This Is Fine

12:08 AM

in The Bridge, 16 mins ago, by StrixVaria

We're extending our news discussion room trial until at least Monday. Feel free to share opinions with any mod about its success/failure.

Tim Stone

12:34 AM

FYI the DoJ has dropped its attempts to get the IP addresses of every visitor to that anti-Trump rallying site

Unionhawk

Good

Also, what's the opinion on nuclear takes because holy fuck

That's...

Wipqozn

> My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world.

Jack Layton's last letter to Canadians

Man Jack Layton, you were a stand up human being

anniversary of his death

Was the NDP leader 6 years ago

Unionhawk

Like Chelsea keeps saying, we are stronger than them and there are more of us

Avery

12:50 AM

oh my

I've been on a twitter discussion with a trump supporter for like 2 days

replying to each other like every 4 hours

but I may have found someone who doesn't instantly spew hate and listens \o/

Avery

1:03 AM

why is finding someone who is altright who listens is making me this happy dammit

it should be basic human decency

user15026

@Wipqozn He really, really was

GodEmperorDune

1:19 AM

@Unionhawk doesn't seem that nuclear to me TBH

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune it's no less than flamin' hot (tm)

GodEmperorDune

2:12 AM

@Unionhawk the point that a jobs program doesn't automatically fix centuries of systemic white supremacy is a valid one

Unionhawk

But the idea that slavery is a jobs program is dumb as shit

MBraedley

But it's a quote from a news article linked right below it...

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk cliven bundy opened that up

Unionhawk

And the idea that socialists say that jobs will solve racism is a strawman: addressing economic inequalities runs parallel with addressing social prejudices. Saying "addressing white supremacy is just addressing white supremacy" is not sufficient

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk yes i agree that these things should be tackled in parallel

Unionhawk

2:48 AM

Meanwhile the president is doing a rally and once again I want to die

Is this real life

user15026

and I'm terrible because you saying "is this real life" starts me on wanting to sing Bohemian Rhapsody >.>

Unionhawk

Trump purposely ommits his "on many sides" comments while recounting his Charlottesville response at #phoenixrally https://t.co/e7pGUcg8G0

Tweeted by CAPAction on August 23, 2017 at 2:41 AM

@Ash this is fair

user15026

Sorry, my brain is trash

Private Pansy

3:53 AM

A litter of piglets whose bacon was saved from a barn fire have been served up as dinner to the firefighters who rescued them.

user15026

@PrivatePansy This is farming.

Private Pansy

I'm just surprised the article doesn't have more pork puns

user15026

Like I'm sure people will be outraged because OMG PIGLETS but like a) piglets grow to be uglyass pigs b) this is a working farm

user15026

@PrivatePansy That was a missed opportunity for 100% sure.

Yuuki

5:40 AM

> Trump explained that the biggest victim in the Charlottesville violence last weekend was, in fact, himself.

Okay, first of all someone died. Secondly, what the actual fuck.

Private Pansy

Sauce pls

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki its trump

@PrivatePansy TRUMP GOES OFF-SCRIPT IN HOUR-LONG PUBLIC MELTDOWN

Private Pansy

@GodEmperorDune I like the fact that all notifications have the room name appended, so the notification for this message reads:

> TRUMP GOES OFF-SCRIPT IN HOUR-LONG PUBLIC MELTDOWN (This Is Fine)

GodEmperorDune

hue

Private Pansy

It's soo reassuring

GodEmperorDune

5:52 AM

> It’s time to expose the crooked media deceptions and to challenge the media for their role in fomenting divisions. They are trying to take away our history and our heritage.

yeah the taking away our heritage line is a huge white supremacy talking point

and Trump isn't even from the south!

iirc his family wasn't even in the US during the american civil war

so i dunno wtf he thinks is his heritage

Yuuki

Was his father an immigrant or was it his grandfather?

Private Pansy

The Trump family was originally German, yes. (See: John Oliver, Drumpf)

GodEmperorDune

Frederick Trump

Frederick Trump (born Friedrich Trump; March 14, 1869 – May 27, 1918) was a German-American businessman. Born in Kallstadt, in the Kingdom of Bavaria (now in Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany), he emigrated to the United States at the age of 16 and started working as a barber. Several years later in 1891, he moved to the Northwest. He made his fortune operating boom-town restaurants and boarding houses in Seattle and a mining town to the north, and in the Klondike Gold Rush. He later returned to Germany and married. When authorities found that he had emigrated when young to avoid fulfilling his military...

he was born after the civil war ended

but to answer @Yuuki's question, grandfather

GodEmperorDune

7:12 AM

an explainer on twitter's political memes

StrixVaria

11:11 AM

This probably has something to do with the disconnect about what minimum wage should be.

I wish there were more actual numbers in the chart, though.

Unionhawk

12:04 PM

@Yuuki yep

He made passing mention of Heather Heyer by first name only and he's the victim here

Because he never said "on many sides" look here's the statement

[narrator] he did

StrixVaria

Wow. Don Lemon doesn't hold back. https://t.co/wCBQoat74B

Tweeted by JuddLegum on August 23, 2017 at 3:36 AM

The song that's playing.

Can this guy be any more arrogant holy shit

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria Minimum wage being determined on a state by state basis makes sense for this very reason

Unionhawk

@Wipqozn it is for the most part

there's a federal minimum that's been stuck at 7.25 for like 30 years

but like Ohio adjusts for inflation and I think it's close to $9 now

It was 8.40 last I checked

oh no it went down?

Wipqozn

12:19 PM

@Unionhawk The federal government dictating the minimum wage would make sense to me, but only if they're doing it on a state by state basis.

Unionhawk

Or am I misremembering 8.40

Wipqozn

Just a flat $15 everywhere wouldn't make as much sense, since cost of living varies (As that chart shows)

Unionhawk

Ah, it was 8.10 last year

Wipqozn

aka federal government should be ensuring everyone has a basic standard of living, aka making sure the state leaders are doing right by their citizens

which is what I've always viewed as a major role of a federal government. Province/states can implement their own laws, but the federal government should exist to act as a safety valve or something. If a states province/leader are droping the ball, then the federal govenrment should be able to step in and ago "ok no, this is what's what happening, get your shit together"

Like what the supreme court did with same sex marriage

StrixVaria

Man it sure would be nice if the federal government gave a single shit about individual citizens.

But they don't fund the lobby machine so they pretty much don't matter.

Unionhawk

12:23 PM

citizens united~

whee

god dammit

Unionhawk

12:36 PM

"Clean coal...meaning they're taking out coal and they're gonna clean it...."

Tweeted by maggieNYT on August 23, 2017 at 3:14 AM

what does that even meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean

when you totally understand how clean coal works

Avery

Just get the coal and throw to soapy warm water and stuff

Pretty Simple Stuff:tm:

MBraedley

I know what "clean coal" is: it's coal that, when burned, only produces CO2 (and maybe water) as reaction products. The problem is that methane (i.e. natural gas) is already clean burning, and it still sucks because it produces a greenhouse gas: CO2.

Yuuki

12:58 PM

I thought clean coal referred mostly to mining practices and waste scrubbers.

And that the burning of coal itself would never be clean(er).

Tim Stone

1:10 PM

Well, I guess it's not a participation trophy if you didn't actually participate. https://twitter.com/wbur/status/900338745504878592

Tweeted by OhNoSheTwitnt on August 23, 2017 at 1:04 PM

Tim Stone

1:42 PM

ESPN did the dumb

Unionhawk

@TimStone congrats ESPN on successfully avoiding showing up on deadspin

Tim Stone

Oh gods the idiots will bankrupt us all

Nzall

@TimStone Hang on. A fine of over 400 million USD because they didn't label a product for increased cancer risk, even though the only person claiming it might cause cancer is not even an oncologist?

Tim Stone

Yep

Nzall

@TimStone I googled him. He's specialized in cancer epidemiology.

Tim Stone

1:56 PM

He's also getting paid for his consultancy and there's science that refutes his findings, so definitely nothing conclusive to suggest that the risk should be implied for consumers

It's possible there needs to be more study, but until there is, eh

Unionhawk

2:15 PM

If you thought you wouldn't live long enough to hear a president mock a guy going thru chemo for brain cancer, congratulations. You made it.

Tweeted by CharlesPPierce on August 23, 2017 at 3:08 AM

still alive

congratulations all

Tim Stone

2:27 PM

Former undercover CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson trying to crowdfund money to buy Twitter to kick Pres. Trump off.… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/900362466860859392

Tweeted by ABC on August 23, 2017 at 2:21 PM

Unionhawk

what the hell is his funding goal, 50 billion?

Mad Scientist

Unless Twitter finds a way to actually earn money, it could get a lot cheaper in the future

Yuuki

@TimStone Uhh... maybe pick a different ratio...

Unionhawk

I mean what the hell did tiffany do

first of all

like, 8/10 count, -30/10 ratio

total combined score -22/10

Tim Stone

Our new national poll finds Trump voters think whites, Christians are most discriminated against groups in America: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2017/08/trump-holds-steady-after-charlottesville-supporters-think-whites-christians-face-discrimination.html

Tweeted by ppppolls on August 23, 2017 at 2:33 PM

Unionhawk

2:42 PM

yep

that's...

most certainly a thing

in the same sense that antifascists burned down charlottesville is a thing

in the sense that neither of those are things

Yuuki

@TimStone Is there where I get to say, "aw, those special snowflakes"?

Tim Stone

Sec. Tillerson says Taliban "will not win a battlefield victory. We may not win one, but neither will you."… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/900367932152102912

Tweeted by evanmcmurry on August 23, 2017 at 2:43 PM

I

What?

This makes my head hurt so much

Yuuki

@TimStone So is he implying nukes? Because you can't have a battlefield victory if there's no battlefield.

Tim Stone

I don't even know what they're using as a definition of a battlefield victory

Unionhawk

What even is a battlefield these days

Tim Stone

2:48 PM

Because that's not how any of this has been fought

Unionhawk

Are they defining the entire country to be the battlefield

and using "we may not win, but neither will the taliban" as the entire plan/reason why we're going to be here forever?

Tim Stone

Apparently?

Unionhawk

Well at least he cancelled out his credibility with pundits who love war last night so that's fine

(pundits who love war is pretty much all of them)

(they're going to get so many people killed)

Meanwhile, last night:

We literally stood outside peacefully for 6 hours in 107 degrees without any incident until police tossed tear gas.

Tweeted by DSA_Phoenix on August 23, 2017 at 4:07 AM

Tim Stone

3:42 PM

"Jeff Bezos vs. Vladimir Putin: Who’s going to be the first trillionaire?" http://hill.cm/eVgY4dX https://t.co/8Xa2yze2BW

Tweeted by thehill on August 23, 2017 at 3:40 PM

But also, who would win in a fight?

My money's on swole Bezos /cc @GodEmperorDune

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone depends on if panama papers catch up to putin

Yuuki

IIRC, Putin doesn't have that much money compared to the Richie Riches of the world, it's just that he also basically controls a nation-state superpower.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki he embezzles a LOT of money

a deep dive into HUD under ben carson

Tim Stone

Is this going to make my head hurt?

GodEmperorDune

i dunno, probably

Unionhawk

4:14 PM

"Even Christopher Columbus, the founder of our nation, is under attack," GOP mayoral candidate Nicole Malliotakis says

Tweeted by MaraGay on August 23, 2017 at 4:00 PM

Wh

But

No?

Yuuki

TIL our nation is ~~Cuba~~ Hispaniola.

GodEmperorDune

founder of our nation like clinton and obama were the founders of isis? i.e. were very tangentially related?

Unionhawk

Til our nation was founded in 1492 and not 1776

Yuuki

Unionhawk

(yea both of those dates aren't precise shut up)

Yuuki

4:17 PM

squints

None of those look like the continental US.

Someone please tweet this back because I don't have a Twitter account.

Unionhawk

Honestly you're smarter than all of us for that

Yuuki

Well, technically I have @GnomePhone.

Unionhawk

It's a garbage website with garbage people on it

Yuuki

One of these things is not like the others. For values of "one" being "the US" and "the others" being "places Christopher Columbus landed".

Tim Stone

Waste Management

@WasteManagement, Houston, TX

Waste Management is the leading provider of comprehensive environmental solutions in North America.

21.3k tweets, 31.1k followers, following 1.5k users

Checks out

Ronan

4:21 PM

Evan 🌹

@Unionhawk, Cincinnati, OH

Son of a bitch all my bios across the Internet are expired now

10.1k tweets, 197 followers, following 1.4k users

Checks out

Unionhawk

Huh

Chat highlighted the @ in that onebox

GodEmperorDune

@Ronan damn i'm only following 300 people, i need to up my game

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Remoted into your desktop and took a screenshot as proof.

Unionhawk

No you fool

GodEmperorDune

hue

Unionhawk

4:23 PM

That's the wrong color even

Yuuki

Well, excuuuuuuse me princess.

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk hence the hue

Unionhawk

At least spend time applying style background-color: whatever

GodEmperorDune

.@dan_kammen resigns as Trump science envoy. https://t.co/2WJ2mxnHNg

Tweeted by RyanLizza on August 23, 2017 at 4:11 PM

Tim Stone

Oh this timeline shakes head

GodEmperorDune

4:26 PM

if i were to resign from the trump admin i would totally make the first letter of each paragraph spell out harambe

Yuuki

> Trump science

I'd prefer that we not have any advances in the field of Trump science.

Tim Stone

No no, he was the science envoy, so he had to go to science like in 300 and scream "THIS IS 'MURICA!"

Which is totally backwards to how that actually went but go with it, I'm very tired today

Mad Scientist

4:50 PM

White House has paperwork ready for Joe Arpaio pardon

Unionhawk

ofc

GodEmperorDune

@MadScientist goddammit

Mad Scientist

Listening to that part of the speech, it was obvious that he's still planning to pardon him. There might be a small chance someone sane might convince him not to, but I really doubt that

GodEmperorDune

it fits with his theme

a sample trump admin resignation letter, designed for @ashleyfeinberg

Unionhawk

6:34 PM

@GodEmperorDune If I see one more acrostic resignation I'm going to vomit

Avery

6:56 PM

> One of the talking points is that Arpaio served his country for 50 years in the military, the Drug Enforcement Administration and as Arizona's Maricopa County sheriff, and that it is not appropriate to send him to prison for "enforcing the law" and "working to keep people safe."

> that it is not appropriate to send him to prison for "enforcing the law"

let's make concentration camps (tent city)!

So legal!

Unionhawk

he went to prison for civil rights and 4th amendment violations what the fuck is he talking about

Tim Stone

7:32 PM

U.S. diplomats in Cuba suffered traumatic brain injury after sonic attack: report http://hill.cm/1mHXR8w https://t.co/cUxc8qBq2i

Tweeted by thehill on August 23, 2017 at 7:31 PM

Okay, the Hill's picture person is bad now?

Also that this is a thing that can happen is crazypants to begin with but I'm really not sure what the thumbs-up is doing there

Unionhawk

Tim Stone

he protec but he also attac

Avery

8:47 PM

@Unionhawk oh my, I just understood what this was about

Unionhawk

GETIT SONIC ATTACK

Avery

yeah

sonic always had that look y'know

that evil look

stealing all those wedding rings

#LockHimUp

Tim Stone

10:56 PM

If you happen upon a civil war era Orrin Hatch in your reading do not be alarmed, that was also me. https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/900178702444769281

Tweeted by senorrinhatch on August 23, 2017 at 2:31 AM

thinking face intensifies

user15026

11:07 PM

What do the Legend of Zelda and the American Tax Code have in common? More than you’d think…https://www.gop.gov/legend-zelda-american-tax-code-common/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_content=ZeldaTaxReform https://t.co/t7HAAg7hXu

Tweeted by HouseGOP on August 23, 2017 at 10:26 PM

user15026

Their rationale for this hurts my brains

Tim Stone

Also:

@HouseGOP omfg how did you get a trivially googleable fact wrong by literally a century

Tweeted by 0xabad1dea on August 23, 2017 at 10:59 PM in reply to HouseGOP

Funnily enough you inb4'ed me because I wasn't sure which room to post it in since it, inexplicably, was about games and politics x)

user15026

I had the same issue :P

Avery

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

user15026

cnn.com/2017/08/23/politics/…

user15026

11:17 PM

Someone else resigning with a "secret" message in their resignation

Avery

What does Eclipse and hitler have in common? More than you'd think...

(there was a total eclipse on 1889 jan 1, hitler was born in 1889)

Unlike GOP, my data is correct, and like GOP, my comparison makes no sense at all.

Tim Stone

Wait, 1889 is when Nintendo was actually founded! :O

Avery

wait holy crap

aaand now the gop page is saved to wayback machine.

also godwin's law has already taken over this room

(I'm sorry for that if it made anyone unhappy, though, I just wanted to show how little gop's analogy makes)

Tim Stone

11:34 PM

Enter Rick Dearborn? CNN with the exclusive that he, too, apparently was told of a possible meeting with Putin:… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/900500611308933120

Tweeted by chrisgeidner on August 23, 2017 at 11:30 PM

sips tea

Tim Stone

11:46 PM

this woman dragged someone online and then dragged them on national TV lmao she's living the dream https://twitter.com/CNN/status/900503452278824961

Tweeted by jpbrammer on August 23, 2017 at 11:45 PM

Oh my goodness

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone oh man that feud has been great

user15026

@TimStone hahhaha nice

Avery

> your kids look very cute. your life looks very cute.

wth

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