The Awkward Silence

Extroverted Main Man

04:43

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So me and my boyfriend have been together for 5 years we decided that we want to start a family, so 5 months ago I went off of birth control. The thing is ever since I did I haven’t had a period since I went off birth control. We have been trying but no luck, I’m starting to think that I need to ...

relationships

JAD

08:01

Happy new year y'all

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: When is it ok to put pictures of other people on social media?

If you're in a photo with someone, when is it ok to put it on Facebook? Should you always ask first? I asked my friend to send me pictures he took of us. Instead of posting them publicly he messaged me directly. IMO they are good pictures and I would like to post them publicly. Should I ask firs...

friends politeness social-media

A J

08:22

@JAD gelukkig nieuwjaar

Ælis

08:39

Hello people! How is everyone?

JAD

yearning for vacation :/

We have a really busy time right before the 31st, so haven't had any yet. I'll be busy until the 15th :/

Ælis

@JAD Oh :/ At least you only have 2 weeks more to go now

Belle

Morning

JAD

yep

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: Getting wished happy birthday when it's not my birthday?

I feel uncomfortable when somebody wish me happy birthday when it's not my birthday and I keep telling the person it's not my birthday. Person insists on buying me a little birthday cake. How should I respond?

conflicts

Ælis

08:50

@ExtrovertedMainMan Happy birthday! :p

Ælis

09:03

Oh, I just realized that winter bash is over. It kind of make me sad. I wish they would have keep it up until the end of the week

Belle

09:16

I do need to resist the urge to comment "happy birthday" on that question.

Ælis

11:18

In case anyone here knows anything about Appium :'(

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Q: Appium Inspector find element with the path but appium for java doesn't

I'm testing a mobile app using appium + selenium + java I have an element that I'm trying to find (in order to click on later) by using an xpath. Here is the xpath: //android.widget.TextView[@text='Mon email'] When I use the Appium inspector in order to find the element, it works (and I can "t...

selenium-webdriver java appium mobile-automation

Mithical

11:51

...wait a minute

*puts two and two together*

OH THAT'S YOU

JAD

:slow claps:

A J

Ælis

12:36

@Mithical I though you already knew x)

Mithical

I had never really thought about it

Belle

Ezran!

@Ælis Is your username a reference to the realm of the elderlings series?

Ælis

@Belle It's a reference to a series of book by Robin Hobb: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Hobb#Writing_as_Robin_Hobb

Belle

@Ælis That's what I meant. All the books together are the realm of the elderlings. Beloved is definitely my favourite character :)

Robin Hobb bibliography

This is complete list of works by American fantasy author Robin Hobb, the pen name of Margaret Astrid Lindholm Ogden. == Bibliography == === As Megan Lindholm === ==== The Ki and Vandien Quartet ==== Harpy's Flight (1983) ISBN 0-00-711252-1 The Windsingers (1984) ISBN 0-00-711253-X The Limbreth Gate (1984) ISBN 0-00-711254-8 Luck of the Wheels (1989) ISBN 0-00-711255-6 ==== Tillu and Kerlew ==== The Reindeer People (1988) ISBN 0-00-711422-2 Wolf's Brother (1988) ISBN 0-00-711434-6 ==== Other books ==== Wizard of the Pigeons (1985) Cloven Hooves (1991) ISBN 0-553-29327-3 Alien Eart...

Ælis

12:52

@Belle As I usually read the book in French, I wasn't sure about the translation. But yeah, Beloved is definitively my favorite character too :D

Belle

13:29

My fiancé baked me cookies <3

Ælis

Oh, that's nice :)

Ælis

13:58

I have to say, I can't wait for being next monday. The SE network, IPS and the awkward silence are way too quiet during the holidays

To be fair, it would be less of an issue if what I was doing was working, but it's not and I'm desperate :'(

Rainbacon

Morning everyone!

Ælis

@Rainbacon Yeah, you're back! \o/

Rainbacon

Yep, and very tired of traveling

Ælis

Arf :/ Do you have a few days off to rest?

Rainbacon

I had 2 days off, which turned into one because of a flight getting cancelled by the weather. My rest day was yesterday so I'm back to work today

How were your holidays?

Belle

14:13

Hi @Rain

I've been in this job for about 2 months now but I still feel like I'm working too slow. I keep trying to tell myself that's imposter syndrome talking, but it's not quite working.

Ælis

@Rainbacon I shouldn't, but I'm kind of happy that you are back to work. I was feeling lonely ^^ But my week of holidays was very nice. It seems that most of the gifts I made were really nicely choosen, so that's really rewarding (plus, I had a lof of gifts too, so that's nice :D )

@Belle To be fair, you are probably slow but it's because it's just the beginning, so nothing unexpected here :) In any case, good luck with your imposter syndrome, it's not very nice to have it :/

Belle

@Ælis Thanks. I recently read a book about it, which helped a bit.

Rainbacon

@Belle I'm sorry that you have to go through that. I'm starting a new job in 3 weeks, and I have a lot of anxiety about it. I keep telling myself that it's just imposter syndrome, but it's not working for me either.

@Ælis It's kind of nice to be back to work

Belle

@Rainbacon It is just imposter syndrome. I had that too. This job pays 30% more than my previous one. I keep worrying they'll figure out I'm not worth so much money. I hope you'll feel better soon.

For some reason my standards are not always compatible with each other. I think that's called cognitive dissonance. I realize for example that I'm a decent enough programmer and that I can absolutely do this job. But then I make a single mistake and my confidence-house-of-cards comes crumbling down.

Ælis

14:30

@Rainbacon I'm glad to hear. I must say, I don't really share the feeling (days off are really nice, even if the internet is way to quiet during this time)

Rainbacon

Mostly it's nice being back at work to get into a routine

Ælis

True that

Belle

I could do with a 3-week vacation tbh. Preferably on a remote island, no phone, just hiking and swimming and stuff.

scohe001

15:23

@Belle hey I just got back from one of those! 10/10 would recommend

Also @rain remind me when you start the new gig?

JAD

ugh, in the meanwhile I'm trying to wrap my head around this y2k bug in my code. It's doing financial calculations for a bunch of years into the future, and apparently it doesn't handle event dates in january inconsistently. Now I have a headache

scohe001

@JAD are you using the Tinder API? That may be your problem. I've heard it's notorious for giving bad dates.

JAD

(～￣▽￣)～

Rainbacon

@scohe001 My first day will be Jan 28

JAD

I should refactor this to just use custom classes with just a year and month. That on its own should save a bunch of headache

but ugh

Belle

15:55

Someone updated our linter, but not our generator. Linter now is angry about generated code.

I guess I'll fix the generator :)

scohe001

@Rainbacon ooh that's coming right up! Are you going to give yourself a few weeks off between jobs?

Rainbacon

I'm taking a few days. My last day at my current job is the 22nd

Maybe I'll have time during those few days to actually get the comment UI up and running.

I definitely want to use some of it to write some code

Belle

@Rainbacon Good. I would recommend taking a few days

scohe001

Haha do it! I'm glad you'll get some downtime at least though. I'm sure the wife is happy for the Rain-time too

Rainbacon

16:13

Yeah, although she'll be at work for most of it

Rainbacon

18:28

I left a comment for a new answerer, but I'd love a second pair of eyes to make sure I've provided all the help they need for their answer.

Rainbacon

18:55

Hey @Ava! How was your holiday?

Em C

19:13

@Rainbacon I noticed your link didn't linkify so I just fixed that ;) but looks ok to me! it's nice to see a first answer where they've already included some experience and outcome :)

Rainbacon

Huh, I thought all of the help center pages could be auto-linked in comments with the page's route

Em C

I think that one is just How to Answer ([answer])?

ha, it works in chat too :D

Rainbacon

ah, interesting

I just looked in the markdown formatting page and it says that only certain help center pages are linkable via their routes

It's just on-topic, dont-ask, and behavior

Em C

the full list is at: meta.stackexchange.com/a/242306/401104

TIL there's a [main] link.. never needed to use that yet

Rainbacon

Ah, that's handy. Thank you

Em C

19:20

np :)

Rainbacon

Apparently you can link to any site with ([site.se])

Like this: Interpersonal Skills

Ooh, fancy

Though I do wish I could do that with ips.se instead of interpersonal.se

[ips.se]

Em C

20:08

just got 3k on SO! close/reopen vote queues, here I come :P

Rainbacon

Nice! Also good luck, also I'm sorry for what you'll probably see in those queues

Mithical

congratulations on gaining the ability to join in the soul-crushing mindlessness of making no dent in an endless sea of questions

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ankii

@EmC ask!

oh you're talking to answerer

I just submitted my first patch to the organisation I am trying to get into

Em C

@Mithical hahah. well, maybe I'll find enough things to downvote that I lose the privilege again? :P

@ankii nice!

ankii

@EmC downvote questions; p lossless.

Em C

20:20

see bad question -> see bad question has answers -> downvote allll the things

for real though I haven't reviewed much of anything on SO since I started my current job, there's too many more interesting things to procrastinate with here ;)

Rainbacon

@EmC When you say here are you referring to IPS or your job?

Em C

@Rainbacon ha, my job. the IPS part depends on how chatty people are :)

Rainbacon

What things can you procrastinate on at work?

Ælis

@EmC Nice meta answer :)

Em C

there's a lively discussion forum, for random internal-company-engineering stuff and broader industry stuff

@Ælis thanks :D

Rainbacon

20:30

Ooh, that sounds fun. We used to have some really interesting slack channels about cool stuff, but those have mostly been abandoned for "more professional" things

I wonder if my new job will have anything like that

Em C

"fun" is in the eye of the beholder lol.. it's always interesting, but that forum was also the inspiration for this :P

Rainbacon

ah

Ælis

@EmC Ahah, I like it! x)

Em C

my team's chat is always nice though, people post random local happenings and cat pictures in between the debugging questions :)

ankii

was I right in downvoting someone twice to push them below 2k so that they don't pass useless edits ? braces for impact

Ælis

20:37

@EmC Cat pictures are always nice indeed :D

@ankii Well, probably not really, but if you took the time to find some bad post of them, it's fine by me. Just don't downvote good posts

Em C

@ankii ... er, not really, you probably should ping them and/or flag for mod attention so the mods can talk to them about it

Rainbacon

@ankii Yeah, that kind of sounds like targeted downvoting, which could get you in some trouble

Ælis

@ankii And, as EmC said, it's probably something that you should tell the mods about (like in: "hey, user X always makes useless edit. Can we do something about it?")

ankii

@EmC I don't think they read rejected edit comments. They are editing over 5 posts a day over an abbreviation.

@Ælis chatroom was notified, by someone else. One mod now left a note in edit review.

> twice

too ?

Ælis

@Rainbacon Actually, people doing some targeted downvote don't get into trouble. They even get their rep back when the serial downvotes are undone...

Mithical

20:41

Depends.

Em C

@ankii I meant by pinging them in a comment under a post they've edited. Though that's not ideal - I would still suggest flagging to mods, so they can message the person directly (and keep an eye out / suspend if necessary, if it's really disruptive)

Mithical

The script doesn't actually notify the mods that it found anything when it automatically reverses votes (serious design flaw IMO), so if that's how they were reversed the mod often don't even see it. If it was caught manually, then there often will be at the very least a reprimand.

ankii

takes notes ;p

jk, I'll comment under an approved, old edit.

Mithical

*eyeroll*

Ælis

@Mithical It's nice to know that sometimes something is being done. But do people suffer more than just a reprimand for serial serial downvote? (like if they were warned not to do that several time, but they keep doing it?)

@ankii Nice SE rep number! You should downvote two more times though, for it to be perfect :p

Mithical

20:45

Generally if people ignore warnings there start to be other consequences...

ankii

@Ælis 007 :)

Ælis

@Mithical I like the sound of that. The idea of people being able to be not nice (serial downvotes is not nice) with no consequences was bothering me

ankii

@dillon I hope you were reading rejected edits' review comments like apple.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/278441. Also see apple.stackexchange.com/posts/298745/revisions for some more scope for improvements. Soon you'd be able to review yourself, and I suggest a rule of thumb: the older the post (away from homepage), higher the barrier to edit it. — ankii 19 secs ago

should I drop a thanks or a salutation somewhere ?

Ælis

@ankii I'll say, add a "Hey there" at the beginning to look more friendly

Avoid the "thanks" though, it tends to look passive-agressive

ankii

:thumbsup:

I'll probably watch something from my watchlist and go to bed. good night!

Ælis

20:53

@ankii Good night then :)

Is there a way to get a list of the number of questions asked by each user on IPS meta? Because I'm very proud to have been the first to win the "inquisitive" badge on IPS meta, but I'm wondering who is "up" next and how far they are from me :p

Rainbacon

You could use SEDE

Ælis

I was worried I would get this answer. Never mind then, I'm too tired for that ^^

Rainbacon

Hold on a sec, I'm super un-busy at work so I'm writing you a query

scohe001

SELECT query FROM Rainbacon.Brain;

My query is running @Ælis...

Ælis

@Rainbacon Once again today, I'm sad for you (that you are un-busy at work, that's not really fun) but I'm happy for me :p

Rainbacon

21:00

data.stackexchange.com/interpersonalme/query/edit/1173906

Ælis

@scohe001 Weird, this didn't pinged me Oo

Rainbacon

Looks like Vylix is next

Though they aren't super active. The next active user on up for the badge is a tie between Scohe and Avazula

Ælis

@Rainbacon Nah, it would be apaul (unlikely since they aren't really active anymore) or Tink. Remember that it's the number of well received question who matter and Tink doesn't seem to have enough yet (or she would have had the badge already)

@Rainbacon In any case, thanks for the query! :D

Rainbacon

Oh yeah. What counts as well received?

Ælis

I would say, at least a not zero positive score, but other than that, I'm not sure :/

Rainbacon

21:05

I also forgot that it's about the number of days not the number of questions

Ælis

Ah, true that. But I don't think there are that many people who write several questions a day. I know I always take care to only write one and wait for the next day if I have another one to ask ^^

scohe001

Here's distinct days and "well received" (made from ~~shamelessly stealing~~ incorporating Rain's work): data.stackexchange.com/interpersonalme/query/1173911/…

So it looks like Tink is one away...

Rainbacon

Oooh, that's much nicer than what I was trying to do

Ælis

@scohe001 Yep, I won't be alone with my badge for long anymore :D I must say, I was surprised when I realized that I was the first with the badge. I mean, you people aren't curious/chatty enough :p

scohe001

Yea only DATETIME really cares about times. So if you cast down to DATE, you basically just have a day. Makes it easier to compare

Psh not on meta! :p

Ælis

21:11

@scohe001 You are indeed chattier in here :D

scohe001

Only when I should be doing work ;)

Rainbacon

Speaking of SEDE, is it possible to use any JSON functions?

Ælis

@scohe001 So, really often then, right? :p

Rainbacon

I think my query won't work anyway, but it would be nice to know for the future

scohe001

@Rainbacon yea, I did some for this answer if you wanted a quick dirty example

(Although that was just pulling a value out of a JSON string)

@Ælis hehe maaaaaybe :P

Rainbacon

21:13

I'm trying to get the length of an array

scohe001

Of a JSON string?

Ælis

@scohe001 Oh, I had no idea one could do that!

Rainbacon

There's a JSON string that contains an array, and I want to check the length of that array

Specifically, the PostHistory table has an array of who voted to close a question. I'm trying to check that the number of close voters is equal to 5

So as to find posts not hammered by a mod

I tried using OPENJSON but that doesn't appear to be supported

scohe001

@Rainbacon looks like this should do it: stackoverflow.com/q/43141892/2602718

I'll see if I can mockup an example if you can't get it working

Rainbacon

Hmm, I should be able to do something like JSON_VALUE(ph.Text, '$.Voters[4]') IS NOT NULL, but that's failing

It's pulling zero rows even if I use 0 as the index

scohe001

21:24

Here's the example if you're still looking: data.stackexchange.com/interpersonalme/query/1173915

@Rainbacon Hmm idk if you can do array notation like that. Pretty sure you need the CROSS APPLY to split it out into different result rows

Rainbacon

Well, I did manage to get it to work (using your cross apply example)

Thanks for the help!

scohe001

For sure!

Rainbacon

Unfortunately, I can't actually tell anything from this query because SEDE doesn't include deleted posts

Guess I'll have to wait for Shog to see my comment

Well that was a fun foray into SEDE

scohe001

Are you sure? I know they don't include deleted comments but I thought it does have deleted posts (otherwise what's the point of the "DeleteionDate" field?)

Rainbacon

SELECT * FROM Posts
WHERE DeletionDate IS NOT NULL

Returns 0 rows

I believe that the schema is the same as what is in the SO database, but not all rows are published into the SEDE dataset

scohe001

21:33

Huh yea you're right. Idk then

Em C

@Rainbacon I'm really curious about that too. a histogram might be interesting, or "single close vote from mod" vs. "at least one community vote" - like sometimes I wait for other people to vote, but might hit it after 2-3 instead of 4 others

Shog9

@Rainbacon try select * from PostsWithDeleted where DeletionDate is not null

scohe001

Any special reason we keep those tables completely separate?

Rainbacon

Hmm, checking PostsWithDeleted gives me the same number of community closed questsions as Posts, both of which are lower than your number of community deleted posts for 2019.

I must have my filters wrong

scohe001

21:54

Does PostHistory include deleted posts @shog?

Shog9

@Rainbacon that's because we screwed up and didn't include ClosedDate for deleted posts

@scohe001 generally no

off the top of my head, only PostLinks includes deleted posts

(and, of course, PostsWithDeleted)

The reason I post these stats is that they can't accurately be calculated from public data

scohe001

Ahh gotcha. That's too bad, but it makes sense.

Rainbacon

Thanks for popping in to answer our queries!

Shog9

It'd be nice if they could, but some stuff is just... really headachy to sanitize in a way that's still useful

(other stuff just generates a headachy amount of data)

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