a country that criminalizes it

Ave

It's more than that, really.

Even if I don't have same sex sex in the country (I won't), the laws still help me know if being LGBT is seen as absolutely unacceptable or not.

Buns Glazing

It's good to be aware

Nzall

11:49 AM

@Ave Are you passing by plane? As in transfer?

Ave

@Nzall yes, but as I'll have a long duration between my flights I'll need to enter the country

kazakhstan doesn't require a visa for turkish passport holders, and when I asked kazakhstan embassy if I'll need proof of having-place-to-sleep (such as hotel reservation) they simply said that Turkey is visa-free (which doesn't answer my question, but eh, if they needed it, they'd say it I guess)

so yeah I won't get a hotel reservation, I'll just waste time in airport anyways

Buns Glazing

@Ave keep it in your pants 🔒

Oh wait no, it's okay there. I wasn't reading right

I don't know much about traveling. Only been out of my country a few times

And just to the US

Ave

@BunsGlazing again, I'm not implying that I'll have sex, I won't.

Buns Glazing

It was a joke

I know you won't. Just be careful

Ave

I've had friends and partners get harassed (even by airport staff) for being LGBT.

I had to pay 20% more to my ticket just to not fly through a country (and agreed to a 19 hour transfer period) where I wouldn't risk being executed for being LGBT. It's no joking matter, seriously.

Mad Scientist

12:47 PM

Crazy Bernie has just entered the race. I wish him well!

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on February 20, 2019 at 12:07 PM

so that's the best nickname he could come up with in all that executive time?

Private Pansy

@MadScientist Better than Nancy?

Buns Glazing

1:18 PM

News?

😅

I'm honestly surprised it took him this long

That's really unprofessional

MBraedley

@MadScientist I think it's the same one he used during the primaries

Tim Stone

1:51 PM

The future is now, specifically that Nike didn't QA the *android* version of their Adapt app as thoroughly as their iOS app, and all customers with Android devices now have bricked shoes due to broken firmware update routine. @internetofshit

Tweeted by Jaxbot on February 18, 2019 at 10:59 PM

:|

The New York Times reporting is false. They are a true ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on February 20, 2019 at 1:49 PM

Oh good we're doing this again

Wonder how many reporters will get shot or sent bombs this time

Buns Glazing

AI can instantly find Waldo

There's Waldo is a robot that finds Waldo

►

Tim Stone

Secret mic in Nest gear wasn't supposed to be a secret, says Google, we just forgot to tell anyone http://reg.cx/2RJz

Tweeted by TheRegister on February 20, 2019 at 2:01 PM

Frank

2:18 PM

@TimStone Him not liking it doesn't make it false.

@Memor-X I don't think we actually have a trillion dollars to buy it.

BradC

2:36 PM

Conservative legal experts argue that Congress can't investigate Donald Trump because all the investigations would interfere with his job. @jonathanchait writes https://nym.ag/2SMU2H5

Tweeted by NYMag on February 20, 2019 at 12:29 PM

actual headline: "Trump’s New Defense: Congress Can’t Investigate Because There Are Too Many Crimes"

Russian President Vladimir Putin warned it would aim new advanced weapons against the U.S. should it deploy intermediate-range missiles in Europe, raising the stakes after the break down of a Cold War-era nuclear treaty https://on.wsj.com/2DZpRlw

Tweeted by WSJ on February 20, 2019 at 1:37 PM

Tim Stone

@puzzlepiece87 lmao as if on cue

@Unionhawk We know now and jfc :/

Unionhawk

is it a number greater than sixty

Tim Stone

It is not. It is higher than Van Dyke's count, though

Unionhawk

per capita though it's less then

christ

Tim Stone

2:51 PM

I guess there's an open question of how many rounds they fired, since this is just the number that hit him, but given that they were able to hit him in and around the face multiple times I suspect they did not miss too many shots

Unionhawk

the question of how many they fired probably corresponds to how many bullets a police gun holds (which is apparently greater than or equal to 16 since at least I don't remember Jason reloading in his video)

Tim Stone

> She said she's disappointed by the police's failure — more than a week after the shooting — to even call McCoy's family and identify him as the person who died that night at the Taco Bell

> "We only know," Nold said, "because we've seen him in the mortuary."

Tim Stone

3:06 PM

O.C. Lawmaker Proposes New Lanes on 5 Fwy With No Speed Limit as Alternative to High-Speed Rail http://bit.ly/2DXyvkx

Tweeted by KTLAMorningNews on February 19, 2019 at 11:32 PM

What could go wrong?

Unionhawk

ah yes because the speed limit governs the rate of travel on the 5

Tim Stone

I think the speed limit becomes 0 once someone plows into the median at 130 mph anyway

> “You’ve got a lot of open space between the north and southbound lanes,” Moorlach told KTLA in an interview Tuesday. “So why don’t we just go ahead and build four lanes, two north, two south … and then the drivers on those two lanes would be able to use any speed that they wish.”

lmao

> Moorlach told KTLA he came up with the idea in part to help ease traffic and reduce greenhouse gases

Unionhawk

I mean it looks like you might have a lane's worth of left shoulder each in that picture but certainly not 2 each

and also look ahead where it becomes an overpass and you lose that space altogether

Tim Stone

He's referring to the stretches elsewhere I think, where they have a large grass median because if you put opposing lanes directly next to each other on roads with high speed limits people die

Unionhawk

anybody who thinks building more highway will "fix traffic" just flat out doesn't know how traffic works lol

Tim Stone

3:15 PM

BREAKING: Supreme Court rules that excessive fines clause applies to states and local governments, curbing their power to levy fines and seize property. Opinion by Justice Ginsburg.

Tweeted by GregStohr on February 20, 2019 at 3:03 PM

Unanimous decision

Unionhawk

oh shit I hope this impacts the local 26 in a 25 speed camera village

(they're in the process of suing the state of ohio for telling them to stop last I checked)

Nzall

@TimStone Does this do anything about the absurd civil forfeiture seizings that are such a hot topic lately?

Unionhawk

if only there were some variety of law podcast where I could listen to people who are smarter than me talk about cool sounding decisions like this one

Nzall

Like those people that get their car searched on accusations of drug trafficking and get their money taken away because they say it's drug money?

Tim Stone

@Nzall I don't know the specific scope here, we'll probably get an explainer later

puzzlepiece87

3:18 PM

@TimStone Pretty much how I feel about stories about stories like these. The theses of those stories are all teens going "Well we're tired of biased mainstream media so we're parsing it our own way with unbiased sources." and I'm looking at the ones they are championing and going "Yeah, I hate to break it to you, but..."

Unionhawk

and talk about how they're surprised this didn't go 6-3 with thomas, gorsuch, and kavanaugh dissenting on the grounds that actually law enforcement is exempt from all laws

puzzlepiece87

Tfw you think you are discerning but you instead go for whatever meme/junk account hits your eyeballs first.

Unionhawk

with the dissent written by thomas with his weird self-jurisprudence "as I have previously written" bullshit

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune IIRC, Texas is actually one of the vanishingly few Deep South states that actually contributes more to the federal government than it receives.

We should probably sell Mississippi though.

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk lol well funnily enough Thomas did have a special take here

Thomas concurs in the judgment, but would apparently hold that the right against excessive fines applies only to American *citizens.* That's because he thinks the right applies to the states through the Privileges or Immunities Clause, which does not protect non-citizens.

Tweeted by mjs_DC on February 20, 2019 at 3:21 PM in reply to mjs_DC

Unionhawk

3:24 PM

...

"the law only applies to certain people" clarence thomas 2019

and 2018, 2017, ..., 1991

Tim Stone

Oh, and somehow I only just heard about this? But it's pretty crazy!

> Swedish ambassador to China recalled after bizarre meeting over detained bookseller

She's apparently being investigated by Swedish special police now?

Unionhawk

I still can't believe that thomas found a way to bring his "according to the federalist papers" style to a 9-0 concurrence

that's incredible

Tim Stone

tl;dr here being that the Swedish ambassador to China set up a meeting with the daughter of an arrested Chinese dissident wherein Chinese businessmen essentially tried to buy the daughter's silence

puzzlepiece87

@TimStone Can't wait for her to run out of money since she was kicked off PayPal.

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune I wouldn't say no to selling us to Canada though.

Actually, yeah I'm okay with selling us to Mexico too.

Get me away from Mississippi.

> A recent survey by scientists affiliated with Ocean Cleanup, a group developing technologies to reduce ocean plastic, offers one answer. Using surface samples and aerial surveys, the group determined that at least 46 percent of the plastic in the garbage patch by weight comes from a single product: fishing nets. Other fishing gear makes up a good chunk of the rest.

> Media: everyone stop using plastic because you're polluting the environment
> Also Media: but buy lots of fish and support the fishing industry which accounts for most of the plastic waste in the ocean

puzzlepiece87

3:44 PM

@Yuuki Which media has been saying to buy lots of fish? Not denying but haven't seen that.

Yuuki

@puzzlepiece87 It's more of a dietary thing.

Which, to be fair, makes sense because cows are really taxing on the environment.

Plenty of health and environmentalist mags talk about eating more fish than other livestock.

Again, makes sense. But if you're going to tell people to eat more fish, you should also educate them on where to source their fish.

Nzall

Breaking: Supreme Court rules 9-0 that the 8th Amendment's protections against excessive fines and fees is incorporated to the states, in case of Indiana man whose Land Rover was seized through asset forfeiture https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-1091_5536.pdf

Tweeted by cjciaramella on February 20, 2019 at 3:33 PM

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone I mean that part of the 5 could use more lanes, it’s a mess right now. But long term we need mass transit

Unionhawk

Adding a whole lane isn't even a short-term project

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone yeah the picture is of a different part of the 5

Unionhawk

3:54 PM

75 through cincinnati has been under some variety of construction since the beginning of time

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk it’s like 36 months, depending on how far and what they have to do

Unionhawk

Yeah that's three years

if my math is right

it's a long ass time to be in the process of applying a band aid

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune Increasing lanes won't improve congestion though.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki nope it won’t

But it’s not like there are a lot of alternative routes through the location he mentioned

MBraedley

@Nzall I haven't read the entire decision, but so far it looks like states and municipalities won't have to get rid civil forfeiture entirely, but the effect of the forfeiture will need to be reasonable.

GodEmperorDune

4:01 PM

@Yuuki sorry there is a no return policy on ted cruz, eh

@Yuuki seafood watch app is decent for this

BradC

4:15 PM

Reminder: one of the Democratic presidential hopefuls has been described by former staffers, colleagues, and members of the media as follows: An asshole; Just unnecessarily an asshole; Unbelievably abusive to subordinates; Would make an awful president.

Tweeted by kate_manne on February 19, 2019 at 12:50 PM

Worthwhile thread

Any guesses as to who? Nope, not Klobuchar; not Gillibrand; not Harris; not Warren. The correct answer is, Bernie Sanders. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/yes-millennials-we-have-gender-biases-against-hillary_us_580aa5abe4b099c4343195f4

Tweeted by kate_manne on February 19, 2019 at 12:51 PM in reply to kate_manne

Private Pansy

Did the President of the United States really call high speed rail ‘Fast Train’ like a five year old?

GodEmperorDune

@PrivatePansy is he making fun of it or promoting it?

Private Pansy

The failed Fast Train project in California, where the cost overruns are becoming world record setting, is hundreds of times more expensive than the desperately needed Wall!

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on February 19, 2019 at 1:53 PM

GodEmperorDune

@PrivatePansy lololol world record setting cost overruns

Private Pansy

These are English words, but somehow the tweet doesn’t read like English

The sentence structure and grammar is so bad

Although if POTUS wants to make alliteration his thing from now on I think I can get behind that

Tim Stone

4:34 PM

TX AG, @KenPaxtonTX is the only statewide official in USA serving while under felony indictment. State Sen wife, @SenPaxton, is trying to gut the law he broke (& voted for in House). Paxtons are corrupt enterprise. Where is the ethics investigation? https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas-legislature/2019/02/19/texas-state-sen-angela-paxton-defends-bill-hand-husbands-agency-new-powers

Tweeted by LSPmatt on February 20, 2019 at 1:33 PM

Oh right, I forgot Paxton was under felony indictment, lol

Yuuki

F—k Ken Paxton.

MBraedley

What was he indicted for?

Tim Stone

Two counts of securities fraud

And then some other related charge

GodEmperorDune

4:47 PM

@TimStone is it really fraud if your wife makes it no longer illegal?

Tim Stone

5:02 PM

I love that her excuse is "It has nothing to do with my husband people in my district want to make it easier to invest in blockchain" as if that is somehow more redeeming

Tim Stone

5:46 PM

UK official said it feels like momentum has stalled. In private, some Brazilian officials wonder whether US-led strategy beginning to fail https://twitter.com/flaviajackson/status/1098276893621735424

Tweeted by lrozen on February 20, 2019 at 5:46 PM

It'll be fitting if the final straw is somehow not being able to properly execute a coup against a foreign power

Unionhawk

don't worry seth adams is on the case

or elliot I forget who gives a shit

Tim Stone

Abrams?

Unionhawk

yes but the joke was originally getting his name wrong in the same way that president omar did

(she's president now because I declared it so because that's apparently how it works)

Tim Stone

Ah, okay

I forgot about that

Unionhawk

To be clear: I fully endorse insulting these people to their face, and subtly getting their name wrong and then naming their crimes is a great way to do this

user15026

5:58 PM

@BradC This does not surprise me at all.

Tim Stone

> O’Rourke not ruling out being vice presidential candidate

raises brow

Unionhawk

hell yeah I can't wait for

idk

biden/o'rourke

biden to capture the "people who hate millenials" demographic, and o'rourke to capture absolutely nobody

Tim Stone

"Why don't you go fuck yourself, you tiny brained—and I hope this gets picked up, because you're a moron. I tried to give you a hearing, but you were too fucking annoying." Leaked video of the unaired Tucker Carlson segment on tax fairness https://t.co/rmc662h1Aq

Tweeted by JordanUhl on February 20, 2019 at 6:07 PM

Ahahaha someone got the clip

Unionhawk

tucker congrats on having a bill o moment

to play us out what does that even mean

Tim Stone

6:23 PM

NEW: As Mueller gets ready to wrap up, here's what we've seen @CNNPolitics: - Boxes carried out of the SCO - No grand jury meetings since Stone indictment - SCO prosecutors still coming in on holidays/snow days + additional DOJ prosecutors dropping by https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/politics/special-counsel-conclusion-announcement/index.html

Tweeted by kpolantz on February 20, 2019 at 6:20 PM

If the Russia investigation is truly ending I guess it's time to start on the Saudi Arabia investigation

BradC

@TimStone its fine after a refresh, but for a moment the attached pic was just a giant spinning whirl...

MBraedley

@TimStone May have to watch this when I get home.

Tim Stone

Yeah, that happened to me too for some reason

Unionhawk

6:37 PM

Chat(tm)

Tim Stone

#ISIS teen bride Hoda Muthana, who left #Alabama, has no right to come back to the US, says @SecPompeo.

Tweeted by W7VOA on February 20, 2019 at 6:41 PM

Kind of torn on this because on the one hand the government revoking citizenship but on the other hand idk just don't join ISIS like come on now

MBraedley

@TimStone Did she have citizenship from birth, or was she naturalized (and held dual citizenship)?

Tim Stone

I'm not positive

Her parents are Yemeni immigrants, I believe she was born in Alabama where they live but none of what I've seen is specific on that point

GodEmperorDune

did we post the cucker tarlson segment in here?

Tim Stone

Yes, lol

GodEmperorDune

6:52 PM

lol

Unionhawk

FUCK IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE - tucker 2019

GodEmperorDune

looks like a producer or something took cell phone video

this is why you gotta treat support staff well

(if you don't subscribe to the "just don't be an asshole to people" principle and need something a bit more self serving)

@TimStone revoking citizenship is pretty fuct, otherwise the govt could just go "hey you got arrested, we revoke your citizenship and now all the protections no longer apply to you"

it should be the citizen renouncing it, if anything

for the people eventually searching transcripts, i don't support ISIS, thanks for reading

Tim Stone

7:07 PM

@GodEmperorDune Yeah, I mean they can't technically do that, so I guess the argument here is that in marrying into ISIS and promoting violence against America she somehow did renounce her citizenship?

I think even the Fox take here was originally that she can't be denied entry but could be immediately arrested

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune On the one hand, the whole "supporting a group whose stated goal is the destruction of your country" kinda lends itself to questioning whether someone should be a citizen. On the other hand, we don't revoke citizenship for murderers who actually kill US citizens.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki we don't revoke citizenship from hate group member's whose stated goal is to "peacefully ethnic cleanse" the country either

Tim Stone

Meanwhile the UK did indeed strip citizenship from their person in a similar situation

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone the UK is also stripping EU membership from all their citizens

Tim Stone

Ziiiiing

But yeah, the Home Secretary has the legal authority to do so there, which is untrue here

> GOP lawmakers urge Pompeo to label cartels as terrorist organizations

OH WOW I WONDER WHERE THIS IS GOING

🙄🙄🙄

GodEmperorDune

7:10 PM

@TimStone i'm surprised they are not already

@TimStone oh is this a wall is terrorism defense therefore funding opens up move ?

Unionhawk

Listen, we had 2 forever wars (the war on drugs, the war on terrorism), why not merge them

that way we will END ONE OF THEM

it just makes sense

Tim Stone

I was thinking more about using AUMF powers to invade South American places but that probably works too

Unionhawk

lmao

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk the war on druggerism, 3 wars now

@TimStone that is also bad

Unionhawk

as if this president doesn't think he could get bipartisan "lets invade south america"

Tim Stone

7:12 PM

@TimStone Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

I gather that the government's argument is that she was born to a diplomat who was in the United States on official business, and so was not entitled to birthright citizenship. That's correct as a matter of law if it's true, but it's not true just because the government says so.

Tweeted by steve_vladeck on February 20, 2019 at 6:53 PM in reply to steve_vladeck

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk pelosi claps

@TimStone and you thought it couldn't get sillier

Tim Stone

@GodEmperorDune I mean tbf

This is extra absurd given that Trump has spent all this effort telling other countries to repatriate these folks and like he could just do that and charge her with terrorism and get an easy win

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone trump seems to be allergic to doing sensible things

maybe if hannity proposes it

Tim Stone

Ahh my veins

WILL DEFINITELY BE WATCHING THIS ONE: A Former Trump Campaign Staffer Filed A Class Action To Invalidate All Of The Campaign’s Non-Disclosure Agreements https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/trump-campaign-nondisclosure-agreements-class-action-lawsuit by @zoetillman

Tweeted by chrisgeidner on February 20, 2019 at 7:18 PM

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone hell yeah this will be great

and ruin the bodyguard's gravy train

Tim Stone

7:22 PM

Still pretty crazy the bodyguard was paid to say that Trump definitely declined an offer of prostitutes in Moscow

President Trump says Andrew McCabe :"He really looks to me like sort of a poor man’s J. Edgar Hoover. I think he's a disaster.” https://t.co/SMcnqPbG8I

Tweeted by cspan on February 20, 2019 at 7:20 PM

I mean, they still named the building after him, so while this is a technically correct burn I'm not sure if he's stuck the landing

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone if anything wouldn't he be the rich man's J edgar hoover because he was investigating trump?

Tim Stone

I think it's more of an allusion to him doing a half-assed job of Hoover's partisan spying activities

Asked if he's considering replacing Dan Coats as his intelligence chief, President Trump tells me, “I haven’t even thought about it." Trump ally Chris Ruddy, who saw the president in Palm Beach last weekend, raised questions about his future in recent days.

Tweeted by kaitlancollins on February 20, 2019 at 7:25 PM

I mean I also believe he hasn't thought about it

@TimStone She also apparently destroyed her passport

Which I guess they're saying was indeed intentional and therefore symbolic

We are back from lunch, but instead of Mark Harris, we will be hearing from his son, John Harris, who is an attorney and representing himself. #NC09 #NCpol

Tweeted by EmilyWECT on February 20, 2019 at 7:06 PM in reply to EmilyWECT

lol

Yuuki

@TimStone Given what happens in other places in the Middle East (cough cough Qatar), I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS demanded that she destroy her passport or would've otherwise restricted access to it.

Tim Stone

That's true though this was also pretty apparent in joining ISIS I think

New: FL Rep and Trump superfan Matt Gaetz is on a creepy, sustained media blitz about how much he loves AOC. He keeps saying he finds her “attractive” and at one point said he’d “swipe right” on working with her as part of a super weird TMZ interview https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/florida-rep-matt-gaetz-keeps-calling-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-attractive-11090369

Tweeted by jerryiannelli on February 20, 2019 at 5:01 PM

Gross

GodEmperorDune

7:42 PM

@TimStone bruh wtf

oh this is a different creeper than that reporter with the AOC obsession

Yuuki

@TimStone uhhh

Tim Stone

@GodEmperorDune Yeah Matt Gaetz is the guy who got out of the DUI because of his daddy and pals around with Chuck Johnson and conspired with Trump to discredit the Russia investigation and was an asshole to those Parkland parents

Among other things

Tim Stone

8:05 PM

I’m so confused. http://extratv.com/2019/02/20/extra-exclusive-a-glimpse-of-secretary-of-state-mike-pompeos-home-life

Tweeted by Olivianuzzi on February 20, 2019 at 7:59 PM

What

BradC

Thomas wants to overturn perhaps the most important free expression ruling in the Supreme Court’s history. Go figure. https://slate.trib.al/0kPVzKF

Tweeted by Slate on February 20, 2019 at 7:09 PM

MBraedley

8:48 PM

@BradC I mean, "the end of the First Amendment as we know it" is quite hyperbolic

Yuuki

@MBraedley I mean, a fundamental change in how libel/slander works does seem rather major.

Unionhawk

actual malice is pretty key in stopping SLAPPs I feel

probably

Tim Stone

9:13 PM

A @gwupoe scoop: A LT in the US Coast Guard was arrested this week for drug and gun charges. It looked like a run of the mill case until the detention memo filed yesterday. He had a hit list, contacts with white supremacists, guns, and, again, was an Coastie assigned to HQ.

Tweeted by SeamusHughes on February 20, 2019 at 9:00 PM

...Oh

Tim Stone

9:28 PM

Nestle confirms to @CNBC that "All Nestle companies in the U.S. have paused advertising on YouTube" after report on pedophile network on the site - update here: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/20/disney-pulls-youtube-ads-over-pedophile-network-report.html

Tweeted by MattRosoff on February 20, 2019 at 9:18 PM

Trump has no idea about his administration’s push to decriminalize homosexuality around the world, per WH transcript from today’s pool spray:

Tweeted by EliStokols on February 20, 2019 at 9:25 PM

murgatroid99

@TimStone I hate that this is happening and I also hate that very few people who comment on it seem to understand the difficulty in getting a perfect 0% error rate for detecting problematic content.

SaintWacko

@TimStone Damnit, why did someone tell him about it? Now he'll probably try to shut it down

Mad Scientist

@TimStone so the Fox News morning shows didn't report about it, obviously

Tim Stone

@murgatroid99 True, though I am curious how much harm would be done in just starting from a known bad example and purging most of the highest recommended related material

Since per the Wired article the algorithm is very adept at exposing you to content the paedophiles like in a similar vein to the flat earth stuff

murgatroid99

@TimStone So, I read the original (I think) reddit thread about this issue, and the main type of content involved was videos that are reasonably innocuous out of context, but are viewed/treated as sexual or exploitative by viewers

Tim Stone

9:44 PM

Yeah, it wasn't clear to me what the motivation for these videos were

Like if they were being posted by people who were aware of that angle or not

murgatroid99

E.g. young children running around playing shirtless.

@TimStone The questions then are: can you distinguish between those posted innocently and those posted for this purpose, and if not, is it worth just banning everyone who posts any video showing kids in bathing suits?

One of the commenters mentioned posting a picture of their kids in bathing suits on Flicker and abruptly getting a bunch of creepy followers before making their profile private

Mad Scientist

@murgatroid99 as a more extreme opinion, maybe videos of small children on a public place are a bad idea anyway. They can't consent and you can't unpublish from the internet really. (this is an exaggerated version of my unease with people posting their children's life so publicly)

Tim Stone

Right, I'm not sure there's any value of publicly posting stuff of your kids like that but at the same time I've probably shared a few pictures of my son so I guess in those circumstances I disagreed with myself?

murgatroid99

@MadScientist I would not really disagree with banning that, but that's a big policy change for YouTube to make and it would probably make a significant number of users unhappy.

Unionhawk

@TimStone one hell of a list

Apparently

murgatroid99

9:50 PM

And there are YouTube channels run by/with clearly consenting young(ish) children. Should those be allowed?

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Indeed

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 IIRC, children legally cannot give consent.

Mad Scientist

@TimStone It's really a matter of how public the place is, who actually sees the imaged/videos, and how private the content is. There's a big difference between posting an image of your child in a chat room like this, and posting an embarrassing video on Youtube that goes viral

Tim Stone

I am curious how much "going viral" is a goal in people letting their children post a ton of these videos to begin with

Like there was an example in the Wired article of young girls going through morning routines and that...just seems like a weird thing to be around, filming, then uploading to the internet?

murgatroid99

@Yuuki I mean, if a kid sets up a camera and films their self playing music or whatever, and then uploads that to YouTube, you can't meaningfully claim they didn't consent to being filmed.

Mad Scientist

9:53 PM

@murgatroid99 do they understand the consequences? (I'm not disagreeing entirely, it's a very different thing than the parents posting stuff. But it's also not exactly the same as an adult doing the same thing)

murgatroid99

I have also seen channels with stuff like "kid does science experiments with his dad". There, the parents are involved, but the kid still wants to do it.

And I'm not exactly opposing the idea of just blanket banning all of this, but I want to point out that there are multiple groups of people who would be pretty unhappy with such a decision and it's worth taking that into consideration

Mad Scientist

I'm not seriously proposing a blanket ban, but I think that the type of legitimate video you might hit with an aggressive removal might just be the type that's better to share in private anyway

murgatroid99

Well, whatever the rule is, the other problem is that you have to be able to define it in such a way that a machine can detect violations.

The problem right now is that the problematic content now is "stuff that might be sexually suggestive in the eyes of a pedophile", but that's not exactly a rigorously defined category

Tim Stone

10:31 PM

I'd be interested if, when a video is flagged, there's anything that says "And these are the videos we think people who didn't have a problem with this video would like", since that seems like a possible improvement to get more of this content handled at once, at least until the problem becomes so small that stops being useful

BREAKING: Chicago Police: Jussie Smollett is now "classified as a suspect in a criminal investigation" for allegedly "filing a false police report." "Detectives are currently presenting evidence before a Cook County Grand Jury." http://NBCNews.com

Tweeted by NBCNews on February 20, 2019 at 10:25 PM

:/

Memor-X

@TimStone yeh this is getting more fucked up

murgatroid99

11:00 PM

@TimStone I would guess that would just be too much extra work, if you consider all of the flagged videos across all of YouTube

And determining before hand whether a flagged video falls into this category probably involves solving the machine identification problem anyway

Tim Stone

> The Disappeared Children of Israel

Yuuki

For all the horrors that the Jewish people suffered during the Holocaust, Israel jumped pretty quickly onto the "crimes against humanity" bandwagon.

GodEmperorDune

11:16 PM

@BradC wtf

Tim Stone

Austin firefighters are in a cherry picker trying to convince Patricia Okoumou to come down from the Southwest Key building. She has been up there for several hours in protest of family separation at the border. https://t.co/SIkubfWYGG

Tweeted by SpecNewsATX on February 20, 2019 at 11:11 PM

@Yuuki With this in particular it seems kind of crazy that everyone's kind of known about it for decades and we're just like "Eh"

GodEmperorDune

@MadScientist yeah this is why age of consent laws are a thing

if someone is too young to understand the consequences, they legally cannot provide consent, no matter how much they want to do something

usually its parents consenting on behalf of the child

Mad Scientist

@GodEmperorDune I find that more problematic than children doing something by themselves in many cases

user15026

@TimStone That is awful.

Tim Stone

Keeping with the theme of being awful let's see what Jack has been up t...what the hell?

GodEmperorDune

11:25 PM

wtf

@MadScientist it depends on the thing and the age of the child and so much else. Young children do extremely dumb and dangerous things, and science has proved that the impulse control sections of the brain don't really develop until the early 20s

Tim Stone

I actually don't know if satoshis are an actual thing or some slang for Bitcoin and I don't know which one would be worse

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone an extremely wealthy CEO going "lol give me tips" is just a bad look

Mad Scientist

@TimStone a satoshi is a specific fraction of a bitcoin as far as I know

Tim Stone

Of course

@GodEmperorDune Especially on account of all the Nazis, still

Erick Erickson thinks it's totally unfair we're "ignoring" the Smollett developments in favour of the uhh checks notes actual domestic terrorist with a far-ranging list of targets and an established plan

A very normal and healthy perspective

Venezuela’s military attaché to the United Nations, Colonel Pedro Chirinos, has announced his official recognition of Juan Guaido as Interim President of Venezuela. He has chosen democracy for Venezuelans over Maduro’s tyranny. https://twitter.com/ConflictsW/status/1098143231836073985

Tweeted by AmbJohnBolton on February 20, 2019 at 11:17 PM

user15026

@GodEmperorDune Yeah, like....wtf

user15026

11:37 PM

"The general unit structure of bitcoins has 1 bitcoin (BTC) equivalent to 1,000 millibitcoins (mBTC), 1,000,000 microbitcoins (μBTC), or 100,000,000 satoshis. While the exact figure is unknown, it is estimated that Satoshi Nakamoto may possess 1 million bitcoins, equivalent to 100,000,000,000,000 satoshi."

user15026

(From here: investopedia.com/terms/s/satoshi.asp)

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone i mean the smollett development is still not settled and chicago police are not exactly the most trustworthy when historically dealing with POC

how long ago did they fight the release of the tape showing them killing a POC unprovoked? 2016?

Memor-X

@GodEmperorDune add that to how they all have phones with camera and it's easy to upload them to get people who love seeing people do dumb and dangerous things (Planking, Bird Box)

Tim Stone

Yeah, though that they're moving to charge him for filing a false report is at least substantiated. Still quite unimportant next to the actual terrorist in any case, though!

Good god.

Tweeted by edbott on February 20, 2019 at 10:17 PM

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone holy shit

Tim Stone

11:39 PM

Like that seems pretty damn blunt

user15026

@TimStone ELI5 please?

GodEmperorDune

2 hours ago, by Tim Stone

A @gwupoe scoop: A LT in the US Coast Guard was arrested this week for drug and gun charges. It looked like a run of the mill case until the detention memo filed yesterday. He had a hit list, contacts with white supremacists, guns, and, again, was an Coastie assigned to HQ.

Tweeted by SeamusHughes on February 20, 2019 at 9:00 PM

Tim Stone

@Ash A lieutenant working at the Coast Guard HQ in DC was looking to murder various left-leaning people including Democratic politicians, media personalities, DSA figures, etc

user15026

@TimStone That's delightfully terrifying.

GodEmperorDune

the link has a thread with details

Tim Stone

11:41 PM

But yeah, the thread there goes into the details of the charges

Ahhh @GodEmperorDune inb4ed me

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone i mean inb4d with your own thread, does that still count

Tim Stone

Well and the follow up comment about it being a thread with details :P

But yeah, I think they usually just represent someone as "a danger" or whatever instead of saying "Lock this dude up because he's 100% gonna do murders"

GodEmperorDune

nvm missed the sentence where he was

Tim Stone

I mean it's really quite fortunate that these people continually do the dumbest things

GodEmperorDune

if people are going to get killed for hot takes, it's a lot of people

Tim Stone

11:46 PM

A counterpoint here though is the Las Vegas shooter I guess, who seems to have not done a lot to jeopardize himself and we still don't really know what that was about as a result

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