The Awkward Silence

Em C

03:18

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looks like comment bot was busy today ;)

dhein

05:36

A wonderfull friday morning to all of you :)

I am finally being better again :)

Introverted Meta Man.

06:46

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Q: Can we ask questions that are based in a standardized environment?

Preface: I work at a hospital and am considering asking a question related to the environment. I understand the standards within very well, but I’d like to see the consensus on acceptable scope. Background In certain environments there comes a set of rules and standards to guide people into ...

avazula

08:00

@dhein yay ♥ I'm glad you're feeling well :)

dhein

08:22

Thanks :)

Mithrandir

08:57

*nudge nudge* flags people? ;)

avazula

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dhein

An wonderfull example I have for this one was, we had here recently a machinelearning algorythm that was supposed to identify diferent kinds of cars. The algorythm ended up with totally missunderstanding what an SUV is. That was, because almost all pictures of SUV's had a clear blue sky in the background, so while it worked for all other kinds of cars correct, the machine wasn't able to identify SUV's if you gave it an SUV it concluded other kinds,
and if you gave it any picture asking if this was an SUV, it confirmed if the sky was clear and blue and declined if it wasn't x'D

Ælis

09:23

@dhein I saw your comment to Anilla post, do you like sitting on the floor too? I'm starting to wonder if this is an autistic thing :p

dhein

09:58

Yeah. I was about to write an answer, but got interupted I will finish the answer when I have time again, and then we could elaborate on that here if you stil want :p

I don't think it is an autistic thing perse. But now you say it, it might be related at least.

Ælis

@dhein Maybe it's linked by the fact that autistic people don't care about social norm and "do not sit on the floor" is a social norm, at least in European countries

dhein

10:37

@Ælis Interesting idea. Sounds reasonable. I just was considering what might be the reason for it, too. And I came up with 1~2 different ideas. I am gonna share with you after lunch. But for now I am at lunch :)

p.s.: I finsihed my answer ;)

@Ælis Gimme some thought food for my lunchbreak please: Do you actually think, if there wasn't that social norm, most people would rather enjoy sitting on the floor?

Ælis

@dhein I don't know. Japanese people do tend to sit on "the floor" a lot so I guess it could be fifty-fifty

And have a good lunch!

Also, one thing I notice about sitting on the floor is that it allows me to hide a little which I like very much (being hidden makes me feel safe). And I think that this is something other autistic people might share

avazula

11:16

@Ælis @dhein I love lying or sitting on the floor

Guys, I just received my noise-cancelling headset!

I can't wait for it to be fully charged so I can test it <3

Ælis

@avazula Nice! \o/

avazula

:happy dance:

Ælis

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Pseudohuman

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Ælis

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avazula

11:18

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Darn, the chat thinks I'm spamming it haha

Ælis

:P

This chat clearly knows nothing about dance! :p

avazula

Yup

We should create an acceptance filter for it to be comfortable with our excessive joy

Ælis

Hehe, +1 for that :p

avazula

feature-request

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: My girlfriend keep me out of her Facebook - how to act?

We are together since 6 month. I know her family and she knows mine. After about one month that we were dating she showed me some foto on Facebook. After a while I thought I could add her on fb, and I did it. After a few days I told her and she said "Ah yes I saw that you found me on fb!"...I fel...

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dhein

12:05

@Ælis Thanks, I totally had :)

@Ælis HUH!!! funny. 100% What I wanted to tell you after lunch. I was so curious how you see it, cause I couldn't really explain it. And now you just used the very same words I had used.

It feels like if an unwanted event might occur, "duck and cover" was a viable option when sitting on the ground, correct? ;P

@avazula @Ælis you 2 prefer hard or soft mattress? ^^ Cause the best mattress I ever had was a plain plank covered with some off worn isolation and cloth over it.... I loved it till my step sister thought she is still slim enough to jump on my "bed" and the plank broke QQ never had found anything comparable since then

Ælis

12:22

@dhein Yeah, exactely :D

@dhein I'm not sure, that's not something I really notice (I tend to fell asleep really easily so, unless the mattress isn't even everywhere, I won't complain about it)

dhein

12:39

I was thinking a bit at lunch about why I feel so. And I think the prefference sin't specifically autistic, this is a side effect making it even more viable for us. My theory why I (we?) do this is: when there is a group sitting we are part of, and you sit on a lower elevation than they do, you aren't taken serious, its kind of an degrading thing. And I can confirm from experience, in such a setting I get treat differently when sitting on the floor.
So having this "protection" of not being treat as someone on their level. gives us more leeway for failing in body language, cause while sittin…

you kinda agree? :)

Ælis

13:11

@dhein It could be. When sitting on the floor, you are kind of "outside the circle" so you don't have to participate as much as if you were sitting like anyone else (so less social interaction = less tiredness)

avazula

14:31

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Ælis

I posted under someone answer, they answered me but I don't understand their comment. Are they agreeing with me or not? Did they missunderstood me and should I correct them?

ElizB

Good morning :)

Ælis

Afternoon!

scohe001

@Ælis sounds like they're just upset. They're not agreeing or disagreeing. I'd back off, trying to correct them would probably only make it worse

Ælis

@scohe001 Alright, thanks :)

ElizB

14:38

@scohe001 I agree

The user is possibly being sarcastic

Ælis

@ElizB Oh, that would explain it, thanks ^^

ElizB

the first thing that I noticed was possibly sarcastic was "Oh this is great :)"

Ælis

Yeah but the "Sorry" at the end of the second message was really confusing

ElizB

Yeah, it's like "Sorry my answer doesn't meet all your standards"

scohe001

@Ælis I read that as a snarky "sorry this isn't good enough for you"

I left a comment though, so we'll see

motosubatsu

14:42

It doesn't read as sarcastic - more like the user is running into a language barrier

ElizB

haha me and scohe agree on that

@motosubatsu That's very possible too.

motosubatsu

they are russian and I've seen similar "odd" phrasing from them elsewhere on the network

ElizB

I said "possibly" sarcasm not 100% definite

scohe001

@motosubatsu eh my motto is assume best intentions but prepare for the worst

motosubatsu

@scohe001 while I don't disagree in general - both Occam's and Hanlon's Razors would appear to apply in this case

scohe001

14:47

Heh fair enough

Like I said, I left a comment in good faith, and we'll see how they react

Ælis

@motosubatsu I had never heard of Hanlon's Razors but, after googling it, I like it x)

scohe001

"@shoe001: I am not sure I understand, your..." yikes. Guess I'm a shoe now. Time to say goodbye to my yellow square dreams.

Ælis

@scohe001 Ahah x)

avazula

15:07

@scohe001 Be careful not to overstep your boundaries :p

ElizB

hehee

TheTinyMan

rubs eyes I just walked in and now people are shoes? There are worse things to aspire to I think.

Ælis

@TheTinyMan Do you like to be stepped on all day (and all days)? Because that's the terrible life that await @shoe001 now (RIP @scohe001)

TheTinyMan

@Ælis ... no comment?

avazula

Now to bright side of this is that they're shoe #001

Rainbacon

15:16

The oldest and most revered of the shoes

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ElizB

I like that perspective better haha

Ælis

Ahah XD

El'endia Starman

Shoe #007. License to squish.

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TheTinyMan

So what kind of shoe are you? Like, a boot? A sneaker? A sandal?

Ælis

This is going way too far, I love it! XD

Rainbacon

15:21

@TheTinyMan I would think the first shoe is probably a sandal

TheTinyMan

@Rainbacon I don't actually know much about the history of shoes but that sounds reasonable. So we're talking, like, super primitive? I think we need to upgrade @scohe001.

Ælis

@Rainbacon It could be a boot. A boot is use against cold. A sandal seems less useful IMO

avazula

@Ælis Say that again when it's summer! :p

Rainbacon

I'm just guessing. Since humans first popped up in Africa. Sandals seem like the right kind of shoe for Africa.

Ælis

@avazula I love going barefoot when it's summer :D (except when the sand is burning)

TheTinyMan

15:27

@Rainbacon I was thinking that, too. Sandals are good against stepping on pointy rocks or arrowheads or thorns. Or hot surfaces. Of course, if we're worried about thorns, we might want to protect the rest of the foot, too...

@Ælis I wish I lived somewhere with sand! Well, if it's beach sand. Maybe not if it's desert sand.

El'endia Starman

I'd say moccasins were the first shoe.

ElizB

depends on where you're talking about. boots, sandals and moccasins all sound plausible

El'endia Starman

Well. Maybe. I wonder if there's some archeology expert here that could tell us...

Ælis

@Rainbacon I was going to say that, maybe they didn't need it there. But people that currently living there do have shoes, so...

Rainbacon

According to wikipedia "The earliest known shoes are sagebrush bark sandals dating from approximately 7000 or 8000 BC, found in the Fort Rock Cave in the US state of Oregon in 1938."

Here's the source of that data pages.uoregon.edu/connolly/FRsandals.htm

Ælis

15:34

@Rainbacon Yeah, but that the "earliest known", we cannot draw conclusion from that :/

@TheTinyMan I hate the idea of living in a sand desert, not enough green. But yeah, I was talking about beach sand (I go to the beach when on holiday. I also go to the mountain and I'm sometimes barefoot there too ^^)

TheTinyMan

Ahhh, nice! :-) I'm either barefoot or in sandals whenever I can be. The other day I was salting my driveway to protect against ice while barefoot. :-P

I...might have regretted that decision.

ElizB

brr. :P

Ælis

@TheTinyMan Outch, I definitively don't do that in the cold winter! Oo (or just for a few seconds before running into hot water like Norwegian people do)

TheTinyMan

@Ælis I make poor decisions, especially when the wiser decision involves wearing shoes. :-P Or long pants.

Tinkeringbell

15:53

Areni-1 shoe

The Areni-1 shoe is a 5,500-year-old leather shoe that was found in 2008 in excellent condition in the Areni-1 cave located in the Vayots Dzor province of Armenia. It is a one-piece leather-hide shoe, the oldest piece of leather footwear in the world known to contemporary researchers. The discovery was made by an international team led by Boris Gasparyan, an archaeologist from the Institute of Archaeology and Ethnography of the National Academy of Sciences of Armenia (co-directors of the project are Ron Pinhasi from University College Cork in Ireland, and Gregory Areshian from UCLA). == ...

El'endia Starman

@Tinkeringbell Neat!

TheTinyMan

@Tinkeringbell Totally not a dinosaur. ;-)

Tinkeringbell

@TheTinyMan The leather had to come from something!

(and it's armenia, not america :P)

TheTinyMan

@Tinkeringbell That's true, that's probably basically a dinosaur! xD So if I bury a leather shoe, that's enough to get you to come excavate?

Tinkeringbell

No, nowadays leather is fake, no longer made from real dinosaurs ;)

TheTinyMan

16:05

@Tinkeringbell Back to the drawing board...

scohe001

16:20

Hahahaha I step away for a meeting for 2 seconds and this is what I come back to

You guys are awesome

I almost want to change my name to shoe007 just for this

avazula

@scohe001 why 7?

scohe001

1 hour ago, by El'endia Starman

Shoe #007. License to squish.

avazula

@scohe001 Ha, I missed that one

El'endia Starman

:D

ElizB

hehehe I like those. James Bond movies are a small interest of mine. Pierce Bronsan probably one of my favorites

oh sean connery as well

I am making very little progress in my internship work. blehhh

maybe I'll go over to the cafeteria and get some tea

yeah, that'll help. Oh, I think i know why my fatigue is hitting me- it's the woman's time of the month again and it's friday :P

avazula

16:35

I think I may have just written my best commit message ever:

> Removed tests (don't work, don't know why)

#CICDEngineer

scohe001

Did you try testing the tests, testily?

avazula

@scohe001 haha. I'm actually not the author. I'm just here to provide them (the authors) tools so that their tests run automatically, in a fancy way, with reports alarms and nice stuff like that

So my motto kinda is

"Don't work, don't mind"

Rainbacon

@avazula I wish my last client did that. I had a conversation with one of the qa engineers one day and he told me that they have a test suite of about 2000 tests. And 40% of them consistently fail

avazula

@Rainbacon :(

bummer

El'endia Starman

My company has a strict "no failure" policy. We don't merge branches if any of our ~150(?) tests fail.

scohe001

16:39

@avazula ooh that sounds like fun!

Rainbacon

The problem is, they don't know which ones fail because of the environment vs because the code is broken. Their method of generating reports is to compare the two previous test runs and only show the tests that changed whether they passed or failed

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: Asking my friend out even though I have a girlfriend

I am a 20 years old male from Canada. I have been with my girlfriend (also 20 years old) for about three months. When we started being in a relationship, we agreed that it was an exclusive one because I value her being faithful, but she insisted that she would not mind me sleeping with other gir...

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Rainbacon

@ExtrovertedMainMan Good thing we aren't on HNQ...

scohe001

Damn from the title I expected it to be downvoted to hell, but it's actually a kind of interesting question

That's a +1 from me

Rainbacon

Yeah, that's an extremely delicate situation

ElizB

17:10

it's definitely a huge damper on the day when one burns a thumb while getting chicken noodle soup from the cafeteria... :'( ouchhhh

TheTinyMan

@ElizB Oh no! D: How bad is the burn? Speaking of delicate situations!

ElizB

@TheTinyMan i basically dripped a bit of hot soup on my left thumb

it's not horrible but it's definitely stinging and throbbing... :/

the kitchen staff gave me burn cream so it's helping. still, the specific area of the burn is really hurting. not quite a second degree but probably close to it

El'endia Starman

oof

ElizB

it's below the cuticles on the skin, between the knuckle and fingernail

El'endia Starman

big oof :/

ElizB

17:15

what i hated about it was that i wanted to scream but didnt want to embarass myself so i laughed it off and made it no big deal

@El'endiaStarman yup, youll see it when i get home. probably should put lavender oil on it too to help reduce swelling

i'm waiting to see if it'll blister or not. i hope not.

ookay the burn cream is really helping, yay. only intermittent periods of stinging

TheTinyMan

@ElizB I'm glad that the cream is helping at least. :-\

ElizB

@TheTinyMan yeah, it's mostly that i need to ignore it until it stops... kinda hard to do

TheTinyMan

17:40

@ElizB I'll bet us talking about it is making that even harder! shifty eyes

@ExtrovertedMainMan Yay for polyamory questions ^.^

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: How can I ensure I maintain a good working relationship competing with my colleagues for a promotion?

I've worked at my current job for just about 2 years. Due to the type of job it is, the turnover rate is high, so I am one of the most experienced employees there. We're likely to have one or two positions opening up for a duty manager role in the next few weeks, which I'm planning to apply for....

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Q: Is it appropriate to remove a privelege from my younger brother for bad behavior?

I own a game that my younger brother who is 10 enjoys playing. Because he enjoys complaining about things I've been allowing him to use some functions on his own time to play it. But this morning he decided to yell at me when I gave him some helpful advice and after he left for the bus I removed ...

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Rainbacon

@TheTinyMan that's a good answer. I'm currently working on a frame challenge based mostly on personal experience related to your second point

TheTinyMan

@Rainbacon Yeah. It's...quite the sticking point.

Thank you for saying that it's a good answer, by the way. :-)

Rainbacon

I really like your 4th point

TheTinyMan

@Rainbacon Thank you. Yeah...that can be tough to navigate if things are less than ideal, but of course he doesn't even have a chance to navigate it if he doesn't identify it. But it's been my experience that that is most likely when the other person is speaking through a depressive state. :-\

ElizB

18:10

@TheTinyMan yeah. right now, keeping it still is helping

TheTinyMan

@ElizB I'm eating potato soup right now as it happens. :-) Oof...I effed this soup up, though.

My NP tells me, "I'm busy right now, can you go up and add spices to the soup I've had cooking for a while? Follow my directions literally and to the letter!" So I said, "Okay, how much, of what, do you want me to add?" So she says "all of the vegetables I brought up there," then names a bunch of spices and says, "And put not-half-a-cup of each in there! >.<" because I usually overspice a little.

But...since she said that right after "take my directions literally," I took that to mean "put in 3/8ths cup of each of these spices." And cut up all of the veggies she had on the counter, and…

ElizB

@TheTinyMan ooops. heh

Rainbacon

Ok, answer posted. That took longer to write than I expected it to

ElizB

18:29

Looks great! :)

Rainbacon

Thanks!

I think I want to add a bit more in the bottom section, but I need to think about it for a bit

ElizB

Alright, cool

Ælis

If someone could close that and left helpful comment before a 3rd answer, it would be great: interpersonal.stackexchange.com/q/20923/21067

TheTinyMan

I think that's a good frame challenge. Also, I'm sorry that you had to go through that, @Rainbacon.

Rainbacon

Thank you. I made my choices, and unfortunately I hurt a few people. I'm not proud of it, but I wouldn't be where I am today if I hadn't made those mistakes

TheTinyMan

18:40

@Rainbacon That's definitely true. Hopefully the mistakes that you made will enable you to avoid hurting more people, or being hurt yourself, in the future.

...I take too many risks, myself. xD Although I'm more cavalier with my own emotional well-being than other people's.

Rainbacon

I'm pretty guarded with my emotional well-being. The first time I had a bad break-up, I stuck to casual relationships for a couple of years before I opened up my emotions again.

TheTinyMan

I've never managed to stick to (only) casual relationships for more than, like, a few weeks at a time, tops. I probably should have though. :-P

Rainbacon

The longest I did lasted for a few months, but we didn't see each other frequently

TheTinyMan

Well what I mean is I've never been not in a deep romantic relationship and also not been seeking one, for more than a few weeks at a time. Since I was...like twelve? :-P I'm about to turn 34.

Rainbacon

ah

ElizB

18:59

@IPSCommentBot tp

IPS Comment Bot

Marked this comment as caught correctly (tp). Currently marked 1tps/0fps

Rainbacon

@IPSCommentBot Who told you to do that?

Everyone, the bot has gained sentience

ElizB

@Rainbacon uh, i did

Rainbacon

Did you delete the message or is it an older one and the bot took a long time to respone?

ElizB

@Rainbacon no, look at the message before that one

El'endia Starman

19:03

Now I'm getting ideas on how to mess with people...

Rainbacon

Oh, weird. Your feedback to the bot didn't show up until I manually refreshed the page

ElizB

@Rainbacon this message

scohe001

@TheTinyMan holy moly that is one kickass answer--good stuff!!

TheTinyMan

@scohe001 Thank you! ^.^

@El'endiaStarman Do itttttt

El'endia Starman

No, no, I mustn't. I am a good mod! Good mods don't trick friendsies!

ElizB

19:12

@TheTinyMan aw come on don't give him any ideas....

@El'endiaStarman don't do it! I know where you sleep and if you mess with me, i just might kick you to the couch.... :P

TheTinyMan

@El'endiaStarman But do FUN mods?? :o :o

@ElizB She's bluffing!

El'endia Starman

(I don't have the mental energy to come up with Gollum-esque "replies" so you'll have to imagine that part on your own.)

ElizB

hehehe

Extroverted Main Man

23:55

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Q: How to tell a patient I don’t want to discuss a personal detail?

I work an introductory job as a technician in a busy hospital. I manage equipment, conduct various tests on patients, and record information I obtain. Because I’m directly working with the patients, communication is going to be a large part of the process; especially since I want them to be rel...

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