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06:22
Morning everyone!
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Morning!
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06:58
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08:11
Ah, good thing this answer was here, I was about to write one! I have an aversion to calling strangers on the phone or via voice chat - and I consider it a real weakness - it makes my job harder than it could be, and makes me have to use precious "self-motivation" to perform rather simple tasks - leaving less left for the actual grind... But - the solution is of course to find ways for me to do this easier, not make the world account for my weaknesses! — Stian Yttervik 1 min ago
#6934 Stian Yttervik (1231 rep) | A: How to tell people that I don't like answering my phone? (score: 3) | posted 741 days ago by faustus (367 rep) | edited 741 days ago by faustus (367 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | Comment on inactive post | tps/fps: 0/0
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08:13
Oh yay! A normal color comment bot :P
@AJ I don't get the joke :'(
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I wasn't done yet
aaaaah! okay :)
(sorry :p)
carosatelier.nl/… < I just found that in a black Friday sale e-mail.. apparently there's a brand of crochet hooks where you pay over a 100 euro's for a single hook!
(I'll stick with the 'expensive' ones that are around 8 euros :P)
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08:19
lol
@Tinkeringbell rose gold crochets for wealthy crocheters! :p #fancyCrafts
@avazula If I can make people a small stuffed toy and then charge for the hook too, perhaps :P
08:35
Morning :) noon AJ :p
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Good afternoon
@ankii So I watched The End of the F***ing World and more recently Sex Education. They're both teen dramas but they're probably one of a kind, it's not the usual drama. They're both on Netflix if you're into it
They don't have much popularity , probably only between netflix users which I'm not one :p
If you have some recommendations to do too drop it in because I finished both for now
Rewatching Black Mirror which is well known now :)
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@CaldeiraG Which genres you like? Thriller, suspense, mystery, horror, science-fiction, superhero, fantasy etc?
08:55
@AJ All of them except horror and superheroes for now x)
09:05
@CaldeiraG do you know Black Orphan? It's Sci Fi and I really really enjoyed that show
@avazula Ah, looks cool :)
@CaldeiraG oh you threw here.. xd
I meant their chat room, Screening Room
you can search there "Movie of the day" and see what we've been seeing,
@ankii xd
Also, I watched "Parasite" yesterday, so Thriller, suspense, mystery, fantasy, comedy, drama, satire.. all in one.
I've seen both TEOTFW season1, and sex ed btw
@ankii cool
09:13
Jul 17 at 9:46, by ankiiiiiii
Has nobody seen sex ed on Netflix?
Oh well
I really i'm in a mood of watching TV shows recently, I can go months without seeing anything
So I catch up on stuff late x)
@CaldeiraG if you like teen drama you might like Riverdale
I've been told much good about the Politician too, but I haven't watched it yet
@avazula I know about that one :)
good morning all, is it just me thats super glad its friday?
@AlexRobinson I'm with you so no ;p
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Q: How to reply to "I shouldn't have to speak to you like that"?

hectorpepperFor more back story, see here. I was asked to a meeting with 2 people from a group of friends I hangout with. The subject was complex. I believe we all respect each other and value direct, open communication. However maybe we have personality traits that don't really go along. One person (call h...

@AlexRobinson I like Friday too :)
Also.. it's Black Friday... things are crazy over here, how about over there?
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@Tinkeringbell I bike through that road during my commute :D
09:32
Oh really, where is it? I thought it was Emmen, but IIRC you live near Amersfoort now?
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Soest
It's down in the comments
Morning
I'm checking black friday deals on the internet
I must admit I didn't check out the comment section ;)
I'm thinking of mediamarkt.nl/nl/product/… (24 inch IPS 75hz monitor)
I bought a wireless version of the headphones I currently have for my PC, because the wired version is really nice but wired :P
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09:34
I must admit that I only recognised it after my interest was piqued.
@Belle Definitely always a good idea to get an extra monitor to IPS on ;)
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Also, I was hoping that I could get a Switch a bit cheaper. So far the best offer I've seen was 299 instead of 319 :/
I'm in doubt whether I should buy a 75 hz monitor or a 144 hz one. When the hertz doubles, so does the price.
Well, that is a bit cheaper? :P
Nintendo on discount doesn't exist
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09:36
@Tinkeringbell it is. Not impressed though
@JAD Usually they drop in price after Sinterklaas/Christmas. Wait till January.
@Belle I wouldn't know what's better :)
My main problem is that I do two things on my computer that require a particular type of thing:
- Photo editing, which requires good colours, so I "need" an IPS (lol) monitor
- Gaming, which requires a fast monitor (1 ms latency and 144 hz)

I currently have a 1 ms latency, 75 hz, bad colours monitor.

Now an IPS monitor has good colours, but is slow. A gaming monitor is fast, but doesn't have good colours. I could get a IPS gaming monitor, but they cost a fortune.
Alternatively, I could replace my one screen with two new ones and get a good colours slow one and a bad colours fast one and move my current screen to the bedroom, so I don't even need to get out of bed to watch Netflix.
@Belle winning idea!
10:03
@Belle You got me there lol
10:18
@Tinkeringbell My fiancé's work has 15.000 orders in at the moment. It's only 11:00 am. Normally they do 4.000 orders on a Friday all day.
@Belle o.0 That's... crazy! I ordered my headphones yesterday, they should arrive today :D
But also understandable in a way, most of those would still be on time for Sinterklaas ;)
10:33
I ordered a gaming screen and speakers. Found one with a nice deal on. A sinterklaas gift/early christmas gift for myself :) I'll get a nice screen for photo-editing later.
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hmm, today has been kinda slow for us so far
and fridays are always a bit slumpy in the afternoon
My day so far consists of ordering stuff I tell myself I need, but I really don't.
@Belle Sounds like a nice way to spend the day (as opposite to your money) :p
I personally love buying stuff. It reminds me that I have money :D (to be honest, I mostly never buy anything except ebook and food, but still ^^)
@Ælis Weirdly, I really don't like buying things. I hate shops, and I can just about cope with online shopping.
But I like having cool things
so that's a slight conflict
@RoryAlsop Oh, I hate shops and shopping too. The only except is online stuff and shopping in quiet place (like the Christmas market, early in the morning, when everything is still quiet)
Honestly, shopping for clothes is my worst nightmare. Except for t-shirt becauce I have found the perfect online place to buy them ^^
10:46
I like shopping at Christmas markets when I'm tipsy. If I'm sober, I get overwhelmed fast, but if I've drunk like one glass of gluhwein, I start loving all the lights and the music and forget about all the people.
Yarn shops are good too :)
There's never many people at those :P
@Belle I do love the lights and the music too. But I just need to be far away enough from the music so that it's not overwhelming (I still hate it when there are too many people though)
@Tinkeringbell Really, I wouldn't have expect that :p
11:05
@Belle oh, for me Christmas is my least favourite time of year to go anywhere - there are way more people in shopping centres, Christmas music is everywhere ... gakkk
@RoryAlsop True that, but (almost) empty Christmas Market are the best (so many interesting things to buy at the same place *-* )
@Ælis ah - it's all got very commercial in Edinburgh. Huge 'German Market' that sells mostly tat, at vastly inflated prices
@scohe001 I think the bot has become a bit arrogant :p chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/52734874#52734874
@RoryAlsop "tat"?
@Ælis junk :-)
Oh right
@RoryAlsop I live in Paris now, "vastly inflated prices" is my day to day life :p
11:10
@Ælis yes, I remember Paris prices well
Oof. I like Paris, but for a daytrip or so. So expensive and so many people.
@RoryAlsop Oh, did you live there? Or did you just do some tourism?
I visit a fair bit. I nearly moved to Versailles for a job
@Belle You get us to the "expensiveness". But the many people, not so much
I previously lived in the centre of a small city of about 50.000 inhabitants. That was too crowded for me. Having a beach-side apartment was amazing, but all the tourists and the drunks at night, not so much.
11:14
Drunks at night are the worst. But I never go out at night, so I don't get to see them ^^
I now live just on the edge of a small town with 10.000 inhabitants, next to a small lake and a "forest" and lots of fields. I get all kinds of birds in my garden now, not just gulls stealing food.
@Belle *-*
I grew up in a tiny island community of about 17000 folks, and then spent some years in an even smaller island community of about 1500. All cities are too big for me. Edinburgh is half a million, but grows to over double that during the Festival (which attracts 4 million people over the whole month of August)
@Ælis They'd be under my window. With their noisy scooters and shouting :(. So glad I moved.
I live on the edge of a small town with 1,500,000 people
11:16
@Belle I would love to live in the middle of nature. Unfortunately, that's not really convenient, so I'm sticking to Paris for now
The dot thousand separator is just weeeeird.
Yeah, I should really use commas here
@Belle My apartment is "well situated" for that. I don't get noisy people and scooters. Just noisy train, but they stop when it's the middle of the night, plus they aren't so disturbing
@Belle Meh, I'm used to it, Europeans on Chem
But it's still weird.
10.100 for me would be 10 people and a . . . nevermind.
There was one thing I was never able to get used to. Mist horns. They. Are. LOUD. Just having a nice sleep and suddenly at 4 am: TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT.
11:21
War of the worlds
I'm suddenly in horror mode
"Why do lambs snore before waking up?"
There is a rail line just past the foot of my garden, but it's a local branch line and trains stop by 11pm so it doesn't disturb
War of the worlds is nothing compared to the spooky sound of mist horns carrying through the night.
That's just War of the worlds 3D
@Belle I'm glad I don't get that then x) My trains do have horns, but they aren't so loud
@Ælis And they probably don't need to signal their position to other trains by using their horns x)
Oh! It's almost winter, time for bird migrations :)
I heard the flock of flamingo that makes a nearby lake their winter home has arrived again
12:03
black friday is great for me, cheap stuff on amazon without having to leave the comfort of my flat
12:34
I'm almost tempted to spend the rest of today just browsing webshops...
(your black friday talks made me think about my taxes because I thought I had no money to spend on it haha) oh dear cash tax services are driving me crazy
@Ælis did they stopped taking money from your salary too? I haven't paid tax since September despite my attempts of reevaluating my rate :/
I pay no tax, why am I unhappy? Really there's something wrong with me haha
(more money for christmas gifts?)
12:53
Don't you have to make up for those later?
@Tinkeringbell we started paying monthly on January 1st
so it's still quite a mess I guess
I just called them, I spent 5 minutes with redirecting questions and when I finally got to talk to a human I got hung up on o_o
Oh lovely...
Isn't it? :p
Guess it'll get better next year when they're used to the new system
@avazula I would hate having to keep check of my taxes/finances like that, making sure I have money that can still be claimed by taxes lying somewhere around...
13:10
@Tinkeringbell I hate it too. I was homeless until I was almost 4 so money was always a bit stressful for me. Plus I'm worried they'll reclaim interests because I didn't pay (but I couldn't! Aah!)
@avazula Yeah, that sounds stressful... I keep trying to get things like insurance and stuff to be taken out of my account the day after I get my pay, but for some reason they keep moving it back to several days later... which is annoying because I keep having to think 'oh, yeah, can't put this in savings, because there's stuff that still needs paying' :/
I've had trouble with that twice now, where I just put stuff in savings and then they called 'we can't get the money, your bank says there's not enough in your account..'
@Tinkeringbell oh... that sounds awful :(
@avazula It's okay, it's just a matter of getting a small bit out of savings again, and having them get that (It's not like there's nothing in the savings account or I'm short of money... just really bad at keeping track of transactions :P)
Basically, I get my pay each month... and a day or two/three later I automatically assume that whatever is left in my account is what's left, because hey, I asked the insurance company to automatically take the mony a day after I get it, right?

So I get some cash, and all that's left goes to a savings account :P
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@Tinkeringbell yep, luckily that'll all change when the mortgage starts. All the tax returns :D
@JAD And it'll all end again when the mortgage ends... then you'll have to pay extra taxes again.
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13:16
that'll be a while mind you
I wasn't planning on taking 30 years to get rid of the mortgage... I set the loan for 20 years, and if it's going to increase again, I'm going to make sure I pay it off before those 20 years are up!
...interest rate... was the word I was looking for there.
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hmm, I set it for 10 years, didn't find the higher rate for 20 years to be worth it
@avazula They never took money from my salary (I, too, tried to make them reevaluate my rate). It's bugging me a lot because I don't know how much I will have to pay for the taxes ><
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sadly, after closing the rates dropped almost 0.5% :/
13:20
@Ælis oh dear, that's even worse! I'm so so sorry :(
I suspect I might be able to pay for most of my flat in cash ._.
(subsidies + mom nagging me to save for an apartment most of my working life)
@JourneymanGeek oh wow ._.
@avazula the apartment I'm looking at is ~120k
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> Teacher : Who's your favourite Actor?
Me: Arnold Schwarzenegger
Teacher: Spell it?!
Me: only joking its Jet Li
I'm looking at about 30k from my retirement fund + 30k cash + 30k in subsidies
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13:22
@jou Is that true that the second official language of Singapore is Tamil?
My dad's offered me a loan, but its just so much cheaper than what I'd pay in the open market or getting what I could afford (rather than what they will sell me...)
@AJ we have 4 official languages
@JourneymanGeek darn, okay, that's a reasonable price I guess, yes. I suspect it'll cost me ~250k... and I shall hurry, prices grew 10% bigger in the last three years
@avazula Well, I have a lot of saving, so it's not that bad, it's just annoying ><
@avazula so, the housing market here's mostly government run and regulated
I'm buying in a new neighbourhood, and new build
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@avazula hmm, just 10%? We had that in a year in some places
13:24
the tradeoff is needing to wait till 2022 to move in, and since I'm single I can't buy a 3 room unit
@JAD darn. But yeah, I mean I can't put half my wage in my mortgage payments.
@JourneymanGeek oh wow :/
2 room is enough for me? Even if I get married, it won't be an issue unless I have kids.
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case and point: I bought a house in may. This fall another house in the same street went for sale: €50k higher asking price. It's been sold.
@Journey that's true
Its a nice neighbourhood, I don't need much furniture - I suspect I can get the basics in a month or two of salary...
I mean, I need a desk, a bed, a TV and a chair ;p
and Move over my computer gear to the new place
13:28
:)
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@JourneymanGeek But, is the second one Tamil?
@AJ they're all 'equal"
I'd argue chinese is the second ;p
and tamil is kinda the least used
@JourneymanGeek what's your primary language? (if you don't mind me asking :))
ooh
Effectively bilingual
English/... ?
13:30
I speak tamil at home, english at work, and think in both and slightly abstract or image based thought
okay :)
I hope I can speak English to my kids at home when I become a parent
I think it's beneficial for a child to be exposed to multiple languages at a young age
while my parents are bilingual - they insisted on speaking tamil at home
I learnt a lot of my english from cartoons
If Tamil is indeed one of the least used languages in Singapore it makes sense to me
plus cartoons are fun :D
13:35
well there's a bit more cultural context there
@avazula My mother kind of did that with my little sister. It worked nicely even if my mother as a very bad English accent. So, be ready for your children to make fun of your accent too (as we do with my mother) :p
My dad grew up in sri lanka where tamil was a minority language
in india, there's an ongoing thing where they're trying to push hindi as the "lingua franca"
which many southerners, not just tamils dislike
so its a matter of ensuring our linguistic heritage is preserved. Oddly, my tamil is 'better' than folks in india at times ;p
haha :)
The apartment I moved out of has been put for sale. They offered it to use for €20000 in summer, but now it's for sale for €239000
13:51
Same here... the apartment I'm buying now has to be newly built. When we first saw it, they were selling them for 165k, when they decided to build extras, the extra apartments went for 189.
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@Belle missing a 0 in the first number I guess?
14:10
so much mod talk!
@JourneymanGeek is it ongoing ? I thought it was past us..
@ankii its ongoing
The 'national' parties are heavily northern anyway
since in the south its mostly regional parties
then better to have a common language in south, maybe English, the way Hindi is in north
but meh, easier said than done.
well - I don't think the malayalees would be happy with tamil, even if they're almost mutually intelligble...
telungu is proud enough they split into two states
there's also kannada...
the big advantage of hindi is like english, its a bit of a mutt language, and folks like Nehru and Ghandi spoke it
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Q: I get very annoyed if someone ignores my question in text communication. How to deal with them

PoorCommuterFor this question, I am talking about informal texting conversation with friends, acquaintance only. Suppose I am talking to someone and they ignored my question (either intentionally or not), I feel very annoyed and insulted. Like they don't respect me enough. Here is what I do: A) I will sto...

yes, that's why I thought English would be a better choice than any one from the one you said + Oriya
14:15
English is however an alien language to many
an acceptance that diversity is fine, and having english as the "meh, if nothing else works" language is actually ok for me
parties came up to openly defend their "Hindutva" ideology in Maharashtra, so I am not very optimistic about acceptance of diversity
@ExtrovertedMainMan This tagging is very wrong but I have no time to fix it ><
that's an interesting thing thuough - my parents are pretty hindu fundamentalist, but not in the nothern nationalist way.
I personally feel a lot of indian politics dosen't respect hindu traditions (like the whole mess in guruvaayur)
but there's linguistic and religious and cultural diversity
y'all ok with talk of politics, religious politics and such?
14:23
@EmC isn't ;p
oh well she isn't here
clever!
@JourneymanGeek It mostly depends ^^
@JourneymanGeek As long as everyone plays nice, should be okay :)
our flat used to have a hard no politics rule... then it became a soft rule because we'd like to discuss it from time to time... now there is no rule
I think they picked their most provocative elements and only care about them.. cows, Ram Temple and alike
then use it as a thread to tie the country and double down on resistance
well, the ram temple thing is messy too
14:27
glad it sorted out.. but sad that the court had to sort it out
@AlexRobinson I wish we'd discuss politics at home. Would a refreshing change from the village gossip.
what southern India gets is just coalition :(
the thing was that the mosque there was apparently disused. And well - there's a lot of attempts at cultural genocide by invading countries.
that verdict day, I didnt trust the news sources and went straight to wikipedia to get the conclusion
@Tinkeringbell sometimes it becomes too much tbh...
14:32
some people are not happy with the 5 acres and are filing a review... one more vocal minority.
@AlexRobinson Yeah, probably right... still, a bit more intellectual discussion instead of gossip would be a nice change :) I do hope that's one of the things that I can change once I'm living on my own more, surround myself with people that can have these talks.
@Tinkeringbell its all fun and games until the physics students get really existential whilst i just want to go to bed lol
Ugh, physics :P
@ankii I guess the question is - what value does the land have to them?
@AlexRobinson I enjoy philosophical and gender issues talks, are there any such students around ?
@JourneymanGeek I'd value peace more, and the appraisal of the order in the country shows that they agree with it. I can pick my faith up from where it was and put it somewhere else.
14:36
gender talks are a yikes because i'm suspiciously knowledgable and know that atleast one of my flat mates would not be at all understanding
@ankii well - the original ruling was to split up the land.
The previous status quo was divisive
and the new plot of land is bigger if they actually wanted to build a functioning place of worship
we saw indo-pak division lol.
not very effective, was it ?
true - but unlike pakistan, india's multireligious
well - the brits have a pattern of badly planned borders
atleast we got lots of nice stuff for the British museum /s
lol
I was also thinking the middle east
14:40
Even if Gogoi had rushed it to get it done in his tenure, the rest of the judges will uphold the previous decision, I predict
Most wholesome video i've seen in a while, and there is a ton to it other than the song.
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@JourneymanGeek africa, nuff said
@JAD oh, that's a more diversively blamable mess
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true that
14:58
@AlexRobinson Want to talk about a certain set of marble statues? :P
Hi Tinkeringbel!
... those were literally an introductory case study at nearly every course of heritage management I had...
chinese zodiac heads...
god knows how many temples that the brits and french blew up in india...
or threatened to
16:04
Are you sure your neighbour is aware of the policy ? At my parents (in Germany) it's the volume that counts, i.e. you pay for a bin of a certain size and it cannot overflow. There it is customary among neighbours that once you have put your bin out for collection anyone is free to use up the remaining space should there be any. — Marianne013 1 min ago
#23491 Marianne013 (137 rep) | Q: How to gently ask my neighbor not to use my bins for their waste? (score: 8) | posted 10 days ago by N.R. (81 rep) | edited 9 days ago by N.R. (81 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0
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on an unrelated note: my travel provider for my daily commute is having 27 days of strikes in december.....
16:49
so your answer to something you admit was either accident or intention is to intentionally ignore them? Sounds like an excellent way to never resolve anything — BKlassen 2 mins ago
#23623 BKlassen (1738 rep) | Q: How to deal with people who annoy me by ignoring my question in text communication? (score: 0) | posted 2 hours ago by PoorCommuter (1 rep) | edited 2 hours ago by ankii (899 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0
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@ankii heeey :p nah, mostly what Tink said. for me this was educational, catching up on transcript ;)
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aw the OP who asked about how to help their kid come out just added an update, sounds like it went pretty well :D
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