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02:10
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02:50
I really, really, really hate parties. The next one who proposes one to me can always dream. The last time I want to a party, I thought "no more work parties" but I thought I was exaggerating and that it "couldn't be that bad". Well, it was that bad and I hate it
(Also, I'm having insomnia right now and it's not fun, but still better than this %$#& party)
03:02
:/ you can hop in the Codenames chatroom if you want to watch or join in a game?

 Codenames

For playing the game Codenames. New players, see puzzling.meta...
Nah, I'm gonna try several strategies in order to sleep. Interacting with people is probably not a good idea
03:20
Okay. Positive thoughts floating your way, I hope you overcome your insomnia soon and go to sleep and have a restful night
03:40
@Ælis I really, really, really hated parties too, at least until I went to some parties with people I really gelled with. Now I think parties are cool beans
 
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06:14
@Jesse crossed the barrier I see
I wish such positivity and courage comes before the dreadful task
06:48
@ankii My friends and I wish you all the courage and positivity in the world
07:15
Morning everyone!
07:30
@ElizB It wasn't that restful but, at least, it was almost full. I still want to scream at the person who thought that a Thursday night party was a good idea when you have to work on Friday
Remote work today o/
07:48
For me too but I don't appreciate it because I'm in a very unhappy mood
@Ælis oh no :(
@Jesse +1 on that :D
@Ælis :(
morning all
08:30
Fedora is purring on my lap while I'm coding. So relaxing :D
Pff, show off :p
:p
I would take a pic for you guys but she's literally on my forearms so ... that might be a little complicated haha
I managed to free an arm haha
Haha, this look x)
"What are you doing stupid human? Keep petting me and stop doing silly things" :p
Fedora's nice, she doesn't think I'm stupid (I hope so ... :o)
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doesn't that kinda come with the package of being a cat?
;)
08:36
"she's special!"
Maybe you are "smart for a human" in her brain then :p
Or "smartess of all the humans"
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"this isn't a particularly egregious case"
today is the dawn of the final day
The final countdownnnnn
08:52
i was more going for Majora's mask, but that works too!
<very serious voice>Today, we work. Tomorrow we...</very serious voice> do whatever we want! \o/
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@AlexRobinson By Toutatis, is the moon/heavens coming down?
@JAD yeah something like that
09:48
https://interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/23795/how-to-do-you-politely-tell-somebody-to-stop-interrupting-a-conversation

question needs more details and a little bit of focus
@AlexRobinson Do you know what details you think are missing? You might want to leave a comment to help the OP
@Ælis Jesse's comment pretty much covers it, it largely just needs a little deeper of an explanation as to what happened and if they've tried anything etc
10:29
new moon hat :D
@CaldeiraG I thought it was for actions on the 21st?
10:46
@avazula Maybe it's already the 21st somewhere?
@Ælis I looked it up, didn't look like it was :p
There goes my theory :'(
has anyone here heard of an artist called First to Eleven ?
I have zero musical culture, so no ^^ (I'm assuming this artist is a musician or something?)
yeah! i've just found them today and it turns out they've covered loads of bands i love to listen to and have a pretty nice sound
11:03
@AlexRobinson Sure! I listen to their covers too :)
This girl has an amazing voice
yes i'm kinda reminded of the girl from Stand Atlantic
Speaking of girls with amazing voices you might enjoy that one (cover) too
:o i'm checking it out now
You know, if you wanna talk cover bands we might get along very well :D
I just made a frame challenge to one of my own question ^^ (yes, I'm looking for a hat and yes, I would really like upvotes :p )
11:11
@avazula the intro was fantastic, voice amazing
@AlexRobinson Riiiiight? They are great musicians
@CaldeiraG I earned a sun, I'm a bit disappointed :(
@avazula i am still losing my mind over first to eleven ngl lmao
@avazula well i don't know then xD, it's still 10pm in australia
friday
should i post a meta post about it?
Auckland is already midnight
so that counts? :o
i'd assume so
11:49
i am gonna keep getting happy over First to Eleven... they've covered Linkin Park, bring me the Horizon, Blink-182... loads of my favourite bands
12:07
@AlexRobinson +1, what is First to Eleven tho?
13:02
@CaldeiraG yay, router friend!
@CaldeiraG it's a cover band :)
13:13
@avazula oh nice :)
I'm trying a (hat) experiment. May I have upvote on this answer please? (I need a total of 5). PS: it's a ips meta answer, so no undue rep for me ^^
Writing a resignation letter is hard
@Rainbacon Oh, I never done that before. Never thought one should write a personal letter for such a thing
@Ælis it's less common in France, you can do it over mail
but most of the time you still feel like you have to explain why you're leaving
13:28
It's weird because I have to send it to HR (who I don't have any relationship with) and my boss (who I do have a relationship with). I feel like it should be a bit personal for my boss, but then it feels weird to also send it to HR.
@avazula I thought you would 1) ask for a meeting, 2) tell the person you are resignating 3) the other person makes you sign an official resignation letter that they wroted for you
@Rainbacon Can't you add a personal letter with the one for your boss?
@Ælis nah, it's more like you send them an email saying you're leaving and whether you'd like to discuss whether it'd be possible to leave sooner than in three months
Also, what do you people think of my new hat? :p
Oh, I'm leaving sooner than 3 months
@Ælis It looks nice
So far I can't find any hats that fit me better than the duck
@Rainbacon 3 months the French legal duration (so you need to ask to leave sooner)
@Rainbacon I like it. It show the silliness in me :D
13:31
The US doesn't have a legal duration. It's polite to let them know 2 weeks in advance
@Rainbacon Yep, definitively not the same period of time x)
@Ælis It kind of reminds me of a hat that an elderly woman would wear to church
@Rainbacon Oo
I'm letting my company know a month in advance
Oh sorry, I was referring to my duck
I do think your hat displays a nice whimsicality
@Rainbacon Ah, that's explain it x)
13:33
Although, I would love to see someone wear your hat to church. That would be fun
@Rainbacon Also, I get the same impression from the duck hat, now that I think of it. Except the woman wouldn't just be old but "insane"
@Rainbacon do you go to church?
@Ælis I was thinking more of just the general shape of the duck hat. The waves make it look rather wide brimmed, like this hat
slightly late to the party, but i like it AElis!
@avazula I used to, but haven't gone regularly in a few years. My wife keeps saying that we should go to church, but we never actually go. I'm not opposed to going back if that's what she wants to do, but I'm not going to make an effort unless she starts saying "I want to go to church" rather than "I should go to church"
13:41
@AlexRobinson Thank you Alex. I hope yours is keeping you warm with love :D
yeah, I understand that it may be difficult for believers to find the time, energy, motivation and everything to regularly go to Church
@Ælis sure is! panthers tend to get cold in London with the relentless wind and rain lol
I think it's more of just that I don't want her to be in the mindset of "we go to church because we have to". I think that the church she grew up going to had a few adverse effects on her. It was very dogmatic and she's told me of a number of things that she did only because she felt like she had to if she was going to be a believer.
It's sad when religion does more harm than good. Sadly, it happens sometimes
She's moved on from a lot of that, and I don't want her to fall back into it.
13:58
@Jesse Aw Thanks! <3
Hot take, but: Capitalism is not just a religion but a cult and it is doing more harm than good
All right, time for me to try to catch a train. Don't forget people, go upvote this wonderful idea to offer me a new hat! :p
14:14
@Ælis bon courage with the strikes and everything! You got this <3
I already upvoted it long ago
just updooted now
Does anyone have thoughts about this question? The fact that it is focused on asking what the other person could have done better strikes me as odd
14:29
well OP is being called out as interrupting by person C, and asking what person C should've done differently... i feel like something is missing
I'm not sure why, but it makes the question feel disingenuous
It almost sounds like the OP is asking us to tell them that they are right and person C is wrong
@Rainbacon there was a quesiton on either personal finance or academia a while back that attracted a lot of HNQ attention and the question itself was on maybe 70+ and had a top answer disagreeing with OP on ~130... but OP picked an answer on -26 or something as correct because it was what they agreed with... i guess it's all some people are looking for
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I remember that one
note that the checkmark doesn't necessarily mean "correct", exactly for that reason
@AlexRobinson that's why SO, Inc changed the displaying order when the accepted answer has a lower score than the highest ranked, non-accepted answers
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@avazula does it? I think it only does that on self-answers
14:36
i mean, bandwaggonning is important - if i see a negative answer i'm way more likely to dismiss it
@JAD that's worth a MSE search I think
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@avazula this is an example where the accepted answer has a positive score, but lower than others, but is still sorted to the top: interpersonal.stackexchange.com/q/18650/2262
@JAD shameless plug ;)
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14:56
@AlexRobinson not intended, just an example I can easily find
but yeah, that other answer was totally amazing
and with a downvoted example: here the owner of the question was changed so that the initially self-answered accepted heavily downvoted answer would still be on top: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/338270/…
very interesting question overall
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I'm only linking it as example for the displaying order, not to bring that discussion in here :)
yeah, i'm kinda done discussing SO/SE's recent failures. i don't particularly care anymore because there's a nice community here on IPS :)
@AlexRobinson we're truly lucky around here
we sure are ^^
15:28
@JAD you're right, remember when JNat put a question on Meta.SE and self answered it? it was accepted but not sticked to the top so they basically went changing the author the answer to other CM in order to get on the top
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@CaldeiraG almost like that, but yeah I linked that
oh i didn't see that, my bad
shame on me
15:44
0
Q: Should I return small change borrowed from a classmate?

NageshI did not have enough change at the vending machine and my classmate offered me 1 euro, however I have returned 50 cents immediately after purchasing the item. Should I return the remaining 50 cents? I feel its her money and I should return it but at the same time I can't get my mind off about w...

@ExtrovertedMainMan Is that even a question? You can return it or not, I don't think the classmate would be bothered by 50 cents..
@CaldeiraG some people might, thats rather dismissive
@avazula It was not easy, but I'm finally in the train \o/ I can't believe I'm saying that but the hardest part is done! (Yes, it's harder to go from Paris to Paris, then to go from Paris to La Nièvre)
"Should I" questions are off-topic here though, you need to specify your goal. One possible scenario is "How do I approach my classmate to return her money?". — CaldeiraG 1 min ago
#23800 CaldeiraG (384 rep) | Q: Should I return small change borrowed from a classmate? (score: 0) | posted 18 minutes ago by Nagesh (101 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0
Matched regex(es) ["possible-aic"]
@chumpbot wrongo
15:55
@AlexRobinson I know there is no common sense here but if you ask for something, they expect you to return it
@CaldeiraG Yay, only one upvote missing! (Or three if no one comments then I will have the 007 hat)
@CaldeiraG ... which goes directly against your earlier comment of them not being bothered lol
@Ælis I'm also looking for the 007 over on SU :)
@AlexRobinson It's 50 cents tho, not a big expensive thing.
I don't think anyone will be bothered by 50 cents IMO, I probably borrowed more than 100€ without expecting something in return.
100€ in little amounts*
@CaldeiraG personally i'm of the opinion that it is completely w/e and they should cough up the 50c. however that isn't really the question imo
don't understand what w/e supposed to mean :(
@AlexRobinson OP just edited the question with my title and no changes on the body :\
@AlexRobinson either way, they are both acceptable
16:01
@CaldeiraG i think that makes the question an ok question. it might be phrasing tbh but i'm not sure
feel free to suggest anything else :)
@Rainbacon I don't know, it feels like a valid question to me. Also, I don't think the reason why someone is asking a question really matters
My first comment got yeeted already :) xD
@CaldeiraG that may have been my flag lol
yea, don't worry about it
it wasn't asking for clarification
16:12
@Ælis Perhaps I'm reading too much into it
@Rainbacon it did strike me as odd too. like, we say in the help center "we're not here to resolve disputes for you".. phrased the way is is, it kind of sounds like that's what OP is after. but I don't know that it's really close-worthy, it is focused on accomplishing a specific goal and all that
16:26
wrong image
thanks for the awful hat :p
@CaldeiraG hahah, the eyebrows really complete the look
16:50
XD
17:45
@EmC you indeed didn't have to deal with them last time (or whenever you got your glasses)
@CaldeiraG Cap's the best
@AlexRobinson wow! which country do you live in?
though I am more towards socialism plus capitalism, not the latter alone.
17:58
I sent my notice to HR and my boss
18:22
oof, I just got an upvote for an old question about a bad situation... yay for rep, bleh for being reminded of it >.<
@Rainbacon woo! that's always nervewracking to do.
Yep, very much so on the nervewracking front
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I'm glad, though, that you seem to be moving to something that will be better for you overall from what you've said
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@CaldeiraG the eyebrows are cracking me up
20:26
@ankii :)
@Ash hehe :P

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