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4:00 PM
@scohe001 Hahaha. Hopefully she plays video games with you on her free time :p
 
@avazula LOL I'd be more concerned if you were an aircraft that DID bite
 
@alex.l And yeah.... well, I usually do so too. But whenever I start overthinking it I don‘t, as I am afraid I might be mistaken. And thats what I hate about the generalization of sexism. It forces me to overthink things. Not that I want to play down the problems of sexism.... But generalizing it makes things horrible for me.
 
@scohe001 Now I wanna google "biting aircraft"
How long have you guys been together?
 
@avazula she's not super into video games, but I got her into Mario Party lol I know you said you don't play, but have you ever tried any?
@avazula share the results!!
 
And have a nice day to you all too :)
 
4:02 PM
@avazula Ummm 3 years? ish? I have the anniversary saved in my phone for when she asks me but I haven't checked in a while lol
 
@scohe001 Sure! I do play sometimes. But I really prefer watching Portal speedruns than playing, plus Mr Ava monopolizes the widescreen that is in the living room haha
 
@avazula ooh he plays?
 
@scohe001 Nah, I'm really afraid that this internet law saying that "think about something. There's a porn version of it" will prove me that I shouldn't have searched for it
@scohe001 That's nice!
 
@avazula Ahh the old Rule 34
 
4:04 PM
@scohe001 Every day. He's currently on the new Assassin's Creed. I'm impressed, that game really is long !
@scohe001 Ha, thanks, I couldn't find its name again
But yeah, that's his way of unwinding
He's already level 35ish
It's been 10 days since he started it
 
Ooh I've heard the new one is supposed to be really pretty. I'm sure that's fun to watch
Holy moly so he's serious O_o
@Cashbee This is how I'm imagining Ava from now on. A flying biting machine
 
@scohe001 Let me find it, it's a French startup that does the textures, the result is amazing. I would like to work for them so badly, it's a shame they're literally in the middle of the country.
@scohe001 Well, as I said, it's his hobbie. This and baseball, thrice a week.
He does do pretty much nothing else.
Except annoying Fedora
 
@avazula Creed uses a French Startup for their textures? Really?? That's awesome! Dang that'd be the perfect blend of Software and Art for you too, huh
@avazula ooh does he watch or play? (also I didn't realize baseball was a thing outside of the US and Korea)
 
@scohe001 play, and coaches
 
@avazula I'm imagining him using Linux annoyingly, but I have a feeling that's not what you mean...
 
4:09 PM
@scohe001 Yup. Well, Creed is actually a French production (Ubisoft, Mr Ava's former boss)
@scohe001 Hahaha. That's our cat's name
@scohe001 See for yourself, it's just amazing how beautiful this is
 
@avazula oh that's awesome! What position does he play? I grew up playing baseball from when I was 5 but had to quit at 15 when it messed up my knee :/
@avazula dang he's so serious about his games he even worked for a gaming company! That's a tough job to land, he must be talented
@avazula Oh yeaaaaa you told me this, I'm just terribad with names
 
@scohe001 He's a catcher, mostly, and I couldn't say which defence position he's at
 
@avazula holy moly those are gorgeous
 
@scohe001 Well, Ubisoft actually also owns kinda "healthcare" company, that's the one he worked for.
@scohe001 Right?! I'm in love with this!
And that company
@scohe001 Oh that's bad :( I hope your knee's better?
 
@avazula I thought he was a keeper @HarryPotterWordplays
 
4:12 PM
@Cashbee hahaha
 
@avazula ohhh haha I'm sure he got away with telling everyone that he worked for Ubisoft and them thinking he was a game dev then
 
@scohe001 Well, not so much, as the ambiance wasn't that good ^^
 
@avazula meh it eventually healed. Just took me out of soccer for a season and prevented me from ever doing baseball again
 
@scohe001 D:
 
@avazula yea, turns out you knee'd a strong ligament for baseball with all the sliding
 
4:15 PM
@scohe001 hahaha, that wordplay
 
Ooh btw, when's the fated meetup with @Noon?
 
@scohe001 Two weeks from now :)
 
probably around noon
 
hahaha
That's actually right, I'm the one coming to see Noon :p
 
Ooh that's super exciting!
 
4:23 PM
@scohe001 Yeah! We're really waiting for it!
Two French autistic vegan people, what were the odds, seriously?
 
*Two French autistic vegan SE people who draw awesome stuff
 
@scohe001 haha. We also both write ^_^
And love cats
aaaaah
 
Haha it's such an awesome crazy coincidence that you happened to actually start talking here at all and then on top of that that you'll actually meet!
 
@scohe001 Right? We were also very lucky that I was already coming in town to meet with a bunch of friends and took advantage of my trip for meeting Noon IRL!
 
4:59 PM
I would like to ask a girl for group activity like studying together.How do I convince her that I have constructive intention of studying...
I other words how do I approach a stranger girl for the first time who has recently been introduced to me as my batchmate.
Pls give a detailed answer
 
5:12 PM
@gateprep is it the same girl from here?
Jul 18 at 19:43, by gateprep
I tried on a girl once and she willingy agreed for group study...
 
No
It was she who approached me earlier
Generally when girls approach boys its always positive from the boys side
However the same is never true when boys approach girls
She will in many cases try to avoid the situation..
We are in the agr group of early twenties
 
@gateprep Ha. I think a lot of girls would disagree with that
 
with what?
@scohe001 True many would disagree but being a boy I feel that is a relaity
relaity*
 
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Q: How do I convince a girl for group studying?

gateprepHow do I convince a girl who happens to be my batch-mate for group studying?She happens to be a complete stranger to me and I would like to group study with her because she is sincere.How do I convince her of my intention.(I am a boy).

 
I was the one who posted that
@scohe001 Pls help me out
I need to know professional tricks with this regard
 
5:22 PM
I'm not sure being good at interpersonal relations could be a profession :p but I'm sure your question will get attention if you're patient
 
:)
@scohe001 U could also try if you would like to answer that as a question
 
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Q: How do I get my landlord to stop messing us about without souring things too much?

ArtOfCodeI've been living at my current address for just under 3 months. I'm not renewing the lease for another year after this one is up, so my landlord has just started to take viewings for the property. So far, we've had: One individual viewing, booked for something like 14:00 on a Friday. We were g...

 
6:05 PM
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Q: By what ways can i seek attention of my friends to explore business oppotunities and to start a business together?

Vikram SinghWe are 4 close friends and all are well settled and prosper. I am initiating business proposals among us but the problem is none of them takes the conversation serioulsy. However they all says that they will start any business in near time but not paying attention to look for a business opportuni...

 
 
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7:36 PM
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These plastic bags always manage to stick themselves into my sunset shots.
 
Wowza.
Heh, now that you mention it, yeah, I see the plastic bags...
 
It happened the last time too:
(Different location, by the way.)
 
Nice pictures!
 
Thanks! ^.^
 
@Noon adding the right tags to questions is good... but can you please only do so when you actually encounter a question that needs it? You're flooding the front page with old posts this way, and with our lower levels of activity that's a bit bothersome.
(So please, don't go looking for questions just to add a tag :D)
 
7:49 PM
@Tinkeringbell Oh, sorry, I had free time and didn't though it would be a problem ^^
Now I'm sad I can't retag all those 171 questions who need it :'( Maybe I could try to retag recent question instead?
 
Okay. What are you doing that requires 171 questions to be retagged?
Because that's a lot :P
@Noon Adding good tags to new questions is certainly a good idea ;)
 
@Noon Any question that's already on the front page can't get bumped to the front page... because it's already there.
 
@Tinkeringbell I just wanted to add the "request" tag or the "saying no" tag to every question that have a "request" in is body. Link here: interpersonal.stackexchange.com/…
 
@Alex it can get bumped higher on the front page though...
 
@scohe001 True, but that doesn't kick anything else off the page.
 
7:55 PM
Meh I guess. Just means stuff will stick around longer
 
@Noon Ehhh. That doesn't really seem necessary ;) 'request' seems a bit of meta-tag to me (something that doesn't speak for itself). See e.g. this one, it's tagged which is a much better tag than 'request'. They want to request, yes, but while avoiding conflict.
 
@Tinkeringbell I must admit, I don't see how this is a meta tag. isn't a meta tag and, to me, is kind of the opposite of "saying no" (in one case, you ask for something, in the other, you are saying no to this thing)
 
Yeah, I was a bit thrown off... it's probably request as in 'to request' or 'requesting', not as in 'a request'. I think it at least should read 'requesting' then ;) Just so it fits in a bit better with our other verbs (, , etc.)
Anyway, small amounts of edits should be okay. Try to do five old posts or so a day, preferably spread over the day a little ;)
(That's a totally arbitrary number we just came up with :P)
 
Ahah XD
@Tinkeringbell Should a mod edit the "request" tag to turn it into "requesting" then? Or do we need a meta post first?
 
Perhaps a meta first ;) You can even make it more generic, e.g. discuss if things should always be verbs ending on -ing if possible ;)
 
8:06 PM
Yeah, probably a good idea. So, new meta post incomming \o/ :P
 
Psst: This was all just a distraction to stop you editing tags :P
 
Oh noooooooo, I was trapped! :P (but don't worry, I currently editing new questions and I won't stop!)
So, in order to impreve tagging, I want to add tag to this question. Since we don't have the "landlord" tag, I thing I should create it. But now, I also want to edit every other questions that might need it XD (there is 40 questions but I can't edit them since I'm only "allowed" to five a day :P )
 
I'd say don't create a landlord tag. ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell Why not? It's like the "family" and "friends" tag, no?
 
Yes and no... I'd say we don't have to have a tag for every professional you can possibly interact with. From help: If the tag can’t work as the only tag on a question, it’s probably a meta-tag
I'd say just tagging something 'landlord' won't work ;)
(But I realize that just tagging something 'netherlands' is just as problematic. All of our tags are a bit off, right now, if you take that rule)
 
8:17 PM
@Tinkeringbell That's definitively true. Maybe the rule just doesn't fit IPS?
 
We have to shut down the whole site and redo all the tags.
 
I think family, friends, co-workers... they might have a little bit of a benefit... there's definitely coaches for interacting with family or co-workers or spouses, people that have made it their job to help out with those interactions and the skills they involve.
I think landlord falls outside of that ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell I don't know. To me a landlord have a lot of power over a person life and that's why I think creating a tag for it would be important.
 
> Tags are a means of connecting experts with questions they will be able to answer by sorting questions into specific, well-defined categories.
So yeah, the landlord may have a lot of power, but I'm perhaps thinking that for a site like this, it may be too specific of a category ;) Just like our and (IIRC)
You might expect 'cars' to work on a site about vehicles, but for a site on Interpersonal Skills it's kind of a weird category
 
@Tinkeringbell driving and cars have there is only 7 questions. For "landlord", there is potentialy already 40 of them. So, I'm not sure that is realy too specific
 
8:24 PM
I'll ask around and do some more research on tags. I must admit I'm a bit behind on my learning curve there ;)
But for now, I'd say hold back a little or ask on meta ;)
 
No problem, we didn't had this tag for the last year, it can wait a little longuer ^^
 
8:37 PM
if you're editing, don't forget the titles too ;)
(I know I'm guilty of this myself, it's easy to overlook)
 
user15026
Sometimes it's hard because afaik you can edit tags without actually launching the "edit the body" part
 
user15026
So it's easy to miss the other stuff
 
@EmC Good advice, I'm trying to re-bump new stuff in the front page and, for some questions, I'm having trouble finding what to edit :P
@Ash I can edit tag without launching the "edit the body" part. You just need to have enough privilage for that
 
well, take your time, ideally try to make your edits fix everything you can in one go
and try to make sure you're making substantially useful edits (not just like a couple commas, or rephrasing a sentence that was already grammatical), especially when you're bumping an old post (this isn't directed at anything in particular as I haven't been able to look at all the posts you've edited today)
 
user15026
@Noon Yeah, I thought it was privilege locked.
 
8:42 PM
@EmC I was retagging today ^^ But yeah, I should have also look at the other stuff I could have fix in making the edits
 
I noticed ;)
 
9:01 PM
bleh, gotta love waiting 20 minutes only to find out my build failed at the very end >.< back to work I guess..
 
@EmC Blegh. Well, builds are one thing I don't have to worry about in this project ;)
Do you have a lot to fix?
 
@EmC Ooof, I felt sympathy pain for that. :P
 
@Tinkeringbell lucky!!
 
@EmC Ehhh.
redefine lucky then :P
Things start slow, and are slow... they just don't have to build :P
 
@Tinkeringbell oh, yeah slow is also bad :(
 
9:12 PM
yep
And it's not even the worst part :P Want to know what happened today? :P
 
sure :D
I just kicked off another attempt at compiling :P
 
"I merged your code, then committed and merged my own version because I was done with discussing it" O.o ... Guess who learned how to never have to do her own rework today?
 
..what?!
 
Yep. Welcome to peer reviews 2.0
 
yeesh
I would be quite annoyed about that, especially if they straight out said that
 
9:18 PM
I've been through 3 other senior devs and a few managers today. We're not done yet, there'll be a meeting tomorrow.
He seriously wants to do the magik equivalent of public static final ErrorList<String> ERRORS = ErrorList.of("error1", "error2");
And then never use the constant in the class itself, just have it their for an unrelated script to pick it up and spew it into some wiki page html... :/
 
hmmmmmm I don't know anything about that language but it seems like there ought to be a better way to do that
 
And there was an if (Object X _is Type Y) { do all sorts of stuff, if(Object X is also deleted){do something more} and do some other stuff }
Now, imagine getting a review comment on that second 'if' statement. It says 'There should be an else_if'
Now, I asked 'okay, but can you explain what should be in that else_if'?
I got a comment back that didn't clarify that...
So I asked again.
And yeah, apparently that's also 'done discussing it'.
 
:\ is this the project that you're done with at the end of the year?
 
What he meant was: Add an 'else' after your outer 'if' statement, to return and break from the method if needed.
@EmC Yep. But I've decided that this is bad enough that it requires professional help. He's a subcontractor (he's his own boss), and he's making a mess of stuff. I've seen other stuff that I found iffy, but this is bad enough for me to draw a line and make sure people get feedback on how he is and how he works and how he's not making maintainable code.
Especially because he's now apparently telling people that 'I'm new, and slower than he expected' (we already had a talk today). I can live with the new, not with the 'slower than expected' because my velocity is the same as his every sprint.
So I have at least one other senior dev backing me already (I mailed him yesterday to ask about it), and my manager will drop by the office tomorrow to talk with managers at the client side...
I have a few review comments that don't make sense lined up, and a few interesting chat conversations to share.
I'm tired from today, but I also feel a bit like a big bad spy :P
 
it's good you're standing up for yourself!!
almost sounds like he's trying to make sure he keeps his work.. I know there were a couple problems at my last job where someone purposely created trouble for new employees and checked in bad code, so they'd be guaranteed a contract later, because "they're the only ones who know the system"
 
9:30 PM
@EmC That would be bad... and useless anyways, as the client is working on upgrading the application. ;)
@EmC Ehh. At some point it also feels like a lot of drama for a team I'll only be in for 13 more workdays...
 
ha, well then. hopefully the managers can sort it out
 
@EmC Well, they should at least work out a promise that I can definitely switch teams in January again. Because I already have permission from my manager to switch to a complete other project/client/team if not ;)
It's so annoying... He thinks that because he's been programming for 25 years, he knows so much better. But he isn't used to Agile working and hey do I have news, clean code standards have changed too in 25 years!
 
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Q: Help a coworker or friend reconsider their work/private life balance

cmoussetContext I work in IT services companies and I've seen several colleagues and/or friends of mine that are in power positions (project leader, tech expert...) take on too many responsabilities, with the consequence of severely impacting their private life because they work a lot of extra hours (un...

 
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