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6:31 AM
Morning!
 
7:02 AM
Morning :)
 
7:33 AM
@ I think it makes sense if the same people always overexplain things. But people overexplain things, because they don't know how smart you are. Just give them the benefit of the doubt, be annoyed for a second and get over it. Everybody has pet peeves. Just get over it, until you know someone well enough and then they probably already stopped overexplaining things. If not, you can tell them. — josephine 2 mins ago
#19254 josephine (1008 rep) | A: How should I ask people to stop over explaining things? (score: 21) | posted 746 days ago by Trilarion (463 rep) | edited 130 days ago by Community (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.25981006 | Comment on inactive post | tps/fps: 0/0
 
7:53 AM
Morning!
 
8:09 AM
Makes it funnier her name being Karen XD
 
Ael
8:20 AM
Morning :)
@lila You seem to know a lot about vitamin. How is that?
@CaldeiraG I'm confused. They say "woman" but then use "he/him" pronouns
 
Tell me about pronouns ... That might very well be day #457 of me trying to explain my coworkers why I use singular they when mentioning end users in my code comments
 
@CaldeiraG The design of video games and application being addictive, unhealthy, borderline with gambling has been pointed out for a while
 
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They have been a lot of controversy with "chest" paid content as well, numerous people could went broke rolling for microtransaction
 
Ael
8:38 AM
@avazula Ouch... Thankfully, at my company we have a policy of using "l'écriture inclusive" (inclusive writing). So even if my manager is often confuse when I write "iel/iels" (french version of "they"), I can always say "that's inclusive writing" and it end the discussion
Side note @ava are you interested in performance testing and/or Gatling? I have an article about it if you want to read it (it's IMO, my most boring article so far but if you are interested by the subject..)
 
@Ael true XD
i just looked up the article in english
saw originally in PT
@ArthurHv yeah
 
@Ael I would argue this is not equivalent, it's a neopronoun. So far no consensus about their usage. Gender neutral and historical singular they exist in English, while in our language, everything is gendered, so we're a bit screwed to make things fair language wise. For better understanding by my peers that don't really know much about neopronouns I usually end up saying "il ou elle" or find constructs that avoid gendering.
All that just so to say it's just so much more convenient to write in English when it comes to gender inclusion.
 
Ael
Yes, it's different. I just wanted to point out that my company is more open-minded regarding those subjets than ava's company ^^
 
8:54 AM
@Ael I'd love to read that indeed! :)
 
Ael
@avazula Please, keep in mind that it's not a very interesting one. I don't want you to be disappointed ^^
 
I'm interested by everything I can learn about testing, so no worries :)
 
Ael
I also sent one about DevSecOps (by one of my coworkers). I thought it might interest you given your work
 
Ooh! Thank you very much!
 
Ael
9:20 AM
You're welcome ^^
Oh, by the way @ava, I just finished writing a new tale. I sent it to my big sister so that she can correct my (many) grammatical errors, but I'm definitively planning on making you read it afterward :D It's about "the little mermaid", but she is aro-ace and using sign language to communicate ^^
 
hi
@Ael Because it is what interests me the most and I read a lot about these subjects ^.^
@CaldeiraG Haha okay, it reminds me how I once read how Karens wanted to ban the word "Karen" :D
 
@Ael I can't wait to read it :)
 
9:57 AM
@avazula Why? I thought singular "they" is commonly known there?
 
Ael
@M.A.R. It's definitively not
In French school, we learn that "they" is plural. I don't think I ever heard of singular they during my studies
Well, maybe I did but I just don't remember it?
In any case, singular they isn't something that is really talked about
 
@Ael In Dutch, hen is plural, and hun is the possessive. Using it 'wrong' is more often an indicator of low-letteredness and/or intelligence than inclusive writing.
 
Ael
@Tinkeringbell You only have one plural form, like in English?
 
10:13 AM
@Ael Yep.
No wait.
> 1e mv. wij. we ons ons, onze ons
2e mv. jullie, u jullie, je , u jullie, uw je, u
3e mv. zij, ze hen (LV, VV en na een voorzetsel, hun (MV), ze (LV,MV,VV) hun zich
So we have words to indicate a 1st person plural (we, us, ours)
a 2nd person plural (you, you)
and a 3rd person plural (they, them, theirs).
That's how it lines up, I guess.
 
Ael
Yeah, but you don't make gender distinctions on your plural forms, correct?
 
No, we don't. So there's no ils or elles :)
(If I remember that correctly XD)
 
Ael
You do remember correctly :)
 
Yes! :D
 
10:35 AM
@lila XD
 
 
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11:36 AM
@Ael Sure, it's never brought up in ESL studies. I personally don't like calling it "inclusive language". Seems to give it some bias. It only makes sense to call a group of people by something that would include both genders, this is not inclusive or non-inclusive IMO
 
 
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Ael
2:24 PM
Me, today: ♫ Nothing is working ♫
 
:( :( :(
 
Ael
The worst thing is: when I'm trying to reproduce a bloody bug it's not here anymore but another one took the place so things are now doubly not working!
 
Ael
2:49 PM
@lila At least the good news is that, in this precise case, it's not my job to fix those things. I am merely reporting them
 
3:06 PM
ok
 
Ugh. I hate and love those 'introduce yourself in 30 seconds' kinda things. On the one hand they're totally meaningless, on the other... they're totally meaningless so you don't give away too much to other strangers XD
 
@Ael me, for the last couple of weeks XD
it's now partially working
@Tinkeringbell those suck
not the worst i've seen on recruitinghell :P
 
3:25 PM
Oh, it's not recruiting... it's a chapter meeting ;D
Worst I've had was still the goat-wool-sock-self-proclaimed-uncertified-study-coach.
She had put all sorts of pictures cut from magazines on the floor... 'please pick one and tell us something about yourself by explaining why you picked this picture'
It was one of those where at the end of the introduction round, you didn't know anyone's name and ended up going "Hey you, the dude with the sparkling personality, no the other dude with the sparkling personality"
 
3:50 PM
@Tinkeringbell I once read a similar thing, but they were stuck near North Pole and were forced to eat their Arctic sled dogs, they all died because of vitamin A poisoning from their livers because Arctic sled dogs also have extreme concentrations of vitamin A in their livers, like polar bears.
 
@Tinkeringbell it also applies :)
@Tinkeringbell oh no, i remember this
i did the exact same thing a year or 2 back
on a introduction round kinda of thing
 
Best way to learn names is still 'krantenmeppertje'. Put someone with a rolled up newspaper in the middle, shout a name, and the person in the middle needs to try and gently hit the lap of the named person before that person names another name.
 
@Tinkeringbell interesting
first time i've heard of this
 
It's mostly a 'children's game' but I found it's fun and works with adults too XD
 
nice :D
 
 
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Ael
6:33 PM
@CaldeiraG Oh dear, that's true x)
 
 
3 hours later…
9:25 PM
@Ael x)
and now my computer just got to be formatted
 
 
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10:53 PM
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Q: Being comfortable with disappointing or angering people

WatamaSo I think a personal fault of mine is I tend to get on edge about what people think of me, and I often bend over backwards to do what is asked of me from others rather than risk disappointing or angering them. I need to be able to say no to these people and put myself over their opinion but I re...

 
11:16 PM
@CaldeiraG :(
good night ips.
 

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