If you want to call it a different word, fine, but it's a semantics issue

@Mithrandir24601 Not an excuse for misleading participants.

@Mithrandir24601 (I'd suggested "coordinator" on meta, which I believe is what gained some traction?)

@nitsua60 Fine with me - I don't care what you call it (so long as it's not rude)

@nitsua60 Why not coordinator here and in the new "class" (topic study)

@amWhy in the interests of precision, it's probably just as improper to describe it as an "experiment." Nobody's designed the thing to test any hypotheses, there's on observational plan, there's no expectation of post-analysis. I shouldn't have used that specific term in conversation. It's an unknown model. It's being forwarded by people willing to spend some time seeing if it works.

s/on/no

@Mithrandir24601 I have not been rude. I am suggesting this is more than "semantics", using "class", "teacher", "students", instead of "focused study, coordinator, participants.

@nitsua60 Again, these are semantics - if you want to spend your time dealing with semantic issues, that's up to you - it's impossible to make English perfectly precise anyway...

@nitsua60 I was not the one to suggest this was an experiment. It was given to me as a description of what the first "class" is actually construed.

Did I say you were? Why are you shouting?

@amWhy No, I agree, you haven't - I'm just clarifying that I don't want the names to be rude :P and simultaneously shown my point above - I meant one thing, yet that's not how it came out evidently

@nitsua60 Shouting is using all caps. Boldface is emphasis. Please chill out.

Night, all.

@nitsua60 Night!

@Mithrandir24601 I hadn't fully kept up with the flow of conversation; It seems you were addressing another user, and not me, and so I appreciate your clarification in your last comment.

@amWhy No, I don't remember anyone being rude - I just don't want it to be rude, that's it... (I wasn't expecting it to be, it was just a random comment about something that is, I hope, obvious)

@nitsua60 If there is no "post-analysis" about how successful the first "class" has been, then by what measure can we determine how to improve the model, and continue with a better model, based on difficulties with the first?

@amWhy To be clear, if you want words to the effect of 'this is an experiment' somewhere easy to spot and you don't want the terms 'teacher' or 'student' to be used, I'm personally perfectly happy with that. I'm just not particularly keen on spending time thinking of better words to use (I'm perfectly happy with the ones suggested above and I'm sure there are other just as good terms to use). I'd obviously be happy if you were also around to help, although that's obviously up to you.

I admit, I've never taught before (yet), but this is a step to getting experience for me

@Mithrandir24601 Re: the term "experiment" (for this project), did not originate with me. If you scroll up a bit further, I used it only after I was scolded about the fact that this "class" was no more, no less than an experiment, and that this had been made clear. I objected that is this is no more, no less than an experiment, the participants ought to be explicitly informed about that. I, first and foremost, believe that IF this is essentially an experiment (as so claimed by two other users),

I believe it's both a variation on a 'class' (in this case, online chat with guided learning) and an experiment, so I'm quite happy with that

then this needed to be stated explicitly to participants, up front. That's all.

If you think so, fair enough, but I'm not the one to be talking to this about

I've been trying.... to speak with the this room's owner, but her enthusiasm has blinded her a tad with respect to propriety and such. As I said earlier, I am most concerned with the would-be students/participants not being misled wrt how little planning has gone into this offered "class", and that it's no more, no less than a trial.

(Without a disclaimer being made explicitly to would-be participants, we risk making a mess of students' confusion wrt to joining this class, while simultaneously participating in an accredited program, enrolled in a Calc I class. )

Bottom line, @Mithrandir24601, @heather, @SimplyBeautifulArt : Do not promise more than you can deliver.

@Mithrandir24601 I was thinking that having a formal class with one person leading it would be a lot different than people coming to a room for help. For instance, under the model I believe is being proposed a high schooler could claim to teach an algebra course and nobody would be the wiser. People would get very confused about it.

perhaps what this room wishes to create is an expansion of more secular topic driven rooms where people can come to ask questions not worthy for full posts or to create a discussion

after all, what is a course's non-lecture portion but a series of questions, some more intense than others?

if we're not planning to have lectures.... then just make X-themed rooms led by people knowledgable in those areas.

I'm just saying that whether it is a course or a "study session" we still need to have some rules put forth. Otherwise it will get out of control.

but anyways I am always supportive of this

please don't report me this time for disagreeing. :(

I don't want to be banned again. Sorry.

:39793636, and @JyrkiLahtonen, can you both make clear what "featured on meta" is to mean? Are you saying that a proposed class be featured on the right hand side, below the header Meta. Not a good thing. Meta is not a chat thing. So, I own a handful of chat rooms. Can I propose a class in each of those rooms, and be given similar privileges for announcing on meta, and under "featured Meta"? I start proposing a class on basic logic (propositional and predicate logic with quantifiers!

Before any one moderator begins to blur boundaries and allow featured meta post ti list featured classes offered only via chat rooms, it goes without saying that any comment question about any specific chat-room can be discussed on Meta, etc. Within a very, very, short time period, @JyrkiLahtonen, you've opened the door a little bit too much, as of now.