The Awkward Silence

NVZ

20:00

An airlines I suppose

Accounting firm, says Google.

English Student

Are you active at English.SE, @RoryAlsop?

NVZ

Yes.

He/She's everywhere.

And everywhen.

And all powerful, literally (mod on many sites)

:)

English Student

I rather developed this theory that it's people who are very interested in knowledge who spend a lot of time at Stackexchange, and people interested in socializing in general prefer social media. I could spend hours reading wikipedia...

Zizouz212

@EnglishStudent Thank god the only "social media" I have is email :P

English Student

Me too is all i can say. @Zizouz212 which is why i identified with apaul's question. Not everyone needs to be on social media.

Zizouz212

20:07

Hahaha XD

That was priceless!

English Student

Not everyone needs ti be on social media. Apaul is the highest rep member here and people will ask 'why are you not on friendbook?' Ironic.

NVZ

Information, Q&As are the energies I need to survive. I don't care for what Alice and Bob are doing in their summer in Italy or whatever.

I spend more of my online hours on SE than anything else.

Bradley Wilson

Here there is a sense of achievement, on social media, there is a sense of entitlement.

Zizouz212

I've never understood social media. And that's coming from a very social person :)

Ayayayayaya.....

English Student

Totally right @Bradley Wilson. I prepared a question about communism over 4 hours, first ever Q I posted on Politics.SE and it got closed as too broad. Discussed with senior members and edited to narrower focus, waiting for reopen. Whether it gets reooened or not I feel the sense of achievement, of having prepared a really good question to my own satisfaction! Learned about the topic in the process.

Rory Alsop

20:13

@EnglishStudent I am definitely interested in everything to do with science, history, culture, geography, flight, radio, space, life...etc and entirely uninterested in social media (although I do seem to have accounts on a few of them...)

@NVZ is okay - I'm a he

I do a wee bit on English.SE. Not even at 10k there yet though

Modding definitely reduces time to answer questions.

Bradley Wilson

@EnglishStudent Over on the meta? I'll go take a look, not been on Politics much today.

Zizouz212

Politics has some really great content, but then also some really crappy content.

Bradley Wilson

@RoryAlsop I'm not sure if you see it, but your avatar changes every now and then. I'm just curious why that could be

it gets good questions, just bad answers

NVZ

@EnglishStudent Bradley is active on politics.se

English Student

NVZ might even be able to tell you that there is a 'cultural difference' between (the people at) ELU and thise at Interpersonal.SE, @RoryAlsop

Zizouz212

20:16

@BradleyWilson Transparency?

Bradley Wilson

@Zizouz212 Not quite sure what you mean, could you elaborate?

NVZ

@EnglishStudent LOL. He doesn't need my opinion. He's been here longer than any of us.

Zizouz212

I think the image is transparent, so the system just throws a black/white background on it.

Bradley Wilson

oh, okay. I thought you were replying to the Politics comment

Gotcha

English Student

Thank you, @BradleyWilson -- you might be able to suggest improvements to my Q. What I really mean, I didn't feel my time spent on preparing thar Q was at all wasted -- is that the temperament if a Stackexchangian?

Zizouz212

20:19

@BradleyWilson And that too. I've been impressed with a few answers, but many answers I've found are just horrid, or completely wrong (and both often get tens of up votes)

English Student

Right, @NVZ - but for me that cultural difference was striking: ELU folk mainly have IQ and Interpersonal.SE folk deal in EQ! Reminds me of H.G.Wells' "Time Machine" novel...

Bradley Wilson

@EnglishStudent I feel like the answers already sum up exactly what I would say, you've mixed History and Politics in a very broad sense. I think it could be split into multiple questions (but determining those to be on-topic would mean developing a political climax to what you want answering, at the moment. I can only see many answers being history oriented. It's a shame because it's an interesting question.

@EnglishStudent Maybe you could pinpoint a specific event, in which you could feel it would develop in a communist state, although that could be closed as speculation. People on Politics, like finesse and precision, specific events, specific outcomes

Beofett

@RoryAlsop You don't say ;)

Bradley Wilson

@Zizouz212 I couldn't agree more, we have the same problem (not as drastic as you can base an answer her on personal endeavours), but the citations and general understanding of some answers don't come across as well (as there is also an emotional investment sometimes)

English Student

I admit it's very broad, @BradleyWilson but we need Stack Exchange expertise mainly for overarching analysis. For everything else we have wikipedia!

Zizouz212

20:26

@BradleyWilson I feel like that's the biggest issue with the site. There are many people who try to present their (often flawed) political opinions as fact, and people just vote up to say they agree.

Which is a shame, because it scares a neutral environment away.

Bradley Wilson

@Zizouz212 people downvote for disagreement and upvote for agreement rather than content and citations. I agree.

@Zizouz212 It's certainly one of the outlier SEs

Zizouz212

I'm kind of surprised that there isn't a reference requirement there actually. Or if there is one, that it's not enforced.

Bradley Wilson

it's been brought up numerous times

but a consensus hasn't been made (as you can imagine alot of bickering happens both on the main site and meta)

Zizouz212

Yeah...

Beofett

I think it's a bit telling that I periodically see questions from politics.se reposted on skeptics.se looking for more reputable answers

Bradley Wilson

20:28

as people see some users as emotionally invested in certain topics they disagree with or have ideologies they disagree with

yes or Law.SE

English Student

@Zizouz why would I ask a fact based question at Politics.SE OR History.SE? I take my facts from wikipedia which has only facts and no interpretation. For that we need Stack Exchange.

Bradley Wilson

The mods have a hard time there, I feel

Zizouz212

@BradleyWilson Yeah, we see a few questions coming from Politics over to Law

Bradley Wilson

I personally couldn't do it

Zizouz212

@EnglishStudent You my friend, need to reconsider Wikipedia. I like Wikipedia as a starting point for research, and you have to take everything you see with a healthy grain of salt.

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Bradley Wilson

20:30

Fortunately, I go there to learn moreover teach

Beofett

@BradleyWilson Being a mod on a relatively calm site is generally a stressful, antagonistic experience. I can't even begin to imagine what the mods on politics.se go through

Bradley Wilson

@Zizouz212 I back that statement

English Student

'Emotionally invested' seems more for Interpersonal.SE...

Bradley Wilson

@Beofett If you ever come across Phillip, he's a great moderator (and very patient)

@EnglishStudent Unfortunately, some people are living through the issues they are talking about on Politics, so it can get a little heated

Zizouz212

@Beofett Oh really? I've been a mod for two years, and I bet the mods on this site have handled more flags than I ever have.

Beofett

20:31

@BradleyWilson For the most part, I only lurk on politics. The temptation for me to troll is too high :)

Bradley Wilson

@Zizouz212 Where do you mod?

Zizouz212

@BradleyWilson Oh yes. He's great.

English Student

That's news, @Zizouz212 I thought wikipedia was OK, with all thise citations.

Zizouz212

@BradleyWilson Open Source

Beofett

@Zizouz212 Yeah, this is another site I suspect is not exactly a walk in the park for the mods ;)

Zizouz212

20:32

@EnglishStudent Wikipedia is great to find citations. But people can often bend those citations into offering opinion. Most of the information is factually correct, you just have to verify it

Bradley Wilson

Interesting, didn't even know that existed aha

Beofett

I used to mod on parenting.se

Zizouz212

@Beofett Oh eek

English Student

Philipp at Politics patiently helped me understand the problems with my question.

Zizouz212

@BradleyWilson Yeah, I sometimes forget that I'm a moderator there.

Bradley Wilson

20:33

@Zizouz212 Brilliant

Zizouz212

I probably handle maybe a few real flags a month...

Bradley Wilson

@Zizouz212 What's your favourite SE?

Zizouz212

@BradleyWilson The only ones that I've really participated in is Open Source and Law

I like Aviation, and Skeptics from time to time, but never really participated.

I am trying to put forward a new site devoted to Urban Planning though.

Bradley Wilson

@Zizouz212 I should probably stop being lazy and check your profile. I like observing skeptics, some of the questions on there blow my mind.

Interesting

Zizouz212

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English Student

20:36

Since you and Zizouz @BradleyWilson are experienced at many sites here, are you satisfied how this young site Interpersonal.SE is progressing?

Bradley Wilson

@EnglishStudent I wouldn't say experienced on "many" sites, I only really participate on Politics and SO and now on this

But i'm really enjoying it so far

Zizouz212

@EnglishStudent Yes and no. The community here is invested, but the quality is something that I think there are still places to work on. But overall, pretty good.

Bradley Wilson

We need variance on Qs, away from the communication based ones

Zizouz212

It's just, this site breaks the model an awful lot.

Bradley Wilson

It truly does, alot of opinion

Zizouz212

20:37

And that can make things tricky. Introducing objectivity into a subjective topic isn't pretty

English Student

I was impressed with the level if empathy and good sense displayed consistently by many members here.

Bradley Wilson

@EnglishStudent SE is full of intelligent people, It doesn't surprise me

@Zizouz212 I feel it'll mold well, we have good mods and good active users, who was wanting to make this site better

English Student

Intelligence, empathy. These people are emotionally talented and I appreciate it. INterpersonal.SE has the potential to be uniquely different within SE.

Zizouz212

Both of you are absolutely right. I've worked with Catija and HDE (two of the mods here) a fair bit on other sites, and they are wonderful (as much as I may disagree with them on certain things)

English Student

I got the impression we are getting too many 'is this rude' 'hiw do i politely' questions...

NVZ

20:41

@EnglishStudent True, that. "Bandwagon effect".

I wish to see more questions that push the boundaries.. "Is this rude?" isn't the only thing we are here to deal.

English Student

Good point @NVZ and I hadn't considered thst bandwagon is bringing all those questions.

On the bright side we are not getting any bad questions did you note?

Zizouz212

They will come. The key is to let people ask questions freely (and not for the sake of asking)

Bradley Wilson

Disagreement creates good discourse, sometimes

NVZ

I like people disagreeing and presenting counter points. (but peacefully)

Bradley Wilson

I feel there is a comfort zone too, people don't want their questions being closed too quickly either, it's almost a faux community insecurity

English Student

20:44

Yes it does, @BradleyWilson and teaches about cross-cultural differences in unique ways you couldn't get anywhere else!

Bradley Wilson

That's true, I've certainly learnt about Indian culture from @NVZ alone

Zizouz212

Isn't Indian culture wonderful?

English Student

I told somebody yesterday, that sort of opportunity never existed before Interpersonal.SE

Bradley Wilson

A beautiful chaos (from what I've gathered so far)

especially the political knowledge I've acquired from India, too

Great developers, too.

Anyway, it has been a pleasure but food and sleep await. See you on the morrow.

English Student

Indian culture finds ways to function within tremendous uncertainties, which is what I appreciate about our people. We/they can also bear tremendous adversities philosophically

Bye @BradleyWilson good talking to you!

NVZ

20:54

Meanwhile I chanced upon this cute video on Youtube under Artist On the Rise. It's a beautiful video, loving couple, from young age to old age.

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NVZ

@ExtrovertedMainMan An interesting change, I beleive.

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Rory Alsop

@Beofett and were one of my role models for how to try and mod there. I haven't managed it, but I try. Parenting is a challenging site to mod. Like this one. And Workplace...

@EnglishStudent it's doing a lot better than I expected.

having seen how difficult the other subjective sites are...

Of the sites that I mod, two are very subjective - and they take up almost all my mod efforts. The biggest sites I mod are almost entirely managed by the community.

English Student

Good to know, @RoryAlsop -- and is 'extroverted main man' a nickname for feeds?

Rory Alsop

21:27

@EnglishStudent not generally, but the two feeds in here have my favourite feed names of any chat room

Extroverted main man and introverted meta man

English Student

That's innovative, @RoryAlsop and what exactly does 'introverted meta man' mean?

Introverted Meta Man.

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Q: Do we need [help]?

Just spotted a meaningless tag on the main site that I'm pretty sure we could do without. help It's only been used on 3 questions so far, and doesn't really add anything, as I'm sure most everyone that posts a question is looking for help of some kind or another. So, do we need help?

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English Student

Oh right I get it 'main and meta' @RoryAlsop -- I am an introverted meta man. Thank you and good night!

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